User talk:Александр Мотин
Фотографии с kremlin.ru
[edit]К сожалению, условия их использования не соответствуют Commons:Licensing. Из условия никак не вытекает возможность создания любых производных работ. С просьбами о разъяснении надо обращаться к kremlin.ru. Смотрите также Commons:Deletion requests/License tags of russian websites. --EugeneZelenko 14:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
К сожалению, несмотря на свободный статус, такая фотография невозможна на коммонз - она является производной работой при отсутствии свободы панорамы. Alex Spade 17:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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The Brussels stock exchange is not La Bourse/De Beurs
[edit]Please don't move as they are not the same. --Foroa (talk) 22:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Please note that most stock exhanges should be written with lower case as they are not proper names. --Foroa (talk) 23:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Could you rename all categories if have a bot?--Александр Мотин (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Victory Day
[edit]Hello Alexander!
Do you live in Moscow? If yes: Are you in Moscow on May 9th, 2009. In that the Victory Day military parade takes place in Moscow. If you have time, could you please take some photos of the vehicles and upload them to Commons? After you have uploaded them, you can contact me, I help you to categorize the photos. Would be great, if it works! Best regards --High Contrast (talk) 07:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hello! I`ll try ;)--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks. As I stated: you can contact me on my talk page on Commons and I help out! Greets, High Contrast (talk) 07:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: File:Lot Morrill, Brady-Handy photo portrait, ca1865-1880.jpg
[edit]Hello. It looks like the Library of Congress P&P catalog is down, so none of the images tagged with template:LOC-image will work. That happens occasionally, so try again in a few hours. --Tom (talk - email) 16:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Alright! Thanks for your reply--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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Tip: Categorizing images
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--ZooFari 04:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Your Flickr uploads
[edit]Hello Александр!
Thanks a lot for your contributions! Thank you for transferring images from Flickr to Commons! Two hints ahead:
- Always upload the highest resolution of a photograph that is available on flickr
- You can use this tool for your flickr uploads. It makes the hole procedure much easier and faster for you!
Thank you for your support! Greets, High Contrast (talk) 20:38, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
If you upload images from flickr you must insert {{flickrreview}}. All flickr images must be checked by trusted users or administrators and this certain tag makes this possible. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. --High Contrast (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Again, you forgot the {{flickrreview}}-tag in your uploads. This tag is essential! This tag must be put in all uploaded flockr images. Do not vandalize by not tagging your uploads! --High Contrast (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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IngerAlHaosului (talk) 09:06, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!
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—RP88 14:32, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Категории
[edit]Приветствую! Заметил, что в ваших последних фотографиях Москвы вы проставляете только категорию улицы. По возможности, старайтесь ставить хотя бы две категории, которые бы отвечали на вопросы "Что?" и "Где?". То есть фото церкви на Саранской улице желательно как минимум поместить в категорию "Церкви в Москве" и "Саранская улица". Так же и с другими изображениями. --Stolbovsky (talk) 09:17, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
- Хорошо, постараюсь. Спасибо за замечание.--Александр Мотин (talk) 15:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
This file is missing the source link. lNeverCry 04:18, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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- @Ww2censor: These come from a Russian government website and are freely-licensed. See {{Mos.ru}}. lNeverCry 20:26, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I reviewed the website but could not find any copyright statements of any find, but if you say so, I'm ok with that. Ww2censor (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: If you scroll to the bottom of https://www.mos.ru/ you'll see the CC license in light blue on the left. lNeverCry 20:54, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: "All materials are available under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license. If you use the materials please acknowledge the source and provide a link to the portal." https://www.mos.ru/en/ --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- I've tried several times and with different browsers to load this site but it does not load for me, except once before I nominated it for deletion. If this link https://www.mos.ru/en/ shows the CC license it would be preferable to have it in the permission fields of the {{Information}} template, so reviewers, who cannot find the license easily on the website, have a direct link to it in future. Thanks for the info. Ww2censor (talk) 10:47, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: "All materials are available under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license. If you use the materials please acknowledge the source and provide a link to the portal." https://www.mos.ru/en/ --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:40, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Ww2censor: If you scroll to the bottom of https://www.mos.ru/ you'll see the CC license in light blue on the left. lNeverCry 20:54, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I reviewed the website but could not find any copyright statements of any find, but if you say so, I'm ok with that. Ww2censor (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Александр, здравствуйте! Скажите, пожалуйста, откуда вы брали цвет заливки для указанного файла? Просто в рувикипедийном модуле используется другой цвет, и хотелось бы привести их к единому виду. --Michgrig (talk) 16:49, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
