Message from @smallyoda111

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2019-11-08 13:46:20 UTC  

Yes @rivenator12113, control variables. Always. I think, but don't quote me on it, that the air around you makes you about 200g lighter.

2019-11-08 13:47:07 UTC  

Even in a vacuum chamber gravity has the same effect I will just say because air has mass which is weight caused by gravity so therefor without gravity there would be no weight to air causing us all to suffocate and die

2019-11-08 13:47:30 UTC  

Air is given weight by gravity

2019-11-08 13:47:38 UTC  

We'd all die without air, yes

2019-11-08 13:47:57 UTC  

Because gravity is acting upon the mass of air

2019-11-08 13:48:06 UTC  

Yeah

2019-11-08 13:49:16 UTC  

That was my suggestion, controlled experiment but for some reason the air density variable is always ignored. You take the objects mass at the equator in a vacuum chamber and you compare it to other points on earth where you also put the object in a vacuum chamber, that would negate the air density variable and make it controlled thus you can prove gravity way easily.

2019-11-08 13:49:44 UTC  

All this stuff about Hitler thou man he was the leader of Germany and was also racist killed lots of Jews and gays and others but he also declared war to gain more industrial and military power not just for living space

2019-11-08 13:49:51 UTC  

Yeah, that's what we've done

2019-11-08 13:50:14 UTC  

That was a reaction to River, not you @smallyoda111

2019-11-08 13:50:27 UTC  

@rivenator12113 you are literally proving yourself wrong lol

2019-11-08 13:51:34 UTC  

@Jondar02 Any links? http://gnome-experiment.com/ This is what I got and from what I see it wasn't done in a vacuum chamber.

2019-11-08 13:52:32 UTC  

Wth your basing your argument off a gnome?

2019-11-08 13:53:50 UTC  

Searching for it rn

2019-11-08 13:54:25 UTC  

@smallyoda111 I never advocated for this experiment, I stated that it was flawed since it failed to recognize that air density affects weight and it's disinformation. @Jondar02 Thanks

2019-11-08 13:55:00 UTC  

I thought you meant that gravity is fake and it’s just air density

2019-11-08 13:55:08 UTC  

This isn't a matter of proving flat earth or not, it's about proving how you should have a controlled experiment.

2019-11-08 13:55:14 UTC  

When you want to prove something.

2019-11-08 13:56:22 UTC  

https://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F_Measuring_Gravity_With_Grace.html @rivenator12113, though it's from NASA and I can guess your stance on it. I do agree with the fact that that experiment is inaccurate due to possible uncontrolled variables

2019-11-08 13:56:36 UTC  

@rivenator12113 you are either confusing me with someone else or strawmaning me. I said you should test it if you don't believe the facts.

2019-11-08 13:59:14 UTC  

And yes gravity is different where you go but only in the very very very very low amounts for humans because our mass is so low but for a blue wale it may be different (were it on land) because the difference in the magnetic pull is not large enough to affect light weight mass for us to fell a considerable difference unless we teleported instantly to the two most different places of gravitational pull in the earth and even then it will be slight. Because for example when you rub two large magnets together can you fell a difference? That will not work but I’m just trying to say this this difference in gravity is not in any way significant

2019-11-08 14:01:24 UTC  

I have made a theoretical prediction of an object falling for 2 or 10 meters at a different height in a vacuum chamber, I would post it here but my roles don't allow it...

2019-11-08 14:01:42 UTC  

Different height, thus different gravitational pull

2019-11-08 16:54:27 UTC  

Hot

2019-11-09 00:35:25 UTC  

Jondar, that NASA website isn't trying to prove gravity exists

2019-11-09 02:18:52 UTC  

Thats because NASA thinks gravity works better on the flat earth model @Quorum

2019-11-09 02:20:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/642549161354330166/Screenshot_20190124-201910_Chrome.jpg

2019-11-09 02:23:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/642549832296169482/Screenshot_20190124-201820_Chrome.jpg

2019-11-09 03:08:01 UTC  

That article is explaining that the errors they found *compared to* the spherical model was small enough that they could approximate the earth is flat without too much of a problem

2019-11-09 03:08:15 UTC  

@smallyoda111 gravity is missing in different places on earth

2019-11-09 03:08:16 UTC  

were* small enough

2019-11-09 03:08:51 UTC  

@grvgrl yes they are saying the flat earth is justified

2019-11-09 03:09:56 UTC  

They’re saying they can use that approximation in their experiment. That’s kind of the thing physics does. It takes the simplest approximation it can for the problem it’s trying to solve. But that doesn’t mean the approximation is the reality

2019-11-09 03:11:32 UTC  

For example, if you’re trying to bake a cake, you can put in a rough cup of sugar and it doesn’t have to be to exact to get you a cake. If you’re doing a sensitive chemical reaction, you’d need to be more sure about how much you had

2019-11-09 03:12:20 UTC  

Cern omits gravity

2019-11-09 03:12:39 UTC  

Doesnt work for the standard model

2019-11-09 03:14:02 UTC  

https://home.cern/science/physics/standard-model

2019-11-09 03:14:36 UTC  

Actually research on the graviton is an active field. People don’t know if it’s massive or not or if it’s unnecessary given general relativity, but it’s not neglected

2019-11-09 03:18:15 UTC  

I’d be happy to answer any questions you had about gravity

2019-11-09 03:20:54 UTC  

What gravity?

2019-11-09 03:21:05 UTC  

What is gravity?