Message from @RevStench
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Since the house was built in the 50s the waste lines penetrate the floor in a lead elbow. They attach a brass flange to the floor and fold the lead out and over the flange. The half bath at this location had a damaged flange and had to be replaced
To replace it you take a screwdriver and pair of pliers in gently pry the lead upward away from the flange until you can remove the old flange. When properly installed the lead is soldered to the flange but you can get it squared up and screw it to the floor and then fold the lid back down. This is where the wax ring will sit for the new toilet
You'll notice that part of the lead has broken away. It becomes brittle over time. As long as there is enough lead to fold back against the inner throat of the flange you will be okay
In the full bath I am adding a pedestal sink. Since you don't have a vanity it gives you a little bit more room in a tight bathroom. Here are the water lines with a new valves attached and the drain that i will be using
Do they still sell that lead boot?
No. The entire elbow is lead. Where this one penetrates the floor it is about 2 foot long and plugs directly into the black Iron. Nowadays they rip that out and replace it with PVC back to the black Iron. I know a carpenter friend that when he tears those out he makes musket balls out of them for his black powder rifle
Looks exactly like the lead boot I use for box gutters
Haha that's funny
But the gutter boot is like 18 inches or so
Yes I was talking to a plumber today and Home Depot about it and he said the proper way to do it this is to Solder that ring to the lead. I did not realize you could solder lead like that
Next you take the upper portion of the sink and put your fixtures on and installthe tailpipe for the drain
This is the pop-up or some call it the tailpipe which sticks down and will connect to your drain. You'll notice the nut that's facing you which will be where the diverter handle is installed that raises and lowers the stopper
Yeah, I didn't know either. I'll have to figure that out now.
The Chrome ring that you see in the base of the sink prior to installing it you put a bead of plumbers caulk so as to seal the bowl
Yeah I know brass is no big deal but I would think the lead would melt before you could get it to take
Right. Ok I'll let you get back at it. Sorry 😆
Np buddy. If I can't play electrician hell I'll play plumber
Keep busy man
I'm trying. It's a little hit-and-miss this time of year for me. I got a couple of jobs coming up that'll take care of Christmas
Once the fixtures are assembled you sit the sink in place and mark the wall. This sink has two bolt holes underneath that use an expansion anchor to hold it to the wall.
Once it is squared up reach underneath and mark the wall. You move the sink out of the way and drill a hole large enough for the anchor to go through. This is a bit that is made to cut glass & tile. It is diamond-tipped. Here are the anchors installed in the sink ready to pop through the wall
At this point you slide the sink and pedestal back in place taking care to push the anchors through the tile into the wall. Because the bolt head is up under the sink and you cannot get a screwdriver to it I have installed a hex nut on the bolt. Once the toggle Wing expands and I screw the bolt down with my hand most of the way I can put a wrench on the hex nut and tighten the sink to the wall. Anytime you working with porcelain take care not to over tighten and to always tighten both sides evenly
Next you want to install a trap kit. It is a elbow, a trap piece which is u shaped and depending on the height of the drain protruding from the wall you may need a short piece of pipe to Extend high enough to reach the tailpipe
This coupling piece is accordion-style for making up two pipes which may not be Plumb. In this case I had to use it because I could not dictate the height or placement of the drain pipe which was existing
I could never be a plumber
They deserve every cent
Lastly you install your flexible lines from your valves to the fixture. Make sure not to over tighten these as they have a rubber insert and you will mash them and they could leak. In this picture you could also see a little more of the trap for the drain
I know it's almost as bad as being an electrician and you have to play in the shit. LOL
Right haha
Here's a picture of the sink and toilet installed.
Nice, is that a half bath?
In the next day or so I'm going to go over patching wall tile in a bathroom
No I'm standing in the shower. The half bath is the one with the damaged flange and I will be patching some tile in there as well
Oh word. Nice dude. I hate plumbing.
Me too but it pays. Gotta eat! Are you going to get on voice chat this Saturday if we can get everyone together and discuss the banners
Ty