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coordinates of depicted place (P9149)
coordinates of depicted place (P9149) just got created. I'll switch my bots to start using this new property instead of coordinate location (P625). Can you do the same? Please be very careful that coordinate location (P625) and coordinates of depicted place (P9149) don't end up on the same file. That makes conversion a nightmare. As for the conversion. I did that before in a different context. I think I just got the json, replaced the property and wrote it back. Let's see if that works here too. Multichill (talk) 15:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Multichill: Thanks for the note. I have switched my bot to start using this new property of coordinate location (P625). If my bot is about to add the new coordinates of depicted place (P9149) based on information from the wikitext, it will check if it already has coordinate location (P625). In this case, it will first remove the coordinate location (P625) prior to adding the new property. Example [1]. There are three limitations to this
- The removal and addition are done in two separate edits. I have not found a way to update in one edit, as the updateclaim api throws an exception if I try to update the claim id to another property
- If the removal of the claim fails, the update will not be performed. In the rare case that removal succeeds and addition fails, the SDC would only be added back in the next run.
- My bot will not update coordinate location (P625) that cannot be cross-checked with wikitext.
- So I can make sure that coordinate location (P625) and coordinates of depicted place (P9149) don't end up on the same file, but I will not systematically clean up coordinate location (P625). Hope one of your bots can do this. Please let me know your thoughts. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- I see you're doing it in two edits. You should be able to do it in one, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=wbeditentity . I assume you already copy the statement to keep qualifiers etc. Clear edit is "api.php?action=wbeditentity&id=Q42&data={"claims":[{"id":"Q42$D8404CDA-25E4-4334-AF13-A3290BCD9C0F","remove":""},{"id":"Q42$GH678DSA-01PQ-28XC-HJ90-DDFD9990126X","remove":""}]}" and the create edit is "api.php?action=wbeditentity&id=Q42&data={"claims":[{"id":"Q42$GH678DSA-01PQ-28XC-HJ90-DDFD9990126X","mainsnak":{"snaktype":"value","property":"P56","datavalue":{"value":"ChangedString","type":"string"}},"type":"statement","rank":"normal"}]}". You can just put the two in the same edit. Multichill (talk) 22:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was not aware of the remove command in wbeditentity. With this I can combine them to one edit. I'll restart my bot once updated. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Saves another edit and keeps the qualifiers. Multichill (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! I was not aware of the remove command in wbeditentity. With this I can combine them to one edit. I'll restart my bot once updated. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- I see you're doing it in two edits. You should be able to do it in one, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=wbeditentity . I assume you already copy the statement to keep qualifiers etc. Clear edit is "api.php?action=wbeditentity&id=Q42&data={"claims":[{"id":"Q42$D8404CDA-25E4-4334-AF13-A3290BCD9C0F","remove":""},{"id":"Q42$GH678DSA-01PQ-28XC-HJ90-DDFD9990126X","remove":""}]}" and the create edit is "api.php?action=wbeditentity&id=Q42&data={"claims":[{"id":"Q42$GH678DSA-01PQ-28XC-HJ90-DDFD9990126X","mainsnak":{"snaktype":"value","property":"P56","datavalue":{"value":"ChangedString","type":"string"}},"type":"statement","rank":"normal"}]}". You can just put the two in the same edit. Multichill (talk) 22:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Schlurcher vs. SchlurcherBot
Sorry, but what was that? Just curious... 188.123.231.190 21:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- I had a major re-write of my bot's code yesterday and during this I noticed that it does not purge files correctly with kyrillic letters. This was the test that it now works as expected. Sorry about that. I'll add this to the edit summary next time. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:31, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Guidance to automate the Caption/structured data of commons file
Respected Sir, Hope you well. I am from Tamil wikimedia. When i see the changes, i would like to learn this auomation. I can manage python3. Guide me to learn. Give links to learn from scratch.--Info-farmer (talk) 03:25, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Tamil, as far as I know there is no framework that supports SDC edits. For this reason I use direct post requests to the API (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=wbeditentity) to make these changes. If need a code example, please send me a private e-mail and I send you details. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot question
Hello. SchlurcherBot has added structured data to countless files based on file information. However, many files have pre-existing bad information (e.g. files with date of upload in place of date of publication; a huge amount of undated Library of Congress images given arbitrary 1900 dates upon upload, etc.). Thus, when bad data is identified, it takes at least twice the effort to correct it. Errors in the file description are relatively simple to change. However, making subsequent changes to structured data is often an inconvenient and time-consuming hoop to jump through. My question is: does your bot periodically check for discrepancies between structured data and file description data (e.g. date, creator, license), and replace the structured data when the corresponding field changes? For example after I changed the date of this file from 28 July 2013 to 1902, will a bot eventually make a change in the structured inception value? --Animalparty (talk) 18:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- I often upload my pictures with rough categories and data, such as coordinates and heading in the appropriate templates, and refine them the next day or even later. If the data have already been copied to structured data, my correction generates a discrepancy. At first I would correct both copies, but that got to be a nuisance so nowadays I just leave the obsolete structured data. I imagine one day the distinction will be removed. When we enter the correction, that will end the job; no more separate record and no record of the bad location except of course in the file history. One fine day, by and by. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:21, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Animalparty and Jim.henderson: Hello. Currently the bot is only capable of adding structured data which does not exist already. The only exception are currently coordinates, where the bot is also able to update the coordinates if the heading quantifier is missing. So currently if you want outdated structured data to be fixed, it's better to delete the current ones. The long term goal (probably more in months that weeks) is to also update structured data based on updates in the file descriptions. If you could link some examples where you updated the descriptions, that would be great as it would give me a starting point once I have time to code this. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:14, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- The majority of my uploads have coordinates when uploaded, and almost all of those have small GPS errors, so I change them after upload. I shall start deleting the obsolete structured coords.
File:Cpt Dan's Nostrand Greene 2019 jeh.jpg
File:Tompkins park Marcy Av Bk 2019 jeh.jpg
File:Travis Triangle 35th Av Murray Hill Queens 2019 jeh.jpg
File:Schwartz troops & tourists jeh.jpg
Upload of ship photos
Hello Schlurcher, I saw that you changed or updated several of my input data in connection with ship photos. If there is anything which I should change during input in order to avoid extra work, please inform me (I am relatively new here).--Wolfgang Fricke (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Wolfgang Fricke: Hallo, wir können gerne deutsch reden. Vielen Dank für deine Uploads. Vermutlich hat mein Computerskript deine Bilder angepasst. Wenn du mir die Namen schickst, dann schaue ich mir das gerne an. Spontan ist mir nur eine Sache aufgefallen: bitte verwende bei Datumsangaben das ISO Format. Also z.B. 1980-04 für April 1980. Du müsstest dann auch sehen, dass das Datum in einer Sprache ausgeschrieben angezeigt wird, es wir dan quasi immer korrekt übersetzt. Grüße --Schlurcher (talk) 22:20, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hallo Schlurcher, vielen Dank für die Antwort. Ich wollte nur unnötige Arbeit vermeiden, aber wenn der Computer das macht... Das mit dem Datum merke ich mir.--Wolfgang Fricke (talk) 08:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Coords question
Hi, what is the difference between "coordinate location -- P625" and "coordinates of depicted place -- P9149"? Thanks. --A.Savin 12:48, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, the difference is only obvious for artworks. Let's take a painting of the eifel tower located in a London art gallery:
- coordinates of depicted place (P9149) - Coords somewhere near the Eifel tower
- coordinate location (P625) - Coords somewhere in London
- location of the point of view (P7108) - Coords where to photo of the painting was made
- For digital photographs we use:
- coordinates of depicted place (P9149) - Coords what is displayed in the photograph
- coordinate location (P625) - Not to be used. We are phasing this out.
- location of the point of view (P7108) - Coords of the camera location
- Hope this helps. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot change removed by anonymous user
I have seen this change. It is the only contribution of the user. Is this change correct? Wouter (talk) 14:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- The bot edit seems correct. So I reverted this change. The user might not be familiar with structured data. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Stop your bot
I blocked SchlurcherBot as a syadmin action because it's purging images way too fast without any regard for server load. Please stop it immediately. Legoktm (talk) 07:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- We ended up needing to block your bot's IP addresses at a higher level, please email nocwikimedia.org to get them unblocked. I think we will need to revisit the edit and purge rate of this bot, we are also looking into it server-side. Any Commons admin should feel free to unblock the bot once it's confirmed that the tasks are stopped. Legoktm (talk) 08:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Also noting that in purge requests please respect maxlag and always make your requests with maxlag=5. Amir (talk) 09:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- All operations stopped. I use checks for maxlag, and at the time I shut down the scripts they all triggered maxlag events. I'll check this further and will investigate my logs and provide further update. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Also noting that in purge requests please respect maxlag and always make your requests with maxlag=5. Amir (talk) 09:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Remove implausible coordinates
Schlurcher.
thanks for removing implausible coordinates with your bot, like for instance from this file. I wonder if you could also remove the Stuctured Data coordinates like this at the same time??
HenkvD (talk) 15:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, this is possible, but I'm currently not able to implement this. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Schlurcherbot
Hi, when your bot add "structured data based on file information" often put the files in "Category:Maps"; do you think is it possible to put the same files in "Category:Unidentified maps"? This will help the subsequent categorization of all of them. Thanks for your contributions. --Ciaurlec (talk) 14:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I would like your bot to help me
Hi, Schlurcher! I'm writing to you because I would like you to help me fix the links of a series of images that I have uploaded. Basically what I want is that in the parameter |source=
place the code [https://act.dtop.pr.gov/manual-de-senales-de-transito/ Manual de Rotulación para las Vías Públicas de Puerto Rico 2020]
in all the images named PR_urban_primary and PR_secondary, all in SVG format. This image can serve as an example of what I started to do. The categories where the images are found are Puerto Rico urban primary highway shields and Puerto Rico secondary highway shields. Greetings and thanks! Yarfpr (talk) 03:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Things like this can be done with Commons:VFC. Do you want to give it a try? --Schlurcher (talk) 15:49, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think so. It looks similar to the AutoWikiBrowser that another user recommended to me. Thanks! Yarfpr (talk) 18:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
HTTP vs. HTTPS in creator URLs
Hi! I just noticed that SchlurcherBot seems to use HTTP instead of HTTPS in the URL (P2699) qualifier of creator (P170) statements – for example, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister in Special:Diff/571577337. Is there a reason for this? I would assume that HTTPS is preferred – on Commons (unlike on Wikidata) it’s even used for RDF concept URIs (see T258590). Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 22:29, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Just to cross-link the discussion – I also just noticed that BotMultichillT uses HTTPS, but makes the User namespace lowercase, see User talk:Multichill#Lowercase user namespace in creator URLs. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 11:08, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Corrected. Thanks for letting me know. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! :) Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 12:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Corrected. Thanks for letting me know. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Just a note
Your bot saw that the ‘New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe’ logo came from Mario Wiki. Tried to find normal logo, without Mario, couldn’t. Sorry! SimpleWikiExpert (talk) 15:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Negated longitude on File:-2021-07-03 Shop to let, Burghley Centre, Bourne (1).jpg
I was looking at File:-2021-07-03 Shop to let, Burghley Centre, Bourne (1).jpg for other reasons and I noticed the rather large co-ordinate discrepancy warnings. As far as I can see, SchlurcherBot took {{Location dec|52.76890|-0.37722}}
and turned it into 52°46'8.04"N, 0°22'37.99"E, which looks to me like it's the wrong side of the Greenwich Meridian. I don't know if this is part of a pattern, but i thought you might like to know. --bjh21 (talk) 16:41, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Done --Schlurcher (talk) 17:05, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Inception date vs publication date
File:Brothers Dalziel-023.jpg, if it is ever determined when the sculpture was made, that would be the inception date. See File:Brothers Dalziel-029-1.jpg where the publication date is different from the inception date. Almost all of my uploads are publications. Inception date has little meaning for most of them, and a different meaning (which is nice to have) for some of them. Putting an Inception date on where there already is publication date makes me wonder what the bot is really doing and why. Please use publication date or nothing at all.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Do you mind then, if I remove it? It is meaningless except in redundancy. I was surprised at all the files that your bot has not touched. Can I know what determines which files your bot touches?
