Message from @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU

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2019-09-07 19:15:10 UTC  

that's retarded - I can theoretically take pretty much everything from you, including your sense of self and whatno

2019-09-07 19:15:11 UTC  

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2019-09-07 19:15:19 UTC  

just give me enough tools

2019-09-07 19:15:21 UTC  

its amusing that the Left seems to be attacking Rights

2019-09-07 19:15:26 UTC  

they probably just dont like the name

2019-09-07 19:15:59 UTC  

I don't like em cause I think they stem from false anthropology 🤷

2019-09-07 19:16:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/619974320294330403/John_locke_liberalism_hippity_hoppity_life_liberty_property.jpg

2019-09-07 19:17:09 UTC  

the way i think of it is that what people mean by god is 'the apparent reality of the universe'

2019-09-07 19:17:31 UTC  

jews dont eat pork because 3k years ago, it wasnt safe to eat, so its almost like 'gods telling us not to eat it'

2019-09-07 19:17:58 UTC  

and if we are born with a inherent desire for self preservation as living things are, thats as if 'god says we have a right to defend ourselves'

2019-09-07 19:18:01 UTC  

it was safe tbh, you just had to cook it more

2019-09-07 19:18:13 UTC  

it was more dangerous that other meats

2019-09-07 19:18:13 UTC  

but they din know it

2019-09-07 19:18:21 UTC  

at the time of their knowledge

2019-09-07 19:18:33 UTC  

so if you just say 'fuck it just dont eat that youll be fine'

2019-09-07 19:18:35 UTC  

*Actual* rights are built on baseline assumptions, but if you disagree on those fundamental assumptions, as Doom does, you'll find the concept irrelevant.

2019-09-07 19:18:44 UTC  

youll have more people living if its not allowed

2019-09-07 19:18:54 UTC  

pretty much yes

2019-09-07 19:18:58 UTC  

agreement of the fundamentals

2019-09-07 19:19:27 UTC  

the way i see it is that some modes of being are more effective than others

2019-09-07 19:19:33 UTC  

aka, cultures being better or worse

2019-09-07 19:19:45 UTC  

pretty much: as I said, I'm annoyed by the anthropology they come from, not by them in and of themselves

2019-09-07 19:19:48 UTC  

and so the ones that are exceeding are doing more things 'correct' than not

2019-09-07 19:20:22 UTC  

its like democracy via bodycount over a million years

2019-09-07 19:20:45 UTC  

Indeed

2019-09-07 19:20:49 UTC  

or like in Fallout with their vault tests

2019-09-07 19:20:57 UTC  

I find the assumptions are useful, and good even, but I do see where you come from on the matter Doom. Even if I think that removing the basis of society without a strong (as of yet undiscovered) moral basis to be no good.

2019-09-07 19:21:00 UTC  

they give each vault a set of rules, and monitor which ones are more successful

2019-09-07 19:21:22 UTC  

well, you can have interdependent but distinct game plans that operate as the 'optimal' game plan withing a give nsystem

2019-09-07 19:21:25 UTC  

thats always the problem

2019-09-07 19:21:27 UTC  

Except they don't monitor anything because they are all dead

2019-09-07 19:21:37 UTC  

game theory allows for different game plans to be viable

2019-09-07 19:22:06 UTC  

show me other viable game plans that dont result in more suffering than Christian/Capitalistic/Free Marketry

2019-09-07 19:22:24 UTC  

i dont see it anywhere

2019-09-07 19:22:26 UTC  

Game theory is the guy that is a cuck, right?

2019-09-07 19:22:28 UTC  

thieves have a game plan that relies on other ppl not stealing, but their game plan IS good, as long as they are not too big a part of the population

2019-09-07 19:22:54 UTC  

and they dont succeed as often as fair traders with repeat interactions

2019-09-07 19:22:59 UTC  

and they cause suffering to others

2019-09-07 19:23:02 UTC  

ehh\

2019-09-07 19:23:04 UTC  

depends

2019-09-07 19:23:09 UTC  

As long as we don't wander back into the "Taxes are automatically theft" territory again. >.>