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A reconstruction of Attila - image
edit"A reconstruction of Attila by George S. Stuart, Museum of Ventura County." image shows Attila riding a horse with his foot in a stirrup.
The Huns didn't know the stirrup. It was invented by the Magyars. That George S. Stuart didn't know that, well... it's just an artifahrty picture. But using this false image in a supposedly scientific article reveals that the author doesn't have any knowledge of the subject either. From here on the article and it's author have lost all credibility and it become a cyber-rubbish in best case or an anti Hun/Magyar propaganda piece at worst.
Predecessors and Sucessors
editThe huns formed a state, proto-state under Bleda and Attila. Thats the consensus (even if it was a "robbing state")
So, it should have their predecessors and sucessors¡
For predecessors:
-Since the xiong-Nu connection debate will rage for some time, no mention should be done.
-The Alans, conquered by huns
-The Greuthungi, conquered by huns
-The Thervingi, conquered in part by huns
-Roman Pannonia province: base under Attila
-Perhaps lombards, ruggi,sarmatian, and other conquered tribes
Successors:
-After Nedao:
-The kingdom of the Rugii
-The kingdom of the Gepids
-The kingdom of the Ostrogoths
-A suebian kingdom in the danube.
Bolghars, kutrigurs, utrigurs remain speculative, so no for the moment.
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Links to the Hungarians
editThe Hun empire fall apart after Attila's death around 450 AD.
The Magyars - as they call themselves - came into the Carpathian basin around 950 AD.
They DO NOT call themselves HUNs. So why does the west call them HUNgarians after some half-a-thousand years? Surely not because it's easy to identify that they are the same genetic stock with the same culture! Rather invent a confusing 'history' of an unknown nothing-here-move-on story of gobbledygook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.29.185 (talk) 03:33, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2024
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I only want to add Black Huns because at times they are referred to as so. Holyorthocracy (talk) 04:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- ?—Ermenrich (talk) 11:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 13:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2024
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I only want to add after "Huns" I want to add "Also known as Attila's Huns and Black Huns". I want to add this because they are at times referred to as so. Holyorthocracy (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not by reliable sources.—-Ermenrich (talk) 11:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 13:23, 7 August 2024 (UTC)