- @Schlurcher: So, three questions then. Can your bot learn to not add inception date when a publication date exists already? is one. Do you mind if I remove it when the meaningless redundancy occurs? is a second question. The third question is How does your bot choose its targets and why? which might be two questions depending upon your answer.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 00:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, I did not see your question yesterday, apologies. So let me explain: The bot matches the date field in {{Information}} template to inception (P571) (see Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Date). So removing the structured data will only result in it getting added some point again. In case of a digital representation there are sometimes discussions if this is the most appropriate way. For these types of uploads the {{Information}} template seems not the correct one. You would be better off to use a specialized template like {{Book}}. If you switch out the template, then the wiki-text will also show publication date, so this is also the preferred option for this. My bot will then ignore these dates for now (I have on my backlog to import these book template dates as publication dates, but I'm not there yet). I would prefer this. Second in line would be for me to have this data as both the inception date and the publication date. My argument here is that every media in Commons should have an inception date and that this parameter will be used in queries to the database etc. If you disagree to all this, my bot can learn to not add a date if a publication date already exists. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:02, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for responding. I apologize for feeling neglected/affronted. If there is any voting on the "Inception date" rule, I would vote for a list of acceptable dates as the book/other publication copyright people/software will be using publication date. Inception date is a great thing for items that don't have a predefined date. Like I said, that is my vote and I have an example of a picture of an artwork from a publication where both dates are used in a meaningful way, and some of my graphs from the latest book have days the data was taken on, using inception date and a publication date for the book.
- Hi, I did not see your question yesterday, apologies. So let me explain: The bot matches the date field in {{Information}} template to inception (P571) (see Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Date). So removing the structured data will only result in it getting added some point again. In case of a digital representation there are sometimes discussions if this is the most appropriate way. For these types of uploads the {{Information}} template seems not the correct one. You would be better off to use a specialized template like {{Book}}. If you switch out the template, then the wiki-text will also show publication date, so this is also the preferred option for this. My bot will then ignore these dates for now (I have on my backlog to import these book template dates as publication dates, but I'm not there yet). I would prefer this. Second in line would be for me to have this data as both the inception date and the publication date. My argument here is that every media in Commons should have an inception date and that this parameter will be used in queries to the database etc. If you disagree to all this, my bot can learn to not add a date if a publication date already exists. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:02, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Book template is a very easy out for me and a really good suggestion. It will pull in everything except source and copyright (and subtitle) from wikidata. Very good suggestion, which I thank you for.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. Most of the discussion in happening in the discussion section of the modeling pages: Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Date. Please note that some of these date issues only surfaced with structured data. We seem to have accepted some ambiguity before. --Schlurcher (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Book template is a very easy out for me and a really good suggestion. It will pull in everything except source and copyright (and subtitle) from wikidata. Very good suggestion, which I thank you for.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Schlurcher: Book template! The bot has now has claimed that an image of wind currents is a digital representation of the book!! Can the bot restrict itself to P6243-ing only files with djvu or pdf extensions? Or is it based on that P6243 category. Maybe book template isn't going to work? It was nice tho', Image page is pointing at the page the image came from....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Could you please link the image you are referring to? I'm happy to have a look. The P6243 is derived from the wikidata parameter. --Schlurcher (talk) 09:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Schlurcher: Book template! The bot has now has claimed that an image of wind currents is a digital representation of the book!! Can the bot restrict itself to P6243-ing only files with djvu or pdf extensions? Or is it based on that P6243 category. Maybe book template isn't going to work? It was nice tho', Image page is pointing at the page the image came from....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 20:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- File:Handbook of Meteorology-111.jpg. Thanks for looking. That is just one of several which are using the book template and are now P6246ed.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that's a though one. The bot simply uses the wikidata parameter. Restricting to djvu or pdf is not really a solution, as a lot of books get uploaded page by page and not necessary in a combined way. Do you have any other ideas? --Schlurcher (talk) 08:09, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- File:Handbook of Meteorology-111.jpg. Thanks for looking. That is just one of several which are using the book template and are now P6246ed.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Excluding image formats. I don't know the reason djvu is listed here (at Search) as an image format. Exclude anything that doesn't have multiple pages. There are enough machine readable differences between an image and a document. I don't think it should be so tough to do.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that does not really work. Historically most books were uploaded page by page not as multiple page documents. But until this is resolved, I will restrict P6243 to pdf and djvu file formats. I'll likely get a chance to update this at the weekend and let you know once completed, then the bot will not add this again. --Schlurcher (talk) 09:41, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done --Schlurcher (talk) 09:13, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! It is too early in my day for good articulation, but something about solutions that improve everything.…--RaboKarbakian (talk) 13:14, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, the bot is still at it. The bot changed your edits also. This is the file I noticed it on File:Worst Journey in the World-1-065.jpg. Sorry to be here again!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 18:06, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done Sorry to have bothered you again. This should now be solved for all. Good news is that this can only have effected new files. I inspected all your recent uploads and have fixed accordingly. Should not happen again. --Schlurcher (talk) 05:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, the bot is still at it. The bot changed your edits also. This is the file I noticed it on File:Worst Journey in the World-1-065.jpg. Sorry to be here again!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 18:06, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! It is too early in my day for good articulation, but something about solutions that improve everything.…--RaboKarbakian (talk) 13:14, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done --Schlurcher (talk) 09:13, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that does not really work. Historically most books were uploaded page by page not as multiple page documents. But until this is resolved, I will restrict P6243 to pdf and djvu file formats. I'll likely get a chance to update this at the weekend and let you know once completed, then the bot will not add this again. --Schlurcher (talk) 09:41, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- Excluding image formats. I don't know the reason djvu is listed here (at Search) as an image format. Exclude anything that doesn't have multiple pages. There are enough machine readable differences between an image and a document. I don't think it should be so tough to do.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Cyril O. Spann Medical Office historical marker image
Cyril O. Spann Medical Office historical marker.jpg
This image is a work by me and is NOT a violation. I have sent an email to permissions with an explanation in order to quickly clear this up.
Please remove it from deletion and speedy deletion. Thanks! ProfessorKaiFlai (talk) 17:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Please raise your concern on the image page itself. Also not that the nomination was not performed by me. --Schlurcher (talk) 11:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
Reihenfolge Annotationen / Kategorien
Hallo! Dein Bot stellt nach der Erstellung von Annotationen die Reihenfolge so um, dass die Kategorien an den Schluss wandern, was ich ja durchaus befürworte. Weiß nicht, ob ich Dir oder Deinem Bot Arbeit erspare, indem ich die Annotationen zweckmäßiger herstelle, sodass sie gleich oberhalb der Kategorien eingefügt werden? Oder ist das ein "bug" von Wikimedia Commons, dass die Annotationen am Ende eingefügt werden? --Kuhni74 (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hallo, als Nutzer der Applikation hast du darauf nur wenig Einfluss. Als Entwickler ist vielmehr sehr viel einfacher Text am Ende anzufügen als an einer fest definierten Stelle in der Mitte, deshalb wird das so gemacht. Anderseits gibt es auch wieder Tools die die Kategorien am Ende erwarten. Deshalb gibt es dieses Schlamassel und mein Bot versucht dem etwas entgegenzuwirken. --Schlurcher (talk) 11:11, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, also ich werke weiter wie bisher, richtig? --Kuhni74 (talk) 05:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ja, bitte. Viele Tools hier sind nur "Fit-For-Purpose" und nicht unbedingt komplett optimiert. Solange alle Beiträge in ihrer Art zum großen Ganzen beitragen sollte das niemanden davon abhalten diese zu nutzen. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:28, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, also ich werke weiter wie bisher, richtig? --Kuhni74 (talk) 05:42, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Something strange
Good time of day. I published two files: this. and this. and installed a licence from Russian Wikipedia: Commons:Несвободный файл/ОДИ, which is meaning that these files need like illustrations in the statements. Up to this point, everything was fine but your bot made something strange edit and the status for this files is broken now. In any attempt to fix it and back to normal version, the tablet about «deletion» appears again and again. What do I need to make for files’es safety? Sorry for my level of English and thank you in advance. KAA-Kir (talk) 13:11, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Structured data edited by your bot
Your bot is adding information like this.
- It adds an incorrect creator with Wikimedia username so I have to correct it. This is due to that I have stated
|author=[[User:Goran tek-en|Goran_tek-en]], requested by and knowledge from {{U|x}}
in the information Template so the bot takes the last username and add it as creator, this is what I'm correcting now. Also I have now changed the way how I staterequested by and knowledge from {{U|x}}
to avoid this problem further on. - In the middle of this post Sdkb is explaining that wikidata property link P4174 is for people, not for images; the image itself doesn't have a username as he explained.
- I don't have the knowledge to know what is correct or not regarding this, I just want the information to be correct for the images and it's hard work to correct them manually. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:15, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for reaching out. Regarding: 1) I'm using the same derivation that are also used to display the authors when you look up your pictures in the media search. So your solution will not only work for my bot, but also help correct display with the media search. 2) We are using P4174 as a qualifier for the author, which is a property of the image. It's used for a person (the author). 3) Currently the image you posted looks good. Please check Commons:Structured_data/Modeling for details. I'm sorry you had to do some manual work. Please let me know how I can help or improve my bot. --Schlurcher (talk) 11:45, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Please always ping me, thanks.
- Now I found what I did differently, your bot is using "some value". When I do that I get the same result without "?" or "!". At this time I don't know what "some value" does or mean, will try to read about this.
- 3) If you look at this edit, the bot has added "Property / creator: some value / qualifier author name string: X" which Sdkb means is wrong and is only for people as 2). I have tried to read about this but to be honest I can't really see how it all is working.
- - So should "Property / creator: some value / qualifier author name string: X" be added to images/illustrations/maps etc, Sdkb means not? --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Goran tek-en: Yes, "Property / creator: some value / qualifier author name string: X" should be added if the author does not have a separate Wikidata entry (this is true for most individual contributers to Commons). If the author has a Wikidata entry it should be "Property / creator: Q..." (example: File:ISS057-E-28435 - View of Earth.jpg which directly links to NASA). In the first case, the property P4174 is applied as a qualifier to the author. The author is "some value". This placeholder indicates that there is an author, but the author does not have a Wikidata entry (further details Commons:Structured_data/Modeling/Author). As explained before, the property P4174 is not applied to the image. From my point of view there is no conflict with the statements made by Sdkb. --Schlurcher (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
File:Gasparo Martellini - Portrait of Maria Caroline Augusta of Habsburg-Lorraine, Princess of Tuscany (?).png.webp
Hello!, I'm MariaAmaliaduchessadiParma, but if you want you can simply call me Maria Amalia, good morning. I noticed that you are very familiar with Wikimedia Commons and I wanted to ask you, only if possible, if you could rename the file: Gasparo Martellini - Portrait of Maria Caroline Augusta of Habsburg-Lorraine, Princess of Tuscany (?).png.webp. The last part, where I inserted .webp, is a mistake and I would like it to be deleted. Thus the file became: Gasparo Martellini - Portrait of Maria Caroline Augusta of Habsburg-Lorraine, Princess of Tuscany (?).png, thank you very much in advance.
Best regards.
~MariaAmaliaduchessadiParma (Talk) 10:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC).
- Hi, Maria Amalia! I've tried, but for some unknown reasons it would not let me update to the correct file. I've asked for further help. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:04, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, I've learned that it is indeed a .webp file so it's not possible to rename to .png --Schlurcher (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
--Thank you so much for renaming the File, I'm grateful. Would it be okay then for me to upload the same file but in another way but renaming it to ".jpg" or "png"?.
Thanks in advance.
Have a nice day. ~MariaAmaliaduchessadiParma (Talk) 09:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC).
- Hi, it would be ok to upload a converted file with another file extension, but please note two things 1) but there is no actual need for this. The file is fine as it currently is. 2) note that the file type might be different from the extension you give to the file. Especially if you use a windows operating system, it is not easy to identify the actual file type. As I now understood, the upload tool will always assign the actual file type to your file not how you name the file. In summary, I think there is no need to do anything. The file seems perfectly fine as it currently is. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:50, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
---Thank you very much! I thought that ".webp" was not good, I saw that files can be uploaded with ".jpg", or with ".png", or with many other ways. But I hadn't seen that it was fine even with ".webp", thank you very much for everything. I'll see in the future whether to upload a second version. Thank you for everything.
~MariaAmaliaduchessadiParma (Talk) 23:32, 8 August 2021 (UTC).
