Talk:Plague

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Paine Ellsworth in topic Requested move 1 September 2021

Plagues of animals

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Should there be an entry on plagues of animals, e.g. mice plagues?

Done. --David Broadfoot (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Major re-arrange

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I have re-arranged the was Plague was treated navigationally.

These changes may be confusing and I'm happy to disucss them. --Commander Keane 10:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

OK, discussion about this is occuring at Talk:List of Bubonic plague outbreaks--Commander Keane 05:00, 4 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
Please note that my comments above have been altered. The piping used was introduced by another editor. When I orginially wrote it there was no piping.--Commander Keane 01:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Types of Plague

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By far the most commonly encountered is Bubonic plague which usually kills about 65% of those infected within 2-5 days after the disease appears, and the more lethal pneumonic form which kills almost invariably, even more rapidly. A third variety, so-called septacaemic plague occurs early on during bubonic outbreaks and kills very suddenly without the characteristic swelling in the lymph glands that is associated with bubonic plague or the bleeding from every conceivable orifice which was a feature of the much rarer pneumonic form.

Obesity plague

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I removed the link to 'obesity plague'. I think that, even with a reference, it's too remotely removed from the purposes of a disambiguation page, since 'plague' is used to refer to all numbers of unpleasant things, but people aren't necessarily going to go searching for them using the word 'plague'. (I could provide plenty of links to: 'plague of cell phones!' and that's just the first example I thought of.) Marieblasdell 00:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Cool. I've been tempted to do so for a while! (John User:Jwy talk) 03:19, 12 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

The Plague (Metal Band)

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I know of a heavy metal band, The Plague, but I cannot find anything about them on the web. Will somebody living near Moorpark find out more about this band? --Jeffo bazoni

Today I Caught The Plague

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The band Today I Caught The Plague is also refrenced in this article, im not sure why my description of the band was constantly removed. All i was trying to do was to elaborate on this group, if you still find that this information is irrelevant, i will let the topic of the page be.Innerprimate (talk) 22:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Logical arrangement?

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So, what makes this more logical? Alphabetical is more encyclopedic? WBardwin 20:17, 3 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 1 September 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

– becausde clearly the disease is the primary meaning. Lembit Staan (talk) 09:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 01:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Comment. Here's the clickstream data for the dab page, showing the number of times each link was followed during the month of March:

Destination Type Count
Plague (disease) link 1456
Black Death link 529
List of epidemics link 325
Pandemic link 175
The Plague link 155
Epidemic link 130
Great Plague of London link 113
Antonine Plague link 62
Third plague pandemic link 51
Plagues of Egypt link 49
Plague of Justinian link 47
Plague (painting) link 38
Hyphen-minus other 37
Swarm behaviour link 33
La peste (TV series) link 32
Plague Inc. link 31
Plague of Athens link 31
The Plague (2006 film) link 31
Great Northern War plague outbreak link 29
Moscow plague riot of 1771 link 29
Overpopulation link 25
Bubonic plague other 21
Plague (1979 film) link 20
Plague (2014 film) link 20
Plaque link 20
Common grackle link 18
Seven bowls link 17
The Plague (1992 film) link 16
Manchurian plague link 15
HIV/AIDS link 12
Main Page other 12

Entries with < 10 clicks are not shown. Plague (disease) got about 40% of the total. – Uanfala (talk) 21:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

And beating the runner-up by a wiiiide margin. Lembit Staan (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Weak oppose. Even though it's clear that the primary topic for plague is a disease, I have always understood that the word "plague" refers to any extremely contagious disease, not just the one caused by Yersinia pestis. JIP | Talk 03:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support Per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. While "plague" may be a general term for a variety of diseases and other maladies, the relevant primary encyclopedia article is the article on the actual Plague disease.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Relisting comment: relisted to allow more opportunity for participation as the page Plague (disease) wasn't previously notified. Adumbrativus (talk) 01:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. This word is from Latin plaga. The Latin word has nothing to do with disease. It just means an expanse, "a lot of it." We owe the English word to Wyclif's translation of the Vulgate: “Of thes thre plagis the thridde paart of men is slayn, of fijr [fire], and of smoke, and of brunston.” (Rev. 9:18, 1382) As far as something that you might write an encyclopedia article about, Yersinia pestis is the clear primary topic. See Encylopedia.com. 99to99 (talk) 14:33, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Weak oppose per JIP: Lots of diseases are called plagues, and various other things are called a plague too. Moreover, even among diseases caused by Yersinia pestis, there are multiple candidate topics – that is not really a single disease, at least from the symptomatic perspective and historical perspective. For example, plague might refer to the the Black Death, or to Bubonic plague more generally, or to Pneumonic plague. We should perhaps consider moving Plague (disease) to a more disambiguated title rather than to a non-disambiguated title. It is already somewhat written as a disambiguating explanation already. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:01, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Support as proposed. Nothing else would be what you'd expect to find at plague Red Slash 19:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose I don't think the disease caused by Yersinia pestis is primary over the generic term for an epidemic. There are also other terms which, will not primary, are relevant enough to mean this is not a TWODAB situation. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 17:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Opppose I would also assume that "plague" refers to a generic disease, not a specific disease caused by Yersinia pestis, though perhaps that is a misunderstanding of "plague". Should there instead be a WP:DABCONCEPT for plague? Natg 19 (talk) 01:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose per WP:PTOPIC#1 - "A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." 40% of views is well below that threshold. Narky Blert (talk) 08:32, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
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