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--QICbot (talk) 05:19, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi DD,
I've chosen this from your collection (found in QIC page):
Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:Mezquita_Shah,_Isfahán,_Irán,_2016-09-20,_DD_64.jpg
I hope my choice will be successfull. Congratulations for this picture !--Jebulon (talk) 08:51, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Jebulon, thank you, again, for the nom. I also like this picture very much, but you have no clue yet what is on the upload road :) :) :) We'll have Iran for a while, that I can ensure Poco2 09:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:38, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
Iran
Wie funktioniert das im Iran? Ich habe zwar Flüge gefunden aber keine Übernachtungen. Nur zwei teure Hotels bei HRS, airbnb gibts dort scheinbar nicht. Kann man sich frei bewegen oder nur in geführten Reisegruppen? --Ralf Roleček 08:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ralf, für Flüge am besten Opodo, die amerikanischen Seiten (bspw. Expedia) "kennen" Iran nicht. Hotels ist komplizierter, dafür brauchst du ein Reisebüro vor Ort (bis auf in Teheran, da findet man schon was). Das Land ist sicher und man kann sich freigegeben, wenn man nicht auffällt (Bilder von Atomkraftwerken würde ich nicht unbedingt angehen)... Poco2 09:03, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
About this Revert [[1]]
Actually i am going to add this category here Category:Featured_pictures_by_Bijay_chaurasia. SO SORRY --Bijay chaurasia (talk) 16:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Bijay chaurasia, no worries, it was obvious that it was a mistake, that's why I just reverted, so that you get a notice Poco2 17:46, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:26, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
WLM
Poco a poco, I see your recent nomination File:Si-o-se Pol, Isfahan, Irán, 2016-09-19, DD 07-15 HDR PAN.jpg but was confused at the upload dates in October. Then I see that WLM Iran allowed till 20:29 UTC 6th October. However, you've uploaded a modification today. I don't think that is fair. The image has changed from having a dark light-polluted sky to having a blue-hour sky that is much more photogenic. The latter image wasn't "uploaded" during the photo contest period. I think you should revert that edit and consider postponing your FPC until after the competition has been judged (since clearly you'd want the FPC to be on the better version). This is not the only WLM image I'm seeing in your upload log to be edited today. Eg. File:Mezquita del Viernes, Shamakhi, Azerbaiyán, 2016-09-27, DD 16-18 HDR.jpg, File:Mausoleos de Yeddi Gumbez, Shamakhi, Azerbaiyán, 2016-09-27, DD 01-03 HDR.jpg, File:Catedral Vank, Isfahán, Irán, 2016-09-20, DD 95-97 HDR.jpg, etc, etc. Since you have a strong chance of winning, it would be troublesome if the winning entry was actually uploaded on 8th, two days after the deadline. Better to let your image take its chances with a little noise or imperfect white balance -- the judges don't tend to be such pixel peepers as FPC. -- Colin (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Colin, I'm not sure about your request. It sounds pretty hard to me having to revert improvements in pictures because of a parallel running photo contest. What is more important, improving continously the material uploaded in Commons or reverting improvements as if those pictures where frozen? To be honest, I haven't even thought about getting into trouble for uploading that kind of changes (mostly out of feedback in QIC/FPC) of an existing file (and no, I don't consider the WB change of Si-o-se Pol to be that significant). As you say, I don't think that the WLM jury are pixel peepers as we have in FPC, and therefore slight changes should be no problem. Anyhow, I will ask one of the heads of WLM about it. Regarding "you have a a strong chance of winning" I had to laugh out :) I would never consider that among 40,000 participating photographers. Poco2 18:19, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I wasn't meaning winning the whole competition, that's just too random. But I'm pretty sure you've won national competitions. Anyway, I don't interpret "Pictures must be uploaded between September 4th at 19:30 UTC and October 6th 20:29 UTC" as being ambiguous. The uploads past that date aren't eligible and I think break the rules. I do think the change to the sky is very significant and not a pixel peeping comment -- the blue sky is a clear asset for the newer version of the image and might be enough to decide in its favour. I'm not asking for a permanent revert, so I don't think this is in conflict with Commons aims. It just a consequence of running a competition on an open wiki where modifications are unrestricted. It doesn't really matter if you think the change is not significant, the rule isn't about how much a change was made, but about when the file was uploaded. That's the rules. -- Colin (talk) 18:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Colin: As a talk page watcher, may I offer my view on this? If we step back for a while, what is the reason there is a deadline? The reason is that after this time the