Tiny Playground
Helloǃ I found my file "Tiny playground" cancelled by you. Would you kindly tell me the reason why you did this? I do not think to have violated any personal rights. The picture was taken at a public event 50 years ago and the persons are not identfiable. I understand it does not show a "playground" according the literal meaning, as it is explained in the desciption of the file. It was meant as a play with the words playground and playboard. I would appriciate an answer. Best regards Hartmut SchmidtFoeniz (talk) 06:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, the file seems to be back again. Thank you and best regards Foeniz (talk) 09:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hallo! Ich bin kein Administrator und deshalb technisch überhaupt nicht in der Lage Bilder zu löschen. Am besten findest du deine Beträge über den Knopf "Beiträge" oben links. Viele Grüße --Schlurcher (talk) 07:16, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
File item replacement
Hello! Could you please help me in replacing an item for a file? I mean an image I uploaded recently. I want to replace it. Haoreima (talk) 14:53, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Please have a look at Commons:Overwriting existing files. Note that I do not have special permissions. So anything you cannot do, I cannot do as well. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- And another question, can I write description in any language I know in any file uploaded either by me or by other users here in Commons? Haoreima (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes! You are encouraged to contribute descriptions to any file on Commons. Please use the appropriate langugage tags like Deutsch: This tag for German--Schlurcher (talk) 14:49, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes! You are encouraged to contribute descriptions to any file on Commons. Please use the appropriate langugage tags like
- And another question, can I write description in any language I know in any file uploaded either by me or by other users here in Commons? Haoreima (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Schlurcherbot
I put a comment in the bots discussion page. Couldyou look into it?Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot
Hallo Schlurcher, Dein Bot hat anscheinend Probleme mit der Ost-West-Unterscheidung, wenn die vollen Grad Null sind; siehe z.B. File:Sandridge flower festival 045 Feeding of the Five Thousand (10510674505).jpg und 12 weitere Fotos aus der Serie. Bei File:Sir James M. Barrie 1860-1937 novelist and dramatist lived here (48395015921).jpg habe ich den Fehler bereits korrigiert. M.f.G. Telford (talk) 06:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, let me look into this. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:18, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done --Schlurcher (talk) 13:36, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
2 queries
(1) Sometimes when your bot do edits on the files I uploaded, some are left unedited! After your bot's edit, two hidden categories gets gone, right! So, that's why I am asking you if your bot missed some files, can I directly inform you those particularly?
- Hi, the bot uses different sources for it's edits. One is new uploads, but the bot cannot keep up with new uploads. New uploads are generally looked at 2 hours after upload. However, if too many files are being uploaded at the same time, it will not process all. They are still being expected to be process at some point in time later. Feel free to send me a list of all files my bot should look at and I will do so. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
(2) Another query, can you tell me how to translate the main page and other important pages of Commons into Manipuri language (aka. Meitei language) (it has its own mni wikipedia and mni wiktionary). What steps or permissions do I need to do that? Haoreima (talk) 12:05, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I do not know this. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot: Nicht existierende Kategorien
Hallo Schlurcher, ich habe den Eindruck, dass der Bot systematisch nicht existierende und unnötige Kategorien einbindet. Gestern habe ich mehrere Fotos für WLM hochgeladen. Im Hochladeformular (für das Saarland) gibt es ein Feld, in das man den Namen der Stadt eintragen soll, in der das Foto aufgenommen wurde und zwar in der exakten Schreibweise, wie sie in der Category:Municipalities in Saarland erscheint. Daraus generiert der Bot offenbar beim entsprechenden Foto die Zuordnung zu einer Kategorie Cultural heritage monuments in <Name>. Bei Homburg geht das leider schief, da die Stadt in der Kategorie Municipalities als Homburg, Saarland eingetragen ist, die Denkmalkategorie jedoch Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Homburg (Saar) ist. Der Bot kategorisiert die Bilder konsequenterweise falsch mit Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Homburg, Saarland. Beispiel dafür: File:Homburg Jägerhausstraße 73 NW.jpg.
Die Ursache ist wohl eine inkonsistente Benennung von Kategorien, aber diese ist wohl nicht immer auszuschließen. Als Lösungsansatz könnte ich mir vorstellen, dass der Bot eine zusätzlich Prüfung durchführen könnte: Wenn er in der Category:Municipalities in Saarland den Eintrag der entsprechenden Stadt findet, könnte er dem Link folgen und prüfen, ob es dort eine Kategorie gibt, die mit Cultural heritage monuments in beginnt. Wenn ja, sollte er diese für die weitere Arbeit nutzen und den Namen der Kategorie nicht selbst generieren. Viele Grüße, --TeKaBe (talk) 06:05, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hallo, mein Bot fügt keine Kategorieen ein. Er sortiert lediglich alle im Text enthaltenen Kategorien ans Ende. Der ursprüngliche Upload (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Homburg_J%C3%A4gerhausstra%C3%9Fe_73_NW.jpg&oldid=588633226) hat bereits die monierte Kategorie enthalten. Diese war allerdings in der Dateibeschreibung versteckt. Insofern hat mein Bot geholfen diese leichter sichtbar zu machen (da die Kategorien nun am Ende sind) sie jedoch nicht eingefügt. Ich hoffe das war hilfreich. Grüße --Schlurcher (talk) 09:19, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Danke für den Hinweis. Es tut mir Leid, dass ich den Bot beschuldigt habe, aber ich habe die falsche Kategorie in der Original-Version des Bildes tatsächlich übersehen. Dann liegt das Problem wohl beim Hochlade-Assistenten. Danke und Grüße, --TeKaBe (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the bot's internationalization task
This is something I have been wondering about, but I am not sure that this kind of change is really "internationalization". Commons:Bots/Requests/SchlurcherBot does not mention date format changes and if memory serves, the number-number format isn't really the most common one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for reaching out. If you change the display language you will see that after the change from the bot the month is properly displayed in the corresponding language. Thus, I consider this "internationalization". --Schlurcher (talk) 12:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Curious about your bot's selection criteria
Hi there,
I am very curious about your bot, which provides a useful service to everyone who uploads files by adding author info and "inception" date. This has allowed me to see that if the bot were consistent in adding this to my photos when I upload them, I would be able to do lots of very interesting things! Unfortunately, for some reason it is very selective in the files that it works on. This afternoon I uploaded seven files: ( 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 ). Your bot only added data to one of the seven (the third file). Any idea why it is so selective? Is it possible for users to aim the bot at their own uploads?
I've waited until I had a fairly clear cut case to offer you to look at it... as it happens it's a series of fun gargoyles! Thank you very much for any light you can shed on this.
I've seen that AC/DC exists for adding my username in structured data, but I don't see how I could use it to find the inception date where the files were not all created on the same day... ps: I'll hold off fixing this batch. SashiRolls (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for your interest. The bot mainly processes the SDC maintenance categories given on the Bot's user page. This is what runs on my local hardware. In addition, I run a free Microsoft Azure account that runs an additional worker on new files. But there are more new files than it can process, so it selectively picks out of the stream of new files. That one processed your file 3. The other files should be picked up eventually through the maintenance categories. If you like, I can process all your uploads in one go. Just let me know. Schlurcher (talk) 21:36, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wow! That's a really kind offer. When I first joined commons, I was a bit perturbed to see all the technical info being added, but more recently I got to playing with SPARQL and see how it's just tremendously useful (it avoids needing to create a category for all one's uploads in order to search within them). Between your bot and BotMultichillT about half of my uploads have been treated, but I do need to find a solution for the other hundred. There are just so many gadgets! :) If you want to send your bot on a mission, I'd certainly be grateful! There's no shortage of SDC maintenance categories sitting around because I haven't figured out how to keep my photos out of the queues yet by uploading properly. Maybe I could set things up in digiKam, but I'm not sure how digiKam interacts with Wikidata's Ps and Qs. :) SashiRolls (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Should be done now. Yes, currently this is mainly a bot effort and there is no efficient way to do this manually. You can ping me if I should prioritize your uploads again. As you started looking into queries, here are my two favourate ones:
- Best regards, --Schlurcher (talk) 08:55, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I'll have a look to see how that affects the photo-by-year queries on my UP once the info has propagated! This was a huge help... I'm looking forward to trying some more specific queries! SashiRolls (talk) 12:38, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wow! That's a really kind offer. When I first joined commons, I was a bit perturbed to see all the technical info being added, but more recently I got to playing with SPARQL and see how it's just tremendously useful (it avoids needing to create a category for all one's uploads in order to search within them). Between your bot and BotMultichillT about half of my uploads have been treated, but I do need to find a solution for the other hundred. There are just so many gadgets! :) If you want to send your bot on a mission, I'd certainly be grateful! There's no shortage of SDC maintenance categories sitting around because I haven't figured out how to keep my photos out of the queues yet by uploading properly. Maybe I could set things up in digiKam, but I'm not sure how digiKam interacts with Wikidata's Ps and Qs. :) SashiRolls (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Technical Barnstar | |
For your amazing work in the field of Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons (SDC), which is the future of this website. I always see your bot flooding my e-mails with edits and I don't think that anyone has done more for implementing basic Structured Data than you. You are basically "the unsung hero of SDC". Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 18:42, 5 October 2021 (UTC) |
A request
Hello Schlurcher! I need a help from you. Could you kindly make a new file by cropping from these, especially the dragon portion only? Similar images frequently appear in internet too. Besides, if possible, we can still use a sharpener to clarify the cropped image! I am just personally confused to carry on the task myself because it has excessive documentation which I am not handy about. If possible, please create a new cropped file for the "dragon". c:File:The Additional Secretary, Ministry of Culture, Shri K.K. Mittal addressing at the inauguration of the 'Poubi Lai-The Story of a Giant Python', Single object exhibition mounted by the Indira Gandhi Manav Sanghralaya (IGRMS).jpg And, in the internet, the dragon is appeared as simple:Poubi Lai. Thanks:) Haoreima (talk) 00:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot's duplicate transclusion removal task
Hi. I'm a little confused about this edit – it seems to have been made outside of the pages that the task is supposed to be run on, and, regardless, the duplicated transclusion was almost certainly intentional.
If it is intentional that the task runs on such pages, perhaps it should be modified to only remove duplicate transclusions of templates on a whitelist.
Thank you. LauritzT (talk) 09:20, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comment. This is the first time I became aware of a false positive for this action. So for now, I will blacklist this page.--Schlurcher (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
a barnstar for you! :Schlurcher
The Technical Barnstar | |
For your amazing work...16th of October 2021 (UTC) |
taking a look at the wikidata. in some galapagos photos Changed an entity: automatically adding structured data claims based on file information: date source creator copyright license undo
- Thanks. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Dod street print
Hello. I am sorry if this is the incorrect place to query. What do the numbers that are referenced on the print relate to? I am specifically interested to know if number 2 is the Silver tavern. Thank you. Naticles (talk) 11:28, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Rename file
Hi Schlurcher,
Can you rename the file?
