Wikidata talk:Interwiki conflicts

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m:Interwiki synchronization move to here?-Shizhao (talk) 02:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As long as this project is just in development I don't think it would be useful to move it to here. Maybe later when the most Wikipedias are using Wikidata. --Bene* (talk) 06:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would make sense to move it here. The meta page is not very active either (perhaps 10 contributors in 4 years). Additionally, it would be better to have solved as many interwiki conflicts as possible before deployment to Wikipedia. Plus it is much easier to solve the problems here, as the software automatically checks for duplicates.--Zolo (talk) 06:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I believe there is such a discussion in any wiki (for example, w:ru:Википедия:Форум/Интервики in ruwiki. Maybe just add See also topic? Zanka (talk) 15:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archive

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Maybe it is time to start archiving the page? Zanka (talk) 15:39, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. I think we should also try to standardize layout to make it more readable. --Zolo (talk) 15:47, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do you like the one from Wikidata:Requests for deletions? I could add it here, too. --Bene* (talk) 15:53, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It looks fine to me, thanks.--Zolo (talk) 15:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. --Zanka (talk) 16:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do you like it? --Bene* (talk) 16:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Old conflicts or resolved conflicts? I believe we should archive resolved conflicts only. Zanka (talk) 17:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think we could use templates, put it in the item talk page (or a subpage or it) and trasclude it here). That would allow more standardized description, and it would also make it more likely that interested people will see the talk about the conflict, than if they have to check this page directly. Something like Talk:Q16518 ? --Zolo (talk) 09:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One thing problem is that manually transcluding the interwiki discussion on several pages is a bit tedious. A "discuss interwikis" script would be a nice addition ;). --Zolo (talk) 10:41, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add it!!! And I have changed the template {{Interwiki conflict}} a bit so there are now three categories: Category:Interwiki conflicts, Category:Interwiki conflicts in doubt and Category:Interwiki conflicts resolved --Bene* (talk) 11:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Check your sample, please. There is a conflict template on Talk:Q16518 that contains Q16158 and Q16523. Numbers are different. I believe that one of the items in template should be the same as item where template is placed. In addition, template should be placed on both/several item talks. I don't know how it is difficult. Zanka (talk) 12:41, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know anything about the sample because i didn't create it. Of course, there should be a notify on all pages so I added this small red link at the top of the itemlink to create the discussion. --Bene* (talk) 13:01, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I had made a typo in the sample, fixed now.
Thanks for your edits Bene. The "not resolved" cases are certainly the most important, however I think they should be in a subcategory, just like the others. That would keep the category structure clean. Something like Category:Interwikis conflicts/pending, Category:Interwikis conflicts/resolved and Category:Interwikis conflicts/in doubt, similar to Commons:Category:French FOP cases ?
Yes it makes sense to transclude the discussion on all concerned item talk pages. I think the best solution would be: a script creating a page called Wikidata:Report interwiki conflicts/Request XX, and transcluding it to {{Wikidata:Report interwiki conflicts/Request XX}} to Wikidata:Report interwiki conflicts and to all relevant talk pages. This is a rather standard process on Commons, and I think on Wikipedia as well. --Zolo (talk) 13:13, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than using so much subpages, I think keeping the page simple and easy to respond is much more important.Justincheng12345 (talk) 14:11, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
One way to keep user requests usable is to make them edtable from relevant talk pages. The easiest way to do it is probably transcluding talk pages. Having dedicated subpages also helps with categorization. --Zolo (talk) 07:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Something like Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts ? --Zolo (talk) 12:05, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki linking connects different items

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Interwiki links are connecting articles with the same subject, but often there are not identical items.

Example:

Changed to:

  • Q38750: Prasat Suor Prat
    • DE: Prasat Suor Prat
  • Q38788: Yearbook for Media and History
    • DE: Studienkreis Rundfunk und Geschichte

