Talk:Sannyasa
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Photo of Buddha?
editCan anyone xplain to me why there are no pics of the budda here
Because just like natives and most other cultures. Taking a picture of them they feel would trap that part of there soul
The soul, or spirit is not to be taken by any body, it's a gift not to be taken for granted. Hindulife (talk) 21:37, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Sannyassin vs Sanyasa
editIf I am not mistaken, the term Sannyassin was around a long time before Rajneesh brought it to the west. The Sannyassin should then redirect here. Sfacets 01:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Unnecessary content
editOrthodox Hindus do not generally accept the claims of the followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh / Osho to be sannyasins, and often even find this claim insulting. Though Rajneesh took pains to distinguish his sannyasins from the traditionals, and called them neo-sannyasins, in practice that prefix is rarely used. The result is more like the co-optation of the name than a claim.
Rajneesh is not a hindu in the first place - he follows a mix of hindu, zen buddhist and jain views and traditions coupled with his own. Therefore it is not just "orthodox hindus" but technically they do not fall into the category of hindu sanyasa
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Samnyasin
editThe Sacred Paths of the East: Third Edition by Theodore M. Ludwig calls this term Samnyasin, and I have seen it spelled this way in other sources; maybe this should be added to the redirection page? Being new to Wikipedia, I'm not sure how to use it, or I would do it myself. Konamaiki 06:44, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sannyasin (similar spelling) already redirects to this article. I havn't come across Samnyasin as a popular spelling and get only 500 hits in Google, but will add it as another redirect page just in case. Thanks for pointing it out. Regards, Gouranga(UK) 08:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Noted Sannyasins
editCan the Gaudia Vaishnava renunciates be properly called sannyasins? I thought Sannyasa was a ritual renouncing along Shankara's lines, an advaitic process. If there is a vaishnava sannyasa, perhaps that needs to be differentiated from dashanami sampradaya. Devadaru (talk) 06:01, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Renunciation and asceticism have been an integral component of Saivite culture from the earliest days, the most highly honored facet of the Hindu dharma. Until around the ninth century, renunciation as a way of life was a uniquely Saivite phenomenon, and even today the word sannyasin denotes particularly a Saivite ascetic, though etymologically it may be applied to all Hindu monks. Historically, sannyas has not been a part of Vaishnavism until fairly recently. There are certain distinctions to be observed between Saivite and Vaishnavite sannyasins. Firstly, Saiva sannyasins generally share a common philosophical ground, often described as Monistic Vedanta or Suddha Saiva Siddhanta, while their Vaishnavite counterparts embrace at least four distinct philosophies. Secondly, Saiva sannyasins throughout the Hindu world worship the same Deity and wear the tilaka or sect mark on their foreheads, consisting of holy ash in three horizontal lines called tripundra, with little variation. Vaishnavite sannyasins, on the other hand, never make their tilaka with holy ash, but use various forms, often consisting of sandalpaste in three vertical lines, called urdhvapundra. Worshipping Vishnu’s divine incarnations, Vaishnavite renunciates are often termed “vairagis,” and may further distinguish themselves from the Saiva sannyasins by using a rosary of tulsa instead of the Saivite’s rudraksha and by wearing white robes instead of the traditional saffron or ochre robes. This has brought about the terms Lal Padris or “red-devotees” to describe the Saivites and Sita Padris or “white-devotees” to describe the Vaishna vites. Finally, while sannyasins place great emphasis on asceticism and the disciplines of meditation or raja yoga, vairagis for the most part follow the path of devotion or bhakti yoga. Despite these historical differences, modern Hinduism accepts all devout Hindus into sannyas, and devotees of any of the sects of the Sanatana Dharma—whether Saiva, Vaishnava, Sakta or Smarta—may enter into sannyas.
- –Holy Orders of Sannyas, Saiva Siddhanta Church, Hawaii.
- Oliver Puertogallera (talk) 09:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Conflict regarding age
editI can't add anything about this topic, as I know nothing about it, but want to point out discrepancies between this entry, which says that Sannyasa is "traditionally taken by men or women over fifty," and the entry for "Ashrama," which gives the ages of "72-demise" and, farther down the page, "80+ years." Can anyone clarify and amend both pages? Schoemann (talk) 12:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
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The "Literature" section
editThis section reads like a religious pamphlet, can it be reworked into a less editorializing form? 24.209.109.80 (talk) 13:47, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
What is "vairagi"?
editRedirects here but is not mentioned. 2A00:23C5:FE0C:2100:EC04:7721:95FF:B16 (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)