- Привет, Michgrig! Цвет выбрал примерно. Конечно, его надо (было) привести к единому виду с тем, что в АИ. Спасибо.--Александр Мотин (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- Переделаете? --Michgrig (talk) 21:55, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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Flickr2Commons
[edit]I have just come across a few images you have recently uploaded from Flickr. I would appreciate it if in the future, you used the Flickr2Commons tool. This tool allows images to be moved to Commons from Flickr without having to download the images to your own computer. It also brings in the largest resolution of the image, as well making sure to list the correct license and url, making it easy for the automated Flickr Review system. Also, it is fairly easy to categorize images with this tool. To use it, you just need to go to the url and authorize it (where it says "authorise first"). Elisfkc (talk) 15:44, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
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Yours sincerely, A.Savin 22:43, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Hello, why all files are offered for deletion? Did you really check their attribution? TASS is a state unitary enterprise. "The assets of unitary enterprises belong to the federal government" (Per WP — Unitary enterprise). That means that exclusive copyright belongs to the federal government of Russia and not to the original author (photographer). So you mean that Russian President Office violated exclusive copyright of the Federal Government of Russia? It is funny because the website of the Russian President states "All content on this site is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International". --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:31, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Прошёлся по вашим правкам, из них следует, что вы немного понимаете по-русски, так что позволю себе ответить на великом и могучем. Во-первых, для иллюстраций с сайта Кремля используется шаблон {{Kremlin.ru}}, без него они удаляются. Во-вторых, автор вышеупомянутых изображений не пресс-служба Кремля, а ТАСС, а оно никогда и в жизни не распространяло свои материалы под CC-SA(-BY). Зайдите на COM:Форум, это сейчас там как раз обсуждается. Ну и в-третьих, вся эта история с Kremlin.ru есть ни что иное как большое отмывание лицензий, ибо авторами фотографий являются их фотографы, а не некая пресс-служба Кремля. Надеюсь дожить до того дня, когда весь этот кремлёвский фотохлам наконец-то снесут с викисклада. --A.Savin 13:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Привет. Понял, но пока не согласен. Загляну туда.--Александр Мотин (talk) 14:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Прошёлся по вашим правкам, из них следует, что вы немного понимаете по-русски, так что позволю себе ответить на великом и могучем. Во-первых, для иллюстраций с сайта Кремля используется шаблон {{Kremlin.ru}}, без него они удаляются. Во-вторых, автор вышеупомянутых изображений не пресс-служба Кремля, а ТАСС, а оно никогда и в жизни не распространяло свои материалы под CC-SA(-BY). Зайдите на COM:Форум, это сейчас там как раз обсуждается. Ну и в-третьих, вся эта история с Kremlin.ru есть ни что иное как большое отмывание лицензий, ибо авторами фотографий являются их фотографы, а не некая пресс-служба Кремля. Надеюсь дожить до того дня, когда весь этот кремлёвский фотохлам наконец-то снесут с викисклада. --A.Savin 13:34, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Я присоединил Category:Streets in Moscow Oblast by name (flat list) к тому же обсуждению. --Kaganer (talk) 10:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Переименования категорий
[edit]Переименования категорий осуществляются с помощью кнопки "переименовать", а не создания категории с нуля под новым именем. --A.Savin 10:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Хорошо.--Александр Мотин (talk) 10:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Могу ли я вас попросить удалить уменьшенные дубликаты по результатам обсуждения здесь: User talk:Roman Kubanskiy? Так долго получится для каждого файла искать дубликат, а вы наверное можете сразу удалить дубликаты с пометкой.--Александр Мотин (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Непонятные переименования категорий и непонятное добавление префикса "Moscow". Если ориентация на русскую Википедию - так вот, статье Варшавское шоссе (историческая дорога) соответствует категория Category:Warsaw highway, а по дороге в Подольске вообще статья не создана и категория на Викискладе не создана и надобность несозданного дизамбига Category:Varshavskoye Highway нулевая. Поэтому нет оснований переименовывать первоначальную категорию. Тоже самое по Дмитровскому шоссе, статья об автодороге "Дмитровское шоссе" называется А104 (автодорога)}. Соответственно, нет никакой надобности в переименовании первоначальной категории Category:Dmitrovskoye Highway Пожалуйста, воздержитесь от дальнейшего переименования дальнейших категорий. Также хочу добавить, что вашим правкам по категориям на Викискладе, мягко говоря, не рады. Brateevsky {talk} 07:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Я вроде бы указывал, что переименование сделано для разрешения неоднозначности. Странно, что вы не смогли самостоятельно разобраться. Например, "Варшавское шоссе" есть еще и в Рославле, и в Медыни. Кроме того, в карточке в русской Википедии и на Викиданных указано, что описываемое там "Варшавское шоссе" является адресообразующим объектом в Москве, а не где-то еще. Думаю вам следует более точно и тщательно сформулировать вашу аргументацию, чтобы ваша просьба ко мне была обоснованной и убедительной. Что касается последнего, то, пожалуйста, укажите ники этих участников Викисклада, чтобы ваше утверждение не было голословным. Буду рад ответить на дополнительные вопросы если таковые у вас остались.