--Media watch (talk) 17:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see the problem with Q38750 (they all appear to refer to exactly the same thing), but I definitely agree that imperfect synonymities between two articles will be a major question. By the way, I left a message at de:Diskussion:Anger, that appears to raise that problem as well. --Zolo (talk) 21:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Another example is Q48439, where the en interwiki is about two distinct congresses while the German one is about just one.--Zolo (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've separated the interwiki linking and restored the orignal items. The towers in Angkor Thom (Cambodia) are now a separat item: Q50635 (Prasat Suor Prat). --Media watch (talk) 08:16, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, my bot is adding interwikiconflicts all the time and the list grows very fast. It would be nice if someone else might have a look at the list and maybe you have also some improvements of the data-design. I am glad about comments. --Bene* (talk) 19:26, 25 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible for interwiki map? And is that allowed to upload interwiki map?--JC1 14:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And is that possible to notify users who would like to resolve those conflicts? That is, if a specific language gets a conflict, notify a user which has his name on a page, and state which language he would like to resolve.--JC1 11:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thats all possible. ;-) How exactly do you want do get the data? There are many oppertunities and I hope I display them as good as possible. --Bene* (talk) 16:31, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Create subpages by language. Users who want to work with the list will add it in a watchlist much easier. Plus it could be announced on language specific pages. --Zanka (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, but will that generates too many pages?-JC1 10:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Generate subpages by request only. For example, someone said that he is going to check "es" conflicts. Generate es-subpage. The only point is what if no conflict for the language yet? Maybe it is better to use both: subpages and notification? For large list it would be better to use subpages (en, fr, etc), for small list or no list better to use notification. Partially configurable. I mean if user wants notification for every enwiki conflict - welcome, but if you want subpage, please, find out how many conflicts you actually have. Additional job for bot owner, of cause, but it should be possible. --Zanka (talk) 13:36, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've already created subpages. I also see that some of them are too small. Maybe we could make language areas and conclude similar languages. It would also be possible to notify users if they want that. --Bene* (talk) 15:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Feature request: do not report if the link already exists, for example 三明治課程 from User:BeneBot*/conflicts/zh--JC1 15:48, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, it's a bug. I'll fix it. Regards, --Bene* (talk) 16:39, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Bene*, this is a great thing! I just found copy-paste move on Finnish Wikipedia, thanks for your bot report :) --Stryn (talk) 16:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why are there two sites which are dealing with the same? What are the differences about this site? I think we should discuss ans solve all interwiki conflicts on one site. --Sk!d (talk) 19:33, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done :) Conny (talk) 22:05, 12 December 2012 (UTC).[reply]
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Maybe possible to change via bot? Conny (talk) 17:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC).[reply]

preload help needed

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Want to add here a sectionline. Not sure what Text for this to choose... Thanks for help. Conny (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2012 (UTC).[reply]

And it should create subpages. Conny (talk) 17:54, 11 December 2012 (UTC)!![reply]

orga via subpages?

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Please find as a sample Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts#Q22652 - the content is stored in Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Q22652. User Zolo builded a template for this, the process needs some refine yet, that subpage if wished gets created automatically. On the usertalkpage Zoto writes: "...my idea was to create subpages for each interwiki conflicts, like for instance in Commons:COM:Deletion requests, so that we can see the discssion both on the interwiki conflict page and on item talk pages. That is rather tedious to add by hand in all pages...". I would ask, is there support for this way of workflow? Thx for comments, Conny (talk) 22:05, 12 December 2012 (UTC).[reply]

  • discussion
    • Only partially related to subpages: I would like to suggest that subpages and sections are identified by a phrase rather than a Q-number. That would be "art history" instead of "Q22652" in the example above. Browsing for certain conflicts is much easier if you don't have to decode the Q-numbers in a table of content or in subpage names. -- Make (talk) 17:59, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      The problem with this is that there might be overlapping names, so you might have the problem that there are two different Conflicts with the same name etc, if you do it by Q-number every conflict is unique and if you try to create an old conflict you see the old conflict. Another problem is the language people might create conflictnames in other languages then English. --Sk!d (talk) 13:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I created a list of missing page for each wiki. All these subpages have a section "conflicts" for pages that could not be imported automatically by my bot. Merlissimo (talk) 22:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archive, part 2

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The page needs a cleanup and archiving. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I started first achive page here: Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Archive/2012/11. Feel free to add more resolved conflicts. --Stryn (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Could we add a template like de:Vorlage:Autoarchiv-Erledigt? I think this work should be done by a bot. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Idea

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Actually, I do the request for the french wikipedia, but for that, I have to request every request....

I think if we can show into the synthetic template of each request which wikipedia or which language is concern by the request, everyone will gain some times. The language concerned could be in the right of the "Items implied", there is place for that. --Nouill (talk) 16:45, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two questions

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a) Is the reviewer of these conflicts expected to run off to various wikipedias to "correct" them (which I don't mind doing if it is not a massive change and I'm familiar with the language), or are we simply reviewing whether the Wikidata Item setup is reasonable, and leaving it for the wikipedias to eventually delete local links or keep their own preference, or whatever.
b) Why does the initial filing of a conflict not create a new page (good), just a section, but if I click on "add your thoughts" instead of "edit section", it wants to create a new page? Can we get rid of the new page function in the template? It's inconsistent behaviour. Or alternately, create a new page when the new conflict is filed. Espeso (talk) 05:43, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sibling conflicts

