Talk:Proud Boys
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2024
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The Proud Boys was founded as a fraternity that supports the American Republic. Proud Boys support the American Capitalist ideology. Proud Boys have been deemed as Fascist, this is incorrect. Noble hobbs (talk) 18:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- How does one provide a source contrary to an intangible and subjective viewpoint? 71.200.185.203 (talk) 18:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you'd read that link to our reliable sources policy, that would clear it up. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 18:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- How does one provide a source contrary to an intangible and subjective viewpoint? 71.200.185.203 (talk) 18:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Symbolism
editThe Proud Boys often use a Rooster, sometimes painted red, white, and blue, as a semiotic. Can we add [https://www.yahoo.com/news/does-proud-boys-rooster-symbol-154604566.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGrH2J3orOcm7NhafVdNa5idawxVqD-w7V6Qtw-pukMtThy_B9Wy88ZLSjo4QM9BdIjE0c4yHJFQf3qF6yPrkInB6Sj8pupF_DQpfgeWoI_3Cgc7D0kQuEDjVrzypzqiE-T5Z3uNLZHt1nrNlCNvXbcXJ30f0DkeGuyIAF7OZhTE this citation? Bearian (talk) 18:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's actually already cited in the article, using the original Independent link rather than Yahoo's wrapper around it. See cite 15. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 18:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Unsure best way to integrate information
editHi all, I am reading a review article: Alt-right gangs and far-right extremists: From the margins to the mainstream which notes in the abstract "The misconception that alt-right gangs [(e.g., Proud Boys)] are domestic terrorist organizations, primarily driven by racist ideology, ignores just how unrefined and rudimentary the beliefs that connect members together actually are." I'm unsure where in the article this would fit. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Addition of a website URL
editI believe we should add the Proud Boys' site's URL to the "Quick Facts" section. 207.253.171.59 (talk) 18:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do you mean the template on the right? I don't think it makes sense; they're not primarily known for it and it wouldn't provide much useful information as a result. In fact, the only mention of the website of the article is an offhand quote saying that it hasn't been updated in over a year and a half. --Aquillion (talk) 20:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)