--Александр Мотин (talk) 08:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Например, "Варшавское шоссе" есть еще и в Рославле, и в Медыне." - допустим, есть, так и что? Пока категории нет, смысла в переименовании нет никакого. Категорию на Викискладе необходимо переименовывать при двух условиях: 1) есть две категории с одноимённым названием, 2) соответствующие объекты в Википедии (в данном случае - русскоязычной) имеют примерно схожий "вес" в узнаваемости. Что по Варшавскому шоссе, что по Дмитровскому ни 1 ни 2 условие не выполняются. В обоих случаях категория без префикса "Moscow" однозначно будет указывать на оба шоссе в Москве, и это правильно. Аргументация-то в общем, на поверхности, тут не нужно придумывать что-то сверхъестественное, тут обычный здравый смысл. Поэтому такие переименования, конечно, технически возможны, но с человеческой точки зрения - бесполезны. Даже если условные категории по Рославлю и Медыне будут, сначала они создаются, а потом происходит переименование. И то, без префикса даже в такой ситуации можно вполне обойтись, Варшавское шоссе в Москве на порядок более известнее, чем обычная дорога в населённом пункте вне Москвы. Полагаю, что тот же участник A.Savin, возможно, подтвердит мою версию (в любом случае его комментарий будет полезен, заодно, быть может, он скажет, что он вообще думает о данной системе переименований категорий по московским улицам и др.улицам в принципе). Brateevsky {talk} 09:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Проблема в том, что вы не ссылаетесь на какое-либо правило Commons. Было бы нагляднее если бы вы это сделали. Ну и, полагаю, вы можете обратиться еще и к Kaganer, чтобы узнать и его ответ касательно "бесполезных" переименований [1]. Предлагаю вам всё же воспользоваться функцией, о которой я вам напомнил ниже. В крайнем случае, можно продолжить тему по улицам на Форуме.--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, видимо данный участник собирается закладывать аналогичные категории для всех городов и деревень, где данное шоссе проходит. Это, безусловно, никак не помогает юзабилити категорий на Викискладе. Ещё следует обратить внимание на чрезмерную склонность участника к сутяжничеству, за что он, собственно, и получил бессрочку в русской википедии. Долго нянчиться с ним здесь я тоже не намерен. --A.Savin 10:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Вижу возразить тебе нечем. --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Братеевский уже достаточно ясно изложил, в чём проблемы с вашими массовыми правками, а у вас недавно уже был здесь эпический фейл с "by name (flat list)". Насколько я помню, на "ты" мы с вами не переходили. --A.Savin 10:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ничего ясного в изложении не увидел. Особенно с учетом приведенной правки Kaganer. Ведь в противном случае была бы приведена ссылка на правило Commons, а с этим, как видно, проблемы. Так хотя бы я, наконец, смог бы понять, что за "префикс" коллега имеет в виду. Ну а про "эпик-фейл" всё гиперболизировано от начала и до конца.--Александр Мотин (talk) 11:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: В контексте ваших непонятных и необоснованных претензий выше возник вопрос: с какой целью вы создали категорию Category:Volokolamskoye Highway (Moscow Oblast)? --Александр Мотин (talk) 08:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Это было давно
лет семнадцать назад. Возможно потому, что в русской вики две отдельные статьи, в отличие от Варшавского. Почему так -- спрашивайте тамошних авторов. --A.Savin 12:36, 17 July 2022 (UTC)- Ну так и вы спрашивайте у тамошних авторов почему Варшавское и Дмитровское шоссе указаны как улицы Москвы вместо необоснованных претензий и нелепых угроз блокировкой.--Александр Мотин (talk) 12:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Зачем мне их спрашивать, я и сам знаю, что часть Варшавского и часть Дмитровского шоссе расположены в Москве. --A.Savin 12:54, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ну так и вы спрашивайте у тамошних авторов почему Варшавское и Дмитровское шоссе указаны как улицы Москвы вместо необоснованных претензий и нелепых угроз блокировкой.--Александр Мотин (talk) 12:44, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Это было давно
- @Brateevsky: Ну и от вас жду комментариев по созданной A.Savin категории Category:Volokolamskoye Highway (Moscow Oblast).--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Братеевский уже достаточно ясно изложил, в чём проблемы с вашими массовыми правками, а у вас недавно уже был здесь эпический фейл с "by name (flat list)". Насколько я помню, на "ты" мы с вами не переходили. --A.Savin 10:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Вижу возразить тебе нечем. --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, видимо данный участник собирается закладывать аналогичные категории для всех городов и деревень, где данное шоссе проходит. Это, безусловно, никак не помогает юзабилити категорий на Викискладе. Ещё следует обратить внимание на чрезмерную склонность участника к сутяжничеству, за что он, собственно, и получил бессрочку в русской википедии. Долго нянчиться с ним здесь я тоже не намерен. --A.Savin 10:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- И все-таки укажите ники участников Викисклада, о которых вы говорили выше, либо дезавуируйте ваше агрессивное высказывание.--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Проблема в том, что вы не ссылаетесь на какое-либо правило Commons. Было бы нагляднее если бы вы это сделали. Ну и, полагаю, вы можете обратиться еще и к Kaganer, чтобы узнать и его ответ касательно "бесполезных" переименований [1]. Предлагаю вам всё же воспользоваться функцией, о которой я вам напомнил ниже. В крайнем случае, можно продолжить тему по улицам на Форуме.