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Archive December 2007
This category is useless and disturbs the organization of the Commons database. SVG files have a .svg extension, therefore no specific structure is needed to find them. --Juiced lemon 11:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- This is probably where the discussion should have been started originally, but I suggest we continue discussion where Juiced lemon initially started it at:
- Commons:Deletion requests/Category:SVG maps.
- Or we can copy that thread to here. That may even be better, if there is no objection.--Timeshifter 11:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Why is this even still open? No one except the nominator has supported deletion in either place, since 27 November 2007. Superm401 04:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Kept, following the result of the deletion request. --rimshottalk 14:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
At present, this category structure is a mess, with some categories named Train stations in... and some named Railway stations in... User:Juiced lemon has attempted to do some cleaning up, e.g. by putting Category:Railway stations in Staffordshire as a sub-cat of Category:Train stations in Staffordshire, but there is still a lot more work to do.
I cannot find any reference to a British v US use of English policy on Commons, but the equivalent policy on Wikipedia states that UK English should be used for UK related subjects, and it would make sense to apply this here. Train stations is generally considered incorrect, or an Americanism, in the UK, therefore I propose that this directory and all sub-directories should be renamed Category:Railway stations in the United Kingdom, and all relevant sub-directories be similarly renamed. This may lead to a non-conformity with the draft policy Commons:Naming categories, but as the UK category structure already fails to conform to this, and is significantly large enough to be considered a tree in its own right, I do not see this being a problem. – Tivedshambo (talk) 13:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Be bold. If it's considered incorrect, then change it to the better. The current categories on commons are a big mess. (I've cleaned up some Germany and Saxony related categories, so I know what I'm talking about.) If you could improve the usability a lot by not following the current naming conventions, then it's a big step forward. --32X 05:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- In the absense of any objections, I've requested this for bot renaming on User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands – Tivedshambo (talk) 12:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Objection. Renaming all categories starting with Railway station to Train station. Siebrand 08:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Still not done - despite several requests to the bots owner. If there are no objections, I'll do the work manually this weekend. – Tivedshambo (talk) 18:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Done, apparently. --rimshottalk 14:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
This category was created by me in November 2005. At this time I wasn't aware of the policy that such category names should be set in plural. I suggest to move this category and its contents to Category:Cross slabs. --AFBorchert 15:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Agree with change for above reason. This can be easily fixed. I don't think a discussion is necessary? -- Deadstar (msg) 14:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I would like to see this category merged with Category:Adoration of the Magi as they seem to be the same thing here. However, there might be a distinction I am not aware of. en: wiki has two articles: en:Biblical Magi and en:Adoration of the Magi ---- Deadstar (msg) 14:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- As I understand it, "Adoration of the Magi" is a term referring to the specific event (the adoration), which is often depicted in artwork. "Three Wise Men" or "Three Kings" is a broader term which encompasses all we have heard about the three magi, and various depictions, for instance someone dressing up as them. I therefore think Category:Adoration of the Magi should become a subcategory of the other. --Ranveig 23:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for that. I had a quick browse through what is in "Three Wise Men" and it seems to be a mix: from the above, would it be a fair guideline to say that if an image just depicts the Wise Men (and the star, and their camels, and their gifts etc.), it would be in the Three Wise Men category, and if it also depicts Jesus, the stable, Mary etc. it would be in the Adoration of the Magi category? -- Deadstar (msg) 08:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Done, there are still a lot of images that need to be moved, though. --rimshottalk 15:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
This category should be renamed to "Category:Tsushima Island" (singular form). For more information, see w:en:Talk:Tsushima Island/Archive 4. --Nanshu 00:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- To those unfamiliar with the issue: Tsushima is an island which is physically separated by two small canals. Whether it is one island or not was disputed in English Wikipedia. The result was the singular form. --Nanshu 10:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with the cfd procedure. How long does it take to move on this request? Can I "move" this category by myself? --Nanshu 23:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
- Discussions here can take quite long, because few admins watch this page. Anyway, I've now requested the move. It will be done soon. --rimshottalk 11:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Done, category moved and deleted. --rimshottalk 14:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
delete. Category name is obviously a polish name for chert. Originally contained two media, Image:Lidyt, Polska Sudety kamień probierczy1.jpg and Image:Lidyt, Polska Sudety kamień probierczy2.jpg, which have been moved to category:Chert --Jo 21:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Anybody home? Are there any problems with deleting this cat?Jo 22:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I couldn't definitely confirm that lidyt and chert is the same thing. As category names should be in English, I guess it can be deleted, anyway. I'll do it, if there are no objections, soon. --rimshottalk 12:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- For confirmation see Translation of Lidyt into english. A touchstone is a.o. made from lydite (or chert, see bottom of lydite entry). HTH, Jo 13:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I couldn't definitely confirm that lidyt and chert is the same thing. As category names should be in English, I guess it can be deleted, anyway. I'll do it, if there are no objections, soon. --rimshottalk 12:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Deleted, Polish category name. --rimshottalk 18:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
This category should be renamed to "Category:Liancourt Rocks". This group of islets is disputed by Japan and South Korea, and has the Japanese name "Takeshima" and the Korean name "Dokdo." English Wikipedia settled the dispute over the article title by using the English name of French origin, "Liancourt Rocks" after long long edit wars (see w:en:Talk:Liancourt Rocks). --Nanshu 10:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Support Neutral name sounds advisable here. --rimshottalk 11:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)- supportLiancourt Rocks is probably safer.Geni 22:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Moved to Category:Liancourt Rocks --rimshottalk 15:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
delete, typo. New category category:Marl (Kreis Recklinghausen) --Jo 21:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Done, next time you can use {{Bad name}} for typos. --rimshottalk 14:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
delete. Name is obviously a typo AND an inneccessary subdivison. The Mineral Autunite ([Ca(UO2)2(PO4)2·10-12H2O], see Autunit) is a Uranium-bearing mineral named after the french city Autun and has it's own category. The name Autinite seems to be a turkish variation of it (see turkish mineralogy site), but in this case obviously a typo (see original page of only picture in this category, Meta-Autinite from California-Nevada State Line). Second reason is the Meta-tag, denominating a metamorphic rock. Meta-Autunit would be a specific metamorphosed mineral, which is not possible (the mineral would change it's mineralogical properties and become another mineral, with another name). I hope I did really shake you with that description :) If you have problems with it, talk to me --Jo 22:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Deleted. --rimshottalk 14:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Corse has been merged to Category:Corsica, but Category:Brittany has just been merged to Category:Bretagne. Category:Normandie was previously merged to Category:Normandy and deleted. However we haveCategory:Burgundy being merged to Category:Bourgogne. Is there any consistency in all this? Are we expected to be consistent? --Man vyi 11:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Please! Let the people of a country name their regions, cities and rivers! In the previous discussion, I read : “UK English should be used for UK related subjects”. Why French names should not be used for French subjects? ‘Corse’ is the French name of this island, region and people. Wikimedia should respect that. --Fr.Latreille 21:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wikimedia Commons is a multi-lingual project, with the exception of category naming. Category names should be in UK English (en_UK locale). This does not have anything to do with (a lack of) respect, it has to do with future support for multi-lingual category naming. If the categories are a mess now, it will be a s**tload of work to correct later. Siebrand 09:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Fixing the mess: categories are in English. 哦，是吗？(висчвын) 18:01, 17 May 2008 (GMT)