Talk:2024 Atlantic hurricane season

Hurricane Isaac's track line

Hurricane Isaac's track line in the seasonal map is different from that of the storm's individual track line. Could someone fix this? Thanks. It's been like this for a few months Zetamewies (talk) 03:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Francine track image

For some reason, it shows it being a category 1. This needs to be fixed. Joseph Ca98 (talk) 22:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

@Joseph Ca98: The peak was not at a synoptic time and thus isnt shown on the map. The peak occurred at 21:00 UTC where the synoptic times of 18:00 and 00:00 UTC both have lower intensities. Noah, BSBA^Talk 22:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

oh, ok Joseph Ca98 (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Record number of hurricanes past September 25

An NOAA evaluation of the season notes that the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season had a record number of hurricanes after September 25. I am unsure on how to weave it into the article and I can see a few places to put it: in the lead's third paragraph; in the middle of the peak-to-late season section; at the end of the peak-to-late season section. However, all of those are somewhat unsatisfying to me and I would like a second opinion, thanks ✶Quxyz✶ 17:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

My initial thought is that it would work best in the third paragraph of the lead, and at the end of the peak-to-late season section. I also like, for the article opening sentence, the way NOAA describes the season as "impactful and deadly." Drdpw (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Possible wording for lead and summary:

The 2024 Atlantic hurricane season was an above-average and extremely [second-most] destructive Atlantic hurricane season with yadda yadda many storms. The season was also categorized as hyperactive in terms of ACE,[1] accumulating 162 points.

Activity dramatically increased in late September with several strong storms developing. Seven hurricanes formed after September 25, the most on record. Hurricane Helene...

...Next came Hurricane Rafael, which formed in the southwestern Caribbean. It made landfall in Cuba at Category 3 strength. Then, in mid-November, Tropical Storm Sara formed over the western Caribbean. Overall, seven hurricanes formed after September 25, the most on record.

I am not entirely sure on how to incorporate impactful and deadly as I feel that above-average is a more important and less buzzy term. Also, I added a not about hyperactive, though we may want a source besides FOX. ✶Quxyz✶ 17:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

The problem is where we could get the evidence from a reliable source that the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season is above average and has so far been very active. I don't know if we should use the NHC or any other source for the evidence? Williamwang363 (talk) 01:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't like the repetitiveness in the possible wording. It unnecessarily repeats the fact twice, in the beginning of the second paragraph and the end of the last paragraph. One of those sentences should be removed, preferably the latter. _ZZ^Z'S 02:00, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

@Zzzs It is slightly choppy, should've clarified; excerpt 2 is in the lead and excerpt 3 is at the end of the seasonal summary. ✶Quxyz✶ 02:02, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Oh. Scratch what I said earlier. Also, don't ping me since I have subscribed to this discussion. _ZZ^Z'S 02:04, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry and thank you for the quick response, I just wanted to be sure that you got it cause the thread was getting a bit complicated as I had to address both you and William Wang. ✶Quxyz✶ 02:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

The NOAA source listed in the initial comment is acceptable for usage to support the claim. ✶Quxyz✶ 02:03, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Hurricane season has ended as of November 30, so maybe we should update the first paragraph to mention that the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season was an above average hurricane season. Williamwang363 (talk) 16:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Mentioning pressure-wind estimations for fish storms based on TCR report

I recently made the article Pressure-wind relationship calculations in tropical cyclones meaning that (once I or someone else get around to writing it) we can wikilink the methods by which peak wind or minimum pressure was calculated for a storm. For example, Joyce's TCR states that its pressure was calculated based on the Knaff-Zehr-Courtney model (which is the main one that I would like to get added to the pressure-wind article). I am bring this up on the talk page as I want to inquiry on if we want to start doing this. I chose to bring it up here as I want a smaller testing space; if it is well received, then I could see it expanding to the rest of the Atlantic or all of WPTC. ✶Quxyz✶ 22:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)