Manual v3 Honda Edition R10 (En)
Manual v3 Honda Edition R10 (En)
Manual v3 Honda Edition R10 (En)
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First of all, your ECU must be prepared for Chip tuning, ie installed chipping
kit (socket for the chip (round or V-shaped), removed J12 (or J4 for JDM)
and more). Chipping kit is not included with CobraRTP!
Installation in the ECU is done using the pin contacts in the chip socket, as
shown below, using the example of USDM OBD1.
The Datalog is connected to the ECU (connector CN2 ) using a cable from the
kit, as shown above.
As you can see, two data lines are used for the connection - RX and TX ,
respectively 2 and 4 pin of connector CN2 in the ECU. This is true for both USDM,
EDM and the JDM type.
Warning: Do not touch the board when power is on! It can do damage under
static voltage!
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CONNECTION TO PC
3. After installing the drivers, if there is a connected device, the device manager
will display the ports and their numbers:
In windows 7 example
As you can see, one of the ports is for Emulation (RTP), the second is for
Datalog .
Notes: The driver does not have a Microsoft digital signature, therefore, for
correct operation, "Verifying the digital signature of drivers" must be
disabled .
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Check connection
To test the CobraRTP device, you can use CobraRTP Utility .
You can download the latest version on our website in the " Downloads " section.
The number of the required COM-port for emulation (RTP) will be selected
automatically and displayed in the status-bar of the program:
Accordingly, the second added COM-port number when connecting the device
will be used for Datalog.
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Before Running The Emulator In ECtune , HTS , Crome and etc., you Must
Make Sure That The Current Target Software Id Corresponds To The
Program You Intend To Use (See Cobrartp Utility) :
Service->Configurations
To change, you must select the appropriate software in the list and “ Apply” for
saving.
eCtune (OBD1):
You Need To Download The Prepared Version On Our Website on "Downloads"
page.
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Notes
* Port for emulation (same as in CobraRTP utility)
1) Port ( Datalog ) - for datalog , usually one more than the emulation port number (see Device
Manager (COM & LPT)).
3) Datalog speed rate for the datalog (do not neglect).
HTS(OBD0/OBD1):
https://hondatuningsuite.com/
Notes
- Port (Emulator) - for emulation (same as in CobraRTP utility)
- Port ( Datalog ) – for datalog , usually one more than emulation port number (check in Device
Manager (COM & LPT)).
- Baud - data speed, set as in the image.
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Crome (OBD1):
https://www.tunewithcrome.com/
Notes
1) Port for datalog , usually one more than the emulation port number (see Device Manager
(COM & LPT)).
2) The protocol should be selected QD2, or if you are using Crome Gold - QD3 respectively.
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BRE (OBD0) :
http://benogle.com/projects/bre.html
TurboEDIT (OBD0):
https://honda-perf.net/turboedit/TurboEDIT%203.2.2%20Full%20Install.exe
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To switch the mode, you must select the appropriate item and save (the
selected mode is saved in permanent memory).
Notes
1. Wireless way of working datalog (BT) is designed primarily to work with the mobile
application ( TunerView ), as well as with the Honda Tuning Suite. Performance with other
programs is not guaranteed, but possible!
2. To test the Datalog channel in the “Test” tab, use the USB mode.
3. Make sure that the correct COM port for BT datalog is selected, there may be several of them
and it does not correspond to the COM port for USB mode!
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Connection
It is recommended to use a shielded cable for connection to reduce
electromagnetic interference:
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Installation
The knock sensor should be installed on the cylinder block, ideally in the
standard place of the factory KS sensor.
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Connection
Connection
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0-5V Output.
Currently, this output is intended to output parameters such as the processed
knock sensor signal or the level of the ethanol content signal in the fuel.
Output mode [1] Output voltage level Expected parameter/value
KS linear 0-5V 0V Low level
2.5 V Mid-level
5 V [3] High level
Detonation (0V/5V) [2] 0V No detonation detected
5V Detonation detected
E85 0-5V 0V 0%
2.5V 50%
5V [3] 100%
1) According to the configurations in CobraRTP Utility, see next.
2) If you have a knock detection indicator configured, this mode simply repeats it to the
analog output.
3) Value may be slightly lower than 5.00V due to imperfections in the output
characteristics and supply voltage.
Connection to ECU
To expand the capabilities of the ECU and enable additional functionality in
Honda Tuning Suite, this output must be connected to one of the analog inputs of
the OBD1 ECU:
D10 (ELD) (need to remove R136 and R138 on USDM)
D12 (EGR) (recommended)
B6 (need to remove R2 and R3 on USDM).
Notes
1. Be careful when connecting! An incorrect connection may damage the emulator's
analog output!
