User:Taivo/Archive18 Oct–Dec

File:Journalists in Sabana Grande 2017.jpg

I have uploaded a new version of the file with the original metadata. QuinteroP (talk) 20:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thank you very much. I closed the deletion request as kept. Taivo (talk) 07:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Voronezh violator

Как бороться с неадекватным человеком под ником Insider который удаляет под вымышленным предлогом фото и пытается вставить старые фото которое не соответствует реальности сегодняшнего дня, маниакальное преследование хороших фоток к примеру он уже выставил на удаление File:Vozairport.jpg преследует все фотки Воронежского аэропорта и ставит их все на удаление. Защитите хотя бы последнее фото которое он пытается удалить File:Vozairport.jpg он реально психически не здоровый человек а вы ему помогаете. Забаньте этого Insider

Вы должны свои претензии написать в Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Voronezh violator. Файлы представпены на удаление как нарушения авторских прав. Taivo (talk) 17:27, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

I did not archive, but removed personal attack against another user. As much as I remember, the attacker got blocked for this. Taivo (talk) 07:47, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Please review File:Naveen Waqar.jpg

Hi you recently created one image nomination page which i tagged for speedy deletion. Anyways will you please review this image File:Naveen Waqar.jpg, that is uploaded by me and i just want to know if its rightly licensed or not. Rasheed222 (talk) 19:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

 Deleted. The file was licensed as "All rights reserved" and this is not acceptable in Commons, please look licenses. Taivo (talk) 07:21, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok! will you please guide me which flickr images i should upload? actually i thought it meets commons guidelines. please guide me. Rasheed222 (talk) 10:05, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Please read COM:L about suitable licenses. Taivo (talk) 10:10, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Bananas

Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems/Archive 72#I eat bananas 101

FYI, it was a sock. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 15:10, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Halb kunst

Palun kustuta see rõvedus. Normaalne fail on ka olemas. Sama kehtib selle ja selle kohta. Kruusamägi (talk) 23:55, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Taivo (talk) 15:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Tänan! Täna sattus muidu ka see fail ette. Samas on olemas see. Asendasin kehvema faili kasutused ja palun see kustutad, et see jälle kuskile artiklitesse ei satuks. Kruusamägi (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Veel mõned väga halva kvaliteediga kunstiteoste reprod kustutamiseks, millest on (nüüd) olemas korralikud versioonid:

• File:Konrad Mägi - Meditatsioon (Maastik daamiga) - õli.JPG
• File:Konrad Mägi, Naise portree.jpg

Kruusamägi (talk) 05:31, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Corrections valid

Thank you Tavio. Yes these corrections to my updates are valid. The error was on the level up. The women’s page lead by accident to the men’s page. This is the source of the error. I had only realized that Inwas editing the wrong page postum. The corrections back to the original made after my edit are valid. I need to change the incorrect link on the women’s page. 11lionsd (talk) 12:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Consent not needed?Really?

Hello Taivo,

At https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Bezwada_Wilson_in_Bhopal_2017.jpg&action=history

You have given the reason "Subject's consent is not needed here", for my image deletion request for this File:Bezwada Wilson in Bhopal 2017.jpg. May i ask why? Why it isn't needed? The subject clearly isn't looking into the camera yet the snapshot was taken. And as far as the venue is concerned that place could be his private place.

There's another file at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Korea_Buddhist_flag.png&action=history which i had applied for deletion for this file File:Korea Buddhist flag.png, and you've given a reason of "The file does not surpass threshold of originality". The Commons:CSD celarly doesn't state anything about any threshold, so how would i've know about this. Not only this, i believe your task as an administrator was to check whether the said image was violating free/non-free license citeria or not, which in this case it was with its license laundering Commons:CSD#F6 behaviour. With that said it was an obvious copyright violation.

Yet, you not only overlooked a clear violation of Commons:CSD but went over to come up with the expaination of not surpassing 'threshold of originality'.

Could please explain your reasoning? 103.92.42.174 14:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

I must not show, why subject's consent isn't needed. You as nominator must show, why subject's consent is needed. This seems to be public place and nothing strange is happening here. I'm really surprised, that somebody demands subject's consent, and you need a good explanation for that.