Thanks! --Tania Cantone (talk) 14:13, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
Lee Slattery
Hi, I am Lee Slattery. Can you either delete or replace the picture of me from 11 years ago? thank you for your help. 90.196.82.208 14:00, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
- No, I can't. Please see: Commons:Deletion requests --Schlurcher (talk) 16:08, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Reisebericht
Hallo, ich suche einen Reisebericht über Südamerika aus dem Hamburger Tageblatt von 1931. Kann man davon noch in irgendeinem Archiv Ausgaben finden? Danke. MalouWilly
- Da kann ich leider nicht weiterhelfen. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Adding structured data on historical images
Hi, I've noticed that your bot adds structured data like shutter speed, aperture etc to images based on what's provided in the images exif data. Example. I think I've also seen it add capture date from exifdata. For historical images like this one, this is arguably not correct. Would there be any way for your bot to detect that an image is a historical image and instead add this type of data to some sort of "digitised" property instead of as a property of the image itself? TommyG (talk) 09:23, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the comment. I'm already using logic to sort out scans of historical images. In this case this seems to be a camera-snapshot of an historic image. In this case the destinction is arguably more difficult. Do you have any suggestions, how I could handle these cases? --Schlurcher (talk) 09:58, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with @TommyG here: there are a number of problematic additions we've seen being added to GLAM uploads where things are being designated P31 -> photograph. Some examples include: File:Torquato Tasso legge il suo poema alla Corte Estense Francesco Podesti Brescia.jpg (painting) and File:Virgin Mary with Christ in a Manger MET SF64 164 362.jpg (paper sculpture). Wondering if you could immediately dial back the addition of P31->photograph to these types of files and be much more conservative about this and discuss best options. Otherwise we have a lot of cleanup to do. I didn't see the P31 logic described in any bot request or documented anywhere, so this would be a good time to do so. @Jane023 @Multichill - Fuzheado (talk) 12:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I really don't think a bot should be adding P31 to SDC, period. Definitely not for museum objects, which theoretically should always have Wikidata items under the theory "if it's notable enough to be kept in a Wikidata-indexed museum collection, it's notable enough for an item". Jane023 (talk) 13:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- An alternative to using P31 with photograph could be to use media type (P1163) with 'image/jpeg', or whatever the file type is. See File:Amanda_at_Vanity_Ball.jpg for an example. Husky (talk to me) 13:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments. I honestly disagree that the given examples are not photographs, as they are not full 2D reproductions. Regardeless, I'll stop adding P31 to any files that use an {{Artwork}}, {{Painting}}, {{Book}}, etc. Please let me know of further issues. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- An alternative to using P31 with photograph could be to use media type (P1163) with 'image/jpeg', or whatever the file type is. See File:Amanda_at_Vanity_Ball.jpg for an example. Husky (talk to me) 13:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I really don't think a bot should be adding P31 to SDC, period. Definitely not for museum objects, which theoretically should always have Wikidata items under the theory "if it's notable enough to be kept in a Wikidata-indexed museum collection, it's notable enough for an item". Jane023 (talk) 13:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with @TommyG here: there are a number of problematic additions we've seen being added to GLAM uploads where things are being designated P31 -> photograph. Some examples include: File:Torquato Tasso legge il suo poema alla Corte Estense Francesco Podesti Brescia.jpg (painting) and File:Virgin Mary with Christ in a Manger MET SF64 164 362.jpg (paper sculpture). Wondering if you could immediately dial back the addition of P31->photograph to these types of files and be much more conservative about this and discuss best options. Otherwise we have a lot of cleanup to do. I didn't see the P31 logic described in any bot request or documented anywhere, so this would be a good time to do so. @Jane023 @Multichill - Fuzheado (talk) 12:45, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Hello
Can you explain your services?
Crystal - Authenticblkwidow 2601:486:281:A20:0:0:0:1E91 04:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- No service, only volunteer work. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:54, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Inception was not today
Hello, your bot sometimes incorrectly adds today's date as date of inception, for example here. Could you take a look at that? --Strepulah (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Stopped until I can resolve the issue. Schlurcher (talk) 22:55, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I just noticed you are already on it. Thanks. --Strepulah (talk) 22:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
DDG-5252..LCS1...
Hello Ensign.; I wish to Foward ""Gary^^ my Reguards... DDG-52..Electrician... He'll know... To you ( & your s.)..Sir.. Merry Christmas... From the Gulf...( maybe..not..) Alan...Goff...(Ret.) 50.86.52.98 02:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
Structured data
I don't understand tho goal of action of your bot, but when it applies to my files (Coa fam ITA xxx.jpg) inserts word fotografo. My files aren't fotos but drawings obtained by a heraldic drawing software (LEDA - Les escus des armes). Bye --Massimop (talk) 11:37, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Bot adding incorrect digital representation of (P6243) statements
Hi Schlurcher, this addition is not correct. I'm currently in the process of cleaning up and overhauling the property to prevent it from getting messy again. Can you not add digital representation of (P6243) for a while? I expect to have a tracker category in the future for the 2D works which should have the digital representation of (P6243) statement. Multichill (talk) 21:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand your concerns. Should digital representation of (P6243) only be used for 2D works? Could you help fill Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Digital representation of so we can develop a joint understanding? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Could you also look at Category:Paintings with structured data missing P6243 property, there seems to be a lot of files that do not have a corresponding wikidata entry. The category is currently not behaving as it should? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm cleaning up the mess and this is not helping. Can you please disable that part? Otherwise we'll have two bots in an endless loop.......
- Yes, only 2D works (the original scope). Documentation will be at Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Depiction, see also the talk page.
- I'm also fixing tracking categories like Category:Paintings with structured data missing P6243 property. Multichill (talk) 18:50, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, I've stopped adding P6243 for now. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I created Category:Artworks missing digital representation of for 2D work and Category:Artworks missing main subject for 3D work. We can use these in the future to add the missing data. I'll let you know when these are ready for the bots. Multichill (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Are you testing new code? I noticed this edit. Multichill (talk) 10:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I created Category:Artworks missing digital representation of for 2D work and Category:Artworks missing main subject for 3D work. We can use these in the future to add the missing data. I'll let you know when these are ready for the bots. Multichill (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, I've stopped adding P6243 for now. --Schlurcher (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Could you also look at Category:Paintings with structured data missing P6243 property, there seems to be a lot of files that do not have a corresponding wikidata entry. The category is currently not behaving as it should? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Danke
Danke für Deine unermüdliche Bot-Arbeit Schlurcher ! Grüße --Olga Ernst (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
New task for you bot
Hello!
{{Convert to SVG}} already includes {{BadJPEG}} for JPEGs so it is unncecessary to have both templates at a file page. It'd therefore be good if a bot could remove {{BadJPEG}} from all files that already have both templates. This should work as search query. As always when removing templates or categories I think that if the template is the only thing written on that line that the entire line should be removed. I have made a try at user:Jonteemil/JWB-settings.json with anchors if the page starts or ends with the template and it seems to work. It also excludes nowiki tags which is good because it might have had the template in the ”Original upload log” but not now. In the beginning about 900 files would be edited but when all they are done I think it'll only be few edits a month.Jonteemil (talk) 00:34, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will add this, but please allow some time for the implementation. Schlurcher (talk) 21:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- That sounds good. No hurry, take you time.Jonteemil (talk) 05:28, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Bad bot edits
Hi, Your bot seems to routinely add artists as main subject (P921) like in this edit it seems to often happen when wikicode has something like |artist = {{Creator
| Wikidata = Q510315
| Option = {{{1|}}} <!-- Do not modify -->
}}
in it.--Jarekt (talk) 03:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks that should be fixed now. There was a misbehaving due to the tripple brackets, and then the Wikidata property was not assigned correctly. Should not happen any more. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Bot fight
@Schlurcher and Multichill: your bots are competing to add data, for example https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:2020_%E5%BB%A3%E5%B7%9E%E9%80%A2%E6%BA%90%E5%9D%8A.jpg&action=history . could you plz maybe arrange something so they dont do redundant work? :D -- RZuo (talk) 08:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @RZuo: As far as I understand both our bots do not add information after the other bot has added them. As you can tell from the file version history, both bots edited this file at the same time. Unfortunately, the structured data does not lead to a version conflict in these cases, but to a duplication of the entries. These occasions are however extremely rare. I always wanted to add logic to my bot to remove duplicate entries if it sees them, and I guess now is a good time to do this. However, this will only solve the problem after it occurred. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot bei radiologischen Bildern
Hallo Schlurcher! Ich lade regelmäßig radiologische Bilder bei Commons hoch, die dann vom SchlurcherBot mit strukturierten Daten ergänzt werden. Erstmal Danke dafür! (Hab die API nicht so im Griff, dass ich das ohne großen Aufwand selbst machen könnte, auch wenn ich per API hochlade.) Mir ist nur aufgefallen, dass in dem Eintrag "Urheber" manchmal "Objekt fungiert als" mit dem Wert "Fotograf" steht. Manchmal fehlt "Objekt fungiert als". Ich habe mir gedacht, dass es schöner wäre, wenn da nicht "Fotograf" sondern "Radiologe" stehen würde. Machbar? Aufwand gerechtfertigt? Oder was denkst Du darüber? Allerdings lade ich gelegentlich auch "echte" Fotos hoch... Beste Grüße --Hellerhoff (talk) 16:18, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Hellerhoff: Danke für deine Anfrage. Der Bot versucht momentan anhand der Exif Informationen zu erraten, ob es sich um ein Foto handelt. Beispielsweise über den ISO-Wert. Deshalb wird der Fotograf manchmal gesetzt und manchmal nicht. Der Bot arbeitet generell defensiv. Im Zweifel macht er also lieber nichts. Wenn du mir helfen könntest die radiologischen Bilder zuverlässig zu identifizieren, so kann ich mich gerne an einer Anpassung versuchen. --Schlurcher (talk) 10:19, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. Ich denke mal drüber nach. Ich würde irgendein Erkennungs-Flag einbauen (eine spezielle Kategorie?). Wird aber dann vermutlich nur für die Bilder, die ich neu hochlade verwendet. Wenn eine Kategorie eine Option wäre, könnte ich nachträglich natürlich mit cat-a-lot was machen. Danke erstmal! Ich melde mich gegebenenfalls. Grüße! Hellerhoff (talk) 11:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Eine persönliche Tracking-Kategorie würde funktionieren. Die sind auf Commons auch erlaubt, solange man Sie als versteckte Kategorie deklariert. So etwas in der Art: Category:Radiological images from Hellerhoff. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. Habe jetzt eine Kategorie Category:Radiological images by Hellerhoff erstellt und werde die verwenden. Danke! Grüße!--Hellerhoff (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alles klar. Ich braue vermutlich noch etwas um meinen Bot umzustellen. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:59, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Vielen Dank!--Hellerhoff (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ich hab jetzt einmal einen Edit gemacht: File:01-Sigmadivertikulitis CT ax 001 Perforation - Annotation.png. Bedingung für die Einteiung als Radiologe wäre, dass es in beiden Kategorieen ist: Category:Radiological images by Hellerhoff und Category:Self-published work (zweitere kommt automatisch über {{Own}}). Wenn das so passt, dann würde ich mich danach um die Anpassung kümmern. Dauert aber vermutlich wieder ein paar Tage, da ich jetzt erst einmal unterwegs bin. --Schlurcher (talk) 10:51, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Das ist prima. Ich schiebe fleißig meine Bilder in die Kategorie Category:Radiological images by Hellerhoff, wobei ich eben nur die tatsächlich von mir erstellten reintue. Manches radiologische Bild von anderen habe ich nur nachbearbeitet (Crop etc.). Die Bilder sollten alle auch in Category:Self-published work drin sein. Und: Es besteht keine Eile! Im Moment kenne ich noch keine konkrete Konsequenz, außer, dass "Radiologe" halt eben mehr stimmt, als "Fotograf". Danke nochmals! --Hellerhoff (talk) 14:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ich hab jetzt einmal einen Edit gemacht: File:01-Sigmadivertikulitis CT ax 001 Perforation - Annotation.png. Bedingung für die Einteiung als Radiologe wäre, dass es in beiden Kategorieen ist: Category:Radiological images by Hellerhoff und Category:Self-published work (zweitere kommt automatisch über {{Own}}). Wenn das so passt, dann würde ich mich danach um die Anpassung kümmern. Dauert aber vermutlich wieder ein paar Tage, da ich jetzt erst einmal unterwegs bin. --Schlurcher (talk) 10:51, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ich habe jetzt alle Bilder in der Kategorie drin. Neue erhalten die Kat automatisch über mein Hochlade-Tool. Beste Grüße! --Hellerhoff (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Die Umstellung läuft. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sieht einwandfrei aus. :-) --Hellerhoff (talk) 16:14, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Die Umstellung läuft. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. Habe jetzt eine Kategorie Category:Radiological images by Hellerhoff erstellt und werde die verwenden. Danke! Grüße!--Hellerhoff (talk) 16:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Eine persönliche Tracking-Kategorie würde funktionieren. Die sind auf Commons auch erlaubt, solange man Sie als versteckte Kategorie deklariert. So etwas in der Art: Category:Radiological images from Hellerhoff. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok. Ich denke mal drüber nach. Ich würde irgendein Erkennungs-Flag einbauen (eine spezielle Kategorie?). Wird aber dann vermutlich nur für die Bilder, die ich neu hochlade verwendet. Wenn eine Kategorie eine Option wäre, könnte ich nachträglich natürlich mit cat-a-lot was machen. Danke erstmal! Ich melde mich gegebenenfalls. Grüße! Hellerhoff (talk) 11:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot: MIME type
Hi! Please tell me, how can I set the rank of the property "media type" to "Normal rank" by myself, like the bot does this. Thank you, Doc Taxon (talk) 13:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Normal rank" is the default. By simply adding a Structured Data Claim, it will get the normal rank. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have set media type with image/svg+xml - later came your bot and also set rank to normal rank. I don't understand this. Doc Taxon (talk) 20:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Could you please provide the name of the file where this happened? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, Du sprichst ja deutsch, das macht es einfacher. Ich hatte dies über die Beobachtungsliste gefunden, ist da aber nicht mehr drin und ich hab mir das Lemma leider nicht gemerkt. Verbleiben wir so, ich halte die Augen offen, und wenn dies nochmals vorkommen sollte, melde ich mich mit genaueren Angaben, okay? Liebe Grüße, Doc Taxon (talk)
- Alles klar, verbleiben wir so. Viele Grüße --Schlurcher (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, Du sprichst ja deutsch, das macht es einfacher. Ich hatte dies über die Beobachtungsliste gefunden, ist da aber nicht mehr drin und ich hab mir das Lemma leider nicht gemerkt. Verbleiben wir so, ich halte die Augen offen, und wenn dies nochmals vorkommen sollte, melde ich mich mit genaueren Angaben, okay? Liebe Grüße, Doc Taxon (talk)
- Could you please provide the name of the file where this happened? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
leading zeroes in headings
I have already asked you to stop "fixing" headings by removing the leading zero. It is not incorrect to state bearings in this way, for example see [4]. Also this change is ridiculous - why is 000 considered incorrect but 00 correct? I do not accept the answer that it's to make it compatible with bots - Commons is primarily for humans to use, and if bots can't understand a correct format, they should be updated to do so. I now have to revert a large number of your fixes. If your bot continues to mess up my system, I will add a {{nobots}} tag to them. Voice of Clam 18:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Commons is for humans to read, therefore I'm changing this. Nevertheless, I'm now stopping this change for all files that contain "Voice of Clam" as we previously agreed that we disagree here. Please use
{{bots|deny=SchlurcherBot}}
if there are general concerns with by bot's tasks. Thanks --Schlurcher (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
updating SD for locations
Hi Schlurcher, see e.g. this version history. I have removed false camera location (edit comment could be better, but your bot won't read it anyway) and inserted best guess object location on the description page of File:2017-01-21 GuentherZ Voesendorf Friedhof (27) Gedenkstaette NS-Opfer.jpg (and others). It is easier to guess object location than it is to guess correct camera location. Your bot copied the new object location to the SD (ok), but did not remove the false camera location (not ok, needs double manual work). Can you think about generally keeping location info in sync in file description / SD? Which means not only add new values, but remove removed values on the other side and change changed values on the other side? best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 08:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, currently the focus is on adding SDC. Keeping them in sync (or preferably removing the non-SDC information) is the long term goal. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Wrong modifications
Please have a look to User_talk:SchlurcherBot#Wrong_removing_of_SDC --XRay 💬 19:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- @XRay: Thanks for highlighting. Should now work as expected. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:56, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Some of the properties should allow duplicates, if the qualifiers differ. heritage designation (P1435) is one, depicts (P180) another. --XRay 💬 04:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Fine. -- Schlurcher (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
MRI Warntafel
Sehr geehrter Autor, ich habe eine Frage zu Ihrem MRT Warntafelbild. Haben Sie dafür die Urheberrechte? Ich würde es gerne für einen Vortrag verwenden. Gerne würde ich auch per EMail mit Ihnen In Kontakt treten.