2. AUX Out work correctly only if there is power from the ECU.
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Flex Fuel – group of settings for the ethanol content sensor interface. Here
you can check the current ethanol content readings and configure the outputting
of the readings to the datalog channel data stream using the ISR protocol to
indicate the ethanol content in HTS , eCtune , etc.
Knock sensor interface – group of settings for the knock sensor interface.
Here you can configure the output of readings to the datalog channel data stream
using the ISR protocol to indicate the processed KS signal in HTS, eCtune , etc.
Indicator – select an indicator when the detonation detection threshold is
reached in the tuning software for the selected channel using the ISR protocol .
Calibration – calibration of the knock sensor (see details below).
AUX Out configuration – 0-5V output settings (E85 0-5V). Here you can set
the operating mode of this output.
Note
Always use the latest version of CobraRTP Utility, and also keep an eye out for device
firmware updates!
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The engine must be running before calibration can beginn. During the
calibration time (about 15 seconds), you must “work through” the entire engine
speed range to determine the calibration coefficients for all RPM ranges. Change
engine speed smoothly, avoiding sudden accelerations, to more accurately
determine the coefficients. After calibration, the calibration parameters are saved
in the device memory.
The coefficients in the normal case should be in the range of 10-120, and the
maximum value of all should be at high RPM and from about 50 to 120.
Detect - Indicates that a knock sensor signal (noise) has been detected.
Current val – current noise level around 0-255.
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0% - 0 V
50% - 12 V
100% - 24 V
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For ease of display, the knock sensor signal can be added to Graph to present
the signal as a live graph:
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On Graph you can also add a signal from this indicator and analyze both
signals on one chart:
Don't forget to turn on Live Graphing for real-time monitoring when datalog
is enabled :
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Also analog inputs (AUX) can be checked and configured in the CobraRTP utility
Service - Analog in :
The voltage will correspond to that specified for one or more channels (1-2-3)
between GND.
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To do this, you need any BT module with the ability to provide the following
settings:
- Baudrate must be set to 38400
-power supply voltage 5V
Note: the direction of the TX / RX lines is shown inverse, ie the way the pins of the
Bluetooth module should be located. For example, Chinese HC-05 is directly
compatible.
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DUAL-MAP FEATURE
CobraRTP Honda Edition starting with revision R7 allows the upload and use
of two different basemap's (Bin). For this, a “Dual- mod” jumper is provided on
the board, with the help of which the firmware is selected (memory block):
Using
For use, you can select the desired memory area, ie ROMx using the jumper state
(closed / open), in accordance with the order of the uploaded.
For the convenience of switching, you can use a toggle switch brought out at a
short distance (no more than 1m is recommended) using a cable.
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STATUS INDICATOR
On the CobraRTP board of all variants, LED indicators of the current state of the
device are provided:
1. Battery _ life :
At the first power supply, the indicator lights up and is constantly lit during
operation.
2. Tuning :
When the emulator is connected to the software, the indicator will off, and
it will only light up again during identification, read, write, and verification
operations.
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TROUBLESHOOTING
Decision:
- Check if the software ID is selected correctly in CobraRTP Utility
- Check if the COM port number is selected correctly
- Maybe the port is busy by another program process. For example, you
cannot connect in the CobraRTP utility and HTS at the same time.
2. Datalog issues
Decision:
- Check if the datalog wires are connected correctly
- Check if the COM port for the datalog is correctly selected ( differs from
the emulation COM port number )
-Check baud for datalog COM in software settings
-Check serial timeout
-If you have a version with bluetooth - make sure that the used datalog
channel is selected in the configurations ( CobraRTP Utility) ( see above )
If the issue with datalog persists, check the compatibility of your computer with
the datalog . Jumper j12 (j4 for JDM) is removed, J1 is installed, is the base ROM
loaded, etc.), and check CobraRTP hardware in the CobraRTP Utility in the
Service ->“ Test (hardware) ” option.
Also, one of the rare causes that have been discovered by our customers is a pin-
to-pin short:
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3. Car won't start and is in Limp mode (Check engine is constantly on)
Decision:
- Check if unused sensors are disabled in options (HTS, eCtune, BmTune)
- Check 28 pin socket contacts in ECU
- Make sure that if J1 is installed and have good contact in the ECU
- You can check hardware in CobraRTP Utility (Service - Test - ROM ):
If the test result is negative, then check the board, it may be a pin-to-pin
short circuit. In this case, you should check all the pins of:
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SPECIFICATIONS
1. Supply voltage ………………………………………… ……… ……….5 V (±10%)
2. Supply current (active) …………………………………… ……….. …. 50-70 mA
3. Memory access time …………………………………………………… ….60 ns
4. Memory access time when memory changes, no more … ….250 ns
5. Analog input 1 resistance………………………………………………..16 kOhm
6. Ambient temperature ………………………………………………… -20…50ᵒC
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