Talk:List of ongoing armed conflicts

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Wikidata list of ongoing conflicts

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Wikidata object Conflikt Place Placement Country Start No of deaths No of injured Instance of Direct cause Cause Follows Important events Consists of Effect Picture
Q4124982 2011–present Libyan factional fighting Libya Libya 2011-11-01 armed conflict
 
Q61896704 2019 India–Pakistan border skirmishes Kashmir India
Pakistan
2019-02-14 international incident
armed conflict
 
Q106171654 2021 Apure clashes La Victoria
Arauquita
Venezuela
Colombia
2021-03-21 armed conflict
refugee crisis
Q107461898 2021 Taliban offensive Afghanistan Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
2021-05-01 armed conflict
military offensive
withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan August 2021 Kabul attack
Capture of Zaranj
Fall of Kabul (2021)
2021 Kabul Airlift
 
Q110900195 2022 Democratic Republic of the Congo coup d'état allegations Democratic Republic of the Congo 2022-02-08 armed conflict
attempted coup d'état
Q124221028 2024 Ecuadorian conflict Ecuador 2024-01-09 armed conflict
urban warfare
Operation Metastasis
 
Q1519107 Afghanistan conflict Afghanistan Afghanistan 1978-04-27 civil war Soviet–Afghan War
Afghan Civil War
Afghan Civil War
Afghan Civil War
War in Afghanistan
War in Afghanistan
bombing of the Russian embassy in Kabul
 
Q4072719 Afghanistan–Pakistan skirmishes Durand Line Afghanistan
Pakistan
1949 war
skirmish
 
Q55390549 Anglophone Crisis Northwest
Southwest
2017-09-09 armed conflict
political crisis
 
Q115685604 Apurimac uprising Apurimac Department Peru 2022-12-07 armed conflict
Q17512479 Arab Winter Arab world 2012 war Arab Spring
Q20635380 Armenian–Azerbaijani border conflict Armenia–Azerbaijan border 1994-05-12 territorial dispute
armed conflict
Q113404565 August 2022 Nagorno-Karabakh clashes Kalbajar District
Lachin District
Khojaly
Azerbaijan
Armenia
2022-08-03 armed conflict
 
Q16351522 Bullaj (Marec) 21 prill 1999 1999-04-21 armed conflict
Q56312857 Counter-terrorist operation regime Belgorod Oblast Russia 2023-05-22 military occupation
armed conflict
 
Q116608868 Dnieper campaign Ukraine 2022-09-01 armed conflict liberation of Kherson
destruction of the Kakhovka Dam
Q106959326 Ethiopian civil conflict (2018–present) Ethiopia 2018-04-02 armed conflict
Q51139646 Gaza border protests Israel–Gaza Strip border State of Palestine 2018-03-30 183 9208 civil disorder
armed conflict
protest march
Land Day
 
Q553184 Gaza–Israel conflict Southern Levant State of Palestine 2006-06-28 3500 15000 armed conflict 2006 Palestinian legislative election Israeli disengagement from Gaza Gaza War of 2008-2009
2014 Gaza War
Gaza border protests
Operation Guardian of the Walls
"First Rain" Operation
Israel–Hamas war
 
Q29242 Georgian–Ossetian conflict South Ossetia 1989-11-10 war Georgian–Ossetian conflict of 1918–1920
1991–1992 South Ossetia War
Russo-Georgian War
Q65070966 ISIL–Taliban conflict Afghanistan Afghanistan 2015-11-11 1547 armed conflict
sectarian violence
Battle of Darzab (2018)
2021 Kabul airport attack
 
Q3119132 Indo-Pakistani wars and conflicts 1947-10-22 armed conflict
 
Q632787 Insurgency in the Maghreb (2002–) Maghreb 2002-04-11 war Solhan and Tadaryat massacre
 
Q61126993 Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war Levant Iran
Israel
Syria
2013 armed conflict February 2018 Israel–Syria incident
 