--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Например, "Варшавское шоссе" есть еще и в Рославле, и в Медыне." - допустим, есть, так и что? Пока категории нет, смысла в переименовании нет никакого. Категорию на Викискладе необходимо переименовывать при двух условиях: 1) есть две категории с одноимённым названием, 2) соответствующие объекты в Википедии (в данном случае - русскоязычной) имеют примерно схожий "вес" в узнаваемости. Что по Варшавскому шоссе, что по Дмитровскому ни 1 ни 2 условие не выполняются. В обоих случаях категория без префикса "Moscow" однозначно будет указывать на оба шоссе в Москве, и это правильно. Аргументация-то в общем, на поверхности, тут не нужно придумывать что-то сверхъестественное, тут обычный здравый смысл. Поэтому такие переименования, конечно, технически возможны, но с человеческой точки зрения - бесполезны. Даже если условные категории по Рославлю и Медыне будут, сначала они создаются, а потом происходит переименование. И то, без префикса даже в такой ситуации можно вполне обойтись, Варшавское шоссе в Москве на порядок более известнее, чем обычная дорога в населённом пункте вне Москвы. Полагаю, что тот же участник A.Savin, возможно, подтвердит мою версию (в любом случае его комментарий будет полезен, заодно, быть может, он скажет, что он вообще думает о данной системе переименований категорий по московским улицам и др.улицам в принципе). Brateevsky {talk} 09:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- На всякий случай напомню вам о возможности выносить категории на обсуждение COM:CFD.--Александр Мотин (talk) 08:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism warning
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A.Savin 01:32, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Ещё и в режиме войны правок, хотя консенсуса на форуме по этому поводу не было [2]. --A.Savin 01:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Good morning! :) Fabrication of the grounds for blocking is the reason for the removal of the administrator status.--Александр Мотин (talk) 05:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- As well as an indefinite block on two active Wikimedia projects is a reason for global ban, by the way. Especially if the same trolling is being continued on an other project. Regards --A.Savin 11:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see any diff with proof of vandalism, by the way. As soon as you present this proof we can continue the discussion. P.S. If the blockings you mentioned were not fabricated, then the discussion on Meta would have been started a long time ago :) I should remind you that for fabricating the grounds for indefinite blocking against me, one administrator of the Russian Wikipedia had already lost his status and still cannot return it in any way. I don't think you're tempted by that prospect, are you? That's why evidence is needed to take your threats seriously. --Александр Мотин (talk) 11:27, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Давайте всё же вернёмся на Викисклад, где мы, собственно, и находимся вроде бы. Я правильно понял, что вы и далее будете проталкивать вашу повестку с "Streets in ... by name (flat list)", по которой нет консенсуса? --A.Savin 11:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- How can I POV-push something if there is a discussion going on now and we are waiting for the outcome?--Александр Мотин (talk) 11:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Давайте всё же вернёмся на Викисклад, где мы, собственно, и находимся вроде бы. Я правильно понял, что вы и далее будете проталкивать вашу повестку с "Streets in ... by name (flat list)", по которой нет консенсуса? --A.Savin 11:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see any diff with proof of vandalism, by the way. As soon as you present this proof we can continue the discussion. P.S. If the blockings you mentioned were not fabricated, then the discussion on Meta would have been started a long time ago :) I should remind you that for fabricating the grounds for indefinite blocking against me, one administrator of the Russian Wikipedia had already lost his status and still cannot return it in any way. I don't think you're tempted by that prospect, are you? That's why evidence is needed to take your threats seriously. --Александр Мотин (talk) 11:27, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- As well as an indefinite block on two active Wikimedia projects is a reason for global ban, by the way. Especially if the same trolling is being continued on an other project. Regards --A.Savin 11:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Категории районов Москвы
[edit]Не нужно переименовывать категории и давать им глупые названия типа Category:Orekhovo-Borisovo Yuzhnoye District. Префикс District здесь не нужен совершенно от слова "совсем" - статья на русском называется Орехово-Борисово Южное, без всякого уточнения "район". В требованиях по наименованию совершенно нет пункта, что статья должна называться один в один с названием в английской Википедии. Пример: Москворечье-Сабурово -> Moskvorechye-Saburovo District -> Category:Moskvorechye-Saburovo. Я бы даже сказал наоборот, в Английской Википедии нужно убрать эти глупые префиксы. совершенно Пожалуйста, прекратите делать сомнительные правки по московской тематике на Викискладе. Вы реально мешаете всем русскоязычным участникам, в том числе и мне, заниматься ей. Категории я со временем переименую. Brateevsky {talk} 08:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- У меня как минимум с Kaganer другое мнение.[3] Направьте пожалуйста свои агрессивные нападки в сторону обсуждения на COM:CFD. Мое мнение совпадает с мнениями опытных участников касательно этих категорий. Инициируйте процедуру CFD для категории Category:Tverskoy District (Moscow), которую переименовал Павел, а там посмотрим насколько хватит ваших аргументов. P.S. А "все русскоязычные участники" это кто конкретно? Вы их официальный представитель? --Александр Мотин (talk) 08:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- По поводу «Тверской» ошибки нет, аргументировать этим примером не очень хорошо, потому что именно наименование «Тверской район» есть не только в Москве. Инициировать процедуру CFD я не буду — вы тоже сейчас переименовывали без неё, тут все равны, каждый может переименовать. Спасибо, конечно, что «подкинули» мне дофига работы. Знаете мы не в суде (а вы за все много лет в проектах Викимедиа вы ведёте себя, именно как будто вы находитесь там), давайте вы тоже вашу агрессию направите куда-нибудь, кроме Википедии и Викисклада. Я понял, что вы меня не услышали. Я предупредил. Ну что ж, в будущем я буду договариваться с другими русскоязычными администраторами, чтобы вы не мешали мне уже физически и технически править. В русской и английской Википедиях вы