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I'm not exactly sure where to ask this question, but I'm surprised that I actually was able to look through different help pages at different projects and not to find the answer to my question. The problem is: There are many Wikipedia articles about siblings, and also some about artist duos, etc., and of course not all Wikipedias do the same grouping. E.g., most Wikipedias have an article about en:Lindsay and Sidney Greenbush, while no: has separate articles for no:Lindsay Greenbush and no:Sidney Greenbush - the latter one linked via Q1826328 to the other articles, while the last one does not have an interwiki link. Categories like en:Category:Sibling groups deliver dozens of examples for this, that easily can get even more complicated, so e.g. several Wikipedias do have an article about en:Speusippus, Eleusippus and Melapsippus, while mk: and sr: also include their sister (or grandmother) Leonilla to this group (e.g. sr:Певсип, Елевсип, Малевсип и Леонила, and nl: named the whole article nl:Leonilla - they all share Q1505432. To stick with my first example, as it's the easier and more common case: Would it be appropriate to remove the no: link from Q1826328 (as it does not cover the same subject, the sibling group)? But then again, for many other languages, there's already aliases like "Lindsay Greenbush" and "Sidney Greenbush" for that group item - wouldn't they also have to be removed then? What's with redirects? Should an item for Lindsay be created and redirects like en:Lindsay Greenbush added as site links to this (even though they are redirects that point somewhere else)? For some articles this already is done this way, e.g. de:Oliver Samwer (Q1112862), who is part of de:Samwer-Brüder (Q103141, where I recently removed the link to en:Alexander Samwer, for whom no own item does exist, though). This may be an artefact of recent merger of Samwer brothers articles in de:, though. --YMS (talk) 16:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that different subjects should not be linked directly (in one "Q"), but we should not lose the links also. I propose to link separate articles where exist (no:Lindsay Greenbush) to redirects where only general article exists (Lindsay Greenbush). This approach allows us to keep link from NO to EN, but we lose link from en:Lindsay and Sidney Greenbush to NO... Unless we create some disambig in NO to which we link EN article! Infovarius (talk) 11:14, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I've created no:Greenbush which can be linked with en:Lindsay and Sidney Greenbush (it's possible to rename in the same name). Infovarius (talk) 11:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally, every project should have three pages for such cases, but the question is what should we do in a non-ideal world.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Needless to say, we live in a non-ideal world. In most cases, having one group article instead of two single articles has probably been actively decided to avoid redundancy or splitting up information that belongs together. But if it was decided once that having an article for A and one for B is bad, and having an AB article is better, then it's probably not wanted to now have three articles A, B and AB, where A and B possibly might only state "A (or B) is part of AB" (or the other way round, A and B contain the information, AB just reads "AB consists of A and B"). Just cleaned up a more popular example (most of the work there has been done by User:Raoli long before, actually): about 48 Wikipedias have an article on Romulus and Remus (Q2197), 7 others do not have this article but one on Romulus (Q2186) and only 5 decided to have both articles. Only 6 in total decided also to have Remus, Q1242632, which makes ja: and nl: the only two of 55 60 Wikipedias caring for that subject to have all three articles. --YMS (talk) 10:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to add redirect ru:Рем (мифология) to Q1242632, but I couldn't... Infovarius (talk) 11:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have a similar question.
I've created an item for "GNU/Linux". "GNU/Linux" is subclass or instance of "GNU variants" (based on "GNU") and of "Linux" (based on "Linux kernel"). While I think there are people who would really like to merge "GNU/Linux" and "Linux" (for interwikis' sake or whatever), I hope they don't, and instead Wikidata supports a solution for that. I don't know if there are Wikipedias with separate articles on "GNU/Linux", "Linux" and "Linux kernel", but, for a similar example, there are ones where there are separate articles on "Debian GNU/Linux" and "Debian".
I don't know if there is any solution planned. What I imagined is:
  1. A human knows that articles on Linux and GNU/Linux are poorly connected.
  2. The human runs a bot or a gadget to find items which are related to Linux and have complementary (or close to complementary) sets of Wikipedia links.
  3. The bot checks subsets and supersets of Linux (although the human should probably specify that a subset is needed), and finds "GNU/Linux" (and maybe several other items).
  4. The human links "Linux" and "GNU/Linux" with a property. The property makes the articles linked in the items use interwikis from both, first taking ones from their own set, and then gathering missing (complementary) ones from the other sets. Maybe in the interwiki list, the "fuzzy-matched" links would be marked with something like parenthesis.
--AVRS (talk) 21:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC) (the comment was updated)[reply]
Both "GNU/Linux" and "Linux" (as OS) could be discussed in same article with explaining the distinction. Linux (kernel) merits it's own article (large articles, also used in non-GNU systems like Android). Likewise Debian (project) and Debian (OS distribution) can be separate, but I think the GNU/non-GNU distinction could be explained in same article easily. Ipr1 (talk) 17:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also linking to "GNU"-variant can be misleading when there is no explicit connection to GNU (non-GNU license, not depending on GNU software stack etc.) so that can make things worse when used incorrectly (misleading erroneous link). Unlike at the beginning of Linux-project these days there are many non-GNU alternatives to many software and it is not always obvious which is used in a particular case (both maybe used at same time even): this also is one reason to explain the difference in one article rather than try to split it in two distinct camps. Ipr1 (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I guess links to redirects are a solution to this, though I hope such interwikis are marked somehow on articles' sidebars. --AVRS (talk) 08:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speed/velocity

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What should we do if Speed and Velocity in russian don't differ and are denoted by one term - ru:Скорость? Infovarius (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Given that velocity is a more general form of speed, I would say put the Russian link in the "velocity" item. --Izno (talk) 20:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Different Item (film) with same IMDb number

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Potential conflicts: in User:ValterVB/Sandbox/IMDb/Film you can found a list of different item with same IMDb number Based on database dump of 2013/04/17. --ValterVB (talk) 16:33, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

many of them are seasons and episodes of the same serial. --Akkakk (talk) 16:52, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Different Item with same Authority control

