Manual v3 Honda Edition R10 (En)

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User manual Rev. 1.3

For Honda Edition R8-10

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BASIC CONNECTION AND INSTALLATION

First of all, your ECU must be prepared for Chip tuning, ie installed chipping
kit (socket for the chip (round or V-shaped), removed J12 (or J4 for JDM)
and more). Chipping kit is not included with CobraRTP!

Installation in the ECU is done using the pin contacts in the chip socket, as
shown below, using the example of USDM OBD1.

To ensure access to the CobraRTP USB port, it is necessary to make a cutout


in the ECU case.

Warning: It is worth paying special attention when installing (removing) the


board in ECU, as well as during storage, since the type of pin contacts (round)
shown in the photo above have low strength and can be prone to kinking under
light load or when the board falls without protection.

The Datalog is connected to the ECU (connector CN2 ) using a cable from the
kit, as shown above.
As you can see, two data lines are used for the connection - RX and TX ,
respectively 2 and 4 pin of connector CN2 in the ECU. This is true for both USDM,
EDM and the JDM type.

Warning: Do not touch the board when power is on! It can do damage under
static voltage!

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CONNECTION TO PC

Connect Honda Edition to a PC using a standard USB type-B cable.


CobraRTP can only connect to a PC, ie there is no need to install (connect) the
emulator to the ECU, or connect a separate power source.

Installing the USB driver


Driver installation is only required for Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, for Windows
10 and later the drivers are not required.
1. For installing, you need to download the driver from the site on the
"downloads" page: https://cobrartp.com/en/downloads .
2. Next, unpack the archive and install the driver using the installer (exe):

Check out the info in the Readme!

Successful driver installation

3. After installing the drivers, if there is a connected device, the device manager
will display the ports and their numbers:

In windows 7 example

As you can see, one of the ports is for Emulation (RTP), the second is for
Datalog .

Notes: The driver does not have a Microsoft digital signature, therefore, for
correct operation, "Verifying the digital signature of drivers" must be
disabled .

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Check connection
To test the CobraRTP device, you can use CobraRTP Utility .
You can download the latest version on our website in the " Downloads " section.
The number of the required COM-port for emulation (RTP) will be selected
automatically and displayed in the status-bar of the program:

1. – emulator software version .


2. – the number of the active (used) COM-port (for emulation).

Accordingly, the second added COM-port number when connecting the device
will be used for Datalog.

More info: https://cobrartp.com/en/cobrartp-utility/

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BASIC TUNING SOFTWARE CONFIGURATION

Before Running The Emulator In ECtune , HTS , Crome and etc., you Must
Make Sure That The Current Target Software Id Corresponds To The
Program You Intend To Use (See Cobrartp Utility) :

Service->Configurations

To change, you must select the appropriate software in the list and “ Apply” for
saving.

eCtune (OBD1):
You Need To Download The Prepared Version On Our Website on "Downloads"
page.

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Notes
* Port for emulation (same as in CobraRTP utility)
1) Port ( Datalog ) - for datalog , usually one more than the emulation port number (see Device
Manager (COM & LPT)).
3) Datalog speed rate for the datalog (do not neglect).

HTS(OBD0/OBD1):
https://hondatuningsuite.com/

Notes
- Port (Emulator) - for emulation (same as in CobraRTP utility)
- Port ( Datalog ) – for datalog , usually one more than emulation port number (check in Device
Manager (COM & LPT)).
- Baud - data speed, set as in the image.

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Crome (OBD1):
https://www.tunewithcrome.com/

Notes
1) Port for datalog , usually one more than the emulation port number (see Device Manager
(COM & LPT)).
2) The protocol should be selected QD2, or if you are using Crome Gold - QD3 respectively.

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BRE (OBD0) :
http://benogle.com/projects/bre.html

TurboEDIT (OBD0):
https://honda-perf.net/turboedit/TurboEDIT%203.2.2%20Full%20Install.exe

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SELECT DATALOG CHANNEL MODE (USB-BT)

This function is available for versions with bluetooth module.