Q47015896 Iraqi conflict Iraq 2003-03-20 war
 
Q23198510 Islamic State insurgency in Tunisia Tunisia 2012 armed conflict
Q86831539 Islamist insurgency in the Sahel 2011-02-15 war
Q3241199 Israeli–Lebanese conflict Levant Israel
Lebanon
20th century international conflict
armed conflict
2006 Lebanon War
list of projectile attacks from Lebanon on Israel and the Golan Heights
 
Q151622 Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israel
State of Palestine
Palestine
1948-05-14 140500 armed conflict
ethnic conflict
intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine Gaza–Israel conflict
1948 Palestine War
Six-Day War
Yom Kippur War
Palestinian insurgency in South Lebanon
First Intifada
Second Intifada
 
Q89035147 Jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso Burkina Faso 2015-08-23 war Massacres de Komsilga, Nodin et Soroe
Combat de Samorogouan
Attaque d'Intangom
2016 Ouagadougou attacks
2016 Nassoumbou attack
Battle of the Foulsaré Forest
Battle of the Serma Forest (2017)
2017 Ouagadougou attack
Siege of Djibo
battle of Djibo
Battle of Koumbri
Aoréma attack
Attaque de Tin-Akoff
Combat d'Ariel
2018 Ouagadougou attack
Attaque d'Inata
Embuscade de Loroni
Yirgou massacre
Attaque de Koutougou
Arbinda attack
May 2019 Burkina Faso hostage rescue
Embuscade d'Hallalé
Attack in Markoye, Burkina Faso
Embuscade de Dounkoun
Attack in Boukouma
Attaque d'Inata (2021)
Opération Laabingol
January 2022 Burkina Faso coup d'état
Attaque de Madjoari
Attaque de Bourzanga
Attaque de Tin-Ediar
Q2652686 Kachin conflict Kachin State
Shan State
Myanmar 1961-02-05 war
 
Q1413732 Kashmir conflict Jammu and Kashmir Kashmir India
Pakistan
1947-10-22 47000 war Indo-Pakistani war of 1947–1948
2016–2018 India–Pakistan border skirmishes
2016 Kashmir unrest
2014 India–Pakistan border skirmishes
Kargil War
insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir
Siachen conflict
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965
 
Q327237 Kivu conflict Kivu 2004 war
environmental conflict
 
Q619749 Kurdish–Turkish conflict Eastern Anatolia Region
Southeastern Anatolia Region
Syria–Turkey border
Kurdistan Region
1978-11 ethnic conflict
armed conflict
conflict
Q18702324 Libyan Crisis Libya 2011-02-15 political crisis
civil war
humanitarian crisis
Libyan Civil War
Second Libyan Civil War
 
Q303801 Lord's Resistance Army insurgency 1987 war
 
Q2946372 Mali War Mali Mali 2012-01-16 7000 civil war 2020 Malian coup d'état
2012 Tuareg rebellion
 
Q110613097 Myanmar civil war Myanmar 2021-05-05 civil war
 
Q852088 Myanmar conflict Myanmar Myanmar 1948-04-02 civil war
 
Q16954835 Nagorno-Karabakh conflict South Caucasus 1988 ethnic conflict
armed conflict
Karabakh
Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh
 
