Q&A New Checklists Webconferences
Q&A New Checklists Webconferences
Q&A New Checklists Webconferences
Question: This change requires Type B training. Is e-learning planned to be provided by Airbus?
Answer: Airbus identified the minimum required training as level B. Airbus has provided on
AirbusWorld the necessary documentation so that Operators can prepare their own training that
enables them to also cover the customization of their checklists, if any. The presentation
performed during the seminar is available on AirbusWorld in pptx format so that operators can use
some parts as technical support for developing their own e-learning.
Question: CABIN READY function is not in the standard specification. If Airbus considers the
CABIN READY is needed for standard operation, we think that CABIN READY should be included
in the standard specification.
Answer: The CABIN READY memo is an option. Airbus will customize the checklists of operators
that do not have the CABIN READY function.
ould you please explain the reason why AFTER TAKEOFF/CLIMB checklist is
Question: C
deleted?
Answer: The mitigation means, to remove the checklist line to check that the gear is up, are
detailed in the checklist risk analysis:
● Noise+ barber pole VLO on PFD (For the VLO, not possible to differentiate if it comes from
an omission of flaps or gear retraction).
● OVERSPEED audio alert in case VLE/MLE is exceeded
● Periodic fuel check.
However Airbus decided to add another mitigation means by implementing the "ACCELERATION
flow pattern". In the flight crew forgets to retract the landing gear , then he will detect it during the
ACCELERATION flow pattern at slats retraction. This will be detected earlier compared to the
current checklist.
In addition the FCTM will be amended to adjust the ECAM philosophy in case of engine failure:
As we remove the AFTER TAKEOFF checklist, when the flight crew reaches the status page,
there will be no longer checklist to perform. However it is the time where the flight crew should
think if the acceleration flow pattern was properly done. Thus in case of engine failure, the gear
up is checked during acceleration flow pattern at flap 0 selection, and then, a second time,
when reaching the ECAM status page.
Note: It could be also detected in the case of engine failure during takeoff and initial climb as the
first ECAM action line of ENG FAIL/ENG SHUTDOWN is L/G LEVER...UP on A350/A380. It will
be implemented on other aircraft types in future FWC standards.
Question: When I did the A320 TR in 2003, I was told that the wording for ECAM MEMO was not
as per initial Airbus philosophy.
Instead of stating ECAM MEMO...T/O NO BLUE, why not saying ECAM T/O MEMO....NO BLUE;
same for landing, ECAM MEMO...LDG NO BLUE,=> ECAM LDG MEMO...NO BLUE
Answer:
TO or LDG is added at the beginning to avoid confusion between all the possible blue items (TO
MEMO, LDG MEMO, FMA armed mode…)
Question: Does Airbus have a plan to have eQRH capability to obtain data from FOMAX?
nswer: As this is outside the scope of the checklist project, Airbus kindly ask you to create a
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Techrequest, so that the relevant specialist can answer your question.
Question: How can we easily customize "picture" for the flow pattern ? e.g. the PARKING flow
pattern: at easyJet, we apply a lot OETA procedures, and we have added the Y HYD PUMP...OFF
in CM2 parking flow before ENG1 shutdown. We would appreciate having a tool.
Answer: We will provide you with the pictures of the Airbus aircraft cockpits in a separate
document. Regarding the documentation customization, the same tools can be used: ADOC or
FODM.
Answer: Airbus will customize the checklists of operators that do not have the CABIN READY
function.
Question: When are we going to receive advance copies of the SOP documentation?
Answer: Advanced copies of SOP relative to the new checklist are already available in
AirbusWorld at content library/conferences and forums/flight operations wed conferences/ presentations
Advance copy of SOP changes relative to A320/A330/A340 SOP convergence changes will be put
on AirbusWorld Q1 2020.
Question: When will the advance FCOM/FCTM version be available ?(final version)
Answer: The final version will be the one that will be tailored to your aircraft, it will be available in
December 2020 with the normal dispatch of Airbus Operational documentation.