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  1. VIAF n. 14528812 in Q230722 and Q497613
  2. VIAF n. 7576405 in Q570279 and Q1369246
  3. VIAF n. 15229 in Q1090185 and Q1701097
  4. LLCN n. n91044665 in Q158768 and Q158772
  5. GND n. 119408643 in Q34286 and Q156898
  6. GND n. 7712461-3 in Q272026 and Q1481481
  7. GND n. 133780406 in Q188120 and Q5369007
  8. ISNI n. 0000 0001 2117 1587 in Q1090185 and Q1701097
  9. ISNI n. 0000 0001 1464 0648 in Q335556 and Q3777488

--ValterVB (talk) 20:30, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

solved some --Akkakk (talk) 22:08, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Two items about the same film (Q6144918 / Q1428715)

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I was about to move the "es" link from one to the other, but noticed that they have two articles on the same film. As I don't edit es, what is one meant to do? I added P:P460 for now. --  Docu  at 15:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1. Why this talk page? :) 2. On their article es:The_Negotiator there's a template about the necessity to merge. I think we can safely delete Q6144918 here because these articles will be sooner or later merged. --Michgrig (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we could resolve this specific one by editing es_wiki, but eventually, another similar one will come up.
In any case, if we delete Q6144918 now, a bot might re-create it if the two es articles aren't merged soon (the template is there since November). --  Docu  at 16:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC) (edited)[reply]
if we delete Q6144918 now, a bot might re-create it if the two es articles aren't merged soon - Yes, you are right, I haven't though about it. --Michgrig (talk) 16:14, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I performed the merge myself. It was a duplication of articles. One was much more complete than the other so I merely redirected the less complete version to the one with more info. If es.wikipedia wants the name of the old page they can go through a rename proposal. I've deleted the now empty item. Delsion23 (talk) 17:41, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Chess: the Italian game

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The interwiki's around the chess opening 'Italian' contain some conflicts, due to the fact that in one language the definition of the Italian game is slightly different than in another language. I propose to base the interwiki's on the content and not on the title of the articles. This will lead to the following:

  • 1. 1.e4 e5 2.Pf3 Pc6 3.Lc4 Lc5

Interwiki between the following articles: ca:Giuoco piano, en:Giuoco Piano, es:Giuoco Piano, ja:ジオッコ・ピアノ, pt:Abertura Giuoco Piano, ro:Giuoco Piano, zh:瑞高鋼琴, cs:Italská hra, de:Italienische Partie, el:Ιταλική Παρτίδα, eo:Itala malfermo, fr:Partie italienne, he:פתיחה איטלקית, lt:Itališkoji partija, mk:Италијанска партија, no:Italiensk åpning, pl:Partia włoska, ru:Итальянская партия, sv:Italiensk öppning, uk:Італійська партія, kk:Итальян партиясы, nl:Italiaans (schaakopening), tr:Giuoco Piano

  • 2. 1.e4 e5 2.Pf3 Pc6 3.Lc4

Interwiki between: ca:Obertura italiana (escacs), en:Italian Game, es:Apertura italiana, pt:Abertura italiana, fi:Italialainen peli, is:Ítalskur leikur, zh:義大利開局

  • 3. 1.e4 e5 2.Pf3 Pc6 3.Lc4 Lc5 4.d3

Interwiki between: it:Partita di gioco piano, nl:Giuoco pianissimo,

  • 4. 1.e4 e5 2.Pf3 Pc6 3.Lc4 Lc5 4.c3

Article: it:Partita italiana; no interwiki.

Bob.v.R (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Items with interwiki links are, with the exception of disambiguation pages, almost always based on the topic and not the name of the page. There are a few exceptions due to odd practices on some wikis, but if the definitions do not line up well here, go for it. --Izno (talk) 02:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Basing it on the games' ECO codes seems to be the best bet here... you can also build hierarchy with them using subclass of (P279). Littledogboy (talk) 12:10, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Bob.v.R (talk) 15:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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In the past I was able to link to a redirect when in the targetpedia the subject only had a section rather than its own article. That is no longer possible, at least not with the means us normal editors have. is this meant to be that way or is there a workaround? In particular I am looking at en:Mariensäule which should be linked from de:Mariensäule (München) Agathoclea (talk) 13:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there was wide consensus to support redirect pages by Wikidata. Unfortunately, so far this has not been implemented by the development team. For now, I think, the best you can do is to add links to redirects in the old format. I also leave links to the other item on talk pages for such items. Littledogboy (talk) 16:28, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Addbots Notes

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Hi all interwiki conflict solvers! I added a new feature to addbot to try and detect interwiki conflicts while it scan interwiki links on wiki pages. Take a look at there list which shows all projects and then each sub page for each project which now has a new collum called 'Info'! This contains very verbos infomation "Conflict(q1882685, Q11019)" for example which simply says the bot tried to import the links from enwiki: Machine (mechanical) but failed due the said conflict! I hope someone will find this helpfull! ·addshore· talk to me! 15:14, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Transliteration

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Enable it from Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets (transliteration)

I've added a simple gadget that via transliteration may help solving conflicts. Please enable it from Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets (transliteration). I hope it would be helpful. –ebraminiotalk 23:02, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Thank you so much! It will be useful. --Zerabat (talk) 01:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

this page has to many edit conflicts

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Hi! I got four times an "edit conflict" message
Please remove the duplicates of project:Interwiki conflicts|oldid=85150577#fictional character (Q95074)/(no label) (Q15142397) as 2 and 3 and 4. Maybe the page is to huge. Thanks! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 06:21, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Got an edit conflict five times. And then I saw my report five times . Sander1453 (talk) 12:10, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But hey, thanks for the good work. Sander1453 (nl talk)

Autoarchive?