Q110665625 Operation Bamenda Clean Bamenda 2020-09-08 armed conflict
Q85792714 Pemon conflict Venezuela 2016 armed conflict
Q110999040 Russian invasion of Ukraine Eastern Europe
Ukraine
Russia
Crimea
Ukraine
Luhansk People's Republic
Donetsk People's Republic
Russia
Belarus
Kherson State
Zaporozhye Oblast (state)
2022-02-24 42295
10000
war
military operation
military offensive
invasion
undeclared war
international conflict
war of aggression
Right of Collective Self-defense eastward expansion of NATO
Neo-Nazism in Ukraine
Russian irredentism
decommunization in Ukraine
Anti-Ukrainian sentiment
Президентство Виктора Януковича
Putin's Plan
prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine Siege of Mariupol
Bucha massacre
Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant crisis
Capture of Chernobyl
2022 Crimean Bridge explosion
2022 Russian mobilization
destruction of the Kakhovka Dam
Eastern Ukraine Campaign
southern Ukraine campaign
Northeastern Ukraine offensive
2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive
Russian annexation of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts
Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure
war crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine
attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
2022 Kherson counteroffensive
Belarusian and Russian partisan movement
Kyiv offensive
Positionen von Religionsgemeinschaften zum Russischen Überfall auf die Ukraine 2022
2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive
reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Ukrainian refugee crisis
economic impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine
solidarity concerts for Ukraine
2022 Russian mobilization
Call Russia
2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine
nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Finland–NATO relations
Геапалітычныя наступствы ў выніку расейскага ўварваньня ва Ўкраіну
attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
international sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Wagner Group rebellion
Wagner Group–Russian Ministry of Defence conflict
accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO
 
Q15860072 Russo-Ukrainian War Sea of Azov
Rostov Oblast
Ukraine
Crimea
Ukraine
Russia
Belarus
Donetsk People's Republic
Luhansk People's Republic
2014-02-20 war Revolution of Dignity
Russian colonialism
eastward expansion of NATO
dissolution of the Soviet Union
historical background of the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine
Euromaidan
annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation
Minsk agreements
2014 Russian invasion of Crimea
War in Donbas
Kerch Strait incident
prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine
Russian invasion of Ukraine
2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine
Russian annexation of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts
Kriegsführung im Russisch-Ukrainischen Krieg
international sanctions during the Russo-Ukrainian War
Russian–Ukrainian church war
2022 annexation referendums in Russian-occupied Ukraine
list of foreign aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War
 
Q243620 Somali Civil War Somalia Somalia 1991-01-26 civil war
 
Q1052332 Somali Civil War 2009-present Somalia 2009-01-31 civil war War in Somalia (2006–2009)
 
Q1094356 South Thailand insurgency Southern Thailand Thailand 2004-01-04 armed conflict
 
Q1795374 Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile South Kordofan 2011-05-11 armed conflict
 
Q178810 Syrian Civil War Syria Syria 2011-03-15 570000 civil war
proxy war
communal violence
Arab Spring human rights in Syria
Sectarianism and minorities in the Syrian civil war
Siege of Daraa
Khan Shaykhun chemical attack
Battle of Baghuz Fawqani
2019 Turkish offensive into north-eastern Syria
foreign involvement in the Syrian civil war
Chronik des Bürgerkriegs in Syrien 2022
Chronik des Bürgerkriegs in Syrien 2021
War against the Islamic State
spillover of the Syrian Civil War
international reactions to the Syrian civil war
 
Q121160319 War in Amhara Amhara Region Amhara Region Ethiopia 2023 armed conflict 2023 Fano–ENDF clashes
Q66474138 War in Catatumbo Catatumbo River Colombia
Venezuela
2018-01 war
 
Q190758 War in Darfur Darfur Sudan 2003-02-26 war international response to the War in Darfur
 
Q16335075 War in Donbas Donbas
Donetsk Oblast
Luhansk Oblast
Ukraine 2014-04-06 13300
3375
armed conflict
civil war
combat operations
Revolution of Dignity
2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine
18–21 February 2014 clashes in Ukraine
Russian irredentism
2014 Euromaidan regional state administration occupations
konfrontace mezi Ruskem a Západem
 
Q117716414 War in Sudan Khartoum Sudan 2023-04-15 413 3000 attempted coup d'état
civil war
conflict
timeline of the 2023 Sudan conflict
Operation Raus aus Khartum
 