Question: Regarding the deletion of After T/O / Climb checklist, is a MMEL update planned to
take into account the failure of eventual mitigation means if an item of this CL is forgotten ?
Answer: Airbus has not identified any MMEL go item that affects mitigation means for removing
the AFTER TAKEOFF/CLIMB checklist.
Question: Regarding the normal checklist for FWS L70, why do you need to send it as a load?
why it's not part of the FWS L70 main database?
Answer: The normal checklists will be part of the FWS L70 (A380) or FWS S7 (A350). But these
FWS standards will be certified in 2021 only. In order to use the new checklists earlier on the
simulator, Airbus will send a load. Then, if needed, A350/A380 Operators will have the possibility
to update the simulator with this load.
Question: The change that the line "Cabin Crew..........Advised" is removed will induce some
changes in crew communication that before initiating approach, it is better for the cockpit to
inform the cabin to be prepared for that. So in real operation, what kind of solution in this part
should the operators have to consider ?
Answer: There is no change regarding the fact that the flight crew should inform the cabin crew to
prepare for landing. The SOP is unchanged on this aspect. Only the checklist is changed to
remove the check that the cabin crew was advised.
Question: D uring recent training, we had discussed who should press evacuation horn, and an
instructor from other company insisted that the PM is going to control the overhead panel solely.)
Answer: We do confirm PM is NOT the only pilot who controls the overhead panel (e.g. CAPT
PF in emergency evacuation).
Question: In the draft FCTM for the new Checklist, it seems that detailed checklist items are
given in the FCTM. This reduces operator’s ability to customise normal checklist or will require to
customize FCTM ?
Answer: The checklists are documented in the QRH (A320/A330/A340) or FCOM (A350/A380).
The FCTM contains information about the way the checklists should be used (triggers, what to
check, what to call out). It does not reduce the customization ability of the checklists via
FODM/ADOC (A320/A330/A340) or via the ECT software (A350/A380).
Question: If I make a request to Airbus in advance, will this change be provided by Airbus
FCOM/FCTM planned revision?
Answer: There is no plan to change the flight ops documentation based on each operator
request. However, if you have a specific request for documentation customization, Navblue can
address it via a chargeable service
Question: I have forgotten to make the gear up after takeoff in a heavy rain when autothrust
came off by itself. I couldn't recognize it because of a heavy rain. I noticed it after doing the after
takeoff and climb c/l. With this new c/l philosophy, it is unsafe.
Answer: As explained in the rationales, first of all the Acceleration flow is here to cover the case
and, additionally, barber pole would display VLE on the PFD/HUD.
Question: We have no cabin ready function. What if we forgot to notify CA?. There will be no
reminder in landing c/l.
Answer: The cabin crew has to inform the flight crew that the cabin is ready during the approach.
This is a coordinated action between flight crew and cabin crew.
On A320/A330/A340 for aircraft without the option LDG CABIN READY memo we keep the check
that the cabin is ready. The LANDING checklist will be:
CABIN……………………………….…….READY
- LDG GEAR DN
- SIGNS ON
- SPLRS ARM
- FLAPS SET
On A350/A380 the line CABIN CREW...ADVISE is deleted as the mitigation means is either a
CABIN READY memo on EWD (basic on all aircraft), or as an option in the LDG (and T/O) memo.
Question: Will there be more information about new checklist training? This is a systematic
preparation for putting the new checklist into operation. Does the company have to follow the local
bureao's instruction towards this change?
Answer: Checklists and SOP are not part of the aircraft certification, however Airbus recommends
Operators to inform their local authorities of the forthcoming SOP and checklists changes. On that
purpose Operators may use the document “Checklist risk analysis” for discussion with their local
authorities, and present the Operator’s plan to prepare their flight crews to the new checklists and
resulting SOP changes.
Question: In A350/380 added flow pattern that the use of "FLAP 0" "FLAPS zero"; what is the
difference in the wording of "0" and zero?
Answer: In the mockup of the new acceleration flow pattern there is indeed a difference between
FLAP 0 on A350/A380, and FLAP ZERO on A320/A330/A340. This is not justified and will be
harmonized
Question: The file that contains "FCTM changes for new briefing" is not the actual DU. When can
we expect the draft DU?