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@Izno: Thank you for the new design of the interwiki conflict pages. Will there also be an autoarchive function? Something like Template:Autoarchive_resolved_section. --Zuphilip (talk) 11:40, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My feeling is that whatever archiving service should archive based on the template present ({{Interwiki conflict}}) rather than requiring the addition of a new template. Either way, for now, it's manual. As it is, it usually gets cleaned up once a month or so, and I can go back to looking at it once a week. We might see if HazardBot could be programmed to handle those pages. --Izno (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

horseshoe crab vs atlantiv horseshoe crab and plwiki

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plwiki's Skrzypłocz shoud probably refer to "horseshoe crab" as a more interwiki-linked article, but "atlantic horseshoe crab" might be more precise. Anyway, the current state indicates that there is no plwiki article for the genre of species, which is probably not the case ... or not a different case than with dozens of other languages linked to the "horseshoe crab". 89.67.103.169 01:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki confilct

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The article about Jorge Lepra has interwikis between spanish and english versions, but the article is also available in german. When I tried to link it, this message appeared:

Site link Jorge Lepra is already used by item Q15821662. 
Perhaps the items should be merged and one of them deleted? Request deletion of one of the items at Wikidata:
Requests for deletion, or ask at Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts if you believe that they should not be merged.

I don't understand what's going on, the article should have the 3 versions linked. Can anybody fix it? Muchas gracias! --Elulene (talk) 14:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The articles are es:Jorge Lepra, en:Jorge Lepra and de:Jorge Lepra. --Elulene (talk) 14:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Elulene: ✓ Done I merged the pages. If you want to learn how pages are merged (you may find another problem in the future), please see Help:Merge. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 16:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Which page should I post at?

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When the question at hand is not primarily to have technical stuff fixed, but also to find out what the solution should look like. The problem has yet to be clearly defined, i.e. there's a huge mess concerning more than two properties. There's a substantial amount of work needed to sort out which articles have been wrongly linked to the same property, and to design a solution. I certainly don't speak all the languages involved. Help is needed. Where should I post regarding this subject?

I posted at Wikidata:Project chat. Someone suggested this page to me, but this looks more like a tech page to me. I'm confused. Maybe it is actually better to post on a bunch of Wikipedias to try and collect help in sorting things out, than trying to do it at Wikidata? and then go here when the solution is designed? --Stighammar (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki conflict

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The pages Oghul Qaimish (everything but French) and Oghul Qaïmich (French) should be merged. Anticipated thanks ! Linguiste (talk) 11:51, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Communications Security Establishment Canada from English to Portuguese

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The English to Portuguese goes to "Clube Sociedade Esportiva" , a soccer club and not to "Communications Security Establishment Canada " which would be the correct portuguese version of the page. It is being redirected (wrongly) I did try to correct but couldn't - it always return to the soccer club.174.119.186.49 13:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)Talencar[reply]

Communications Security Establishment Canada - English to Portuguese

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Communications Security Establishment Canada - English to Portuguese goes to "Clube Sociedade Esportiva" , a soccer club and not to "Communications Security Establishment Canada " which would be the correct portuguese version of the article. I did try to correct but couldn't - it always return to the soccer club.Talencar (talk) 13:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)Talencar[reply]

Interwikifusion

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Can someone fusion de:Kategorie:Homosexualität in der Kultur und en:Category:LGBT in culture 178.11.184.223 09:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The English category with this name does not exist.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:46, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Assessment

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Könnte jemand Q7160398 und Q2067088 vereinen? Und warum kann nicht mit der Fehlermeldung, die mich beim Versuch des Eintragens darauf hinweist, dass der Konflikt besteht, auch ein Link zu einem How-To sein? --Mabschaaf (talk) 19:03, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done--Ymblanter (talk) 20:02, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Güllaç

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I made the "güllaç" (güllaç (Q1501043)) article in CA:WP. Now I have IW links to several languages. I can see the Catalan version in all of those WPs except the Spanish WP. Moreover, I took the Spanish version as a basis for my text and added a note to it that it was translated from ES:WP. Can someone have a look at this please? Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 14:07, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did you try purging the page? Just add '?action=purge' to the URL at es:Güllaç. - FakirNL (talk) 10:05, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, but now it is OK. I think you did something. Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 11:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Language

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The item language has a conflict I don't know how to resolve. English "language" corresponds to Italian "linguaggio" and "lingua" and to French "language" and "langue", two separate concepts. --SynConlanger (talk) 10:37, 11 August 2015 (UTC) P.S. Actually, there are separate items of the two concepts so there is no real conflict. Sorry, I'm new. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do in this case. --SynConlanger (talk) 10:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How long does it last?