organizers needs to know which images to screen, and how to allocate them to the jurors. If you submitted new file pages after this, this would be a practical hazzle, and very non-practical and a clear break of the rule. But if you make an update afterwards under the same file name, and it is really an edition an improvement of the same subject, I do not see the problem. You might say that if Poco originally uploaded a non-optimal edit, he has a bigger risk to be rejected in the initial screening (veeery unlikely, I have just screened a batch from a country, and I would have clapped my hands if any photo of Poco standards had been in there, non-optimally edited or not). That he later uploads an improvement just raises the overall quality level of submitted photos, and if he wins a national competition, well it is a better image which wins, and the objective of WLM should after all be to get as good as possible photos to win. You might rightfully say that the rules does not explicitly take into account or mention if new editions are allowed or not, on the other hand I actually think that the current formulation "Pictures must be uploaded between September 4th at 19:30 UTC and October 6th 20:29 UTC" could also be understood as no new files after... In my screening I have thought it would have been helpful to have a feedback mechanism to the uploaders, which allowed them to improve their uploads during the evaluation. Like: Consider an edit, which is not as heavily post-processed, or consider making a parspective or tilt correction. It would improve the media repository and the winners of the competition and maybe improve future uploads. -- Slaunger (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments Slaunger. This discussion goes in the same direction as a discussion at FPC regarding uploading new versions of an FPC during the time the nomination was open. I defended strongly the position that not allowing changes (mostly improvements) of the file during the nomination would hurdle one of the key targets of the projects, which is improving the media in the repository. I also believe that the changes we are talking about cannot be considered as new files that can only be uploaded before the end of the upload campaign. And therefore there should be new rules about not applying any changes in participating images in the contest until the results for the corresponding country has been announced. As already said, I didn't think about this kind of edits being problematic, but I am still curious about what somebody like Lily has to say about this. Poco2 21:18, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- The purpose of WLM is to attract new images of historic buildings and new users and that the quality of those images is very much not the focus of the organisation. Sure, there's a prize for the best, but there isn't a minimum threshold of quality and the general quality level is dire (hmm, it's often not great among the winners either). The phrase "improving the media in the repository" is vague. If you mean improving existing images, then I would say no, that's not really part of Commons mission, which is simply to be a repository. We aren't a collaborative work-in-progress like Wikipedia, and the number of files on Commons with > 1 upload must be within a rounding error of 0%. The files belong (mostly) to individual creators and Commons acts merely as a host for them, not as a multi-user game to improve them. Hence the message on Poco's images saying "don't touch". Sure, for the tiny group that participates cooperatively at FPC, we do help each other out and suggest improvements. But not everyone does that (e.g. Livio) and if I interpret Jebulon correctly, he's not keen on people making changes or alts during a nomination. Such changes nearly always cause some disruption, and sometimes lead to a nomination being trashed because nobody knows what version was voted on. And if someone else does the edit then people can get upset too. Not every change is an improvement either. We've seen images that are oversharpened, too heavily denoised, overprocessed, and even heavily downsized. It isn't unknown for someone (esp. newbies) to overwrite a file with a completely different image, albeit of the same subject. I just think it fairer and simpler if there is a deadline for uploads. The judges then have a fixed set of images to review. If we allow edits then where does one draw the line? Is changing an image from 3:2 to 16:9 or 1:1 crop a minor change? Is changing the colour of the sky a minor change? I'm concerned someone will get upset to see Poco's winning image was uploaded on the 8th, after the deadline, and this will tarnish the prize for no good reason. If you feel strongly that Commons mission is more about improving the images, then the image could be removed from the competition (by removing categories, informing organisers, say) -- though I'm not asking you to do this. Or you could simply wait a month and make the improvements then. As Wikipedia says, there is no rush. I'm sure there are plenty other images you could nominate at FP/QI. It would be good to clarify these rules for next year, possibly via some community discussion. -- Colin (talk) 09:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- I