Answer: The provided advance data are in pdf format. The DUs will be provided with the release
of the ops documation via normal revision at the end of 2020.
ill this new checklist induce the changes in standard callouts?
Question: W
Answer: The FCOM standard callouts section remains unchanged. In order to regroup all
information about the checklists technique in one section, we have made the choice to use the
FCTM. Therefore, the callouts, the checks, the checklist triggers are documented in the same
FCTM section.
Question: For one thing, we understand the objectives of the new checklist. But usually the local
bureau will ask to do more to ensure safety. In such a case,the new checklist will be hard to
implement
Answer: On a case by case basis, Airbus can support you in order to ease the checklists
implementation.
Question: In this one-year preparation to the new checklist published at the end of 2020, will
airbus share any information with us before the end of 2020 if you had received more important
subjects?
Answer: Airbus may have to update the files shared on AirbusWorld. We identify the updates in a
specific document (on AirbusWorld) that lists all the documents that are revised.
Question: D o the briefings go together with the New Checklists or can these be implemented
before the New Checklists?
Answer: The concept of new briefing focussing on threats that can be encountered during the
flight is independent of the new checklists. Some Operators are already performing trials with the
new briefings.
However Airbus’ choice, supported by Operators during 2019 seminars, is to prepare a single
package of modifications of SOP and FCTM to cover both the new checklists and the new
briefings (+ the SOP convergence changes on A320/A330/A340).
Question: When is the date to start the new checklist? Earliest Date.
Answer: There is no mandatory date for implementation. It is up to each operator to decide when
they are ready to deploy the new checklists. On Airbus side, we will release the documentation
update (FCOM, FCTM, QRH) in December 2020.
Question: Regarding the A350 loads, can you confirm the timelines please: Sim load will be sent
in Q1 or Q2 2020 for us to load into ECT and publish to sim. And for the aircraft, is that the same
load, or will that not occur until Q1 2021? Thanks
Answer: For A350/A380, we confirm that Airbus will send the load in Q1 2020, so that you can
update the sim. For the aircraft, this is the same load. However, you need the ECT to import the
load and publish it for installation on your aircraft (for operator without the ECT, Airbus is currently
working on a workaround solution).
On Airbus side, we will release the documentation associated with the new C/L (revised SOPs,
flow patterns, etc) in December 2020. Therefore, we recommend that you update the aircraft after
this date, and when your flight crews are ready.
Question: What is the reason to put the landing gear up after takeoff in a flow?
Answer: The mitigation to remove the checklist line to check the gear is up are detailed in the
checklist risk analysis:
● Noise+ barber pole VLO on PFD (For the VLO, not possible to differentiate if it comes from
an omission of flaps or gear retraction).
● OVERSPEED audio alert in case VLE/MLE is exceeded
● Periodic fuel check.
However Airbus decided to add another mitigation means by implementing the "ACCELERATION
flow pattern". In the flight crew forgets to retract the landing gear , then he will detect it during the
ACCELERATION flow pattern at slats retraction. This will be detected earlier compared to the
current checklist.
In addition the FCTM will be amended to adjust the ECAM philosophy in case of engine failure:
As we remove the AFTER TAKEOFF checklist, when the flight crew reaches the status page,
there will be no longer checklist to perform. However it is the time where the flight crew should
think if the acceleration flow pattern was properly done. Thus in case of engine failure, the gear
up is checked during acceleration flow pattern at flap 0 selection, and then, a second time,
when reaching the ECAM status page.
Note: It could be also detected in the case of engine failure during takeoff and initial climb as the
first ECAM action line of ENG FAIL/ENG SHUTDOWN is L/G LEVER...UP on A350/A380. It will
be implemented on other aircraft types in future FWC standards.
Answer: The ppt is now available on AirbusWorld (in ppt so that Operators can copy images for
their training preparation).
ill Airbus provide any level B training media that airlines can readily use?
Question: W
Airbus has provided on AirbusWorld necessary documentation so that Operators can prepare their
own training that enables them to cover their own customization of the checklist if any.
