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Remove "under an authoritarian dictatorship" from the table. Russia is not a dictatorship and has a semi-presidential system. Higger1 (talk) 21:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: The claims in the article about being a dictatorship are backed up with sources. A change like this needs both reliable sources and consensus. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 13:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see in the sources where it supports stating as fact that Russia is a dictatorship. Could someone provide quotes? What I saw in the sources might support something like "has been described as an authoritarian dictatorship in practice". ☺Coppertwig (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- This source [1] says "considered authoritarian" and "formally democratic". ☺Coppertwig (talk) 18:17, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is a serious issue. Wikipedia is chosing to provide false data with objectives that seen different than just being an information source.
- While you can define Russia as "under an authoritarian government", stating that is a "under an autoritharian dictatorship" is simply contrafactual. And it would be an important nuance between both statements.
- A Dictatorship has institutions and laws securing the dictatorial government in place and providing legitimacy for the dictatorship. This does not happens in Russia because there´s no such dictatorship. The fact that de government employs some authoritarian measures does not turn it into a dictorship.
- None of the sources quoted can "back up" the said statement. They are all societal studies with rather subjective about vague concepts such as "freedom" and none of them provide a single legal description on how Russia would objetively be a dictatorship. 2800:810:471:234B:C8A8:7E8B:5192:AC59 (talk) 20:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- "A Dictatorship has institutions and laws securing the dictatorial government in place and providing legitimacy for the dictatorship."
- Says who? You? What's your source for this definition of a dictatorship? Britannica: "Dictatorship, form of government in which one person or a small group possesses absolute power without effective constitutional limitations." That's Russia alright. 219.90.189.144 (talk) 18:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Russia
editWikipedia is mistaken in some of the concepts about Russia: "Federal semi-presidential republic under an authoritarian dictatorship" Russia is a democracy, and it is misleading the general population knowledge about its system... 2603:8001:E700:3B39:2CF2:B234:801F:18EC (talk) 00:58, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- ... and Santa Clause lives there all cozy with Put ... :) Vsmith (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Just call it Federal semi-presidential republic.
- Calling it a dictatorship is a western propaganda. Undashing (talk) 02:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- read me. Moxy🍁 16:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, try running for president and speaking against the war or against Putin, you will experience the non-dictatorship firsthand and then you can cite that as a source in your argument here. Until then, it's a dictatorship. 219.90.189.144 (talk) 18:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- You can't use your anecdotal hypothetical as a source. Russia is a democracy and anyone can run for President if they fulfill the requirements, just because the President is popular and easily wins every election and has stayed in power for a long time doesn't mean it's a dictatorship (Before Angela Merkel resigned as Chancellor of Germany she had been in power longer than Putin). Third party western friendly opinion polls even show that Putin is very popular. Any argument you use to argue for it being labeled a "dictatorship" can be used for a western country as well. Grifspdax (talk) 12:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Update GDP statistics
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According to IMF October stats, Russia is the fourth-largest economy by PPP, not the sixth - that needs to updated in the lead and the infobox. The latter also needs update in the GDP (PPP) per capita rankings. Russia is 43th, not 60th. 45.118.63.51 (talk) 12:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
Already done by another editor. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 16:47, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
The Crimea population inclusion makes no sense
editThe population estimate includes both with Crimea and without Crimea. It makes no sense to have this here. Either all of the Russian claimed and occupied territory should be included or none of it. Yes, it was included in the 2021 census. But one, the 2024 estimate isn't the census data, it's just an estimate. Two, the census data was considered unreliable by the Levada centre. https://rtvi.com/news/po-itogam-perepisi-v-moskve-stalo-na-million-menshe-russkih-socziologi-i-demografy-govoryat-chto-etim-dannym-nelzya-doveryat/ 219.90.189.144 (talk) 18:05, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Even more, why Crimea is even mentioned like it belongs to Russia? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 20:01, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
ambiguity needs correction...
editThis ambiguity needs to be corrected by someone who has extended godlike editing permissions for this page: The sentence: "Russia is a highly urbanised country including 16 population centres with over a million inhabitants." ...needs to have the word "each" inserted between "centres" and "with". Thanks! 00:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)~ philiptdotcom (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think this is actually ambiguous unless one is trying very hard to misread it. However, the sentence is poorly written regardless, so I rewrote it. Remsense ‥ 论 01:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)