certainly think it is preferable if no other version is uploaded during a contest as it may give rise to confusion which version is under review. And certainly, the uploader cannot expect that it is the latest upload, which is actually being considered for the competition. Regarding the kinds of edits allowed, if done anyway COM:OVERWRITE gives some guidance, although not very clear. For me, uploading another image than shot or changing the aspect ratio significantly is too large a change, croppping a bit to remove a distrating element, perspective correcting, tilt correction, dust spot removal, gentle WB, sharpness and noise reduction adjustment are all acceptable IMO. Yes, some of these uploads may actually make the new version worse. For WLM the impact is probably marginal. Regarding FPC I see there is now a more healthy practise of most oftenly pinging previous reviewers is a new upload is available. I think that is a pragmatic compromise. The more editions you make, the more reviewers are inclined to be annoyed by the changes and object. I think this gives a good incentive to do improvements in as few updates as possible and possibly do your homework as well as possible before nominating. I am not sure we need to write all these things down in rules for WLM, as it makes them longer and harder to understand. For me, a little common sense can be applied here. Although the Wikimedia foundation may have more focus on quantity than quality, I see no reason to stop working on delivering the best, including better edits of existing file pages. -- Slaunger (talk) 12:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- For the first two years, WLM UK final stages judged only the image versions uploaded before the deadline. Because I wrote the software that provided the links to the full-size versions for them to download. There were only a few images where someone had modified afterwards, and poco was one of them IIRC. There is a danger if we openly document that minor edits are permitted after the deadline that that will actually make the problem worse and there will be lots of people editing their entries, rather than the tiny "storm in a teacup" we currently have. It might even cause someone with good intentions to edit someone else's nominations. It's more about the possible negative reaction than the actual harm. Like how many competitions exclude those who are involved -- one reason I was uncomfortable helping WLM UK in previous years though Michael made strong efforts to ensure I couldn't possibly affect the results, and I wasn't involved in final judging. I declined an invitation to WLM UK this year and like Slaunger, will be helping with Bangladesh. I'd rather people believed I won "fair and square". Not that I ever win these things. -- Colin (talk) 12:45, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't really have anything to add to this discussion and I don't consider this to be a crucial issue that needs urgent clarification. As said, I see no problem here and as you Colin confirmed from the very beginning we are talking about changes that a WLM jury will hardly notice. I'd leave the organisators to decide whether they want to take any action here in this or in future editions. If they decide to do so and in this edition I'll respect -but not share- that decision. If we start applying strict rules for everything in the project, as some would like to do also in FPC/POTY, the fun factor (and therefore motivation) will lower considerably. Poco2 13:53, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, the "judges won't notice" comment was based on some of the other links where the WB change was small, not on the one that started this. The significant improvement to the image is very noticeable in thumbnail. And I disagree that rules necessarily take the fun out. With many things in life, such as sport, having absolute clear rules at the start of the game is vital to avoid the whole thing descending into a horrible squabble. But also I agree that too many rules becomes a chore. Well, good luck with WLM anyway. -- Colin (talk) 14:38, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't really have anything to add to this discussion and I don't consider this to be a crucial issue that needs urgent clarification. As said, I see no problem here and as you Colin confirmed from the very beginning we are talking about changes that a WLM jury will hardly notice. I'd leave the organisators to decide whether they want to take any action here in this or in future editions. If they decide to do so and in this edition I'll respect -but not share- that decision. If we start applying strict rules for everything in the project, as some would like to do also in FPC/POTY, the fun factor (and therefore motivation) will lower considerably. Poco2 13:53, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- For the first two years, WLM UK final stages judged only the image versions uploaded before the deadline. Because I wrote the software that provided the links to the full-size versions for them to download. There were only a few images where someone had modified afterwards, and poco was one of them IIRC. There is a danger if we openly document that minor edits are permitted after the deadline that that will actually