The presentation performed during the seminar is available on AirbusWorld in pptx format so that
operators can be used some parts as technical support for developing their own e-learning.
Question: Are we allowed to customize the new checklist and if so, do we have to carry out our
own risk assessment?
Answer: you are still allowed to customize the new checklists. But you have to know that the new
checklists contain the minimum checks to carry out, from Airbus's standpoint. You may add
checks. We recommend that you carry out a dedicated analysis if you decide to remove a line.
Your local authorities may also require you to perform a risk assessment when you customize the
new checklists.
Question: Can you reissue the FOT when the presentation with audio record is available?
Answer: We will only reissue the FOT if significant changes justifies it. The presentation with
recorded audio and a pptx version is now (since week 3) available on AirbusWorld. We
recommend operators to check periodically on AirbusWorld if there is any update. Updates are
now identified by a document that lists the documents that have been revised, the date of revision,
and the reason for revision.
Question: For the new briefings... Do we have anything available in the documentation set that
was provided for the new checklists? Or is it only going to be in the new FCTM in 2021? Does that
mean that only the FCTM will be affected and not the SOP?
Answer: For the new briefings, you have on AirbusWorld the presentation from the seminar 2019
with audio record, Advance copy of FCTM. The advance copy of SOP also includes the changes
associated with the new briefings. Airbus is also preparing a video with exemples of briefings.
This video should be ready by the end of Q1 2020 and will be put on AirbusWorld. It will be
published on Airbus WIN (and therefore accessible to any of your pilots) beginning of 2021, once
Airbus releases the associated Ops Doc (end of 2020).
Question: In the document entitled "SOP for new checklist", I see the changes in yellow that are
related to the new checklists. Did I understand that somewhere, we can also see change in blue
that are related to harmonization across all types? If so, where?
Answer: In the document entitled "SOP for new checklist" the changes in yellow are the SOP
changes relative to the new checklists. The changes in blue are A320/A330/A340 SOP changes
to converge towards A350 and A380 SOP.
Answer: Level B training is either a Computer Based Training or a video tape or a stand-up
lecture by an instructor
Question: The changes are quite comprehensive. I understand level B training is through the use
of aided instruction only and no need for any simulator sessions?
Answer: Airbus identified no need for a simulator to become trained for the new checklists. Level
B is a minimum of training and operators may require additional training (more than B) depending
on their own policy .
Question: Can we expect any major changes between the advance copies released in Q1 2020
and the final versions released Nov/Dec 2020?
Answer: The checklists are defined and implemented in the next FWS for A350 & A380. No
changes are foreseen in the checklists. We may have to improve the wording of some parts of
documents when preparing the SOP and FCTM. But we do not expect any major changes.
Question: W e strongly do not agree to do the A380 Flt check while taxi, is it possible to keep in
after start checklist.
Answer: The A380 SOP will be revised to provide flexibility to operators. It will be possible to
perform the flight control check either after engine start or during the taxi (You can refer to the
A380 SOP advance copy on AirbusWorld). But the check that the flight control check has been
performed will be part of the TAXI checklist. As such it is suitable for operators checking the flight
control after engine start and for those checking the flight control during taxi. Checklist
customization is however possible for operators that will always perform the flight control check
after engine start.
Question: I note that on the A380 F/CTL check have been moved to TAXI checklist - are you able
to share the risk assessment with us which concerns this change? By moving the flight control
checks to a flight phase when the aircraft is moving, the risk of ground.
Answer: Since the Entry into service of A380 Airbus has been recommending the flight control
check aircraft stopped just because it is a large aircraft. Now the experience and feedback of
some operators led us to allow A380 operators to choose when to perform the flight control check.
As for any other Airbus aircraft there is no particular risk provided the flight crew ensure that
external conditions are such that one pilot can be head-down during the check. Airbus has no risk
assessment to share, it is more a matter of pilot judgment on external conditions (traffic on
taxiways, proximity of obstacles…)
Either for system or flight crew point of view it gives time to analyse. So it is better to set the radar
ON during taxi rather than for line-up, that is already a high demanding workload phase.