LG — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.115.125.152 (talk) 17:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Könnten Sie bitte das genaue Bild verlinken oder nennen? --Schlurcher (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Who knows better…?
…about Lisbon tram network geography? Me, or your bot? Please undo these two edits and make sure this kind of deliberate revoking of human curated information based on the dangerous assumption that GIGO data blindly gathered by automated processes is somehow superior. Let’s have bots doing bot work — there’s plenty to be done, and let’s keep serious content curation in human hands. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:39, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- The first diff is not even by my bot, so not sure what you suggest there. The file was not edited by my bot either. In the second diff provided my bot updated the SDC to match the update you provided to the file description. This edit was made to match both. So to answer your question: The bot assumes that the user knows better and matches SDC. So in summary, no update to my bot seems needed and it works as expected. --Schlurcher (talk) 06:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry about the 1st diff, I used the curID number by mistake — I meant this one instead.
- Anyway, both cases are analogous: For those two photos, I corrected their wrong geolocation given at Flickr (likely introduced manually by the photographer, guessworking from a map on dim recollections of their recent Lisbon holidays) and added heading info, based on my knowledge of the matter. Then your bot transcribed my heading info to SCD, and that’s good, but also replaced in the wikitext of these two filepages the latitude and longitude numbers (which I had corrected) with the wrong originals meanwhile stored in SCD. That’s what I think is a problem. If you think this situation is not worrisome, the go ahead and do nothing. I’ll add to my workload, on top of correcting human errors, also undoing miscorrections made by bots.
- -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I’m wrong!!! -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:35, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Forget everything above: Your bot fixed the SDC data with my corrected values from the wikitext, not the other way around. I’m so sorry! -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Perfect thanks. --Schlurcher (talk) 19:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Please explain SchlurcherBot edit
Please explain this SchlurcherBot edit, it does not seem immediately obvious to me. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done Okay I needed to use heading:45 not just 45. My error. Thanks bot. Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, either heading:45 or alt:45. The third parameter is meaningless without context. --Schlurcher (talk) 10:26, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Bot adding redundant statements
Your bot is mass adding redundant statements like mime type to the structured data (e.g. Special:Diff/663087414). There's no consensus for that that I'm aware of, so could you stop your bot from adding those statements? See Commons talk:Structured_data/Modeling#Importing_all_imageinfo_data_into_structured_data where it was pointed out that this information is already available in SPARQL queries, the RDF outputs as well as the API. There's also a link there to the ticket I made asking for the JSON output to include the same info as the RDF outputs. - Nikki (talk) 02:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm here just to say that I was not aware of this possibility (too?). Here an example query [5] that could clarify this possibility. Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 14:29, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- This should be discussed on the project modeling page, not my talk page: Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Meta --Schlurcher (talk) 12:27, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Bot deny didn't seem to be respected
Hi. SchlurcherBot did not seem to respect {{Bots}}/deny when performing edit Special:Diff/671864962. I admit I may have incorrect syntax or whatever, and if that is the case then I apologise. I am trying to be diligent about precision of co-ordinates and I am currently unclear if some Bots are respecting this but currently do not have time resource to bring myself to speed if this is a bot problwm, wikidata problem, rendering problem or simply my misunderstanding that so in the interim I was attempting to defer some bots at the moment. My issue here is bots/deny did not seem to be respected. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Copyright claim without author's name
Hello,
In 2020, SchlurcherBot inserted the author's name with the copyright claim (example), but it is not the case anymore (example). Any reason ?
Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 07:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Author names with apostrophe collide with string declaration, so this observation is specific to the username used. It's also nothing that I can quickly fix, so I've opted to not add the author declaration in these cases. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello, please update the description of this file again with the robot because the fundamental changes have been made in the file and its license has also changed. Thank youCaesarIran (talk) 07:47, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
Fragwürdiger Parameter fix
Hallo, dein bot ändert Geo-Koordinaten, von zB {{Object location|49°18′52.8″N 09°08′27.1″E}}
auf {{Object location|49|18|52.8|N|9|08|27.1|E}}
. Das sollte unterlassen werden, es ist keine Korrektur sondern eine unerwünschte Formatänderung.
Es läuft auch der Richtlinie zuwider, dass Änderungen (im Quellcode der Beschreibung) unterbleiben sollten, wenn sie keinen sichtbaren Unterschied bewirken
"Invisible source-code edits should never be done without a visual change", "Ein Edit soll immer mindestens zu einer nach außen sichtbaren oder wirksamen Veränderung führen".
Würdest du bitte deinen bot in dieser Hinsicht korrigieren ? Danke -- sarang♥사랑 09:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo, genau diese Formatänderung wurde vorher von anderer Seite gewünscht und daraufhin von mir implementiert. Damals war die Idee Category:Media with coordinates in DMS format von Schreibfehlern zu befreien, da diese in der alternativen Schreibweise häufiger auftreten. Ich reduziere generell rein Code-kosmetische Änderungen. In diesem Fall hilft diese Standardizierung auch enorm dabei Strukturierte Daten zu extrahieren, da man die ganzen Ausnahmen nicht nochmals berücksichtigen muss. Als Nebenbemerkung, Ideen wie {{Inform}}, die auch lediglich der Code-Optimierung dienen, sind schwierig, wenn es darum geht Strukturierte Daten daraus zu extrahieren. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:05, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Danke für deine Erklärung. Die Sinnhaftigkeit der Category:Media with coordinates in DMS format erschliesst sich mir nicht - warum dezimale Angaben nicht, DMS-Angaben hingegen eine eigene Kategorie bekommen.
- Viel schlimmer, ich habe noch nicht begriffen wozu Commons:Structured data dienen; ich habe bisher auch keine Anleitung gefunden was ich wo eingeben sollte um das zu unterstützen. Mag daran liegen dass ich dieser Sache zuwenig Wichtikeit beigemessen habe? -- sarang♥사랑 08:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sarang:
- Die Regel dass Quellcode-änderungen nicht erlaubt sind, ist in den Wikipedien so, aber nicht explizit auf Commons so definiert. Daher ist meine Rechtsauslegung so, dass die Wikpedia-Regeln hier hinterfragend übernommen werden sollten (ohne es explizit erwähnen zu müssen).
- Wenn ein Bot Masseneweise Quellcode-edits macht ist das was anderes als wenn es ein Nutzer macht: (i) User-erfahrung wird häufig nach Edits eingestuft (ii) Bot-edits sind für Massenedits gedacht und können auch in der Beobachtungsliste ausgeblendet werden.
- Wenn ein Bot mit einem Bot-Flag einen Unsinn macht (bzw. machen würde), sollte man (i) checken ob dafür eine Permission gegeben wurde (ii) hinterfragen ob die Permission Sinn hat.
- Object location Maschinenlesbar für Structured data zu machen ist wichtig für z.B. https://wma.wmflabs.org/
- @Schlurcher: gibt es wo eine Genehmigung, dass er Bot solche Quell-Code-Editierungen macht? Ich habe mir Commons:Bots/Requests/SchlurcherBot 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 nicht angeschaut. Ich würde aber explizit nachfragen ob reine Quelltexteditierungen auch erlaubt sind (mit Begründung).
- @EugeneZelenko: You imho approve most Bot-Flags on Commons, is there a guideline if Bots are allowed to make invisible Source-Code-edits? On most Wikipedia they are not allowed, but for machine-readable-structured-data this might be usefull, if some code don't understand the different form of souce-code-syntaxes.
- Please elaborate. Several bots are adding Structured Data on Commons. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:28, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 14:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bezüglich Inform sehe ich das ähnlich wie Gendern, jeder soll es so machen wie sie/er denkt. Ich gebe aber zu für Nicht-nativ-Speaker (English, bzw Wiki-Syntax) ist Inform schwer zu verstehen. Für Code/Structured data ist es mühsam, wenn es keinen einheitlichen Standard gibt (aber "Diversity" und Regenbogenfarben wird ja derzeit überall groß vermarkted).
- PS:Beim Gendern bin ich dafür die unmovierte Form (männliche Witwe statt Witwer) zu verwenden, da die meisten anderen Formen die Sprache unnötig sexialisieren und die Unterschiede binären (und non-binären) Geschlechter betont und Fremdsprachlerïnnen/Legastenikerïnnen diskriminiert.[1] Das einzige Problem bei der unmovierten Version ist dass es sich gleich schreibt&spricht wie das (teils verbotene) generische Maskulin/Feminin (was der amtlichen Rechtschreibung entspricht). Auf Commons hat noch keiner meine inkonsistente Genderung ausgebessert, also auf Commons gibt es mehr Freiheit/Wildwuchs, mit allen Vor- und Nachteilen.
- — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 14:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC) — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 14:26, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Sarang:
- Ganz generell trachte ich danach, jede Aufnahme mit den richtigen geolocations hochzuladen. Da meine Kamera die Koordinaten nicht ermittelt, mache ich das nachträglich - so genau es nur geht.
- Quellcode wie
43°46′46.2″N 5°25′04″E
finde ich viel leserlicher als das identische43.7794837 | 05.4177725
, und vor allem bevorzuge ich wenn die Eingabe dem display möglichst gleichsieht. Vor paar Jahren konnte ich Jarek dazu bewegen, auch dieses Format zuzulassen. - Allerdings erreiche ich mit dem DMS-Format, dass jede damit versehene Datei in eine Wartungskatehorie gestellt wird, sozusagen als fehlerhaft gebrandmarkt wird.