make the problem worse and there will be lots of people editing their entries, rather than the tiny "storm in a teacup" we currently have. It might even cause someone with good intentions to edit someone else's nominations. It's more about the possible negative reaction than the actual harm. Like how many competitions exclude those who are involved -- one reason I was uncomfortable helping WLM UK in previous years though Michael made strong efforts to ensure I couldn't possibly affect the results, and I wasn't involved in final judging. I declined an invitation to WLM UK this year and like Slaunger, will be helping with Bangladesh. I'd rather people believed I won "fair and square". Not that I ever win these things. -- Colin (talk) 12:45, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- I certainly think it is preferable if no other version is uploaded during a contest as it may give rise to confusion which version is under review. And certainly, the uploader cannot expect that it is the latest upload, which is actually being considered for the competition. Regarding the kinds of edits allowed, if done anyway COM:OVERWRITE gives some guidance, although not very clear. For me, uploading another image than shot or changing the aspect ratio significantly is too large a change, croppping a bit to remove a distrating element, perspective correcting, tilt correction, dust spot removal, gentle WB, sharpness and noise reduction adjustment are all acceptable IMO. Yes, some of these uploads may actually make the new version worse. For WLM the impact is probably marginal. Regarding FPC I see there is now a more healthy practise of most oftenly pinging previous reviewers is a new upload is available. I think that is a pragmatic compromise. The more editions you make, the more reviewers are inclined to be annoyed by the changes and object. I think this gives a good incentive to do improvements in as few updates as possible and possibly do your homework as well as possible before nominating. I am not sure we need to write all these things down in rules for WLM, as it makes them longer and harder to understand. For me, a little common sense can be applied here. Although the Wikimedia foundation may have more focus on quantity than quality, I see no reason to stop working on delivering the best, including better edits of existing file pages. -- Slaunger (talk) 12:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- The purpose of WLM is to attract new images of historic buildings and new users and that the quality of those images is very much not the focus of the organisation. Sure, there's a prize for the best, but there isn't a minimum threshold of quality and the general quality level is dire (hmm, it's often not great among the winners either). The phrase "improving the media in the repository" is vague. If you mean improving existing images, then I would say no, that's not really part of Commons mission, which is simply to be a repository. We aren't a collaborative work-in-progress like Wikipedia, and the number of files on Commons with > 1 upload must be within a rounding error of 0%. The files belong (mostly) to individual creators and Commons acts merely as a host for them, not as a multi-user game to improve them. Hence the message on Poco's images saying "don't touch". Sure, for the tiny group that participates cooperatively at FPC, we do help each other out and suggest improvements. But not everyone does that (e.g. Livio) and if I interpret Jebulon correctly, he's not keen on people making changes or alts during a nomination. Such changes nearly always cause some disruption, and sometimes lead to a nomination being trashed because nobody knows what version was voted on. And if someone else does the edit then people can get upset too. Not every change is an improvement either. We've seen images that are oversharpened, too heavily denoised, overprocessed, and even heavily downsized. It isn't unknown for someone (esp. newbies) to overwrite a file with a completely different image, albeit of the same subject. I just think it fairer and simpler if there is a deadline for uploads. The judges then have a fixed set of images to review. If we allow edits then where does one draw the line? Is changing an image from 3:2 to 16:9 or 1:1 crop a minor change? Is changing the colour of the sky a minor change? I'm concerned someone will get upset to see Poco's winning image was uploaded on the 8th, after the deadline, and this will tarnish the prize for no good reason. If you feel strongly that Commons mission is more about improving the images, then the image could be removed from the competition (by removing categories, informing organisers, say) -- though I'm not asking you to do this. Or you could simply wait a month and make the improvements then. As Wikipedia says, there is no rush. I'm sure there are plenty other images you could nominate at FP/QI. It would be good to clarify these rules for next year, possibly via some community discussion. -- Colin (talk) 09:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments Slaunger. This discussion goes in the same direction as a discussion at FPC regarding uploading new versions of an FPC during the time the nomination was open. I defended strongly the position that not