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An RfC that you may be interested in...

As one of the previous contributors to {{Infobox film}} or as one of the commenters on it's talk page, I would like to inform you that there has been a RfC started on the talk page as to implementation of previously deprecated parameters. Your comments and thoughts on the matter would be welcomed. Happy editing!

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Re: Korean IPA

I'm familiar with it, but not an expert. Need help with something? quant18 (talk) 05:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Quant18, I was wondering if you think this is right: Template:Hangugeo. Jaewon [Talk] 12:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hey, sorry not to get back to you quicker, crazy couple of days. Only one change: Korean pronunciation: [tɕʌnh(j)ebin]. Basically, the "ㅈ" (e.g. in her surname) is unvoiced at the start of a word. Cheers, quant18 (talk) 14:00, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Quant18, no problem. Wow, I was one character short of getting it right. Thanks. Jaewon [Talk] 14:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Quant18, I found this template and it produces [d͡ʑeːoːnhjeːbiːn]. Different from what we have. Jaewon [Talk] 15:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hmm:
  1. I think you have to pass it "eo" as a single parameter: {{IPAc-ko|j|eo|n|h|y|e|b|i|n}}.
  2. There's a rule in Template:C-ko (the backend for Template:IPAc-ko) to allow "j" to show up as /tɕ/ instead of /dʑ/ at the beginning of words, but I can't figure out how to use it. So I guess you also have to manually distinguish those two situations (and "g" = /g/ or /k/, "b" = /b/ or /p/) in the template: {{IPAc-ko|tɕ|eo|n|h|y|e|b|i|n}}
  3. However even after those two changes, the result is not entirely correct: the template assumes that all vowels are long (that's what the colon-like symbol is for). This is definitely incorrect. The default assumption (particularly in names) should be to write the vowels without any length marker, because many speakers no longer distinguish long vs. short vowels.
So unfortunately I think this template is still a work in progress, and for now it's better to write out the IPA manually using the table at Korean phonology. quant18 (talk) 02:04, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Opps, I didn't notice that while I was typing. Yeah, I noticed that nobody else has worked on it and the creator hasn't been on for a while. Jaewon [Talk] 02:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Namoo Actors

I am not familiar with AfC procedure. The article looks borderline notable, with my gut feeling being not notable, due to very few independent sources. Perhaps it could be improved with Korean ones, but for now it looks spammy. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:51, 27 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I think the article is somewhat promotional as there is not that much coverage in independent sources, but there's probably borderline enough for me not to worry about it too much. Thanks for taking interest in AfC! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:01, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Merge. Or if you feel lazy, move to mainspace and tag with merge tags. (That's why I dislike all the AfC, draft, sandbox and such things... to much content is duplicated, or forgotten). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:34, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Quality Reassessment

Thank you for reassessing Krystal, I am trying to improve this page :)

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Sandbox Reviewed

I'm new to Wikipedia so just wondering why my sandbox got reviewed? Is that a formal process? Thanks. --TerryAlex (talk) 18:47, 18 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ah, I see. Thank you. I was just wondering because that page is pretty much just "nonsense" that supposed to be read "only" by me.

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Go Eun-bi

Merge discussion has been closed, in favor of merging it to Ladies' Code. But currently I have some urgent things to do in real life, so can you help merging it? Thanks, Revicomplaint? 16:40, 11 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Hym411: Sorry about the late reply, my computer's heatsink needed to be replaced. I'll try to merge it because I have this odd feeling that it might get undid. Jaewon [Talk] 00:24, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Hmm, it seems that there's still some disagreement, but it should be resolved with discussions. — revi^ 10:16, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Hym411: I don't think many of them understand that they can't use her death as a way to keep the page. Jaewon [Talk] 13:35, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
Yes, and that will be primary reason of undo (if someone does so). PS 1: You don't have to ping me every time you reply: I'm watching this page. PS 2. I saw your userpage and found me on Reliable Contributors - Thanks! xD — revi^ 14:01, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
And they might put us on their wall of shame for merging their articles. Feels like its WP Korea vs K-pop for some reason. It's a reminder for me and others of people who are reliable. You're welcome! xD Jaewon [Talk] 14:39, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
I saw you finished the merge. Thank you! — revi^ 13:26, 20 September 2014 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome. I almost forgot how to merge at first. Haha! Hope nobody tries to undo it. Jaewon [Talk] 14:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Halloween cheer!

Thanks, Kkj11210. Jaewon [Talk] 20:59, 29 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you!