заблокированы, и я считаю это решение верным, и буду за него, если попробуете оспорить. --Brateevsky {talk} 08:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- А с какой работой вам нужно помочь? --Александр Мотин (talk) 08:57, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Как минимум - не мешать мне, а как максимум — убрать эти префиксы «District», где они не нужны. Ладно, начнём с минимума сначала. --Brateevsky {talk} 09:00, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Districts of the Czech Republic--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- А причём тут Чехия? Я про Москву говорю. Ладно, вы меня не понимаете, я всё сказал; мы не находим общий язык. Если что-то не поняли, — проблемы будут не у меня. Пока вернул категории, чтобы файлы не ссылались в пустоту. --Brateevsky {talk} 09:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ну это как минимум показывает, что чешскоговорящее сообщество Викисклада пока тоже не в курсе предложенных вами новаций в правилах и политиках касательно именования категорий, на которых вы настаиваете. Ну вот из Московской области пример — Category:Districts of Moscow Oblast.--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:18, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Я в целом понимаю, что вы имеете в виду. Например, если взять Category:Districts of Prague, то мы можем увидеть, что районы Праги не имеют слова District в своем названии. Этому может быть ряд причин. И английской Википедией это подтверждается (w:Category:Districts of Prague). Однако, мы с вами видим, что в отношении районов Москвы сложилась совершенно другая практика в английской Википедии (w:Category:Districts of Moscow). И для этого тоже есть веские причины. Таким образом, предложение: почему бы тогда вам не начать с английской Википедии и выяснить там этот вопрос для начала? Если будут озвучены и применены аргументы против слова District в названиях районов, то также сделаем и здесь. Идёт?--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:30, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, здорово, что поняли. Согласно правилам Викисклада, категории должны называться в целом на английском языке. Однако при этом они не должны ориентироваться на названия в Английской Википедии, и не должны копировать названия один в один. Это вредная практика по переименованию, и наводить какую-то систематизацию в этом случае бессмысленно. Английская Википедия - не авторитет для Викисклада. Уж скорее Русская Википедия - авторитет в плане названий в России, где русский язык ещё сто лет будет государственным. Я ещё могу понять переименование категорий а-ля Category:Orekhovo-Borisovo South -> Category:Orekhovo-Borisovo Yuzhnoye District, когда прежде всего идёт переименование South -> Yuzhnoye и также для районов в Москве с префиксами "Северное". "почему бы тогда вам не начать с английской Википедии и выяснить там этот вопрос для начала?" - ага, делать мне нечего. Мне проще убедить тех, кто пытается слепо следовать названиям в Английской Википедии. С другой стороны, надеюсь, может они сами в Английской Википедии до этого дойдут. Смысла же по категориям на Викискладе по районам Нагатино-Садовники, Москворечье-Сабурово, Дорогомилово и другим (у которых нет уточнений в Русской Википедии) искусственно добавлять префикс "District" - бессмысленно и глуповато. Brateevsky {talk} 11:45, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Ну а зачем вы тогда сами создавали "глуповатую и бессмысленную" категорию w:Category:Brateyevo District в английской Википедии? Что именно заставило вас сейчас изменить свое мнение по вопросу именования таких категорий? --Александр Мотин (talk) 12:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, это моя ошибка. Но это был далёкий 2012 год, когда я был на 10 лет моложе, так что посмотрел как названы другие статьи о районах Москвы, и назвал также по этому району. Brateevsky {talk} 10:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ответы что у вас, что у A.Savin как под копирку. Ну и исправьте тогда своё упущение. Потом и поговорим.--Александр Мотин (talk) 10:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, это моя ошибка. Но это был далёкий 2012 год, когда я был на 10 лет моложе, так что посмотрел как названы другие статьи о районах Москвы, и назвал также по этому району. Brateevsky {talk} 10:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Касательно Дорогомилово и т.п. есть ещё и такая причина — Category:Things named after Dorogomilovo. Разве что надо подумать как все-таки правильно назвать родительскую категорию: оставить Dorogomilovo либо переименовать в Dorogomilovo Sloboda. Я, если честно, в контексте сказанного мной с трудом представляю корректность продвигаемой вами конструкции Category:Dorogomilovo (район Москвы) → Category:Things named after Dorogomilovo → Category:Dorogomilovo (Sloboda?). Да и в конце концов, вы реально считаете, что мы должны устраивать дебаты по каждой категории района нежели все переименовать с добавлением слова District? Такие дебаты будут, по моему мнению, контрпродуктивны, ведь все уже решено в английской Википедии, но туда вы не хотите идти со своими идеями, чтобы заняться оспариванием текущих названий статей о районах. Ну и ваше молчание по поводу заданного вам вопроса выше о созданной вами же w:Category:Brateyevo District, на мой взгляд, указывает на то, что это очередной вброс необоснованной претензии как и претензия A.Savin в соседнем обсуждении выше. Ему тоже стало резко неинтересно продолжать дискуссию, когда ему указали, что он создавал такие же категории, но которые почему-то ему сейчас резко перестали нравиться.