To select the dataog mode (channel), use the Service-Configurations tab in Utility:

To switch the mode, you must select the appropriate item and save (the
selected mode is saved in permanent memory).

Pssword for BT mode: 1234

Tutorial : https :// youtu . be / y_6 EdtvHOGY _

Notes
1. Wireless way of working datalog (BT) is designed primarily to work with the mobile
application ( TunerView ), as well as with the Honda Tuning Suite. Performance with other
programs is not guaranteed, but possible!
2. To test the Datalog channel in the “Test” tab, use the USB mode.
3. Make sure that the correct COM port for BT datalog is selected, there may be several of them
and it does not correspond to the COM port for USB mode!

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CONNECTING DEVICES TO AUX IN/OUT INCLUDED IN


THE R10 VERSION AND THEIR SETTINGS

DESCRIPTION OF NEW FEATURES


New functions make it possible to use ethanol content sensors to implement
the FlexFuel system with an OBD1 ECU, as well as the ability to connect a knock
sensor (hereinafter referred to as KS) to monitor engine knock.
The FlexFuel interface on R10 board is a converter of a discrete signal from
an ethanol content sensor into an analog 0-5V signal that is “understandable” for
the ECU using an analog output as part of the AUX Out. There is also the ability to
display readings in tuning software.
The knock sensor interface allows you to connect broadband sensors to
monitor the knock sensor signal in tuning software, as well as output the signal to
external devices via AUX Out using 0-5V analog output.

AUX IN/OUT DESCRIPTION

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AUX in – intended for connecting sensors (signal input):


1. Knock Sensor In – knock sensor signal input.
2. Analog In 1 – general purpose analog input (0-5V), works the same as in
previous versions. Input resistance 16kOhm.
3. E 85 Sensor In – ethanol content sensor input (E85).
4. GND – common (ground) relative to all AUX In inputs.

AUX out – auxiliary outputs:


1. Knock AO (knock audio output) – audio output of the KS signal. Designed
for connecting headphones or for recording audio in devices with a
microphone input.
2. E85 0-5V – configurable analog output with a range of 0-5V. Can be
configured as an ethanol content output or as a knock signal level output.
Designed for connection to ECU inputs or other indicating devices with 0-
5V input.
3. GND – common (ground) relative to all AUX Out outputs.

SELECTION AND CONNECTION OF SENSORS


Knock sensor.
As a knock sensor, it is necessary to use a broadband piezoelectric sensor
with two or three contacts (the third is usually used for shielding), in most cases
it looks like this:

Connection
It is recommended to use a shielded cable for connection to reduce
electromagnetic interference:

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Installation
The knock sensor should be installed on the cylinder block, ideally in the
standard place of the factory KS sensor.

Ethanol content sensor.


Version R10 is designed to work with an ethanol content sensor with an
output signal of 50-150Hz. These include GM sensors: 13507128, 13577429,
13577394.

13577429

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Connection

CONNECTING DEVICES TO AUX OUT


Headphones.
Use any headphones with a speaker coil impedance of at least 35 ohms and
with volume control (optional, but recommended).

Connection

This output can also be connected to a recording device, such as a PC, to


record the sound of the knock sensor signal through the microphone input.

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0-5V Output.
Currently, this output is intended to output parameters such as the processed
knock sensor signal or the level of the ethanol content signal in the fuel.
Output mode [1] Output voltage level Expected parameter/value
KS linear 0-5V 0V Low level
2.5 V Mid-level
5 V [3] High level
Detonation (0V/5V) [2] 0V No detonation detected
5V Detonation detected
E85 0-5V 0V 0%
2.5V 50%
5V [3] 100%
1) According to the configurations in CobraRTP Utility, see next.
2) If you have a knock detection indicator configured, this mode simply repeats it to the
analog output.
3) Value may be slightly lower than 5.00V due to imperfections in the output
characteristics and supply voltage.