Q115177203 War on Drugs in Ecuador Ecuador 2018-01-27 armed conflict
Q185729 War on Terror 2001-09-11 war September 11 attacks
Arab–Israeli conflict
Second Chechen War
Afghanistan conflict
Q19686631 Yemeni civil war Yemen
Najran Province
Yemen 2014-09-16 civil war Battle of Aden Airport The battle of the presidential house in Sanaa Saudi-led intervention in the Yemeni civil war
Battle of Al Mukalla
Battle of Aden (2015)
Battle of Ad Dali'
Lahij insurgency
Taiz campaign
Shabwah campaign
Abyan campaign
Marib campaign
Battle of Ibb
Battle of Port Midi
Battle of Utmah
Battle of Al Jawf
Shabwah Governorate offensive
Battle of Al Mukalla (2016)
December 2015 Taiz missile attack
June 2016 Mukalla attacks
September 2015 Marib Toshka missile attack
Battle of Nihm
Battle of Sana'a
Al Hudaydah governorate offensive
Saudi-led intervention in the Yemeni civil war
emigration
 
Q107568022 clashes at Cota 905 Cota 905 Venezuela 2021-07-08 turf war
armed conflict
Q115628162 honduran gang crackdown (2022–present) Honduras 2022-12-06 armed conflict
Q179275 insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Federally Administered Tribal Areas Pakistan
Islamic Emirate of Waziristan
2004-03-16 war
 
Q6576609 list of projectile attacks from Lebanon on Israel and the Golan Heights Northern District Galilee
Golan Heights
Israel 1968 aspect of history
aerial warfare
armed conflict
ethnic conflict
 
Q17272643 spillover of the Syrian Civil War Israel
Jordan
Turkey
Lebanon
Syria
Iraq
Egypt
2011 war
war spillover
 

∑ 62 items.

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Inaccurate and tendentious categorisation of Israel-Hamas war

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Grouping all of the wars Israel has been involved in since 1948 as one conflict is self-evidently non-factual, tendentious and deliberately intended to inflate the total casualty count (which itself is highly dubious; hundreds of thousands!? Add up the casualties in the 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982 and then other conflicts does not come close to 300,000). The total Arab casualties in all of the wars of the Arab-Israeli conflict in the Arab-Israeli conflict article is around 90,000. If you're actually saying Israel is a "belligerent in the Yemeni civil war", and then adding all of the deaths from that conflict (given Israel has not struck back at all and is not at war with Yemen or Houthis, and has not caused any deaths in Yemen) is so obviously biased, as is calling Israel a "belligerent" in what are, in fact, unlawful terror attacks by a non-state actor. I don't know how to do a signature here so sorry User:Idontknowhowtodothissorry -- 2 May 2024 2a02:6b6d:1338:0:fd31:8c17:3cf2:3a56


Double Counting of Casualties in Israel Palestine Conflict--Casualty Rate Should Read 165,000 (110,000-210,000)

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The table links to a source that includes in its casualty list deaths from the Israel Palestine conflict, but to get the final number the editors added those to the previous number thus double counting them. What's more, the source itself already double counts casualties because it includes dead from the 1947-1949 war twice.

But, on top of this, the source is confusing but is incorrectly cited. It lists conflicts with parties to them, not the casualties caused by them. Comparing the source to the pages for each of the conflicts in question produces much smaller estimates. For example, read incorrectly, the linked source suggests that some ~58,000 (60,000 across conflicts) people have died in wars between Israel and Lebanon, when even the highest Lebanese estimates are 20,000. Estimates range from 13,000-15,000 at the lower end, and 18,000-34,000 at the higher end (and that's with double counting in civilian and combatant casualties as it is !). This means that EVEN WITH THE SOURCES IN QUESTION, THE CASUALTY RATE OF THE CONFLICT IS AT MINIMUM 24,000 SMALLER, and up to 45,000!.

When we account for the double counting, this results in a reduction of 14,000-27,000--so the numbers are 38,000-72,000 smaller.