- Noch schlimmer, immer bei Koordinatenangaben kommen die mir unverständlichen Kategorisierungen "missing SDC coordinates", "missing SDC copyright license" dazu.
- Das bewegt mich dazu, nicht nur künftig auf Koordinatenangaben zu verzichten (sie höchstens als Kommentar mitzugeben) sondern auch meine bisherigen lokalisierten Dateien zu überarbeiten, d.h. die Koordinaten wieder zu entfernen.
- Ich hatte es für erstrebenswert gehalten und als vorteilhaft angesehen, wenn jedes Bild zeigt woher es stammt und die Möglichkeit bietet, mit einfachem Link die Karten der Umgebung anzusehen; wenn jedoch meine Arbeit stets in Fehlerkategorien mündet werde ich vermeiden, was das verursacht -- sarang♥사랑 05:52, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Bot getting logged out?
Special:Contributions/2A02:8108:323F:C9C8:CD46:7F8A:4636:B153/64 sure looks like your bot. Multichill (talk) 20:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've temporarily blocked the IP as a precaution, see here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Append assert=bot to the url to prevent logged out editing see mw:API:Assert. Multichill (talk) 08:47, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Will add this. --Schlurcher (talk) 15:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- Append assert=bot to the url to prevent logged out editing see mw:API:Assert. Multichill (talk) 08:47, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks both. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Royal Marines photographs
Regarding these File:Queen Elizabeth II Funeral 19 09 2022-111 (52369913940).jpg and File:Queen Elizabeth II Funeral 19 09 2022-112 (52369730148).jpg They are of Royal Marines Band Service people and are currently in the Category:Royal Marines. There is a dedicated Category:Band of the Royal Marines https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Band_of_the_Royal_Marines where you could put them. That would be helpful when searching for all such images. Dreddmoto (talk) 02:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
P170 set to "valeur inconnue" = unknown value
Hello, I just see that your bot add severals structured data (thanks) but also set P170 to "unknown value" what's the added value to add an unknown info ? and to what's it's related ? the bot already add I'm the author/photograph Marc wik (talk) 23:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, the bot adds your name as a qualifier to P170, as there is normally no wikidata entry for wikimedia contributers. To be able to add qualifier, the entry must exist and is thus defaulted to "unknown value". Hope this helps. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Danke und Frage
Hallo Schlurcher, ganz herzlichen Dank Dir für die unermüdliche Arbeit Deines SchlurcherBots! :-)
Eine Kleinigkeit: Ich verstehe nicht, warum er manchmal einige meiner neu hochgeladenen Bilder sehr schnell mit structured data versieht (z.B. dieses hier), andere am selben Tag hochgeladene Bilder dagegen nicht (z.B. dieses hier nicht) oder erst viel später. Sind das einfach Kapazitätsgrenzen? Oder kann ich den Bot irgendwie „anlocken“, damit er alle meine Bilder mit structured data versieht?
Herzliche Grüße und alles Gute, --Aristeas (talk) 08:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo, ja im Grunde sind das Kapazitätsgrenzen. Es werden mehr Bilder pro Tag hochgeladen als mein Bot verarbeiten kann. Ich habe jetzt alle deine Bilder aus Category:Photographs by Aristeas - by name in die Pipeline gestellt. Ich wollte irgendwann dazu auch eine Request-Wikiseite machen, allerdings bisher noch nicht dazu gekommen. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo Schlurcher, vielen herzlichen Dank dafür, dass Du meine Bilder in die Pipeline aufgenommen hast! Das ist super! Herzliche Grüße, --Aristeas (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- Kein Problem. Ich habe hierfür jetzt auch diese Seite angelegt: User:SchlurcherBot/Prio. --Schlurcher (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo Schlurcher, vielen herzlichen Dank dafür, dass Du meine Bilder in die Pipeline aufgenommen hast! Das ist super! Herzliche Grüße, --Aristeas (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
Nachfrage
Hallo Schlurcher, nur vorab mal die Frage, ob du mittels deines Bots bei all meinen rd. 6000 hochgeladenen Files, wo bei Autor [[User:Bwag|Bwag]] eingetragen ist, dies in [[User:Bwag|C.Stadler/Bwag] ändern kannst und du dazu auch gewillt wärst? Gruß Bwag (talk) 10:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Bwag: Hallo, ja, kann ich gerne machen. Dazu würde ich allerdings Commons:AWB verwenden, das geht am einfachsten und das könntest du auch direkt tun. Sag mir kurz Bescheid, ob du es selbst probieren möchtest oder ich es für dich ausführen soll (beides ist ok). --Schlurcher (talk) 11:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo Schlurcher, danke mal für die rasche Antwort. Mir wäre es lieber, wenn du es machst, da für mich AWB "Neuland" wäre. Also nochmals. Auf der Filesite im Abschnitt Summary und im Feld „Autor“ anstelle von [[User:Bwag|Bwag]] in [[User:Bwag|C.Stadler/Bwag] abändern (ohne Leerzeichen). Vorab schon ein Dankeschön und Gruß Bwag (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Done Der Wikitext ist aktualisiert. Die vorherigen Strukturierten Daten habe ich entfernt. Mein Bot fügt jetzt noch die neuen korrigierten Strukturierten Daten ein. Das kann noch etwas dauern, aber dann ist alles fertig. Grüße. --Schlurcher (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Bombig - besten Dank! Gruß Bwag (talk) 09:09, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Done Der Wikitext ist aktualisiert. Die vorherigen Strukturierten Daten habe ich entfernt. Mein Bot fügt jetzt noch die neuen korrigierten Strukturierten Daten ein. Das kann noch etwas dauern, aber dann ist alles fertig. Grüße. --Schlurcher (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hallo Schlurcher, danke mal für die rasche Antwort. Mir wäre es lieber, wenn du es machst, da für mich AWB "Neuland" wäre. Also nochmals. Auf der Filesite im Abschnitt Summary und im Feld „Autor“ anstelle von [[User:Bwag|Bwag]] in [[User:Bwag|C.Stadler/Bwag] abändern (ohne Leerzeichen). Vorab schon ein Dankeschön und Gruß Bwag (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Purchasing Of Space World Airlines Boeing 737-200
Please, I have a serious client that is very much interested in purchasing the Space World Airlines Boeing 737-200 would really appreciate if I can have a direct contact with the marketer. I'm Francis. Here is my contact +2347062038314 we can chat with this number. Thank you. Waiting for your swift response. 197.211.58.190 20:22, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
ISO date help
hi! can i ask you to run your bot for Commons:List of former administrators once? to convert all the dates to yyyy-mm-dd. i will clean up the page right after your bot and bear the responsibility for the edits. thx! RZuo (talk) 15:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- That's nothing my bot can directly do, as I only works in conjunction with the date parameter. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:58, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot
Moin Schlurcher, danke für die Arbeit, die du hier investierst! Wäre schön, wenn du deinem Bot gelegentlich mal beibringst (falls noch nicht geschehen), dass ISBN cleanup innerhalb von Linkzielen nicht so angebracht ist. Dank & Gruß, Achim55 (talk) 11:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Danke für den Hinweis. Ich schaue mir das einmal an. Eigentlich sollten REDIRECTs gänzlich übersprungen werden. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:49, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Done REDIRECTs ausgeschlossen und gleich noch angepasst, dass diese Änderungen nun nur außerhalb von Links ausgeführt werden. Somit sollte das nicht wieder passieren. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:04, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
SVGs mit <switch>
Du scheinst alle SVGs mit <switch> zugespielt zu bekommen, so dass du sie beliebig lange festhalten kannst oder auch Änderungen verbieten. Da bei ist gerade bei denen ein sehr großer Bedarf des Aus- und Rumprobierens. Was bedeutet, dass man viel ändern muss. Es scheint mir auch, dass es für das <switch>-Feature keine guten Beschreibungen gibt. Meinst du, dass man gänzlich die Finger davon lassen sollte ? Nomen4Omen (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Leider kann ich mit dieser Aussage so wenig anfangen. Schlurcher (talk) 11:10, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
File metadata?
Are we really adding this now? I guess you're tired of waiting for the WMF folks to implement that? :-) Multichill (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to stop once there is a better solution. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:08, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
How to finally get my picture out of "Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates"
As you see I already caused the warning on File:Anvil cloud off of Taidong.jpg to disappear. But still the file shows up in Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates. How many years will it take before that category can be removed from my picture? Thanks. Jidanni (talk) 06:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Completed. At the current rate of my bot, it would take approximately 5 years to process all pictures. --Schlurcher (talk) 06:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I wonder whether it might be possible to make this happen immediately during geocoordinate changes with "Locator Tool".Jim.henderson (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please contact the maintainer of the "Locater Tool". Technically this should be possible. As this is a volunteer project, it will depend if this is implemented or not. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:36, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I wonder whether it might be possible to make this happen immediately during geocoordinate changes with "Locator Tool".Jim.henderson (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Email notification
Hello, I receive emails from SchlurcherBot even though I have turned it off in my "Global preferences > User profile > Prohibit these users from emailing me:". How can I prevent this flood of emails? -- F. Riedelio • 💬 18:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, F. Riedelio! SchlurcherBot is not sending you e-mails, as such the option you selected does not help. What you describe looks more like notification e-mails from the system. Please check your notification settings. You may have selected that you get an e-mail for each instance of an edit to your uploaded files. If this is the case you will get a lot of system messages, as SchlurcherBot is performing edits on your pages. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Schlurcher!
- Thank you very much for the information. F. Riedelio • 💬 07:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Hope you're doing well. You didn't go to the hackathon, right? Maybe you should come next year? I noticed Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates is getting a bit full. You don't happen to have a bot that can empty it out? That would be nice. I noticed because some of the files are still in Category:Files_with_coordinates_missing_SDC_location_of_creation_(52°_N,_4°E) after I ran the revere geocoder on that category. Multichill (talk) 13:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Multichill: Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately too busy in real live. Maybe I should join the next hackathon to be out of normal live to have some dedicated time. I have actually concrete plans for Category:Pages with local camera coordinates and missing SDC coordinates for some time: I've noticed that parsing the wikitext is not enough. So, if started from scratch and I've written new code to parse the html and not the wikitext. The parser is working and the http selector as well. I think I would just need a couple of more hours to put the loose ends together. I hope I can find that time next weekend and then we should see some progress. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Another possibility is to have the api parse it for you. You get xml which is probably easier to work with than the html. Link to the manual. Multichill (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. For now I got it working with https://html-agility-pack.net/. I use the API parse, but the pure html for now, not the parsetree; but I may consider this in the furture. I have this now working on my test bot account. In case I do not see any errors after checking the last 100 edits, I'll start this in production and you should see this category go down. I'll do the others (like object coordinates) next. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- We used to use Beautiful Soup back in the day that Pywikibot was still called Pywikipedia. Multichill (talk) 14:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- With the updates that I made, I got this category down from 200'000 to ~1'000. I'll make sure it stays there. Will update next the logic for object coordinates to get this category down as well. --Schlurcher (talk) 10:16, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- We used to use Beautiful Soup back in the day that Pywikibot was still called Pywikipedia. Multichill (talk) 14:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. For now I got it working with https://html-agility-pack.net/. I use the API parse, but the pure html for now, not the parsetree; but I may consider this in the furture. I have this now working on my test bot account. In case I do not see any errors after checking the last 100 edits, I'll start this in production and you should see this category go down. I'll do the others (like object coordinates) next. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Another possibility is to have the api parse it for you. You get xml which is probably easier to work with than the html. Link to the manual. Multichill (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
Can you help ?
Hello, "bonjour". Right now on wikipedia.fr, in the article Les Aventures de Huckleberry Finn, the file [File:Adventures of Huckleberry Finn 1885-p28.png] doesn't show on smartphones. May be this action of your bot broke something ? Can you please check and repare if possible? Thanks a lot. Punctilla (talk) 18:00, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, it does show on Smartphone. Schlurcher (talk) 18:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for answering, it does show now. Gute Nacht. Punctilla (talk) 23:01, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
History
I did history and found My grandfather who wrote to my late father in England. I have letters and sunrise books from the 1940s he sent him plus his son wrote to him and like to know more about him. The letters date back to 1940s. With one he had signed it to my father. 92.12.50.38 17:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- My email is [email protected]. I’m in England. Mufti come to England for few years and didn’t know my Nan was with child. And went back to USA. 92.12.50.38 17:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Can you please review some GODL-India images
Hello @Schlurcher, I have noticed that your bot always adds structured data in files we upload. I would request you to kindly review some GODL-India images that I have uploaded or have worked on in past few days. Its presence in the given link needs to be confirmed. It will be of great help. Some of these are used widely by some of the most viewed pages on Wikipedia.