allowing changes (mostly improvements) of the file during the nomination would hurdle one of the key targets of the projects, which is improving the media in the repository. I also believe that the changes we are talking about cannot be considered as new files that can only be uploaded before the end of the upload campaign. And therefore there should be new rules about not applying any changes in participating images in the contest until the results for the corresponding country has been announced. As already said, I didn't think about this kind of edits being problematic, but I am still curious about what somebody like Lily has to say about this. Poco2 21:18, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Colin: As a talk page watcher, may I offer my view on this? If we step back for a while, what is the reason there is a deadline? The reason is that after this time the organizers needs to know which images to screen, and how to allocate them to the jurors. If you submitted new file pages after this, this would be a practical hazzle, and very non-practical and a clear break of the rule. But if you make an update afterwards under the same file name, and it is really an edition an improvement of the same subject, I do not see the problem. You might say that if Poco originally uploaded a non-optimal edit, he has a bigger risk to be rejected in the initial screening (veeery unlikely, I have just screened a batch from a country, and I would have clapped my hands if any photo of Poco standards had been in there, non-optimally edited or not). That he later uploads an improvement just raises the overall quality level of submitted photos, and if he wins a national competition, well it is a better image which wins, and the objective of WLM should after all be to get as good as possible photos to win. You might rightfully say that the rules does not explicitly take into account or mention if new editions are allowed or not, on the other hand I actually think that the current formulation "Pictures must be uploaded between September 4th at 19:30 UTC and October 6th 20:29 UTC" could also be understood as no new files after... In my screening I have thought it would have been helpful to have a feedback mechanism to the uploaders, which allowed them to improve their uploads during the evaluation. Like: Consider an edit, which is not as heavily post-processed, or consider making a parspective or tilt correction. It would improve the media repository and the winners of the competition and maybe improve future uploads. -- Slaunger (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I wasn't meaning winning the whole competition, that's just too random. But I'm pretty sure you've won national competitions. Anyway, I don't interpret "Pictures must be uploaded between September 4th at 19:30 UTC and October 6th 20:29 UTC" as being ambiguous. The uploads past that date aren't eligible and I think break the rules. I do think the change to the sky is very significant and not a pixel peeping comment -- the blue sky is a clear asset for the newer version of the image and might be enough to decide in its favour. I'm not asking for a permanent revert, so I don't think this is in conflict with Commons aims. It just a consequence of running a competition on an open wiki where modifications are unrestricted. It doesn't really matter if you think the change is not significant, the rule isn't about how much a change was made, but about when the file was uploaded. That's the rules. -- Colin (talk) 18:36, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi dear PaP !
Happy to send this to you.
"And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's" (king James Bible)
--Jebulon (talk) 08:54, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- ...and to God the things that are God's :) Thank you Jebulon, I have to say that I probably hadn't proposed that picture to FP by myself, therefore a bunch of merit is also yours! Best, Poco2 10:02, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry if I didn't dare to end the quote: I agree you could be a kind of Caesar among us, but God... About the picture: as said, I had mercy on you, because of your poor successes in FPC... loooool ! Thanks for sharing with us the marvels you meet all around the world, and provide us so often ! Spy seems to be a good job !--Jebulon (talk) 15:43, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
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--QICbot (talk) 05:28, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Campaign editor needed
Hola Diego, he seguido tus andanzas medioorientales en Facebook. Vaya viaje :-)
Rubén me pidió que hiciera las estadísticas de WLM y no pude negarme (aunque no sean lo que yo hubiese querido). Hemos detectado que se siguen subiendo imágenes en WLM y sospecho que es por esto. Creo que habría que revertirlo. Un abrazo --Discasto talk 18:49, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hola compañero, ya lo he corregido, el caso es que lo olvidé completamente. Me pongo a eliminar la plantilla de WLM a las subidas de la campaña fuera del plazo de WLM. Un abrazo! Poco2 07:38, 15 October 2016 (UTC) PD: Sí, el viaje fue estupendo, salió todo como estaba planeado y he podido visitar muchos sitios interesantes.