Adding up the casualty estimates provided on the wikipedia pages for each conflict, before adding the Israel-Palestine numbers gets us a range of 57-115. The Israel Palestine conflict page lists 53-65. Except, more than half of these are already included in the previous estimate. HOWEVER, even if we do not account for this we get a range of 110-168,000. Now if we add the recent Gaza war-which, again would be double counting in part--we would add 43,000.

This means that even if we triple count Palestinian casualties listed on the wikipedia pages, our total rises to 153,--210,000--and EVEN THAT includes deaths not caused by Israel, double counts many victims, counts missing as dead, and so on.

Even if we add Israelis killed in terrorism and riots (5-15,000 depending on how we count), Palestinians killed in intra-Palestinian violence (2000), The war of the camps between Lebanon and the PLO (4500--6500) and deaths in Black September between Jordan and Palestine (4000 in official estimates, but Arafat claims 15,000 Palestinians killed by Jordan, which would put the total at 16,000) we would get 15-40,000 more deaths and that would put our total at 168-250,000.

While the latter estimate is larger than the one listed on the page, this one includes 25,000 Palestinians killed by Lebanese, Jordanian, and Palestinian forces, it double counts a portion of Israeli terror victims (soldiers who died in terror attacks are listed in both war and civilian casualty estimates, and thus over state the estimates), while taking the higher estimate of those dead--thus increasing the estimate by up to 30,000.

It double counts the dead prior to 1948, it double counts the dead in the 47-49 war, it triple counts Palestinian casualties in wars since the first intifada, it counts all those who have died in Lebanese wars, even those who were not killed by Israel (indeed including even those who died in wars before Israel even got involved!), it takes the higher estimates of dead in every conflict, even where US, & Israel estimates VASTLY lower, UN estimates are much lower, and independent Arab state & Human Rights organization estimates are somewhat lower.

The double and triple counting adds 35,000-80,000 deaths. Taking the highest estimates adds 57,000.

Notably, adding together the total casualties from more reliable sources gets us 122,000 before the recent war, and then 43,000 for the recent war, bringing us to 165,000!

Notice, this brings us a very similar estimate to taking the lower estimate from all the respective wikipedia pages for each of the episodes of the Israel Palestine conflict.

Since independent sourcing leads to a similar estimate to the one produced by using other wikipedia sources at the lower end, this is a good indicator it is of reliability, especially since getting the higher estimates requires that up to 14% (35/250) - 40% (80/193) of the casualties attributed are Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians and Jordanians killed by other Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians, and it requires taking the higher estimate in every case, which accounts for 23% (57/250) -- 50% (58/115) of the deaths. If 55% of a casualty estimate ((57+80)/250) depends on attributing deaths of people killed by other states, and taking the higher estimate of casualties in every single case, chances are the estimate is off!

Thus, the page here: 1. incorrectly cites a source 2. misrepresents that sources claims 3. cites a source which itself engages in double counting and unclear attribution 4. does not line up with the other wikipedia pages' conflict estimates or those of their sources *EVEN AT THEIR HIGHER END* 5. to be true requires an estimate that requires 14-40% of the deaths be those caused by other states, and 23-50% of the casualty estimates are due to taking the higher range of each estimate, with a combined effect that 55% of casualties are tendentiously attributed 6. does not line up with independent sourcing

Meanwhile, another estimate (165,000), which: 1. Uses independent sources 2. Minimizes double counting 3. Only attributes deaths caused by Israel 4. Lines up with the lower estimates of the relevant wikipedia pages and their sources 5. Is self consistent 6. Strikes a moderate balance between the estimates of US, Israel, UN, Arab League, Hamas, PLO, Hezbollah, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, academics and so on 7. Lines up with the cited source for this wikipedia page *IF* considerations are taken to interpret it correctly (which would give us a base of 114-159,000, to which we would add the 43,000 of the recent war, giving us 157,000--210,000

Thus, the estimate of 165,000 lines up with the: 1. Other wikipedia pages 2. Their sources 3. Independent sources 4. The *VERY SOURCE USED FOR THIS PAGE* if properly interpreted

THUS EVEN BY THE STANDARDS OF THE SOURCES CITED THE ESTIMATE GIVEN ON THE PAGE IS INFLATED BY 50%! A FULL THIRD OF THE CASUALTIES LISTED ARE IMPROPERLY ATTRIBUTED OR COMPLETELY FABRICATED !