For the another file, it cannot be copyright violation, because it is not protected with copyright (it is too simple for that), and it is in scope as well, because it is used and even in multiple projects. I do not see any reason for deletion. Taivo (talk) 14:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Subject's consent should be required because of this Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people#The_right_of_privacy and this - The subject's consent is usually needed for publishing a photograph of an identifiable individual taken in a private place, and Commons expects this even if local laws do not require it. Taken from here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people . What makes you say that it's a public place? It could very well be just an image from outside his house, which is going to put it under the criteria - taken at a Private place. In addition to this, he's clearly not looking into the camera. Didn't i mention that earlier?

• I'm really surprised, that somebody demands subject's consent, and you need a good explanation for that.

My reply to that is - I don't need a good explanation for somebody demanding subject's consent, I need a good explanaiton for somebody not demanding the subject's consent. Btw, i'm asking for your rationale behind you denying my request. That's it! If you're taking somebody's pic ask for their permission. Besides, a picture taken with consent is going to atleast make the subject look into the camera.

Thanks 103.92.42.174 16:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

The file you linked says clearly: "In the United States (where the Commons servers are located), consent is not as a rule required to photograph people in public places." That's that. Taivo (talk) 16:28, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

You're still calling it a public place. Why?103.92.42.174 17:26, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Looks like public place. Taivo (talk) 17:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

OR it looks like private place.103.92.42.174 17:51, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

If you have evidence, that the photo is made in private place, please present it. Taivo (talk) 17:52, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Nah, no evidence....but your bias is clear on this one. 103.92.42.174 17:53, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

1 This picture clearly violates Commons:CSD#F6 versus, User talk:Taivo quote:"it cannot be copyright violation, because it is not protected with copyright (it is too simple for that)". Hmm... which choice would be the right one? I wonder... — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 103.92.42.174 (talk) 19:18, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

My choice is correct. Sometimes people upload into Commons files with incorrect author, source and license. If the file cannot be correctly sourced and licensed, then it should be deleted. If the file can be correctly sourced and licensed, then deletion is wrong. Instead, file description, author, date, source and license must be corrected and proper categories added. New users sometimes cannot do that themselves and we must not punish them for that, because nobody is born as master and the skill comes with years. Taivo (talk) 10:15, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm really surprised, that somebody uploads image without providing permission, and you need no explanation for that. Very well, if that's the case lets see whether your unexperienced users care to rectify what they've done and provide the license permission or not.103.92.42.174 14:58, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Your unexperienced user was careful enough to call someone else's work theirs, and you're all out in the open to defend that. Not only this, you've changed the author's name alltogether. What a nice job on your behalf! 103.92.42.174 15:10, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for liking my little detective work! Taivo (talk) 15:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't meant to be a complement. 103.92.42.174 15:27, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Respecto a Octavillasmasgranada.jpg

Hola, buenas tardes Taivo. Verás, pediría que eliminases ese aviso que has puesto, dado que esa foto la hice yo, de hecho esa es una mesa de mi casa la que está de fondo. No entiendo a qué viene poner estas alertas sin preguntar ni nada. Ruego las retires por favor. Gracias de antemano, --Granadino7 (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

This discussion must continue in Commons:Deletion requests/File:Octavillasmasgranada.jpg. Taivo (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks a lot Taivo and congratulations for your work ! Regards; Cquoi (talk) 12:24, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Posters within the category Category:Election posters in Israel

Hi. I've individually nominated files within the category Category:Election posters in Israel (as you proposed in Commons:Deletion requests/Election posters) following this recent discussion. Yours, --Patrick Rogel (talk) 11:32, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Category talk:Icons for railway descriptions

Please restore and move to Category talk:BSicon/railway. Thank you. Useddenim (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Taivo (talk) 08:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Admin homophobia

Are the licenses on this site[1] fake? s it possible to threaten a ban for downloading this image? Sealle spoke rudely in Russian on his page. My English is not so good. --Терпрп (talk) 16:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

License is valid and unacceptable for Commons. You must make difference between block and ban. Repeated uploading copyright violation can lead a block and even indefinite block, but probably not a ban. Со мной можно говорить и по-русски. Taivo (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