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--QICbot (talk) 05:30, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
It seems that this photo has been chosen POTD twice ({{Potd/2016-10-22}} and {{Potd/2017-03-11}}), but you have inserted only one {{Picture of the day}} into the file description page. Is it a mistake or the photo actually has been chosen twice? --jdx Re: 19:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Jdx, thanks for letting me know, no, of course, each picture can only be once in the first page, that was a mistake. A replace the one in november with a different FP. Thanks, Poco2 19:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hallo! Das Bild habe ich schon einmal bei QI positiv bewertet, aber da ist ein störender Staubfleck am oberen Rand. Es wäre toll, wenn du ihn noch entfernen könntest. Danke! --XRay talk 07:02, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hallo XRay, vielen Dank für den Hinweis! Schon erledigt. Viele Grüsse, --Poco2 09:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
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Herzlichen Dank für Deine WLM-Fotos
Hallo Poco a poco,
mit Freude habe ich während der WLM-Vorjury Deine Fotos wahrgenommen und 5 davon für die Gestaltung von Kalenderpostern genutzt, die seit Freitag im Druck sind. Wir werden diese den Besuchern unseres Messestandes auf der Denkmalmesse in Leipzig Anfang November geben, die dadurch gewiss einen schönen Eindruck vom Engagement der ehrenamtlich tätigen Wikipedianer für die Pflege des kulturellen Erbes bekommen werden.
Herzlichen Dank und Gruss von Bernd Gross -- Bridge (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
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Windmühlen in Deutschland
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Kulturdenkmale aus der Vogelperspektive
- Hallo Bernd, vielen Dank für deine Meldung. Es freut mich, dass die 2 Tagen in Berlin (besser gesagt, 2 Nächte, dass ich mit der Kamera unterwegs war) so gut angekommen sind. Lustigerweise hatte ich auch hier im Projekt von meinem Berlin-Besuch 2 Bilder als FP ausgezeichnet bekommen ([:File:Ayuntamiento Rojo, Berlín, Alemania, 2016-04-22, DD 37-39 HDR.jpg|1], [:File:Museo Bode, Berlín, Alemania, 2016-04-22, DD 30-Edit.jpg|2]), aber die finde ich nicht im Kalender und andersrum. Viele Grüsse, Poco2 16:13, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
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WLM 2016: Glückwunsch!