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Unresolved conflicts are rarely treated. Isn't there any helper who checks the requests? – In the case of Delphi (Q487378) vs. delete (Q4037189) I could merge the items by myself. But I need hints which of them should be kept. I'm waiting for an answer since 2016-02-17. -- Juetho (talk) 09:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Juetho: Two of the WPs has each item linked to separate articles, so they cannot be merged, that wiki differentiates somehow. Best you will be able to do is move the respective links to the other article.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:32, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject

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I started a WikiProject Duplicates, which includes all kinds of duplicates, interwikiconflicts included. Can I put the WikiProject on the template of the Interwiki conflicts? The link to the project: Wikidata:WikiProject Duplicates. Q.Zanden questions? 23:18, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fault with archiving solved conflicts

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The page Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts/Archive/2016/12 already exists, but december hasn't even started yet, so I guess there are all the subjects that are on that page have to be replaced to the right archivepage? Q.Zanden questions? 17:02, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Archives

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What is the date to archive an item to? The date of asking the conflict or the date the conflict was solved? I'm trying to get all items in the right archivepage, so it would be great if there are some guidelines for archiving conflicts. Q.Zanden questions? 13:33, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Add section

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With the possibility to create a new section at the WD:Interwiki conflicts/Unresolved/2017 every new section is set at the end of the page. But there is also a category. Is it possible to adjust the settings that the new section will be added after the last section, but before the category? Otherwise it has to be changed every time a new section is added. Q.Zanden questions? 13:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Categories don't have to be at the bottom of the page, it is more a convention for WPs. Better to move them out of the way of the new sections.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Even on WPs it's convention to have categories at the top on discussion pages. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 14:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's an even better solution, I didn't thought of it yet. Thanks you, I will place it on top. Q.Zanden questions? 17:31, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The total mess?

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I suggest look at this:

Wiki Instance of organised crime in a gang primally instance of crime related to robbery/thiefs Include robbing from the rich and giving to the poor and folk heroes This is narrow concept, related to activity in concrete region
pl:Zbójnictwo (As analogical people to this term there is pl:zbójnicy) Yes Yes Yes Yes
cs:Zbojnictví (As analogical person to this term there is cs:Zbojník) Yes Yes Yes Yes
nl:Struikroverij (as analogical person there is redirect nl:Struikrover) Yes Yes Yes No
en:Banditry (as analogical person there is redirect en:Bandit but d:Q1521259 exist) and most of d:Q10968653 Yes No No No
it:Banditismo Yes Yes No No (there is it:Banditismo nell'età moderna and it:Brigantaggio)
hi:डकैती No Yes No No (there is d:Q16241335
ja:盗賊 No Yes No No
cy:Banditiaeth (It is most propably en:Template:Cleanup reorganize) ?? ?? ?? ??
fa:راهزنی Most propably it compare with d:Q915425 Yes No No Yes
zh:盜賊 No Yes No No

It can be difficult to settle Dawid2009 (talk) 21:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Better explanation for newcomers

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I had a discussion with Eric on his talkpage (see here for the full discussion) about a clearer explanation how to introduce the term Q-number to the newcomers that want to add an interwikiconflict. His suggestion was:

Replace "Q1" and "Q2" (Wikidata's unique identifier numbers assigned to every article topic, found next to the topic name in the interwiki link editing interface) with the corresponding Q numbers of the topics/(article names) that are in conflict. Describe the problem after "discussion = ".

At least these two things need to be clearer said in the dialog:

1) Every wiki article (or topic?) has a unique identifying number (the item number), beginning with the letter "Q".
2) The number can be found next to the article's name in the "Edit links" dialog accessed via the Languages section of the article's navigation panel.
I hope we can make it better for the newcomers! --Q.Zanden questions? 18:39, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all, and thanks for posting this here, Q.Zanden! In order to introduce the Wikidata article numbering system to newcomers, I was thinking we might add something like the above guidance to the Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts page. Maybe as a note in small text under the Add a new interwiki conflict report button. I would try adding the guidance myself, but as I'm inexperienced with Wikidata, I think maybe it should be done by someone more familiar with the system, in case I've worded it wrong. Thanks in advance for any input. Eric (talk) 18:50, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Confused newcomer here - are the Q numbers on the Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts page the same number that appears after the name of the Wikidata item on each Wikidata page, or is there a different Q number for the Wikipedia article that is linked to that Wikidata item? Leschnei (talk) 00:24, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What happens after Wikipedia merge?