@Терпрп: Admins do not care about what you download from Commons. Everybody may download stuff from Commons, even users who are blocked or banned. It's uploading that can be a problem. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

What do you have in mind? I do not understand. --Терпрп (talk) 16:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Почему CC-BY-SA-4 не подходит? --Терпрп (talk) 16:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Можете ли пояснить? --Терпрп (talk) 17:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Терпрп: Вот теперь я видел. Внизу была лицензия "All rights reserved © Slava Mogutin, 2018" и вначале я больше вообще не посмотрел. Теперь вижу, что у некоторых фотографии отдельная лицензия CC-BY-SA-4. Эта лицензия подходит. Извиняюсь. Taivo (talk) 17:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Дело в том, что фотография была удалена и выписана предупреждение с мотивом, что это "фейковая лицензия" и что я должен в фонд отправить письмо от самой фотографа Лауры --Терпрп (talk) 12:19, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Я не понимаю, какие фотографии были удалены. Вы ни одного файла в Викисклад не загрузили. Может быть, вы загрузили их в русскую Википедию? Тогда я не могу помочь. Конечно, OTRS-разрешение от Лауры было бы особенно хорошое. Taivo (talk) 14:12, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Простите. Я это User:Терпр. Я в той рувики пароль потерял. А файл File:Slava Mogutin and Robert Filippini.jpg --Терпрп (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Я создал заявление для восстановления в COM:UDEL. Я не хочу восстоновить такие файлы без согласия других. Taivo (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Спасибо! --Терпрп (talk) 18:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Taivo, I'm afraid you missed the authorship issue, see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Slava Mogutin and Robert Filippini.jpg. The uploader was well aware the file was deleted for this reason and misled you, as well as allowed himself another offensive thread header. I hope next time you will let me know and force this person to keep the AGF policy after multiple warnings he's got. Sealle (talk) 11:23, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

File talk:După trecerea unui convoi între Birzula şi Grozdovca.jpg

Good morning!

I quote:

1.Long descriptions are not wrong, until they are not too long.

2. References are not written into description, but into source field.

In reality:

1. The description of the photo is very long. It also includes the source of non-photo affirmations. It does not match the description of the photo with what Carp writes. This (Carp) does not say the dead of that photograph are shot. He does not say that their author is the Tarca sub-officer. Do not tell if he (Carp) is the author of the photo or someone else from whom he took it. That's an unknown one. There is also a big problem of verifiability.

2. In the source field only the source of the photo is mentioned, not the source of the statements made by the author of the posting of the photo.

In conclusion, if we go over length descriptions (which is a relative problem), we can not overcome the inaccuracies in the description or the lack of sources to confirm what Dahn says. Respectfully 188.26.11.77 05:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Speaking of the wolf, Tarca is at p. 259. And no, it does not say they were shot by Tarca, just that he was the highest in charge for the whole operation. Of course, he also received orders from higher officers, but locally he was the highest in rank. Footnote points to sheet X, and the legend of the first photo says "the convoy", not "a convoy" as the second photo. Such articulation points that the author already spoke of which convoy was "the convoy". It is not original synthesis, it is reading with comprehension. And, yes, the only person who gets such shootings attributed (whether he shot them himself or just gave the order) is Tarca. Tgeorgescu (talk) 23:05, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Ariadacapo

Mr. Ariadacapo also let me delete my photographs and pictures eg File: Walter WIZ (1921), drawing Milan Tošnar 1981.jpg, File: Walter 0 a.jpg (Walter 0 racing 1924, drawing by Milan Tošnar 1980) and File: Walter Super 6 (1930) at a commemorative ride 1,000 miles Cz. 2018.jpg. I have explained several times to the other pictures (from 1913-1936) that I acquired them legally in the years 1980-1982 from the company archive as a Walter employee. Now all these pictures (glass plates) are stored in the State Regional Archives in Prague, because Walter collapsed in 1995. Libor Tošnar Ltosnar (talk) 16:32, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for mentioning. Now please read Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Ltosnar about what to do for undeleting the images. Taivo (talk) 17:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Long time no see

