Talk:BSicon/Renaming

KRZ k-corners

We seem to have 131 icons named using the naming format of (KRZ+k2) and 109 icons named using the same format as (kKRZc2).

The former group of icons were renamed in 2017 to their current pattern following a discussion on this page in which all of the participants (Useddenim, Tuvalkin and Sameboat and myself) agreed to the proposed changes. The other icons seem to have all been uploaded by Lantus in 2021, except for 9 that were renamed by them, and all of the icons except for the 9 renamed ones appear to be duplicates of ones that already existed.

Am I missing something? Was there a discussion somewhere I can't find where the new naming scheme was agreed? Did nobody notice that this happened for two years? Jc86035 (talk) 15:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The older naming convention

(KRZ+k2) seems more intuitive to me. I would support removing the redundant ones and renaming those with the new format that have no equivalent in the original format (if any such icons exist.) Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The incorrectly-named ones were probably uploaded without sufficient checking of what already existed. There may also be some icons with a +kc suffix. Useddenim (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems there were only ever about 2 such icons, and they were both renamed to remove the c in 2018. Jc86035 (talk) 18:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lantus (contribs) has a long history of questionable catalog edits and icon uploads. And it seems that the clean-up and renaming hasn't been done yet. Useddenim (talk) 13:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ex(color)+GRZq

Hello, I have noticed that an unused colored line with an existing dashed border (example: (exSTR ochre+GRZq)) does not match the coloring of icons like (exSTR+GRZq), and instead it looks like (xSTR+GRZq). Would it be possible to have JJMC89 Bot rename the ex(color)+GRZq icons to x(color)+GRZq? Thanks. Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 21:29, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or a File mover could do it. Useddenim (talk) 16:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New icon

I uploaded (fmtd-ABZ3+1hg +grey), and based it on (td-STR3+1) and (tSTR3) (because no icon named tdSTR3+1h). Does it have the right name? -- Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 17:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Squishyawaylittle6: The normal-width (square) version of this icon (

(tSTR3 grey) +

(ftSTR3+1)) would be called fmtABZ3+1g +grey. Since this icon is only used in one diagram, rather than figuring out a better name for the existing image, I would instead rename the existing icon to that title and reupload the SVG as a square image. I believe this would be the best solution in this particular case.

With the naming logic that currently exists, I'm not sure if it is possible to completely correctly name this image if it is kept as a half-width icon.

Combining the h and g suffixes is an interesting solution, since the combination was previously undefined to my knowledge, but each suffix on its own would imply things about the icon that wouldn't make sense (i.e. h implies a different geometry to match a SHI1 corner, and g implies that the line should go to the top middle of the icon rather than the top right).

The naming of

(d-STR3+1) is also arguably nonstandard, and a name like dSTRc2~R (based on

(STRc2~R)) would have more of a logical basis. I would be wary of adding more nonstandard naming logic on top of the existing nonstandard naming pattern. Jc86035 (talk) 17:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jc86035: IIRC, you were the one who changed things like

(udSTR3+m) to

(ud-STR3+1). Useddenim (talk) 01:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Useddenim: You are correct. This was, as far as I can tell, a consequence of renaming icons like

(dKRZ3+1-), which was previously dKRZ1.

Perhaps a better solution would be to use a suffix that transforms only one particular preceding suffix, so

(dKRZ3+1-) and

(d-KRZ3+1) would respectively become something like dKRZ3(~G)+1 and dKRZ3+1(~F). This would allow for a lot more diagonal connections beyond the ones discussed here, though it might have limited applicability beyond that. Jc86035 (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I'd figured that would be the best solution too. -- Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 18:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I ended up finding out that because of the way Routemap overlay works, it would make a lot more sense to use

(tSTR3~L grey),

(tSTR3~R grey),

(ftSTRc2~R) and

(ftSTRc4~L) instead. Those icons are now used in the diagram. Jc86035 (talk) 18:42, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, thanks! I hadn't considered those icons at the time I placed the half-width icon in the diagram. -- Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 18:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which is correct?

Neither (vKRZvo-KRZvo) nor (uvKRZvo-KRZvo) are named incorrectly, but they are not identical except for color… Useddenim (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The naming of

(uvKRZvo-KRZvo) looks correct. A quarter turn of

(vKRZvo-KRZvo) would look like two

(dKRZvu), so this should be renamed to, let's say, something like vKRZuq-KRZuq. Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 17:06, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I didn't even think to look at it in rotational terms. Useddenim (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BLK icons

Is BLK the best root for (BLKm) (BLKa-L) (BLKe-L) (BLKe-R) (BLKa-R)? These icons seem to be a cross between (WDOCKSm) (WDOCKSa-L) (WDOCKSe-L) (WDOCKSe-R) (WDOCKSa-R) and the MASK icons. However, is the more appropriate naming pattern to follow (STR)/ (STR black) or (vNULf)/ (lvNULf)? I.e. should these be DOCKS black or lDOCKS? (I personally lean towards the former.) Useddenim (talk) 19:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be DOCKS black as

(lBHF) is available in different colors (including

(lBHF black) and

(lWBHF)) but

(vNULf) is only available in two colors. Squishyawaylittle6 (talk) 23:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible naming error

I might be missing something, but given the names of these icons…
(ABZ4+3f)
(ABZ4+2f)
(ABZ4+fl)
Why is this icon (ABZ4+1g) and not (ABZ4+1f)? Just wondering. Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]