Connection to ECU
To expand the capabilities of the ECU and enable additional functionality in
Honda Tuning Suite, this output must be connected to one of the analog inputs of
the OBD1 ECU:
D10 (ELD) (need to remove R136 and R138 on USDM)
D12 (EGR) (recommended)
B6 (need to remove R2 and R3 on USDM).

Notes
1. Be careful when connecting! An incorrect connection may damage the emulator's
analog output!
2. AUX Out work correctly only if there is power from the ECU.

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AUX IN/OUT CONFIGURATIONS


Configuring AUX ports, as well as other options related to the KS and FlexFuel
interface, is done in CobraRTP Utility (Service -> Settings):

Flex Fuel – group of settings for the ethanol content sensor interface. Here
you can check the current ethanol content readings and configure the outputting
of the readings to the datalog channel data stream using the ISR protocol to
indicate the ethanol content in HTS , eCtune , etc.

Knock sensor interface – group of settings for the knock sensor interface.
Here you can configure the output of readings to the datalog channel data stream
using the ISR protocol to indicate the processed KS signal in HTS, eCtune , etc.
Indicator – select an indicator when the detonation detection threshold is
reached in the tuning software for the selected channel using the ISR protocol .
Calibration – calibration of the knock sensor (see details below).

AUX Out configuration – 0-5V output settings (E85 0-5V). Here you can set
the operating mode of this output.

Note
Always use the latest version of CobraRTP Utility, and also keep an eye out for device
firmware updates!

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KNOCK SENSOR CALIBRATION AND KNOCK DETECTION


RECOMMENDATIONS

Calibration is necessary to more accurately determine the knock detection


threshold in the processed KS signal, and is performed for a specific sensor,
engine and sensor installation location. It is also recommended to perform
calibration when changing the engine configuration, for example, even after
installing a different camshaft, because the overall engine noise may change.
However, the knock sensor interface included in the new version does not
provide a 100% guarantee of detonation detection, since this addition is not
professional equipment for these purposes, and is designed as an additional
feature of this class of device.
To perform calibration, the sensor must be installed and connected
according to the recommendations described above. The emulator must be
installed in the ECU and function correctly.
To be ready for calibration, you need to connect to the emulator in CobraRTP
Utility and go to Service -> Configurations -> Calibration:

The engine must be running before calibration can beginn. During the
calibration time (about 15 seconds), you must “work through” the entire engine
speed range to determine the calibration coefficients for all RPM ranges. Change
engine speed smoothly, avoiding sudden accelerations, to more accurately
determine the coefficients. After calibration, the calibration parameters are saved
in the device memory.
The coefficients in the normal case should be in the range of 10-120, and the
maximum value of all should be at high RPM and from about 50 to 120.
Detect - Indicates that a knock sensor signal (noise) has been detected.
Current val – current noise level around 0-255.

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To better understand detonation detection, we recommend using


headphones. In combination with indication in the software, this will allow you
to create an accurate picture of the presence of detonation in the KS signal.
The sound of detonation knocking is significantly different from other
“rustling” engine noise, which is monotonous and only changes depending on the
RPM. The detonation sound is similar to “clicking”, you can easy distinguish it
from the natural noise of the engine.

EXAMPLE OF SETTING UP MONITORING IN TUNING SOFTWARE


Let's look at setting up the display of the knock sensor signal in HTS . For
example, let's select signal output via the BAT Voltage (battery voltage) channel,
and select SCC (service check connector) as the detonation detection indicator:

Setting up virtual gauge in HTS:

Since this parameter is intended to display the voltage of the on-board


network, the ratios will be as follows:

0% - 0 V
50% - 12 V
100% - 24 V

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For ease of display, the knock sensor signal can be added to Graph to present
the signal as a live graph:

We will also configure the indication of the detonation detection signal:

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On Graph you can also add a signal from this indicator and analyze both
signals on one chart:

Don't forget to turn on Live Graphing for real-time monitoring when datalog
is enabled :

Similarly, you can customize the display for FlexFuel .