Question: You mention that for operators without cabin ready function on their aircraft that you
can leave that line in the checklist. Does this mean you can customise checklists for operators?
Answer: On A320/A330/A340 for aircraft without the option LDG CABIN READY memo we keep
the check that the cabin is ready. The LANDING checklist will be:
CABIN……………………………….…….READY
- LDG GEAR DN
- SIGNS ON
- SPLRS ARM
- FLAPS SET
On A350/A380 the line CABIN CREW...ADVISE is deleted as the mitigation means is either a
CABIN READY memo on EWD (basic on all aircraft), or as an option in the LDG (and T/O) memo.
Question: With respect to the A319/A320 fleet. Are the changes mandatory? Are there any safety
considerations associated with not adopting the said changes in checklists/procedures? Can we
maintain our current checklists/procedures?
Answer: The new checklists are not mandatory. Current checklists are still efficient.
However Airbus strongly recommends adopting the new checklists as they are the results of
studies and provides operational advantages listed in the presentations (for instance, shorter
checklists, less head-down time, etc.).
The adapted SOP and FCTM will be published at the end of 2020, meaning that operators that do
not stick to the new checklist will have then to customize their operation manual. Such operators
would have to not accept (via FODM or ADOC tool) the parts of Airbus operational documentation
affected by the new checklists (mainly C/L,SOP, task sharing and FCTM). Then each time Airbus
will revise these ops doc parts, these operators will have to analyse the Airbus revisions and
amend by themselves these parts of their operational documentation. It would become a huge
work for them.
Question: What is the anticipated time period between the release of FWS L70 and sim STD 1.5?
Answer: A380 FWS L70 certification is expected mid 2021. Retrofit will follow in the coming
months. The target for Simulator STD 1.5 is end 2021.
Question: Our A380 Simulators are fitted with FWS L52. Will your ETC load be compatible with
this?
Answer: Yes, Airbus has tested the A380 ETC load on simulator. It works on FWS L52 and is
representative of the future checklist hardware coded in the FWS L70 (Mid 2021).
Note: However with the ETC the DEPARTURE CHANGE checklist cannot automatically disappear
after lift off from the checklist menu. On FWS L70 the hardware coding enables removing the
DEPARTURE CHANGE checklist from the menu after after liftoff, that cannot not be done by ETC.
Question: R
WY & SID (Dep change checklist), where is the NAVAID, it may require as well even
Answer: Airbus considers that the terminology SID covers RNAV RNP SID and conventional SID.
Question: CKPT PREP checklist, the DOORS item has been removed. This is currently used to
ensure that the cockpit door is also locked. What mitigation is in place for the aircraft pushing back
with the cockpit door not locked?
Answer: The DOORS item of the current checklists refers to cabin/cargo doors. The C/L does not
cover the cockpit door, since there is no direct consequence on the safe conduct of the flight. On
the other hand depending on the cockpit door locking system, flight crew may have useful
information on the status of the door by visual indication or can be alerted by the cabin crew.
Question: You mentioned that the DOORS check during Before Start is removed because it is
mitigated by ECAM. This ECAM is only for ENG START which will occur after pushback in the
majority of cases and is therefore ineffective. Is there another mitigation?
Answer: The check that the cabin /cargo DOORS are part of the current BEFORE START
checklist to prevent flying with doors not locked closed. DOORS NOT CLOSED ECAM alerts are
the mitigation means to remove this checklist line to prevent takeoff with doors not closed.
The mitigation of the risk of push back with doors not closed (ECAM alert not yet available with
engines off) are:
The detection and alert by the cabin crew or ground personnel, and
The new BEFORE PUSHBACK flow pattern that both PF and PM will follow to apply SOP action
lines.
nswer: Airbus confirms that the discrepancy will be resolved. Taxi SOP should be in the same
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order as the flow pattern. For the A320/A330/A340 it is A/BRK pb.. MAX,
SQUAK...CONFIRM/SET, RADAR/PWS...ON/AUTO,T.O CONFIG pb...TEST, T.O
MEMO...CHECK NO BLUE.