Hello, Taivo. I have not disturbed you since quite some time now. Therefore please do me a non-admin favour to have a look at User:Peteravivangel's contributions, such as in https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Manaqish.jpg&curid=53711706&action=history and help me to avoid a silly edit war. Thank you very much in advance. Best. --E4024 (talk) 19:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Taivo. Some people do not know how to categorize, as I do not know how to make better links (see below :), and oblige one to go for an edit war while they are cool enough because they do not have too much at stake (other than obstinately exposing a certain lady). Here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Backside_of_a_black_lace_nightgown.jpg&curid=66791812&action=history Can you give a hand to check the cats, please. Tyvm. --E4024 (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:At hyderabad.jpg

Some browser problem waiting a helping hand from a good admin: Commons:Deletion requests/File:At hyderabad.jpg. Tyvm. --E4024 (talk) 13:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done Taivo (talk) 15:35, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Mug shots of people of Russia

Спасибо за вашу помощь. Я хотел бы у вас спросить ещё об одном вопросе политики Викисклада. Категория Category:Mug shots of people of Russia и Category:Victims of political repression in the Soviet Union содержат "шоты" из уголовных дел многих известных личностей. Их метят или {{PD-RU-exempt|type=mug shots}}, поскольку материалы уголовных дел вроде как государственный документ, эти фото сделаны неизвестным автором по госзаказу с целью составления госдокумента. Или {{PD-old-70}}, {{PD-Russia-1996}}, поскольку это старые фото неизвестных авторов. Но эти фото избирательно удаляются. Возражения что 1) госматериалы уголовного дела это не государственные документы 2) что дата публикации вне суда этих фото часто имеет дату 1990-х. Такая трагическая ситуация сложилась с File:Anna Barkova.jpg. Вопрос в том, нужно ли бороться за восстановление или нужно срочно эвакуировать эти категории в Русскую Википедию как несвободные? --Терпрп (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

{{PD-Russia-1996}} скажет, что 70 лет считают не с момента фотографирования, а с момента первой публикации. Так что эта лицензия вас обыкновенно не поможет. Но {{PD-RU-exempt}} кажется правильной: "other materials of state government agencies and local government agencies ..., including ... other materials of ... judicial character". Taivo (talk) 15:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Taivo, please take a look at w:ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Авторское право/2011/02#Фото документов, w:ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Авторское право/2014/10#Снимки заключенных из дел НКВД and w:ru:Википедия:Форум/Архив/Авторское право/2014/02#Фотографии советских и российских преступников. Sealle (talk) 11:17, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Похоже Sealle ещё и преследованием занялся. --Терпрп (talk) 12:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Нет. Я спросил у него совет. Taivo (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for giving me a second chance for me to contribute constructively at commons. Your unblock is something that I'll never take for granted. You're one of the kindest admins I know and I hope you continue working on commons. Eltomas2003 (talk) 21:33, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Eltomas2003

Taivo, I've restored the block on Eltomas2003, which you lifted inappropriately and contrary to policy. 1) Eltomas2003 was blocked for sockpuppetry, not copyvios; the unblock rationale did not address the socking issue, which was as recent as one month ago (!!!) with J0n 47 n454 (per COM:BLOCK, we require "An acknowledgement that the block was appropriate and a credible promise that the behaviour that led to the block will not be repeated"); 2) in addition to copyvios and sockpuppetry, many of the socks have been used to upload COM:NOTHOST/COM:SCOPE violations, an issue that also needs to be addressed; and 3) again, per COM:BLOCK: "Before granting a request to lift a block placed by another administrator, the reviewing administrator should consult with the blocking administrator, except in obvious, uncontroversial cases." (emphasis in original). This is not an obvious, uncontroversial case. See, for example, Category:Sockpuppets of Eltomas2003 for the extensive known socks, many of which are recent. Эlcobbola _talk 23:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Aaah, I eat bananas 101. That was..fun - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 23:23, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Guess what? - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 07:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorting paintings from Denmark