Hallo! Herzlichen Glückwunsch zur Platzierung und dem tollen Bild! Schön, dass wir uns persönlich kennen lernen können. Ich freue mich. --XRay talk 20:24, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Danke XRay! Persönlich kennen lernen, wäre schöne aber uf, mal gucken, das wird nicht so einfach an dem Freitag, ich müsste ungeplant blau von der Arbeit machen, denn die Fahrt aus München ist laaaang --Poco2 20:32, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
- Den Glückwünschen schließe ich mich an! Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn wir uns mal kennenlernen könnten. Ich werde zur Preisverleihung sicherlich da sein, aber ich habe es ja auch nicht so weit. --Code (talk) 12:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Code: ich werde es wohl dann ermöglichen müssen :) Poco2 12:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Den Glückwünschen schließe ich mich an! Ich würde mich sehr freuen, wenn wir uns mal kennenlernen könnten. Ich werde zur Preisverleihung sicherlich da sein, aber ich habe es ja auch nicht so weit. --Code (talk) 12:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Mausoleum of Emir Ali, Shiraz
Hi, Diego. I've been trying to figure out which of your series of photos of this amazing mausoleum is best. Do you plan on nominating some for FP? I'm liking this one. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:26, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Ikan, thank you for your message! Yes, that mausoleum was an amazing place. The bottom crop of the picture you suggest is though too tight at the bottom. I have to check why that. If there is no solution for that I'd prefer File:Mausoleo de Emir Ali, Shiraz, Irán, 2016-09-24, DD 27-29 HDR.jpg or this one: File:Mausoleo de Emir Ali, Shiraz, Irán, 2016-09-24, DD 21-23 HDR.jpg, that you already promoted in QIC. I like the second better but some will complain about the perspective, I could correct it. I'll check this evening whether I can improve the crop of your fav and let you know. To be honest, I've a bunch of picture that, I believe, are FPs (have you seen the last uploads from Armenia? :) ), and people like you keep telling me that QIC could be FPCs :) I am happy if I get some help to give all those pictures a try at FPC. Poco2 11:38, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- I haven't seen your pictures from Armenia yet. More to look forward to! Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan, I checked the file you suggested and I don't see a way to improve it without editing it heavily. You may of course propose it to FPC or consider any of my proposals. Thank you anyhow! Poco2 20:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Certainly. I think that some photo of that mausoleum would be good to nominate at some point. I'll leave it to your judgment to consider which one would be best. I have some other pictures by you on my list of possible nominees. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, Ikan, then, as said, my fav for FP would be File:Mausoleo de Emir Ali, Shiraz, Irán, 2016-09-24, DD 21-23 HDR.jpg Poco2 06:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Got it. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:09, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, Ikan, then, as said, my fav for FP would be File:Mausoleo de Emir Ali, Shiraz, Irán, 2016-09-24, DD 21-23 HDR.jpg Poco2 06:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Certainly. I think that some photo of that mausoleum would be good to nominate at some point. I'll leave it to your judgment to consider which one would be best. I have some other pictures by you on my list of possible nominees. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ikan, I checked the file you suggested and I don't see a way to improve it without editing it heavily. You may of course propose it to FPC or consider any of my proposals. Thank you anyhow! Poco2 20:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- I haven't seen your pictures from Armenia yet. More to look forward to! Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
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Re:Categorization of Armenian images
No problem. As you know, I uploaded lots of images from Georgia and Armenia and because of that I was (and still I am) interesting of your images from that region. You can look to my images from that region, maybe they can help you to change or fulfill descriptions and categories of your images. From what I saw, your images with description Samtavro Monastery (they are here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Samtavro_Monastery) are not from that place - that should be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetitskhoveli_Cathedral and images should be placed here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Svetitskhoveli. Please change filenames and description just as I did here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monasterio_de_Samtavro,_Miskheta,_Georgia,_2016-09-29,_DD_52.jpg And yes, I'm travelling a lot, but I've got a problem here on Commons to upload all my images, there is no time to do that. Next trip on November-December 2016: Myanmar and Thailand and little bit Malaysia:) Regards and of course thanks for your good work here on Commons! --Halavar (talk) 16:10, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- True, that moves are pending, thanks for your hint. Will take care of that today. As for me I'll not do big travels until next year, it is time to work a bit :) Also thank you for your great work here! Poco2 16:15, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- File names and descriptions are now corrected Poco2 16:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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Fotowettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments 2016 in Deutschland
Hallo,
hiermit möchte ich Dir im Namen der Jury zu Deiner erfolgreichen Teilnahme am diesjährigen Denkmal-Fotowettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments in Deutschland ganz herzlich gratulieren.
Insgesamt wurden in diesem Jahr rund 39.000 Bilder von deutschen Bau- und Kulturdenkmalen hochgeladen und für die Bebilderung von Artikeln und Listen in der Wikipedia zur Verfügung gestellt. Aus dieser großen Zahl heraus erreichten Deine obigen tollen Fotos Plätze unter den Top 100 – ein Erfolg, der dementsprechend hoch einzuschätzen ist.