Question: Please confirm AIB will release a new ECL end of 2020 containing the new ECL that
will be compatible with current FWS standards
nswer: Airbus confirms that the Operators having the eQRH option will receive end of 2020 the
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eQRH with the new checklists. We also intend to deliver mid 2020 a generic eQRH (non tailored
to operator MSN) that could be used for training purposes.
Question: O ur Airline currently have a customization where the Captain is Pilot Flying when on
ground (i.e. Captain Taxi's the aircraft). Can we still keep this customization after this SOP
change?
Answer: The new checklist project just leads to small adaptations to SOP. The same philosophy
still applies in terms of PF, PM. An operator that has a customization for having the Captain as PF
when on ground can continue such customization.
Question: M ore checklists but fewer items. Is that perceived as being easier or more challenging
for the pilots?
Answer: Feedbacks from the tests performed by Airbus flight test pilots and by operators parts of
the trials are very positive and found more operational than the current checklists. There are in
fact less checklists and with fewer items.They are clear, concise checklists to ease the crew task
with a title adapted to the flight phase .They limit the head down tasks during the dynamic and
demanding flight phases when the aircraft is moving. Like for instance after takeoff for which the
checklist is removed. They clarify when to start each checklist with a precise trigger condition
Answer: It is up to each Operator to define its own timeline according to their operations and
training programs. Airbus will provide the Ops documentation end of 2020, then up to the
operators to implement the new checklists when they are ready.
Question: W e have concerns about the time taken to complete the LINE UP flows and checklist
when ATC clear you to line up. Airport congestion requires prompt compliance and we receive
violation reports if our aircraft are tardy at Ports such as OMDB.16:02
The use of a cue is sound however it would be vastly more efficient to have a cue of either
receiving line up clearance or reaching the holding position to commence this flow. Currently we
complete the BEFORE TAKEOFF checklist below the line when we can visually identify the
runway intersection and the cabin crew are advised thereby minimising departure delay.
Answer: As an Operator you can define the best time for applying a checklist. For the LINE-UP
checklist the triggers that Airbus has considered as the most appropriate, is when the line-up
clearance is received ( and the BEFORE TAKEOFF flow pattern is completed). However
Operators may adapt the trigger according to their own experience or practice.
Question: T he trigger for the 'line up' checklist is line up clearance received. That then moves this
into a dynamic phase of flight. Does that meet expectations of minimum runway occupancy at
most of the world's busy airports?
Answer: The LINE-UP checklist is very short: Confirm the takeoff runway and packs setting. We
expect operators will have enough time to apply this checklist. If the flight crew thinks that it may
not comply with the minimum runway occupancy time on some specific airports, they may
anticipate the LINE-UP checklist.
Question: W ill there be any implication on the procedures /briefings / checklists for WB? let's say
at least the briefings?
Answer: Similar project for new checklists and new briefing is being prepared for A300/600 and
A310. Airbus will start communicating via FOT with the operators most probably by end Q1 2020.
Question: H ow will the crew confirm if certain flow of procedure has been done, like for example
for the Parking, if seat belts sign or signs will be removed from the new checklist, how will they
confirm if no checklist to follow? even though there's no safety issue
Answer: Airbus objective is to enhance the efficiency of the checklists. To be efficient the
checklists should be short, concise, and cover only items that have a safety issue or significant
consequences if not applied. The flow patterns help memorize SOP actions. Airbus has identified
actions from the current checklist that can be removed as there is no safety issue or appropriate
mitigation means. There is no safety issue if at parking the flight crew forgets to switch the seat
belts signs off. However applying the SOP with the help of the new PARKING flow pattern should
ensure that SEAT BELTS sw is set to OFF.
ill this change only affect the FCTM and QRH? FCOM is not affected?
Question: W
Answer: The FCOM (mainly SOP, description of checklists on A350 & A380 as they are in the
FWS) is also affected by the new checklists. MMEL is also affected when an ops procedure
mentions a checklist whose title is changed.