This does not require using Israeli or US estimates (which are *lower* than the 165,000 estimate!). In fact, it holds even if we use the estimates of Arab states (the highest ones--which would produce at the highest 210,000 as above), human rights organizations (the second highest), or scholarly academic sources (those in the median range).

US and Israeli sources would give us a total estimate somewhere near 100-120,000

UN, Human Rights organization and Academic sources give us our middle range of 165,000.

The highest estimates give us a total of 210,000.

Notice further that the middle range estimate of 165,000 is roughly the mean of the lower, medium, and high estimates. This is further indication of its validity since it balances opposed viewpoints and expertises.

Thus, the casualty range for the Israel Palestine conflict should--to be charitable to all the different perspectives and viewpoints--read something like:

Deaths:

165,000 (110,000--210,000)

Not the current 230-241,000 which is false even on its own terms!



Source used by article [1]

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I made a table of the estimates given in the source linked for this page, and added below it the estimates given by other wikipedia pages:

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Change the minimum estimate of those killed in the conflict in Ukraine to 120,000+

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At the moment, according to the minimally recorded obituaries on both sides, the number of deaths should exceed 120 thousand people; the information in the article is outdated: 1) 54,000+ dead on the Russian side https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng 2) 46,000+ dead on the Ukrainian side https://ualosses.org/ 3) 10,000+ civilian deaths https://ukraine.un.org/en/253322-civilian-deaths-ukraine-war-top-10000-un-says 4) there is no point in proving the number of deaths before a full-scale war, I think these numbers are already in the public domain: approximately 14,000 people

You have some 100,000 victims listed, it can no longer be such a low estimate, I ask you to remove this

Democratic Republic of the Congo is listed twice.

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I'm not sure why, but the DRC is listed twice on the table for Deaths by country in the 2023 section. The first says that deaths rose by 8,342, but the second says that deaths lowered by 3,902. Since the table goes by fatalities by country, it should be only one number. Tornadoboy7 (talk) 23:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

North Korea and South Korea

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If North Korea is yellow at the map, then South Korea should be yellow too. Both countries are officially still at war. Dasomm (talk) 20:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

The only casualties as a result of fighting in the current or past year have been in North Korea. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 19:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why is the USA White?

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At the very least, America is still involved in the Syrian civil war and the Red Sea conflict. Yes, they only had 3 non-combat losses in the Red Sea, but in the Middle East, a drone attacked their military base, and Biden personally met the coffins brought to America. This qualifies as 1-99 losses, so America needs to be repainted in Yellow. I insist. 31.202.71.56 (talk) 06:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

The Papua conflict location

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the Papua conflict is not on Asia, but on Oceania because is on the island of new Guinea, that is part of the continent of Oceania. Delfi707 (talk) 06:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Total fatalities for Islamic State insurgency in the North Caucasus is incorrect

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The source cited for total fatalities appears to be the fatalities for the first and second Chechen wars, not the ongoing insurgency. Total casualties for conflict according to the linked page appears to be around a thousand. Chiss5618 (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Arab Israel conflict

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Iran and proxies conflict with Israel isn't really part of arab Israeli conflict.

It should be in another category of Iran - Israel conflict, and maybe also part of Israel Palestine conflict, this war is lead by Iran and Hamas which are tied more to their religious! and national identities then their respective iranian and arab ones. 46.121.26.191 (talk) 20:32, 15 November 2024 (UTC)Reply