Hi Jay2kx. Thanks so much for restoring my student's work on Suicide in South Korea. It is her first Wikipedia contribution and your support will help make this a much better experience for her. DStrassmann (talk) 19:28, 29 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

DStrassmann, you're welcome. Jaewon [Talk] 20:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Korean drama/GA1

What's the problem (2nd opinion requested) here? I would like to help ;)  revimsg 09:36, 12 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. We needed somebody else (besides me) to review it to see if it meets good article criteria. Jaewon [Talk] 15:55, 12 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Well, I haven't performed GA review either, so maybe find mentors on here? There's mentor section... If you fail to find one, I can do it though (which will be really incomplete).  revimsg 01:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Alright, I'll try that. Jaewon [Talk] 01:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Kpop article help

Hello. I'm a fairly new editor to Wikipedia trying to de-fan some of the Kpop articles. I saw some of your comments from earlier this year on the Korea working group and thought maybe you could help me. I've taken a few actions myself, namely removing the lists of nicknames from various singers and variety personalities' infoboxes. But I want to nominate some articles for deletion, namely some of the out-of-control articles written about couples from 'We Got Married'. Some couples have articles dedicated just to them, which surely isn't appropriate (there are no articles for John & Yoko, for Lucy & Desi, both of whom are 1000x more notable than WGM couples). One couple even has articles for each season of the show, just for that couple. To me, that's like an article called "Songs by Mariah Carey with 'Love' in the Title." And there are navigation boxes at the bottom of the articles with links to the 'husband' and 'wife's Wikipedia pages, their management companies' pages (which have nothing to do with WGM), and anything else the creators thought they could squeeze in there. Surely none of this belongs on Wikipedia?!

However, I have no experience with making such nominations. I'm afraid people will argue they are notable because there are (as with everything in Korean entertainment) gazillions of articles in Korean media on those couples, which have all been faithfully translated by Allkpop and fansites into English & other languages. ((In fact, the whole "notability" issue seems difficult in the area of Korean entertainment by Wikipedia standards, because so much of the media coverage is for promotional purposes and as such is unrelated to notability. There are also, IMO, issues with the non-fact-checked nature of many articles in the Korean media when it comes to claims about Kpop-related revenues, concert attendance, etc - most media just reprint whatever the company tells them, and a lot of time it's not true. Of course, the Korean media won't say this and the foreign media don't care, so how to address this? But that's a deeper discussion for another time - though one I'd like to eventually have.)) I have read through deletion nomination documentation but I can't figure out what violations to cite and some of the other requirements (where to post stuff) is a bit murky/overwhelming also. Can you help with some guidance? Or point me to other sensible, experienced editors who could help? I tried the Teahouse but got zilch; things just move too fast there for anything in-depth.

Thank you so much. Shinyang-i (talk) 08:41, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

(talk page stalker) If you wish to nominate something for deletion, you are looking for WP:AFD.  Revi 16:11, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
That "Talk page stalker" made me laugh. Jaewon [Talk] 21:13, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Shinyang-i, what articles are those nav boxes on? Jaewon [Talk] 21:13, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the quick reply Jaewon & Revi. The worst infobox is on YongSeo, but even the We Got Married infobox is mainly an excuse to link to couples pages that shouldn't even exist in the first place, calling them "notable couples" (YongSeo, Khuntoria, and Taeun). The WGM infobox also has a section for "other couples" but only lists a few of them (with links to each individual's article). Like, I don't even understand what's going on there. I can't really see why 'We Got Married' needs an infobox at all, and I can't see how any of those couples pages (and the associated 'Khuntoria in season 2' and 'Khuntoria's background music' articles, etc.) are appropriate for Wikipedia. But I'm afraid someone will cry that it's all notable, because there have doubtless been a quadrillion articles in Korean media on all of those subjects. Can you help advise with the appropriate criteria to cite for AFD? Thank you so, so much! Shinyang-i (talk) 22:26, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Shinyang-i, that's true. I feel like articles like YongSeo and others could be merged with the season that they belong to. But messing with it is like poking a hornets nest. Either way, I left a question on WGM's talk page to see if any of the main contributors will reply back to it and if nobody replies back before Thursday, we can propose a move. Jaewon [Talk] 04:09, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Jaewon. This is exactly the kind of help I was hoping for, to observe the kind of procedures that are appropriate (like moving a page versus deleting, and seeing subsequent processes). This entire "hornets' nest" situation reminds of all the anime articles, and how a lot of that was allowed to get out of control because only/mostly anime fans were involved in any of the decisions. When only fans are calling the shots, things get judged differently than and of far greater importance related to the rest of Wikipedia. Thank you, again, for the guidance - it's very useful & educational! Shinyang-i (talk) 01:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
It is like with K-pop articles too and it depends on the subject or people. I checked the talk page of WGM and one person replied. Hopefully, more people will reply soon. Jaewon [Talk] 02:14, 15 December 2014 (UTC)Reply