Talk:Major League Soccer
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Leagues Cup and Stats Table (Continental vs Other)
editWhere should the Leagues Cup be reported in the Stats table? I feel like it should be in the Other column as its not a true Continental competition (ala a Champions League). To me it’s more like the Campeones Cup (a MLS/LigaMX tourny as well) that we recorded in the Other column. RedPatch (talk) 11:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think “other” makes sense. It’s more like a league cup where every club participates. BLAIXX 15:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Even other international competitions like UEFA super Cup get put in other, so putting in Other seems more consistent with what we do worldwide. Continental seems to be something you qualify for via domestic league, which this isn't. RedPatch (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging @Quickman70: for his thoughts. RedPatch (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Even other international competitions like UEFA super Cup get put in other, so putting in Other seems more consistent with what we do worldwide. Continental seems to be something you qualify for via domestic league, which this isn't. RedPatch (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Messi
editHow is there no mention of Messi joining MLS on July 15th? 68.41.52.205 (talk) 00:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2023
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Add FC Cincinnati to the table of winners. 0 MLS Cups, 1 Supporters' Shield (2023), 5 seasons. 2600:2B00:7ECE:5B00:8BD6:9E8:BFF7:DF2A (talk) 00:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 20:02, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Phoenix clubs
editIt's fairly confusing to see clubs 'founded' in 1975 only to click on the article to find they were founded in 2007 or similar. The date of the foundation of the current club should be used 80.194.54.138 (talk) 21:39, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- I can agree with that. "Claimed founding" years have been added and removed from this article several times. Some of the founding years are quite egregious too, particulary the four clubs claiming to have been founded in the 70s. All of those teams have had stretches of inactivity before a new team was founded with the same name (Vancouver: 1985–86, Portland: 1983–84, 1991–2000, Seattle: 1984–93, San Jose: 1989–95). BLAIXX 14:17, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- The teams and secondary sources use the NASL founding dates rather than the USL ones, so I don't think we should be making that call here. SounderBruce 04:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- None of the founding years are cited in that table so it's not really not clear to the reader where these numbers come from. Using Seattle as an example, most sources I see list 2007 as the founding date. I know the club is promoting "1974" with the new logo and the 50th anniversary but it still feels misleading to me and not universally backed up by secondary sources. Same goes for the other phoenix clubs. BLAIXX 14:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- The teams and secondary sources use the NASL founding dates rather than the USL ones, so I don't think we should be making that call here. SounderBruce 04:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Player Records
editI don't know how to edit (oopsies), but as of 2024, Gyasi Zardes is a top 10 MLS all-time goalscorer. List needs to be updated. SlossEdits (talk) 21:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Teams vs. Clubs
editI note that a user changed the heading of a section from Teams to Clubs. Out of the six major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada, Major League Soccer is the only one that predominantly uses the term Clubs, as many of their team names are preceded or succeeded by 'FC', where FC = Football Club. This is also how they are listed on their website. While I'm not opposed to this change, I wanted to point out that the National Football League page went through a similar discussion. So, if 'club' is the accepted term, then other references to 'teams' should be changed as well. Assadzadeh (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- MLS follows international soccer conventions for some terms; in my view, "club" refers to the organization as the whole while "team" is only the first-team squad. They are interchangeable in most contexts on Wikipedia, similar to how ties/draws are treated in American soccer articles, so making a whole thing out of a change would be pointless busywork. SounderBruce 05:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback. I think at a minimum it should be changed in the intro section, the infobox, and the tables under the 'Clubs' section. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2024 (UTC)