Talk:Protected area

Renaming

I have found the following list in the National park article. They are probably candidates for redirecting/renaming "Protected areas of [country]", as I already did with Australia. That way they are more inclusive and areas other than national parks can be included (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected Areas).

• National parks (Australia)
• National parks (Brazil)
• National parks (Canada)
• National parks (England and Wales)
• National parks (France)
• National parks (Germany)
• National parks (India)
• National parks (Ireland)
• National parks (Kenya)
• National parks (New Zealand)
• National parks (Netherlands)
• National parks (Northern Ireland)
• National parks (Poland)
• National parks (Scotland)
• National parks (Slovenia)
• National parks (Sweden)
• National parks (South Africa)
• National parks (Tanzania)
• National parks (Uganda)
• National parks (United States)

Guy 19:33 Oct 7, 2002 (UTC)

• I disagree. National parks are a special type of protected area that should be listed separately as they are significant areas of national and even world heritage importance -- kiwiinapanic 12:09 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Freshwater protected areas

Although protected area networks have been developed in terrestrial and marine environments, the concept is not well developed for freshwater environments. Few scientific papers are referenced through this phrase, and national freshwater protected area programs are under-developed in all nations. Sites protected through the Ramsar Convention on Wetlands 1971 form the largest network of freshwater protected areas worldwide (www.ramsar.org) but rivers and underground freshwater ecosystems are under-represented in this system.

Please create more "Wildlife of ....." articles for all countries.

.... and kindly contribute to these new articles when you get time, and request others too.

See Wildlife of India for reference.

Thanks

Atulsnischal 18:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Invitation for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India & Conservation

If you are interested in Environment, Wildlife, Conservation and Nature etc. please join in to contribute, even starting off with making new stub class articles will be a great contribution.

Sincerely

Atulsnischal 16:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

We need senior administrators or people who are long in Wikipedia to help us with the templates and for other further helps. Details can be seen in its talk page. IT's urgent. We want this wkiproject to be added to the exsisting WP:IND banner. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 05:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Statistics

I think it would be nice to add a table with total size of protected areas per country, both in km² and % of countries' area. for example:

Australia | 895 280 km² | 11.5% (http://www.environment.gov.au/parks/nrs/science/locations.html)

Nicaragua | 22 421 km² | 17.3% (http://www.marena.gob.ni/areas_protegidas/estructura.htm)

If we could add columns for the different IUCN categories, it would be even better, but the data is quite hard to get. Australia's department of the environment's website is really good for that. But most countries don't provide as much detail.AtikuX (talk) 07:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

here's a start... Elekhh (talk) 05:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Country	Total terrestrial protected areas			notes
	Nr.	Area (km²)	%
Afganistan	7	1,079	0.2%
Albania	80	2,994	8.0%
Algeria	23	119,622	5.0%
American Samoa	4	34	16.8%
Andorra	2	32	6.9%
Angola	15	103,060	8.3%
Argentina	307	180,286	6.5%
Armenia	10	2,440	8.2%
Australia	5,485	790,134	10.3%
Austria	1,087	23,475	28.0%
Azerbaijan	42	6,327	7.3%
Bahamas	43	1,549	11.4%
Bahrain	4	58	8.4%
Bangladesh	20	3,140	2.2%

Reference: World Database on Protected Areas: Summary of protection by Country and Territory on the 31st January 2008, retrieved 2009-09-30

Protected areas title changes

• Many Protected areas articles have been recently renamed. Creators or major editors of any Protected areas of ... article may be interested in the discussion at Talk:Protected_areas_in_Tamil_Nadu#Requested_move.--Marcus (talk) 00:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Protected Areas vs. protected areas

There's some discussion at wt:PAREAS about definition of the term protected areas. I wonder if the use of the term in Wikipedia should be brought back to being about Protected Areas defined and listed by the IUCN only. This protected areas article used capitalized Protected Areas from its origination in 2002 until this Nov 2004 edit. doncram (talk) 01:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• You have no support anywhere for your changes. Simply you yourself repeating what say and other editors disagreeing with you does not justify any of our edits. IUCN does not own the term 'protected areas', which is a common enough English phrase of known and obvious meaning, not including silly statements. Hmains (talk) 01:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Umm, you're simply repeating yourself. No it is not obvious what a Wikipedia article on "Protected areas" should cover. Discussing at wt:PAREAS. This note here is to point others to the discussion at wt:PAREAS. doncram (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