--Александр Мотин (talk) 10:52, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Вы правы, Александр, мне действительно за последние месяцы сильно убавилась охота что-либо ещё делать для этой фашистской страны... Но таки да, ваша манера в определённые моменты начинать отвечать мне исключительно по-английски, действительно забавна и, безусловно, является одним из курьёзных проявлений именно того, за что вас, собственно, и ушли из русской википедии. И вы теперь срываете обиду на нас здесь, ой нехорошо. --A.Savin 11:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Ну так если вы не готовы что-то делать здесь, то вас никто и не держит. "Срываю обиду на вас здесь", бесцеремонно загружая многие тысячи свободных изображений, вероломно совершая тысячи конструктивных правок, вспоминая о вас только тогда, когда вы внезапно появляетесь со своими пустыми и надуманными претензиями ко мне за то, что сами и делали? :) Что касается английского языка: ну так если вы мне пишете "Vandalism warning" на английском, то почему же я должен с вами на другом языке общаться? В чем же курьезность? Ну а в целом это все, конечно, напоминает что-то вроде "я бежал за вами двадцать километров, чтобы сказать вам как вы мне безразличны" :)) --Александр Мотин (talk) 12:20, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Вы правы, Александр, мне действительно за последние месяцы сильно убавилась охота что-либо ещё делать для этой фашистской страны... Но таки да, ваша манера в определённые моменты начинать отвечать мне исключительно по-английски, действительно забавна и, безусловно, является одним из курьёзных проявлений именно того, за что вас, собственно, и ушли из русской википедии. И вы теперь срываете обиду на нас здесь, ой нехорошо. --A.Savin 11:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Brateevsky: Ну а зачем вы тогда сами создавали "глуповатую и бессмысленную" категорию w:Category:Brateyevo District в английской Википедии? Что именно заставило вас сейчас изменить свое мнение по вопросу именования таких категорий? --Александр Мотин (talk) 12:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Да, здорово, что поняли. Согласно правилам Викисклада, категории должны называться в целом на английском языке. Однако при этом они не должны ориентироваться на названия в Английской Википедии, и не должны копировать названия один в один. Это вредная практика по переименованию, и наводить какую-то систематизацию в этом случае бессмысленно. Английская Википедия - не авторитет для Викисклада. Уж скорее Русская Википедия - авторитет в плане названий в России, где русский язык ещё сто лет будет государственным. Я ещё могу понять переименование категорий а-ля Category:Orekhovo-Borisovo South -> Category:Orekhovo-Borisovo Yuzhnoye District, когда прежде всего идёт переименование South -> Yuzhnoye и также для районов в Москве с префиксами "Северное". "почему бы тогда вам не начать с английской Википедии и выяснить там этот вопрос для начала?" - ага, делать мне нечего. Мне проще убедить тех, кто пытается слепо следовать названиям в Английской Википедии. С другой стороны, надеюсь, может они сами в Английской Википедии до этого дойдут. Смысла же по категориям на Викискладе по районам Нагатино-Садовники, Москворечье-Сабурово, Дорогомилово и другим (у которых нет уточнений в Русской Википедии) искусственно добавлять префикс "District" - бессмысленно и глуповато. Brateevsky {talk} 11:45, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- А причём тут Чехия? Я про Москву говорю. Ладно, вы меня не понимаете, я всё сказал; мы не находим общий язык. Если что-то не поняли, — проблемы будут не у меня. Пока вернул категории, чтобы файлы не ссылались в пустоту. --Brateevsky {talk} 09:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Districts of the Czech Republic--Александр Мотин (talk) 09:12, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Как минимум - не мешать мне, а как максимум — убрать эти префиксы «District», где они не нужны. Ладно, начнём с минимума сначала. --Brateevsky {talk} 09:00, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- А с какой работой вам нужно помочь? --Александр Мотин (talk) 08:57, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- По поводу «Тверской» ошибки нет, аргументировать этим примером не очень хорошо, потому что именно наименование «Тверской район» есть не только в Москве. Инициировать процедуру CFD я не буду — вы тоже сейчас переименовывали без неё, тут все равны, каждый может переименовать. Спасибо, конечно, что «подкинули» мне дофига работы. Знаете мы не в суде (а вы за все много лет в проектах Викимедиа вы ведёте себя, именно как будто вы находитесь там), давайте вы тоже вашу агрессию направите куда-нибудь, кроме Википедии и Викисклада. Я понял, что вы меня не услышали. Я предупредил. Ну что ж, в будущем я буду договариваться с другими русскоязычными администраторами, чтобы вы не мешали мне уже физически и технически править. В русской и английской Википедиях вы заблокированы, и я считаю это решение верным, и буду за него, если попробуете оспорить. --Brateevsky {talk} 08:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Что касается того, с каким упорством вы и коллега A.Savin пишете мне про блокировки в русском и английском разделах, то начинает закрадываться мнение о том, что эти слишком частые пустые и необоснованные претензии в мой адрес на страницах проекта могут делаться с определенной целью. Вот вы сами сейчас сделали вброс какой-то необоснованной претензии и сами же пишете, что будете против разблокировки. Но я, мягко скажем, сомневаюсь, что вы сможете защитить позицию тех, кто сфабриковал эти блокировки :) --Александр Мотин (talk) 09:53, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Массовые изменения категоризации, проводимые одним участником - это гарантированная недоделка. Примеры уже есть - незавершенный перенос улиц из "районов" в "streets of район...", в результате которого всё вперемешку и кому это разгребать - неизвестно. Или перенос категорий здания в "buildings in такая-то улица". И не доделали, и назад не вернули. Нынешнее предприятие, положим, не столь затратно по времени, но поддерживать его силами одного участника - особо когда другие участники явно против - совершенно нереально. Тут максимум что необходимо - унификация "белых ворон" в существующих категория, не более. Retired electrician (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Retired electrician: По улицам районов Москвы, на мой взгляд, изначально вообще неправильно сделали — вручную переносить в "streets of район..." и следить за актуальностью будет слишком трудоемко. Надо ботом перенести данные улиц на Викиданные либо с ФИАС, либо с data.mos.ru, где указывается в каких районах улица расположена. С Викиданных нужные категории и подтягивать на страницу категории Викисклада. И потом также ботом раз там в год проверять на вандализм, расхождения в данных и обновлять. Что думаете? Пример подтягиваемых (автоматических) категорий с Викиданных если кто-то не понял — Category:Sergey Grishin (colonel).