Hi Taivo. I can see that you have changed the sortorder for some of the paintings by painters from Denmark, for instance File:Jørgen Roed - La Scala Santa i San Benedetto - studie - 1839.jpg. The sortorder in the "Paintings by Jørgen Roed" was set to 1839, and you changed it to something else. I hope it is clear to you, that when members of the community make a sortorder in the first place, there is a reason for that, and it is not a good idea to change it without a discussion. The reason for the original sortorder is that we wish to follow the artist through the years of her/his working life, and that is conveniently done by using the dates of the works. Do you see the point in this practice? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 05:45, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, I will remember, that Denmark is different from any other country, and will self-revert the sorting . Taivo (talk) 08:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for bearing over with our backwards ideas. Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 13:03, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Arcturus (optical).png

I was about to nominate this file for deletion, but noticed that it was previously nominated for deletion (by me), and then kept (by you). The file description has been updated with the following text:

Data retrieved from the Mikulski Archive for Space Telescopes (MAST) are part of the public domain and need no explicit permission for use, with the exception of proprietary data. We take care that these proprietary data are only provided to those who have proprietary rights. No explicit permission is needed for the use of MAST tools. Please acknowledge NASA and MAST when using data retrieved from MAST.

and also tagged as "solely created by NASA". It is not solely created by NASA and it still copyright. The blockquote explicitly states "with the exception of proprietary data" and DSS2 data is proprietary. This is stated at the bottom of the link in the permission section and explained fully here and here. The acknowledgements and permissions explanation is geared mainly towards scientific (non-commercial) users, but makes it very clear that the datasets are subject to copyright, which makes them unsuitable for inclusion here. The status of all the MAST Catalogs and Surveys Group products is explained here. None of this should be confused with the similarly-named but entirely separate SDSS (Sloan Digital Sky Survey), which has recently been released into the public domain. Lithopsian (talk) 15:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

There is no evidence, that DSS data is used for creating the image. Neither file page nor source page mentions DSS. en:Mikulski Archive for Space Telescopes does not mention DSS. Actually MAST as archive does not create any data; it only storages data. So in my opinion the license is correct: neither MAST nor DSS was co-creator of the file, all work of NASA. Taivo (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Arcul de Triumf by Britchi Mirela

Domnule Taivo, ma numesc Britchi Iulia Mirela cea care a fotografiat Arcul de Triumf. Constat ca vreti sa le scoateti pe motiv ca arhitectul (Petre Antonescu) are drepturile de autor pana in 2036.

Dar daca vreti sa le scoateti sau deleted de ce nu scoateti si poza lui DanielValahul (File: Arcul de triumf noaptea) poza din Concursul Wiki Loves Monuments 2018. O poza foarte frumoasa. Am mai vazut poze cu Arcul de Triumf, din Concursuri Wiki Loves Monuments si nu le-ati scos. Dar mie imi scoateti pozele intr-o veselie. Eu nu sunt de acord sa-mi tot scoateti poze, care au fost acceptate, inventand diverse motive sau chiar fara motive. Britchi Iulia Mirela --Britchi Mirela (talk) 11:24, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. The discussion should be in Commons:Deletion requests/Arcul de Triumf by Britchi Mirela. I have not yet discovered every photo about the Arc of Triumph, but I'll work to find and nominate them all for deletion. Taivo (talk) 11:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Domnule Taivo eu doresc numele celor care au propus stergerea fisierelor mele cu Arcul de Triumf, poze care au fost acceptate in Concursul Wiki Loves Monuments. Sa ma razboiesc cu ei nu cu dumneavoastra, daca dumneavoastra nu aveti nici o vina. Britchi Iulia Mirela --Britchi Mirela (talk) 13:43, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

This was my personal decision. Nobody other proposed that. Taivo (talk) 15:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy holidays 2019! ;-)

			* Happy Holidays 2019, Taivo! *
			Merry Christmas! Happy New Year! Joyeux Noël ! Bonne année! Frohes Weihnachten! Frohes Neues Jahr! Счастливого Рождества! С Новым годом! ¡Feliz Navidad y próspero año nuevo! Щасливого Різдва! З Новим роком! -- George Chernilevsky talk 15:14, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
	Hi Taivo, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to Commons,    –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 18:35, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy new year, Taivo! Is this vandalism? Best. --E4024 (talk) 18:30, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, it is. I rolled the edit back. The user is globally locked. Taivo (talk) 10:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)