The article is topic is "protected area(s)". Logic dictates that the scope should be "areas" (a term that presumably could designate anything from about 1 cm² to many thousands of km²) that are "protected" (meaning that some sort of legal arrangement exists to prevent actions in some way deleterious to the area). It's not "protected areas of ecological interest or wildlife value," nor is it "IUCN-recognized protected areas." Please refrain from editing it in a manner that suggests that Wikipedia does not deem protected areas to be "protected areas" unless they meet one of these definitions. --Orlady (talk) 02:26, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

• It is fine to have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas, but the scope of this article should be discussed here. This article is about legally protected geographic areas. There is already an article World Commission on Protected Areas which could use some expansion, and subcategories under Category:Protected areas by World Conservation Union category that list the IUCN areas. There is no need for the limitation proposed by doncram, and, in fact, it would be counter-productive, leaving non-IUCN protected areas orphaned. --Bejnar (talk) 17:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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ref wrong

https://portals.iucn.org/library/efiles/documents/PAPS-016.pdf is the correct ref for ref 14 - it does not seem easily editable like it was in wikipedia so I can only list it here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.244.74.200 (talk) 08:50, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Secure Digital

someone to make article for Secure Digital's Protected area — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.5.158.45 (talk) 23:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

natural <-> ecological ?

In the first sentence of this article is stated: "Protected areas ...(have) .... natural, ecological or cultural values." What I want to know is: what is exactly the difference between natural and ecological in this sentence? Could anyone please explain that to me? Many thanks, --Dick Bos (talk) 07:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Minor Improvements to Start

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I would like to propose a few changes to this article before editing them directly.

First, under the "By area" section, notable protected areas and examples of such should be included from all regions of the Earth, including Asia and other countries as well. Protected areas for conservation are not only limited to the mentioned nations of Australia, U.S., Nicaragua, etc., and so the article should reflect that.

In the section "Effectiveness," I believe the phrase "The Asian country Bhutan" should be omitted. Instead, it might make more sense to simply say "The country of Bhutan..." and proceed with the rest of the statement.

The article seems unbiased and informational, so good work!

Within the section of "Protection of natural resources," I think the inclusion of "ecosystem services" is vital. Protected areas also serve as notable sources of ecosystem services such as the regulation of climate, air quality, and water quality. A section dedicated to the discussion of the unspoken ecosystem services provided by an ecosystem's biodiversity may be useful here.

In the "Challenges" section, it would be useful to discuss the cost and governance of large-scale implementation of protected areas, and the enforcement of such. I will include a source that discusses these challenges, but protected areas are yet to encompass a majority of the available ecological environment because of the difficulty in managing the existence of humanity alongside a protected area and what consequences the implementation of a protected area may have on a society that has previously relied on a natural resource or ecosystem service within that area. This information seems underrepresented in this article. Ijxw33 (talk) 20:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijxw33 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Indigenous rights

Many indigenous communities roundly criticize this method of "fortress conservation", citing, primarily, violations of human rights in enforcement. Should this take a more central role in the article? I see oblique references to it, but it feels eurocentric and inaccurate not to include the indigenous respectives. 67.173.232.108 (talk) 13:39, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

@67.173.232.108 I believe the most high-profile and well-reported incident of this would be seen here: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomwarren/wwf-world-wide-fund-nature-parks-torture-death. For further reading, Survival International has published "Decolonize Conservation", which covers the topic is much greater detail. 67.173.232.108 (talk) 13:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

I (made an account and) looked into the situation of this on Wikipedia, it appears there is an article about Fortress conservation. My intuition is that these articles cover the same topic, but from different viewpoints. Fortress conservation is incredibly useful supplementary information to Protected area from an indigenous, rather than European or American, perspective. Would it be appropriate to, at the very least, link Fortress conservation within the lead of this article as a first step to incorporating broader perspectives and maintaining a NPOV? TaliAu (talk) 14:09, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Map colors

On "World map with percentage of each country under protection," aren't the colors a little severe? I think there should be at least one country that's some shade of green.

72.3% is still yellow. It is kind of nuts to expect any country to protect so much. LesbianTiamat (talk) 05:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Are there any protected areas that are not considered nature reserves?

The distinction between protected areas (as defined by the IUCN) and nature reserves seems rather vague. If all protected areas are also nature reserves, that would imply that there is no (de facto) difference between the terms, and therefore warrant the merging of the articles. ZFT (talk) 21:56, 24 May 2024 (UTC)