- По районам Москвы. По моему мнению, нет никакой необходимости в срочном порядке переименовывать подкатегории в категориях районов Москвы и такой цели вроде бы никто и не ставит. Таким образом какое-никакое поле для творчества в названиях категорий у участников Викисклада остается.--Александр Мотин (talk) 21:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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В сотый раз повторяю -- не удаление, а дисамбиг. При следующей такой правке будет блокировка. --A.Savin 11:15, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Так делай дизамбиги, я же не против. Их можно сделать и из красной ссылки, в чем проблема?--Александр Мотин (talk) 13:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
September 2022
[edit]I blocked your account indefinitely since you accused another user in threats of physical harm [4] but refused to support the statement by the diffs [5]. In case an unblock request has been filed let me add for the reviewing administrator that (i) the user is wikilawyering all the time, and libel for which they were blocked was part of this wikilawyering - for example, he has three or four users in the same thread saying that what he is doing is against the policies but he is fully convinced that he is right and everybody else is wrong; and (ii) he has already been indeffed with TPA revoked in his home project - the Russian Wikipedia - and in his second home project - the English Wikipedia - for exactly same behavior, and of course he now says that the bans were illegal, that he is right and everybody else is wrong. If he is unblocked, this behavior will continue here. Ymblanter (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: The diff was presented above on that forum and I didn't say that there was threat of physical harm. I said exactly: "физическое" устранение. In English it translates as: "physically" suspend (from editorial work).--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:23, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the exact citation in Russian which you can see from the diff I presented on forum:
Я предупредил. Ну что ж, в будущем я буду договариваться с другими русскоязычными администраторами, чтобы вы не мешали мне уже физически и технически править. --Brateevsky 08:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
I warned you. Well, in the future I will negotiate with other Russian-speaking administrators to stop you physically and technically. --Brateevsky 08:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- What exactly do you not like about my remark? And I did not refuse to provide a diff since I provided it there as well.--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- I am afraid at this point your only option is an unblock request. I have enough experience to know that it is absolutely hopeless to convince you in anything, and even more hopeless to convince you that you have done anything wrong. Ymblanter (talk) 16:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: Well you see the Russian text and you speak Russian as well. So what is the reason to leave me indef blocked? I didn't do what you're accusing me of.--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:43, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- I am afraid at this point your only option is an unblock request. I have enough experience to know that it is absolutely hopeless to convince you in anything, and even more hopeless to convince you that you have done anything wrong. Ymblanter (talk) 16:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin and Ymblanter: Unfortunately, the statement that I allegedly accused my opponent of threatening to murder me does not correspond to the reality and this clearly indicates the fabricational nature of the blocking. And here's why. A word "устранение" according to the Russian wiktionary means "лишение возможности занимать какую-либо должность, заниматься чем-либо / deprivation of the opportunity to hold any position, to do anything". A word "устранение" according to the Russian wiktionary is also synonymous to a word отстранение "removal, discharge, suspending, ban". Do you confirm?--Александр Мотин (talk) 11:21, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin: Do you confirm what I wrote with a link to the wiktionary? Please give an honest answer.--Александр Мотин (talk) 11:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Here is some other remarks in the Russian Wikipedia regarding "устранить оппонента" ("suspend the opposing editor from something") [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] Do they really say to "kill the opposing editor" since you stated that a word "устранить" means to murder someone? In order not to aggravate the situation you need to admit that you are wrong. This is a vivid case when someone really wants to suspend the user from editing who does not give a single reason for this. Completely unacceptable methods are being used. --Александр Мотин (talk) 10:51, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- @A.Savin and Ymblanter: Secondly. As I said above the opposing editor Brateevsky made the following remark about me: "Well, in the future I will negotiate with other Russian-speaking administrators to stop you physically and technically". Yesterday I informed my colleagues in a telegram chat "Wikimedia in Russia" about this fabricated blocking. An experienced editor Kaganer said that this Brateevsky's remark ("to stop you physically") is "extremely unethical" (direct quote). Paul also said that if a user once to be indefblocked for this extremely unethical remark then there is a little chance to be unblocked. And what about you? How do you evaluate Brateevsky's remark? --Александр Мотин (talk) 11:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Third. I would really not like my blocking to be considered by administrators who recently allow themselves the following statements on Commons:
- Ymblanter [13] ("Russian government go and fuck yourself")
- A.Savin [14] ("Indeed, in recent months, I have greatly decreased the desire to do anything else for this fascist country...")