- File:Bharat Mandapam Morning View.jpg
- File:Bharat Mandapam Evening View.jpg
- File:President Droupadi Murmu official portrait higher version.jpg
- File:Union Minister for Home Affairs.jpg
- File:Atal Bihari Vajpayee (crop 2).jpg
- File:India-Middle East-Europe Economics Corridor.jpg
- File:The Union Minister for Parliamentary Affairs, Coal and Mines, Shri Pralhad Joshi.jpg
- File:Yogiji with President Murmu.jpg
- File:Yogiji in 2023.jpg
- File:The Union Home Minister, Shri Amit Shah, in New Delhi on August 19, 2019 (cropped).jpg
- File:Shri Raj Kumar Singh calls on the Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi, at 7, Lok Kalyan Marg, New Delhi on July 07, 2021.jpg
- File:Raj Kumar Singh with PM Modi (cropped).jpg
- File:The Chief Minister of Maharashtra, Shri Uddhav Thackeray calling on the Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi, in New Delhi on February 21, 2020.jpg
- File:Bharat Mandapam Pragati Maidan.jpg
I know the list is quite long. But I don't know what else to do. Please help. Shaan SenguptaTalk 12:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Shaan Sengupta: For this task, you would need a license reviewer (see, Commons:License review). I do not have this user right and therefore, I cannot be of help here. I can help that the license given on the description page is reflected in the structured data, but not more. Please see Category:Unreviewed photos of GODL-India for further details. Schlurcher (talk) 17:47, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Please add some tracking categories
Hello, I noticed you run User:SchlurcherBot. I forgot to notify you a few months ago, but please add the following tracking categories to your list of SDC depicts tracking categories:
- Category:Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 missing SDC copyright license
- Category:Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 with different SDC copyright license
Thanks in advance, Matr1x-101 {user - talk? - useless contributions} 17:09, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, yes, I have added them last weekend. But have not run this yet, as I first need to sort some issues out. --Schlurcher (talk) 17:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- I've cought up on the backlog and both of these categories were fully processed. They will be monitored also in the future. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:06, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
structured data bitte ändern
Hallo Schlurcher, bei den Dateien in der Category:Rank insignia of firefighters in Bavaria und Category:Dienstgrade für die Angehörigen der Freiwillige Feuerwehren in Hessen nebst Unterkategorien habe ich überall den Lizenzstatus nach de:Wikipedia:Urheberrechtsfragen#CC-BY-SA_statt_C0 geändert. Kannst Du das bitte in den structured data von SchlurcherBot nachziehen lassen? Danke sehr, – Doc Taxon • Talk • 12:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sollte erledigt sein. Der Bot synchronisiert bisher noch nicht Lizenzen, wenn sich diese ändern. Deshalb musste ich erst alle entfernen und dann neu hinzufügen; nicht wundern, wenn alle Dateien deshalb zweimal bearbeitet wurden. --Schlurcher (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Passt schon, vielen Dank. Oft fehlt mir auch die Zeit, Bots mit Features zu füttern, aber ich denke, dass das mit der Zeit dann auch wird. Kannst Du mir das Script oder Script snippet zeigen, dass die Lizenzen hinzufügt? Mich interessiert die Zusammensetzung des Content JSON beim Edit. – Doc Taxon • Talk • 17:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Christmas and New Year 2024
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025! | |
Hello Schlurcher, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 11:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Happy New Year and Merry Christmas 72.88.87.43 20:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Technical Barnstar | |
Bei dir gibt es gleich mehrere Barnstars die du meiner Meinung nach verdient hättest, aber dein Schlurcherbot ist phänomenal, der hat mir und andren schon so oft geholfen. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:25, 10 January 2024 (UTC) |
Quality Image Promotion
Your image has been reviewed and promoted
Congratulations! Schiffsmodell Belem2.jpg, which was produced by you, was reviewed and has now been promoted to Quality Image status. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Quality images candidates. We also invite you to take part in the categorization of recently promoted quality images.
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Adding image hashes via Structured Data
Hi Schlurcher,
would it be possible to add image hashes via SchlurcherBot? Sometimes they are already contained in the EXIF metadata, and there is this handy property for it P4092. (There is also this perceptual hash thing, probably unrelated)
Does this make sense, and would it be doable? Kristbaum (talk) 09:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- +1 If then those image hashes can be retrieved via an API call, it would be a great way to detect duplicate files before uploading them. Beireke1 (talk) 09:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm doing this already, please see a recent diff: [6]. I'm even updating this is the file has changed. However, note that I'm currently at letter C and it will take quite some more time to get through all files. Also note that there is a template {{P}} that allows for easy linking of properties, just FYI. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, great to see, this is exactly what we were looking for! Thanks for all your work! Kristbaum (talk) 22:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm doing this already, please see a recent diff: [6]. I'm even updating this is the file has changed. However, note that I'm currently at letter C and it will take quite some more time to get through all files. Also note that there is a template {{P}} that allows for easy linking of properties, just FYI. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Sailboat
Your bot just removed Sailboat from a sailboat. Any reason why?
--Don (talk) 07:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- See User:SchlurcherBot/Mass revert computer-aided tagging. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Okay kewl, NBD just asking. Thanks for the revert, I will revert them if it happens again 1.488m is going to run for a while I am guessing. Don (talk) 08:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- See User:SchlurcherBot/Mass revert computer-aided tagging. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:19, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- while i looked thru my edits, i notice that there are "Tag: Computer-aided Tagging" and "Tag: Computer-aided Tagging - manual". does your bot distinguish the two? did you run an analysis about the "good tags" rate of the manual edits? RZuo (talk) 10:13, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Manual edits are out of scope and not touched. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- thx! RZuo (talk) 14:01, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it does. Manual edits are out of scope and not touched. --Schlurcher (talk) 12:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Corrections to SDC properties width/height/data size/hash
Hi Schlurcher! I noticed that SchlurcherBot added the above-mentioned SDC properties to this file. While I certainly commend these additions, I was wondering whether any tasks have been set up to check the correctness of these properties? In this example, I overrode the original file with a higher quality version, and consequently, the values of the properties were no longer accurate. In this case, I updated the properties myself, but I fear few would think to do that. --Askeuhd (talk) 13:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Askeuhd: Thanks for reaching out. Whereas the current focus is on adding SDC properties, the bot also checks certain properties and keeps them in sync with the information provided elsewhere. These properties include media type (P1163), checksum (P4092), data size (P3575), duration (P2047), height (P2048), width (P2049), number of pages (P1104). Others, especially date and coordinate, are in the works. So yes. However, currently a complete bot run takes like 4 years and it will need improvements like this to do what you asked for in a meaningful way. In case you update further files and do not want to update manually, please put the files here: User:SchlurcherBot/Prio --Schlurcher (talk) 08:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I sincerely appreciate you getting back to me. I will remember what you said, and you are obviously correct, adding these properties ought to happen at upload time, not by bot. Askeuhd (talk) 08:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Selection of files to proces
I recently added a few files with the license Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs, wich is little used. I notice that the bot has not worked the files. Is this because it is an unusual licence? File:Crocussen Kapellen 1.jpg, File:Crocussen Kapellen 2.jpg, File:Tuin Kapellen 1.jpg, File:Tuin Kapellen 2.jpg and File:Tuin Kapellen 3.jpg. Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:09, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, the bot is just backlogged. These licenses should be processed just fine. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
SchlurcherBot - structured data on files with No source/No permission/No license tags
Hi. I saw the bot adding structured data to a file that was tagged with {{No permission since}}. Some of that data was the copyright status, which is in dispute. I'm not sure it's hurting anything to leave it working as is, but if it's not too much trouble, can you have the bot skip over files that are in active deletion processes (DR, CSD, No source/DW No source/No permission/No license)? If the outcome of a deletion process is a change in the license (as is sometimes the case), the structured data will be incorrect. Cheers, The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 09:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, makes sense to skip them indeed. I'll update accordingly Schlurcher (talk) 13:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Invalid license
Hi, This doesn't work, and the file gets in Category:Media without a license: needs history check. Thanks, Yann (talk) 15:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Big thank's !
Just this little message of greatfull thanks for your kind and intelligent work with your bot, on many of my contributions. ;) Best regards. Tisourcier (talk) 08:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Error reporting for SchlurcherBot
When your robot added structured data at File:MiNe-KissX 102-6557RG.jpg, it added "public domain" & "copyrighted" at the same time. 世界解放者 (talk) 02:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll correct that prior to restarting the bot. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- It maked same error again. 世界解放者 (talk) 08:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mhh. Not in this edit: [7]. Could you link the diff to the new error? Thanks --Schlurcher (talk) 11:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- It maked same error at File:104年4月2日 馬英九總統出席中華民國104年中樞遙祭黃帝陵典禮.jpg and other nine files that I uploaded recently. 世界解放者 (talk) 13:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check again. Schlurcher (talk) 18:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, now I found the error. It occured based on a list overflow on my end. So it was at first not easy to replicate. But now it seems we are good. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'll check again. Schlurcher (talk) 18:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- It maked same error at File:104年4月2日 馬英九總統出席中華民國104年中樞遙祭黃帝陵典禮.jpg and other nine files that I uploaded recently. 世界解放者 (talk) 13:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Mhh. Not in this edit: [7]. Could you link the diff to the new error? Thanks --Schlurcher (talk) 11:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- It maked same error again. 世界解放者 (talk) 08:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Cat-a-lot not working on certain files
I don't know whether the bot caused it or whether it's just a very weird edit that the uploader made, but I'm talking about this type of edit: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Seattle_2011_-_Bon_Odori_064.jpg&diff=next&oldid=154010457&diffonly=1
The file is now in the Category:Bon odori and Category:Seattle Bon Odori 2011 which is a sub-category of Category:Bon odori. Cat-a-lot cannot remove the file from the parent category because the file is not being found. The parent category needs to be removed manually. The problem is that there are (or were) over 100 affected files like that in the Category:Bon odori. Nakonana (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nakonana: . I think as per the comment in the code by @Jmabel: this is intentional and also in a wy that cat-a-lot cannot remove it from the file. So I would judge that the current status is intended and should be retained. --Schlurcher (talk) 06:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- The error is that Category:Seattle Bon Odori should not be a subcat of Category:Bon odori. This edit is the problem. Exactly as I wrote, the former is a festival (involving quite a few aspects of Japanese culture), the latter is a specific form of dance. - Jmabel ! talk 14:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Auto-addition of inferrable categories
User:SchlurcherBot is great, could you change it or fork a complementary bot to add categories that are inferrable given the structured data that this bot adds?
It already reads and parses the date field, it would be nice if it then added "Videos of 2023" if that's in the field which the bot already writes into the "inception" field. It could also be put in a hidden subcat like "Uncategorized videos of 2023" so people can check these.
Likewise, it already writes the display resolution to the SD but does not add the respective Category:Videos by display resolution subcat. If not nearly all videos are in there I don't see why this category (its subcats) could be useful. If it was added to videos, then one could use this for statistics, petscans and maybe other things. The same goes for the WebM videos category which is currently up for deletion. Most webm videos are missing there so the category is essentially useless. (Note that these two are exceptional cases most WMC categories are useful.) If files were in there one could for example use this as a workaround to find videos in petscan which currently can't filter for videos except when combining with the Category:Videos by file format cat. It could also populate the Category:4K videos (this isn't just about adding these when writing the SD).
- I think you may be most up to the task as the bot already adds relevant structured data so can clearly read this data and is quite good at adding it. One could also add further inferrable cats like Videos without audio, Black and white videos (if it can read the content to some degree), or "Videos of 2024 from the United States" (depending on the license tag or other categories of the file) and so on. It would be a big endevour but addition of categories that are inferrable from other categories of a file would be very useful. Please let me know if you have any thoughts on that.
- It would go further than the original scope asked about above but would be very useful and it could be that getting a bot working on more such tasks would be the most straightforward way for it. An example is that a video in a subcategory Category:Black and white films should go into Category:Black and white videos, another is that files in Category:Animals in water should be moved to Category:Elephants in water if it's also in a subcat of elephants. There can be rare exceptions but having things auto-categorized with exceptional errors would be better than things missing and requiring lots of manual maintenance/subcategorization and there would be ways to deal with that (for example for video files in Category:Short films it would create a 'suggestion' to add Category:Short films videos) and move things out of ill-inferred categories where usually another cat of the file is false.
