Talk:The Wise Man's Fear

Give it some time

Let's give this article time to develop. The release date just got announced. This book is the sequel to a book that's notable enough to have its own article by an author who's notable enough to have his own article. No need for speedy delete here. Henrymrx (t·c) 19:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, since this is not prevalent discussion I'm suggesting to delete it. Theodore2B (talk) 21:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Enough Information

This article has enough information to keep. Although it does not yet have alot, it reflects the current status of information out there about this book. Because the book has not yet been released the information is not yet available. --Bfahlgren (talk) 18:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Summary needs work

I added a summary to the aticle, but it needs more work. Specifically, I haven't written about the Chteah or about the stuff that goes in Kote's inn. I am sure there are other things missing as well, so please do go over it once. Apoorv020 (talk) 09:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Summary worked upon

I worked on the summary a little, providing some more detail and fixing up the language. This still needs work, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitzhughs (talk • contribs) 13:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I added a bit about the current day occurrences. Atherton53 (talk) 23:07, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Summary minor errors corrected

Small bits of grammar (who/whom) spelling ("tuiton") and the Bloodless being referred to as an item of clothing were corrected. I feel like something is wrong with the line about Denna's asthma attack. Honestly calling the wind may be likely but he's shown himself quite capable of Naming the long names of creatures, and it was made clear in the first book that Names sound like ordinary words to people who do not know them. I seem to remember a seven word phrase along the lines of "I need you to breathe for me." being the only thing Denna hears which leaves me wondering if he called her Name or the Name of the wind. I would check myself but I lent my book to a good friend earlier today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaalgamesh (talk • contribs) 06:04, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Kvothe tells Denna that and then speaks the word that allows her to breathe again. It's heavily implied it was the name of the wind, and Elodin later confirms that by commenting that what Kvothe did was one of the more subtle uses of the wind. The Cap'n (talk) 16:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Something is wrong. It is never stated that she had an asthma attack. Leitmotiv (talk) 20:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

not explicitly, but it is implied 202.53.199.23 (talk) 05:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how it is implied. I can see how one can infer however. Perhaps it's a complication from her patron? Or something mundane? But it still is not implied nor even mentioned. Leitmotiv (talk) 15:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Another thing. It is easily could be asthma, that I'm not arguing. But the book does not explicitly say so. And because the book does not say so, we can not do our own individual research for this article. I'm willing to bet Rothfuss left out the word "asthma" from the book because it sounds too modern and doesn't quite fit into the fantasy realm even though both he and us know it could be possible. Leitmotiv (talk) 17:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually the book does mention Denna's asthma somewhere, I think Kvothe brings her a gift about it. Apoorv020 (talk) 08:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay. That doesn't help us though. I need a page number, because I don't recall reading the word "asthma." Leitmotiv (talk) 15:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't recall asthma either, having just finished the novel. Edited. If you can cite the page it was on, then we can change it back. Atherton53 (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't ever explicitly say asthma in either of the books. It mentions she has "breathing trouble" several times in both books. Kvothe brings her some tea to help ease her troubles. It can very easily be asthma but is only refered to as "breathing trouble" because most aliments do not have very clear names merely descriptions and asthma is a modern term that would not have been used yet. 13:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.185.232.19 (talk) 13:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Caesura is not 2000 years old. Kvothe mistakenly guesses it to be 2000 years old but it was used during one of Lanre's battles (not by Lanre, by the first owner) which makes it 4-5 thousand years old. 130.130.37.85 (talk) 23:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Plot Summary Revision

Revised the entire plot summary. Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes, but it was far to long, written in-universe, and looked like it had been written by a 15 year old. Mine looks like it was written by a 16 year old, so definite improvement. I didn't really include anything about Denna, as despite being a primary character she really adds nothing to the overall plot, similar to Willem, Simmon, Devi, Fela, etc. Also added several links to various reviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.193.151 (talk) 04:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

The summary is good overall but I would object to two points in the last paragraph, which in my opinion are too conjectural: Bast's motive for conspiring with the soldiers, and the fate of the soldiers. Kymacpherson (talk) 21:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Summary of Critical Reception

The article offers this, to conclude its overview of the book's critical reception: 'In contrast, genre review site SFReviews.net described the book as "meandering," "undisciplined" and "monotonous," and the product of excessive hype, stating, "Some of it is interesting. Some of it is downright tedious. At no point does the book get your pulse racing. At no point are you at the edge of your seat, flipping pages in breathless anticipation of what is to come."'

I'm a bit torn, here, having read the book. I can't seriously entertain the view that it has poor story or writing. If a very geeky criticism of, say, the magic system was offered, then there would be something to discuss. Such a thing is not necessarily minor, perhaps. And, actually, I would be impatient with defensive fanboys, on principle, though I probably appear to be merely writing as one here. I could write up an analysis for why I think the Kingkiller Chronicles are awesome on multiple fronts, but I don't want to do that. I am a relative newbie when it comes to editing wiki pages, I don't trust myself to understand wiki standards as applied to this case. My beef is that the review sucks, which may not seem relevant. So okay, I'll just point out that 'SFReviews.net' is characterized as a 'genre review site', when in fact it is a genre blog, exclusively for reviews by Martin Wagner. For the website’s 500th review, Wagner demolished Robert A. Heinlein’s classic Stranger in a Strange Land. He was a prominent figure in the short-lived comics self-publishing movement, and has a wiki page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Wagner_(artist)

I don't need to win a debate about it, I just have two cents that somebody might feel misled about something, here. If you want to investigate further, here is his review of Rothfuss' 'Slow Regard of Silent Things', which I find revealing, more of this guy's dealio than of anything else, unless you can regard that painstakingly crafted genre-breaking work of high-art as simply a novella about Auri (who, btw, is not a personality-disordered individual) collecting trinkets and worrying about Kvothe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGv4Gtw245I

DanLanglois (talk) 09:11, 25 July 2016 (UTC)