- And you indefblocked me for my inoffensive remark («to "physically" suspend») after Brateevsky said he was going "to stop me physically". Maybe we will try to find some solution after all? --Александр Мотин (talk) 12:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Нате вам всем дифф особенно Александру, и хватит уже меня упоминать. Значит так, жду извинений от Александра Мотин до 23:59 МСК воскресенья (2 октября) за такую вопиющую трактовку моих слов на русском. Я защищал себя и своё право на правки, чтобы не тратить лишнее время на разгребание «сломаннного» после сомнительных правок Александра. Никаких угроз от меня не было в помине. Мне кажется, даже за такую интерпретацию необходимо блокировать бессрочно. --Brateevsky {talk} 19:31, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- meta:Requests for comment/Blatant arbitrariness and abuse on the part of the Arbitration Committee of the Russian Wikipedia, harassment in Wikimedia projects. P.S. @EugeneZelenko: FYI.--Александр Мотин (talk) 23:12, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
@Taivo: Since you declined my unblock request, I ask you to translate my sentence into English, for which I was indefinitely blocked. Thus, other English-speaking colleagues would be able to see everything with their own eyes without anyone's interpretations.--Александр Мотин (talk) 16:51, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Diff. "Недавно, угрожая мне на моей СО "физическим" устранением," and Google translation: "Recently, threatening me on my CO with "physical" elimination," Taivo (talk) 17:05, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Taivo: For some unknown reason, you are giving only a small part of my full statement avoiding the full context. Here is the full one [15]:
Удивительные дела, однако. Недавно, угрожая мне на моей СО "физическим" устранением, Brateevsky доказывал, что уточнения на Викискладе это плохо, а теперь рассказывает, что деревни обязательно должны иметь уточнения в своем названии. А почему только деревни? При этом следует обратить внимание, что сам же Brateevsky создавал категории вида Brateyevo District, но позднее от меня безосновательно требовал прекратить это делать под угрозой "физического" устранения. Наверное текущие потуги A.Savin и Brateevsky по фабрикации блокировки моей учётной записи в Commons — это и есть реализация этих угроз, я правильно понимаю, коллеги? --Александр Мотин 15:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Amazing things, however. Recently threatening to "physically" suspend me, Brateevsky argued that disambiguation for categories on Wikimedia Commons is bad, and now he says that villages must necessarily have a word "village" in their own category names. And why only villages then? At the same time, it should be noted that Brateevsky himself created categories like Brateyevo District but later he unreasonably demanded that I stop doing this threatening to "physically" suspend me. Colleagues, am I to understand it correctly that current attempts of A.Savin and Brateevsky to fabricate the blocking of my Commons account are certainly the realization of that threat? --Александр Мотин 15:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)- If you insist on your version, there is nothing easier than to provide your own translation of my full statement. It is clear from the context that I never accused someone of threatening physical harm. But if you prefer to use a verb "to eliminate" instead of "to suspend" there is still nothing that proves your point, given the above context:
Everybody who is basically not a hard core controbuter should be eliminated from editing [16]
The proxies and AOL won't be immune but will probably be completely eliminated from editing [17]
He is banned and eliminated from editing [18]
If adopted, I'd be eliminated from contributing [19]
Their physical elimination from the plot is necessary [20]
The statement seems to infer that indeed two are eliminated [21] (from America's Next Top Model competition)- You can also clearly see that I used quotation marks for a word "physically" only:
I warned you. Well, in the future I will negotiate with other Russian-speaking administrators to stop you physically and technically. --Brateevsky 08:55, 23 July 2022 (UTC) [22]
- And the most important thing is that if someone really threatened me, I would have informed the functionaries long ago.--Александр Мотин (talk) 19:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Since the user is continuing to misuse his talk page for trolling, and also, due to very likely to come Global ban, there is no point to discuss his block on Commons anyway, I would say let's revoke their talk page access too. --A.Savin 19:35, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
@Taivo: Look, several weeks ago A.Savin, Brateevsky and Ymblanter had already attempted to fabricate the blocking of my account — COM:ANI: Category:Brateyevo and Category:Brateyevo District. A.Savin accused me that I was allegedly "adding a looping category (making "Brateyevo District" both paternal and a subcat of "Brateyevo")". But look at what really happened:
- 21:46 UTC: I added Category:Things named after Brateyevo to the Category:Brateyevo District since reliable source says that the district was named after Brateyevo and added the official site of the district confirming this fact to Wikidata [23].
- 21:46 UTC: I created Category:Things named after Brateyevo and added category Category:Brateyevo.
- 21:49 UTC: I removed Category:Brateyevo District from Category:Brateyevo to eliminate (!) looping.
- At that time the category structure had the following form: Category:Brateyevo District → Category:Things named after Brateyevo → Category:Brateyevo. Do you see any categories looping? Now look what A.Savin had done:
- 00:13 UTC: A.Savin added Category:Brateyevo District to Category:Brateyevo.
- 00:16 UTC: A.Savin removed Category:Things named after Brateyevo from Category:Brateyevo District adding a commentary to his edit: it's not "named after". But RS added by me to Wikidata says exactly the opposite: "The name of this district comes from the village of Brateyevo". When I tried to restore the correct category structure A.Savin started edit warring causing the categories looping. When I saw that he was provoking a conflict, I avoided the edit war.
- And now the current category structure is: Category:Things named after Brateyevo → Category:Brateyevo → Category:Brateyevo District. Is that right? Really?
- Compare it to the existing consensus category system:
And now look again why they demanded to block me falsifying the facts:
In both categories, an indefblocked long-term abuser from Russian Wikipedia is persistently editwarring: for Category:Brateyevo removal of the only one location category, and for Category:Brateyevo District adding a looping category (making "Brateyevo District" both paternal and a subcat of "Brateyevo"). I hereby request temporarily full-protection of both categories, or sanctions against the abuser. -- A.Savin 02:03, 17 September 2022
In principle, if I were A. Savin, I would apply sanctions to the user. Wikimedia Commons administrators have the right to block problem users from Wikimedia Commons. =) And the user, unfortunately, is problematic. --Brateevsky 14:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Now you clearly see that their idea was to fabricate the blocking of my account. I would like you to approach the issue objectively and impartially and unblock my account since this indefinite blocking is obviously fabricated, just as they tried to do it in the above case.--Александр Мотин (talk) 21:49, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
All this can be true (I even did not read that thoroughly), but you were blocked due to diff. This is not fabricated. Now I reblocked you without talkpage access, because you seem to be unable to understand, that such accusations are not allowed in Wikimedia projects. Taivo (talk) 06:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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