Die 100 Bilder aller Preisträgerinnen und Preisträger kannst Du Dir hier anschauen.
Ich hoffe, dass der Wettbewerb Dir mindestens ebenso viel Freude bereitet hat wie uns. Auf ein Wiedersehen im Jahr 2017!
i. A. --Nicola (talk) 06:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
FP potential
Hi poco a poco,
you wrote that the Volbeat pic should have FP potential with a better crop - can you suggest a better crop? I think, @MarkusFelix: will noto oppose on another crop version if it makes the pic better in quality. For me personally I like the security guy at the right corner since these guys a crucial for festival photographers and their faces are great - but I also can understand that this is typical view for people being in the pit ... All the best, -- Achim Raschka (talk) 11:30, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hallo Achim, ich sehe 2 Möglichkeiten, entweder einen neuen Ausschnitt (dazu habe ich eine Notiz im Bild eingefügt) oder, etwas aufwändiger, editieren und die 2 Personen in der rechten unteren Ecke ausklonen. Sicher erfüllen sie ein wichtige Rolle in einem Konzert, aber, sie, insbesondere der mit dem fluorescenten Trikot, lenken halt die Aufmerksamkeit im Bild ab. Gruß, Poco2 14:25, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Den Ausschnitt finde ich vollkommen o.k., wobei ich ihn etwas tiefer ansetzen und die Schuhsohle noch vollständig reinnehemn würde. Damit Markus auch weiß, um welches Bild es geht: File:20160607 Berlin Volbeat Volbeat 0393.jpg. Gruß -- Achim Raschka (talk) 14:33, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Das geht auch, Achim, letztendlich ist es eure Wahl, Gruß, Poco2 15:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- So hab das mal angepasst und auch noch den leichten Grünstich entfernt - macht tatsächlich einiges mehr her so, danke für die Anmerkung dazu. -- MarkusFelix (talk) 14:24, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Super, viel Glück mit der Nominierung, Markus! Poco2 16:01, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- So hab das mal angepasst und auch noch den leichten Grünstich entfernt - macht tatsächlich einiges mehr her so, danke für die Anmerkung dazu. -- MarkusFelix (talk) 14:24, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Das geht auch, Achim, letztendlich ist es eure Wahl, Gruß, Poco2 15:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
- Den Ausschnitt finde ich vollkommen o.k., wobei ich ihn etwas tiefer ansetzen und die Schuhsohle noch vollständig reinnehemn würde. Damit Markus auch weiß, um welches Bild es geht: File:20160607 Berlin Volbeat Volbeat 0393.jpg. Gruß -- Achim Raschka (talk) 14:33, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Diego,
Could you explain what "captive" means in the English description of this file? Was the photo taken in a zoo? Or, perhaps, did you mean "captured"? --jdx Re: 10:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Jdx, it was not a zoo but something similar. It was a guy who keep a row of birds captive and expose them with the hope that people take pictures with them and donate some money. What would be the best description for that?. I had assumed that captive is kind of the opposite from free. Poco2 10:34, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I just asked because nothing on the photo indicates that the eagle lives in captivity, blurred background looks like an open space. Anyway, IMO the desctiption should be "Close-up of an exemplar of captive golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) taken in…" or, IMO better, "Close-up of a captive golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) taken in…". But I am far from being fluent in English… --jdx Re: 11:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Jdx: ok, I updated the description following your advice, thanks! Poco2 12:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I just asked because nothing on the photo indicates that the eagle lives in captivity, blurred background looks like an open space. Anyway, IMO the desctiption should be "Close-up of an exemplar of captive golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) taken in…" or, IMO better, "Close-up of a captive golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) taken in…". But I am far from being fluent in English… --jdx Re: 11:37, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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