- On a related note, there often is false data in structured data but unlike with categories people usually don't see and correct it...and even the depicts data has data set and that data is true, the key things depicted may not be there so syncing depicts (/main subject?) statements with categories is something that I think is much needed if the "depicts" SD is to ever be useful (rather than a time/effort sink and duplicative) which I'm not sure of at all.
Maybe focusing this discussion inferrable technical criteria cats for videos would be best for now. Here I suggested that video2commons adds as many of these right away when uploading, such as "Videos with English subtitles" if it imports en subtitles. It is similar for gifs where Category:Animated GIF files are missing on many files. You could ignore the above indented paragraph, could you change the bot so that it adds inferrable categories about technical criteria to new videos that it adds SD to and maybe later expand that to e.g. a new bot that goes through files retrospectively? Thanks a lot for your efforts developing this bot! Prototyperspective (talk) 22:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are many more examples that one could list / add to such automatic categorization system(s) such as Category:Audio files of 1906 (see here). Prototyperspective (talk) 10:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for all the suggestions. I do currently not have the capacity to implement category additions and will first focus on SDC additions for the foreseeable future. There are some other bots that add categories already. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi, SchlurcherBot hat diesen Diff produziert. Ist ja auch ganz gut und schön. Was aber passiert, wenn dei Grafik mit einer verbesserten Version überschrieben wird. Dann stimmen alle Angaben in diesem Diff mit einem Schlag nicht mehr. Vielleicht kommt SchlurcherBot irgendwann mal wieder vorbei und macht ein Update, aber in der Zeit dazwischen haben wir dann dauernd diese falschen Angaben stehen? Ich halte das für nicht so gut, alle falschen Angaben in Wikipedia, Commons und Wikidata gehören da einfach nicht hin und sollten wir, schon bevor wir diese editieren, ausfiltern. Was ist denn Deine Meinung dazu? Ist ein RC-Bot für diese Aufgabe vielleicht besser geeignet? Liebe Grüße, – Doc Taxon • Talk • 12:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo, meiner Ansicht nach sollten gewisse SDC direkt beim Upload bzw. Re-Upload durch die Software gesetzt werden und nicht nachträglich durch irgendjemanden (inkl. meinen Bot). Meine Ansicht dazu ist auch in diesem Request: Commons:Requests for comment/Technical needs survey/UploadWizardSDC. Momentan arbeitet der Bot hauptsächlich alphabetisch und ist irgendwo beim Buchstaben "D". Gleichzeit kann ich auch noch die RC überwachen um zumindest den Status-Quo zu erhalten. --Schlurcher (talk) 13:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi Schlurcher, hope you're doing well. You might also have noticed the ping from Module_talk:Coordinates#Usage_of_P625?: I noticed you're bot is able to fix coordinate statements. Can you set your bot up to monitor Category:Media with the same P625 and object coordinates? Multichill (talk) 17:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I also run into a bad edit the the bot here, where P625 was removed for some reason. --Jarekt (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Multichill: My bot is removing all coordinate location (P625) and adds information from the coordinate templates accordingly. This generally works but is too aggressive for the edit by Jarekt. I can add this category to my monitoring categories and it should get fixed just fine. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Botanical gardens prints/ lithograph
I have an abundance of Professionaly gold-framed and hand- matted Botanical Garden prints/ lithograps dated back to the 1800's in excellent condition by various artists of the 1800's. I am parting my collection, as my age is aquiring me. If anyone is interested, please contact me. These were all pre-owned by a dear Dr. friend of mine for many, many years, who was an avid Orchid Collector. Thank you for your time indulging in a bit of ancient history. Have a great day. For any pictures, please contact me. Orchid Gardens (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
ist ein(e) Fotografie
Der Bot setzt in den structured data 'ist ein(e) den Wert Fotografie. Ist das korrekt? Natürlich ist die hochgeladene Bilddatei eine Fotografie. Wenn der abgebildete Gegenstand z.B. einen Papierabzug eines Fotos darstellt, ist es vermutlich richtig, wenn in den structered data steht ist ein(e) Fotografie. Ist das auch richtig, wenn der abgebildete Gegenstand ein Gebäude darstellt? Das irritiert mich. Danke für deine Erklärung. --Matutinho 19:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, könntest du mir bitte ein konkretes Bild schicken, auf das sich dein Kommentar bezieht. --Schlurcher (talk) 20:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Danke für deine Antwort. Hier einige Beispiele mit Eintrag ist ein(e) und dem Wert FotograFie in den structured data:
- Das fotografierte Objekt ist keine Fotografie, aber die digitale Datei natürlich schon. Danke für deine Kontrolle. Matutinho 06:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo, ok alles klar. Ja, das ist so gewollt. Auf Commons beziehen sich die strukturierten Daten, auf die "Datei" und nicht auf das was auf der Datei abgebildet ist. Es ist auch die Lizenz der Datei und nicht die Lizenz der abgebildeten Objekte, etc. Was auf der Datei abgebildet ist sollte über Depicts angegeben werden (und die Informationen über die abgebildeten Elemente sind dann darüber verlinkt und Informationen zu diesen sollten nur auf Wikidata abgelegt werden). Im Grunde ist fast alles hier eine Fotografie. Ausnahmen sind Sprachaufnahmen, und detailgetreue Abbildungen von Gemälden oder Büchern, diese versuche in als solche zu identifizieren. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Danke für die erhellende Antwort. Nach deiner Erklärung müssten auch die folgenden Dateien in den structured data einen Eintrag ist ein(e) mit dem Wert Fotografie haben.
- Woran liegt es, dass die erwähnten beiden Dateien den Fotografie-Eintrag (noch) nicht haben? Danke für deine Geduld und deine Unterstützung. Matutinho 07:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Der Grund hier liegt daran, dass es noch einen Backlog gibt und noch nicht alle Bilder bearbeitet wurden. Wenn ich diese direkt an meinen Bot weiterleite, so wurde dies alles ergänzt. Es wird Jahre dauern, bis das bei allen Dateien der Fall ist. Dafür habe ich auch diese Seite eingerichtet: User:SchlurcherBot/Prio. Idealerweise sollte das alles direkt beim Upload durch die WikiMedia Software ergänzt werden, aber soweit sind wir leider noch nicht. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Vielen Dank für deine Erklärungen Matutinho 16:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Der Grund hier liegt daran, dass es noch einen Backlog gibt und noch nicht alle Bilder bearbeitet wurden. Wenn ich diese direkt an meinen Bot weiterleite, so wurde dies alles ergänzt. Es wird Jahre dauern, bis das bei allen Dateien der Fall ist. Dafür habe ich auch diese Seite eingerichtet: User:SchlurcherBot/Prio. Idealerweise sollte das alles direkt beim Upload durch die WikiMedia Software ergänzt werden, aber soweit sind wir leider noch nicht. --Schlurcher (talk) 14:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo, ok alles klar. Ja, das ist so gewollt. Auf Commons beziehen sich die strukturierten Daten, auf die "Datei" und nicht auf das was auf der Datei abgebildet ist. Es ist auch die Lizenz der Datei und nicht die Lizenz der abgebildeten Objekte, etc. Was auf der Datei abgebildet ist sollte über Depicts angegeben werden (und die Informationen über die abgebildeten Elemente sind dann darüber verlinkt und Informationen zu diesen sollten nur auf Wikidata abgelegt werden). Im Grunde ist fast alles hier eine Fotografie. Ausnahmen sind Sprachaufnahmen, und detailgetreue Abbildungen von Gemälden oder Büchern, diese versuche in als solche zu identifizieren. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Adding location data from EXIF?
Hi there!
Have you considered having your bot also extract location data from the EXIF add the {{location}} tag to new uploads?
Cheers!
Rkieferbaum (talk) 20:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, this is done by other bots and not part of my bot (as of now). --Schlurcher (talk) 20:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
“width” and “height” on STL files
Please instruct SchlurcherBot to not add width (P2049) and height (P2048) to 3D model files, like it has done in this edit. (Warning: the model is not safe for work, so look at the file at your own risk. The diff should be safe though.) Width and height are meaningless for these files; the values MediaWiki reports, 5120×2880px, are simply hard-coded into the 3D extension. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 18:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Will do! Thanks. --Schlurcher (talk) 06:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Will now only be added to pages that are Images or Videos per Special:MediaStatistics. Also will be now removed from all 3D images going forward. So eventually the wrong additions are cleaned up as well. --Schlurcher (talk) 07:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Cagancho picture
Has your bot got this right? I think that the licence CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 that this image bears is not an acceptable one for Commons because the image is not made available for commercial use. Please reinstate the "speedy" request if this is so. Kelisi (talk) 03:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kelisi: I did not see any speedy deletion request on this file. But indeed the license of CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 is not acceptable. I've opened a deletion request to discuss. I only now see that you are the original uploader. If you want the file deleted for the same reasons, consider to add something like this template: {{speedydelete|G7. Accidential upload. License not acceptable}}. Thereby G7 highlights that you are the original uploader. --Schlurcher (talk) Schlurcher (talk) 09:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
ISO speed (sensor value scaling) for Canon PowerShot A430 compact digital camera
Hello. I have uploaded a few old photos taken by a Canon PowerShot A430 compact digital camera. SchlurcherBot tagged one of them with the exposure time (virtual shutter speed) taken from the metadata in the file. However, the bot did not tag the same image with its ISO speed (virtual sensor sensitivity, how the raw sensor values are scaled to get the color values in the jpeg image file).
You can find the ISO speed for this image with the exiftool program, with a command like exiftool -ISO Switzerland_glacier_from_above.jpg
(assuming you downloaded the image to that filename). Note that the ISO speed may not be trivial to get from this file, I believe in this case exiftool computes it from two different pieces of camera-specific metadata in the file: see notes for the Canon:AutoISO tag and the Composite:ISO tag. You can use a command like exiftool -G1 -s -"*ISO*" Switzerland_glacier_from_above.jpg
to see both the original metadata and the computed value together.
From what I can tell, SchlurcherBot does add the ISO speed from file metadata into wikidata for some other photos from a different camera, even when the camera was set to select the ISO speed automatically, see eg. this photo taken with a Panasonic camera or this one taken with a Nikon. By analogy I think it may make sense for the bot to add the ISO speed for the Canon camera too. I don't consider this a bug, since the bot need not recognize all possible metadata in all image files, I just want to make sure that you know about this behavior.
I'll note that User:Emijrpbot behaves exactly the same as SchlurcherBot here.
– b_jonas 15:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for letting me know. I currently do get the ISO speed from the Wikimedia API, i.e. from the exposed metadata. That's a subset of all. I'm currently not downloading the actual file as this was not needed. So, I guess there is no trivial solution. --Schlurcher (talk) 09:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh wow! I assumed that you're just downloading the files and extracting the metadata. I should look up how the Mediawiki software is getting the metadata then. Thank you for the answer. – b_jonas 10:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is the exact API call [8]. If for the files missing ISO one of the other attributes contains that information, I can easily fix that. Could you please also name such a file? Thanks Schlurcher (talk) 11:07, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh wow! I assumed that you're just downloading the files and extracting the metadata. I should look up how the Mediawiki software is getting the metadata then. Thank you for the answer. – b_jonas 10:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, the information about the exact API call helps me debug this. I tried this Imageinfo API call on two images with that Canon camera: [9] [10], and the information that it returns indeed contains the exposure time but not the shutter speed. – b_jonas 11:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
[11] and similar
The meta data on camera settings for any photograph from before 1990 or so is the details of the scanner, not of the photograph. As such, this is creating a lot of bad data when applied to images such as this. Can I suggest cutting out anything with dates before 1990 from this sort of metadata copying? Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Timetravel
I'm wondering if the value at [16] shouldn't be a different one. Supposedly that camera was used for copying the photo (thus in the exif).
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, these cases are tricky. I've already coded some conditions to avoid as much as possible. Any further idears? --Schlurcher (talk) 10:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Any file uploaded by Swiss_National_Library and ETH-Bibliothek is generally a digitalization/not digitally native.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 10:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC) - To find more: Special:Search/haswbstatement:P4082 CH-NB
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 07:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
- Any file uploaded by Swiss_National_Library and ETH-Bibliothek is generally a digitalization/not digitally native.