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When 2 Wikipedia pages are merged, does a bot merge their Wikidata pages eventually, or does this need to be done by hand? I merged Eleanor de Poitiers and Aliénor de Poitiers Wikipedia pages, and I tried to use the merge gadget to merge their Wikidata pages, but it generates an error. If it needs to be done by hand, then I completely agree with the comment above this one - I am a relative newcomer, and I have no idea how to fill out the interwiki conflict report. Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 00:13, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

However, that the merge gadget generates an error doesn't mean there's an interwiki conflict. Note that my favourite tool did not fail me :) Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:31, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I didn't know about that page. I'll use it in the future. And thanks for the merge. Leschnei (talk) 14:39, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]



Ontology mismatches: Bonnie & Clyde, hatmaker & hatmaking, potato and potato-species

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These aren't conflicts per se, but they result in a broken interwiki map. Before wikidata it was fine to have an asymmetric interwiki tree: Two different articles in SR could link to the same article in SW. Now that's impossible: one of the SR articles will be interorphaned. This seems the closest related dicsussion in recent months: Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Allow_the_creation_of_links_to_redirects_in_Wikidata... curious how often this comes up among conflicts that make it to this page. Sj (talk) 19:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lampadarius

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The Greek language article el:Λαμπαδάριος indicated as an article page in Q12880087. The other articles, en:Lampadarius and pt:Lampadário (ofício), indicated as a Wikimedia disambiguation page in Q4253632. Please, fix the properties to include the three articles together and ru:Лампадарий along as Wikimedia disambiguation page. --Francois-Pier (talk) 06:21, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

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Hello,

I try to merge Plateau du Golan to Golan Heights but fails to achieve the operation.

Could someone proceed to the move ?

Thank you, 2A02:2788:925:F87E:1526:9ADB:618E:57F2 14:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merged. - FakirNL (talk) 15:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Portuguese ESC 2019's Act

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Hi, i'm here to ask to merge this wikidatas:

The reason is because both of them have as their subject the national selection that was used to decree the national entry for the ESC 2019.

Could someone proceed to the move?

Thank you, Dominikcapuan 22:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cult and sect

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Not sure if is here where this should be adress. But here it goes. It was called to my attention by another user that seems to be a pretty problematic issue with the different languages variations of the words cult and sect. This requires a certain explaining.

In English, the word "Cult" is a pejorative term in reference to a normally fringe group with certain characteristics like an authoritarian charismatic leader and other stuffs. For example the Branch Davidians is generlly considered to be a Cult.

In English, the word "Sect" is a subdivision of a bigger (normally mainstream) religious body, for example, Shia is a sect of Islam.

In Spanish, for example, the word "Secta" is pejorative term in reference to a normally fringe group with certain characteristics like an authoritarian charismatic leader and other stuffs. For example the Branch Davidians is generlly called "secta".

See the problem?

It seems that for a while the English article of Cult connected with the Spanish article of "Sect" but this was change, probably for well intentioned purposes, by the user User:Gliwrit. I'm guessing that the change is due to a semantic or etymoligical reason. The believe that the English word sect corresponds with the Spanish word secta as they both sound almost identical and/or have the same etymology, same with the opposite, the English word cult with the Spanish word culto (worship in Spanish). However the Englishe concept of Sect do no corresponde with the meaning of Secta in Spanish as explained before.

This issue is not only for Spanish, after checking some of the articles with the use of a Translation app, it seems that the same definition of Seita, Sekte, Sekt, Sekta, etc. means actually "Cult" and not "Sect" and is fact un some of this articles several well-known Cults like the Branch Davidians are mentioned as examples. This is the case in most romance languages but also in some others like Norwayean and Hungarian.

This, nevertheless, may prove complex as in some languages both definitions are included, the original meaning of the word sect as "unorthodox subdision" and of the modern meaning of "cult".

So in those case it might be more complicated to choose wich one should go. The other issue is that are over 50 articles, I reviewed only a couple of them, so a more thorough review should be done. It is also possible that the opposite happens the otherway around and "Cult" in the sense of "Worship" with no pejorative meaning as in the Spanish culto connects to Cult.

Any suggestion on how to deal with this complex issue? --Ochentero (talk) 12:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To further prove my point, I would like to call into the attention of how Aum Ŝinrikjo is mentioned a sect in eo.wikipedia, the groups included in this category of sekte (like The People's Temple and The Family) in ni.wikipedia, how Seita apocaliptica (Apocaliptic sect) in pt.wikipedia connects to Doomsday Cult in en.wikipedia (is not called Culto Apocalíptico), among other many examples. Again, the word sect means cult in other languages different ot English. Some users are taking just the similar spelling and not the meaning for Wikidata. --Ochentero (talk) 15:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arithmetic overflowing and Integer overflowing in Wikipedia in english

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Hi, i want to ask for a change in wikidata items.

was merged with:

But the wikidata item still remain different. This makes that some of the interwiki links don't work. for example:

links to Q669163, but that article is no longer displayed, was merged. I suggest merging both items.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paladium (talk • contribs) at 12:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

ARTICLES WRONGLY added

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Look, the article Hofmann has to Match with Hofmann.