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CONFIGURING AUX INPUT IN VERSIONS R8-R9

The analog inputs in the versions up to R9 are used as an option (AUX) to


expand the capabilities of the limited analog inputs in the ECU.

Settings for HTS:

This function is included with datalog:

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Also analog inputs (AUX) can be checked and configured in the CobraRTP utility
Service - Analog in :

The voltage will correspond to that specified for one or more channels (1-2-3)
between GND.

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INSTALLING BLUETOOTH (BT) MODULE

To do this, you need any BT module with the ability to provide the following
settings:
- Baudrate must be set to 38400
-power supply voltage 5V

The connection diagram is shown below:

Note: the direction of the TX / RX lines is shown inverse, ie the way the pins of the
Bluetooth module should be located. For example, Chinese HC-05 is directly
compatible.

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DUAL-MAP FEATURE

CobraRTP Honda Edition starting with revision R7 allows the upload and use
of two different basemap's (Bin). For this, a “Dual- mod” jumper is provided on
the board, with the help of which the firmware is selected (memory block):

Upload two ROMs (basemap)


Firmware download is performed in the following order:
1. Upload ROM1 (jumper installed - contact closed)
2. Upload ROM2 (jumper removed - contact open)
Thus, by closing and opening the contact of the “Dual-Mod” jumper, we select a
memory block and upload different firmware into different areas of the
emulator's memory.

Using
For use, you can select the desired memory area, ie ROMx using the jumper state
(closed / open), in accordance with the order of the uploaded.
For the convenience of switching, you can use a toggle switch brought out at a
short distance (no more than 1m is recommended) using a cable.

It is allowed to switch firmwares with the engine running.

Also, you can see the video instruction: https://youtu.be/CiyAftnVTD0

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STATUS INDICATOR

On the CobraRTP board of all variants, LED indicators of the current state of the
device are provided:

Status – emulator status indicator has 2 modes:

1. Battery _ life :
At the first power supply, the indicator lights up and is constantly lit during
operation.

2. Tuning :
When the emulator is connected to the software, the indicator will off, and
it will only light up again during identification, read, write, and verification
operations.

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TROUBLESHOOTING

1. Connection issues in tuning software

Decision:
- Check if the software ID is selected correctly in CobraRTP Utility
- Check if the COM port number is selected correctly
- Maybe the port is busy by another program process. For example, you
cannot connect in the CobraRTP utility and HTS at the same time.

2. Datalog issues

Decision:
- Check if the datalog wires are connected correctly
- Check if the COM port for the datalog is correctly selected ( differs from
the emulation COM port number )
-Check baud for datalog COM in software settings
-Check serial timeout
-If you have a version with bluetooth - make sure that the used datalog
channel is selected in the configurations ( CobraRTP Utility) ( see above )

If the issue with datalog persists, check the compatibility of your computer with
the datalog . Jumper j12 (j4 for JDM) is removed, J1 is installed, is the base ROM
loaded, etc.), and check CobraRTP hardware in the CobraRTP Utility in the
Service ->“ Test (hardware) ” option.

Also, one of the rare causes that have been discovered by our customers is a pin-
to-pin short:

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3. Car won't start and is in Limp mode (Check engine is constantly on)

Decision:
- Check if unused sensors are disabled in options (HTS, eCtune, BmTune)
- Check 28 pin socket contacts in ECU
- Make sure that if J1 is installed and have good contact in the ECU
- You can check hardware in CobraRTP Utility (Service - Test - ROM ):

If the test result is negative, then check the board, it may be a pin-to-pin
short circuit. In this case, you should check all the pins of:

If result is positive (ROM test is passed) then check it’s:

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SPECIFICATIONS
1. Supply voltage ………………………………………… ……… ……….5 V (±10%)
2. Supply current (active) …………………………………… ……….. …. 50-70 mA
3. Memory access time …………………………………………………… ….60 ns
4. Memory access time when memory changes, no more … ….250 ns
5. Analog input 1 resistance………………………………………………..16 kOhm
6. Ambient temperature ………………………………………………… -20…50ᵒC

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