Talk:1975 Asian Men's Volleyball Championship

On 26 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to 1975 Men's Asian Volleyball Championship. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Requested move 26 January 2024

Latest comment: 9 months ago8 comments4 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. There's no consensus to move or not move at this time. ⁠ ⁠BarrelProof raised valid concerns that would need to be addressed. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

– Consistency with the parent article. (Note: Other similar articles are title as what I proposed such as 1975 Men's European Volleyball Championship and 1975 Men's South American Volleyball Championship and per WP:UCRN.) 06:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Warm Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 15:18, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Should these have titles like 1975 Men's Asian Volleyball Confederation championship? It looks like the 'C' in "AVC" is for "Confederation" in the cited source. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Actual event names in some of these cited sources are all over the place, such as "SMM 2017 ASIAN MEN'S SENIOR BNI 46 VOLLEYBALL CHAMPIONSHIP" or "SMM 20th Asian 'Tourism Bank' Sr. Men's Volleyball Championship". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 04:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
@BarrelProof: Yeah, then there's a good chance the move which put the parent article at the current title may need to be reverted. In fact, the nominator here is the same nominator of Talk:Men's Asian Volleyball Championship#Requested move 10 September 2023; I'm thinking they should have probably listed all the articles in one swoop in the previous discussion to fortify consensus, but then again, WP:AGF and WP:CCC and the such, so it is what it is and I don't fault them for anything they did. Steel1943 (talk) 04:40, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Comment: For what it's worth, Talk:Men's Asian Volleyball Championship#Requested move 10 September 2023 is relevant. (Yes, there was a discussion, but the only participant was the nominator. Might warrant a discussion to dispute the assumed WP:SILENCE.) Steel1943 (talk) 04:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Comment: Just noting here that the nomination rationale was edited by the nominator in the edit prior to this edit, possibly violating WP:REDACT since the nominator did not mention they edited their rationale. Steel1943 (talk) 05:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose: The proposed titles seem unsourced. Actual titles in cited sources are all over the place, as mentioned above. More precise and arguably accurate titles are needed, probably including the name of the organization that hosts the events and perhaps using WP:SENTENCECASE (e.g. "YYYY Asian Volleyball Confederation men's volleyball championship" or "YYYY AVC men's volleyball championship"). I looked at the Men's European Volleyball Championship and Men's South American Volleyball Championship title groups, and they seem to have the same problems. I find no sourcing for these titles. Having other bad titles does not justify having bad titles for this group. Notability is not even established for some of these, as no WP:independent reliable sources are cited. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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