And the article Hoffmann has to match with Hoffmann The unusual DIFFERENCE it's one article has double ff and the other has just one f Thanks who can fix this Real problem! I'd really appreciate it very much!!! RossiLeone (talk) 03:46, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moved es:Hoffmann (apellido) to Q27897615. Added es:Hofmann_(apellido) to Q23907787. - FakirNL (talk) 07:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A mess encrypted on Wikidata, somebody put them together

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This article in English (Pfeiffer (surname)) goes with this German article (Pfeiffer (Familienname)) and the rest of the encrypted articles... Somebody fix it, thank you so much!!! RossiLeone (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. These items are now merged at Pfeiffer (Q16101801). - FakirNL (talk) 07:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chengguan (District) Q9734693/Q403047

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Q9734693 should be part of Q403047. The conflicting entries of Q9734693 should be placed into a new item for a 'Chengguan District disambiguation page' --Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 15:38, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Not possible since both items link to jawiki, yuewiki and zhwiki and only 1:1 matching is possible. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 07:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Q48996554 and Q43060730

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Jabulqa and Jabulsa (Q48996554) and Jabalq and Jabars (Q43060730) need to be merged. Along with Jabulqa and Jabulsa (Q5684285) and Jabulqa (Q5694852)

✓ Done - but statements are missing. --E4024 (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Phylloxera

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Phylloxera is a common name and it is also a scientific name, however the common name refers to a species with a different scientific name. They are all mixed in several languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylloxera_(genus), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylloxera, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylloxera, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daktulosphaira_vitifoliae. --Polinizador (talk) 21:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Frankfurt U-Bahn

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Can Frankfurt U-Bahn (Q164050) and Category:Frankfurt U-Bahn (Q8471361) be merged? Lamberhurst (talk) 11:48, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Because one is about a category and the other isn't. - FakirNL (talk) 13:38, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cold Play Sharks Mechelen (Q97422837) and Mechelen Golden Sharks (Q105605317)

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Please merge both entries about the same Belgian ice hockey team from Mechelen. With kind regards, --2A02:1810:4810:E200:C01C:DF21:D3BB:3C10 15:56, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

→ ← Merged --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Freddy Charlier (Q20436013) and Freddy Charlier (Q18331662)

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Please merge both entries about this Belgian icehockeyplayer and race car driver. With kind regards, --2A02:1810:4810:E200:EC1D:452C:2476:D78D 10:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Belgian Muay Thai practitioners (Q7042043) and Categorie:Belgisch thaibokser (Q106327079)

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Please merge both entries about this subject. With kind regards! --2A02:1810:4810:E200:FC98:DF1C:C705:F6E1 01:58, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bakboord (Q104880215) and Q106840642

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I tried to remove the "info" on the latter, but someone reverted it without giving an explanation as if bots are better. Please undo and make Q106840642 simply redirect to BakboordKlaas `Z4␟` V11:16, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Léonard Steyaert (Q671109)

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Birthdate (and probably also birthplace) probable not correct, see: https://www.olympedia.org/athletes/7547. With kind regards! --2A02:1810:4810:E200:8001:4371:F82E:F555 17:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Belgian marathon runners (Q8296277) and Categorie:Belgisch marathonloper (Q71134122)

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Please merge both entries about the same subject. With kind regards, --2A02:1810:4810:E200:1152:A5D6:7E5A:9817 19:29, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - FakirNL (talk) 10:35, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Catégorie:Club de rink hockey en Belgique (Q60867103) and Categoria:Società di hockey su pista belghe (Q32163402)

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Please merge both entries about the same subject. With kind regards, --2A02:1810:4810:E200:818F:7F1:F519:FAFC 17:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - FakirNL (talk) 08:08, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish peña (Q2739123) is german fels (Q1404150)

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Some of the interwikis of english article en:Crag and tail (of glaciar origin) should be merged with the german article de:felsen. As long as I know this articles about non glaciar originated big prominent rocks are:

The sense of the four articles is the same of german felsen. I also want to detail that the polish Skałka linked with crag and tail is similar to eastern slavic Скала vinculated with the felsen interwikis. The only différence is an slavic suffix -ka. With kind regards!. EBRO (talk) 14:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lamekh (id)

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Hello, I want to move the interwiki link of the id:Lamekh page from Q10923898 item to Q10921342. Is that possible? Given the content of the idwiki article is the same as in the related (Q10921342) item. I think, there was an error in linking the link that made it have to be moved.

~Thank you Fazoffic (talk) 10:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Penrose Forbes Ritchie / Alexander P. F. Ritchie

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Hello, I try to merge [1] and [2] without taking apart some data. I need help. Thanks, --Marc-AntoineV (talk) 08:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done See Help:Merge for instructions. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 12:15, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

vlek (Q112134161) and vlek (Q11732217)

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Please merge both entries about the same subject. With kind regards, --Bouwe Brouwer (talk) 19:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral districts of Slovenia

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Q56291801 (english) and Q19937747 (slovenian) should be merged.-- Bancki (talk) 10:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Bahinia (pondaungensis)

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Hi, i'm here to ask to merge this wikidatas:

It should be named Bahinia. Gerbil (talk) 19:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Setup a bot to archive the "resolved" items or not?

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FWIW, it looks like 30%~60& of items on subpages start from, err, /2015 are having several resolved items not archived, why there's no bots to do so? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Palazzo del Grillo

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I created a double page on Palazzo del Grillo... My page that I created is the one with the reference Q123821201, while the one that already exists is the one with the reference Q27897938... I think the page I created should be deleted... Angelorenzi (talk) 23:03, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done--Ymblanter (talk) 21:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

de:William Barry Wood / it:Bill Wood (cantante)

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It's the same person. ~~ Gerbil (talk) 20:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have merged Q112376414 into Bill Wood (Q18966197). William Graham (talk) 23:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]