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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Katie O’Conor – Managing Director, Head of Investor Relations
Julie Sweet – Chair and Chief Executive Officer
KC McClure – Chief Financial Officer
Katie O’Conor
Thank you, operator, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today on our third
quarter fiscal 2024 earnings announcement. As the operator just mentioned, I’m
Katie O'Conor, Managing Director, Head of Investor Relations.
On today's call, you will hear from Julie Sweet, our Chair and Chief Executive
Officer and KC McClure, our Chief Financial Officer.
We hope you've had an opportunity to review the news release we issued a short-
time ago. Let me quickly outline the agenda for today's call. Julie will begin with an
overview of our results. KC will take you through the financial details, including the
income statement and balance sheet, along with some key operational metrics for
the third quarter. Julie will then provide a brief update on our market positioning
before KC provides our business outlook for the fourth quarter and full fiscal year
2024. We will then take your questions before Julie provides a wrap up-at the end
of the call.
Some of the matters we'll discuss on this call, including our business outlook are
forward-looking, and as such, are subject to known and unknown risks and
uncertainties, including but not limited to, those factors set forth in today's news
release and as discussed in our Annual Report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports
on Form 10-Q and other SEC filings. These risks and uncertainties could cause
actual results to differ materially from those expressed in this call.
During our call today, we will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures, which
we believe provide useful information for investors. We include reconciliations of
non-GAAP financial measures where appropriate to GAAP in our news release, or in
the Investor Relations section of our website at Accenture.com. As always,
Accenture assumes no obligation to update the information presented on this
conference call.
Julie Sweet
Thank you, Katie, and everyone joining. And thank you to our 750,000 people
around the world who work every day to deliver 360 degree value for all our
stakeholders.
Before we get into the quarter, I want to thank KC, who's been an excellent partner
for these last five years and our three other extraordinary leaders who are stepping
down in the next two quarters, which are Jean-Marc, Ellyn and Paul. Each have
given over 36 years of service and demonstrated strong stewardship in developing
outstanding successors, including Angie, who you all know from her former role as
Head of Investor Relations, who will succeed KC on December 1. As always, we are
executing a smooth leadership transition to the next generation with our strong
bench of great leaders.
Now on to the quarter.
I am pleased this quarter to bring to life yet again, the resilience and agility of our
business as our actions to remain laser-focused on our clients' needs and quickly
adapt to market conditions can be seen in our results, which are building a
foundation for stronger growth as we go into Q4 and next fiscal year.
As you know, this fiscal year, our clients' spending developed differently than we
expected at the beginning of the fiscal year. And these conditions continue with
clients prioritizing large-scale transformations, which convert to revenue more
slowly while limiting discretionary spending, particularly in smaller projects with
delays in decision making and a slower pace of spending as well.
Here's how these strengths and our strategy are demonstrating results three
quarters into the fiscal year.
This focus on being the reinvention partner is an important part of our strategy to
return to stronger growth. As we enter next year, as this work ramps, the revenue
from these large-scale bookings is expected to continue to layer in throughout the
year, and we are also well positioned to capture increases in discretionary spend
when it comes back because of the strategic positioning these deals bring at our
clients.
We also have leaned into the new area of growth, GenAI, which is comprised of
smaller projects as our clients primarily are in experimentation mode. In this
quarter, we hit two important milestones. With over $900 million in new GenAI
bookings this quarter, we now have $2 billion in GenAI sales year to date, and we
have also achieved $500 million in revenue year to date. This compares to
approximately $300 million in sales and roughly $100 million in revenue from
GenAI in FY23. Leading in GenAI positions us to help our clients take the actions
needed to reinvent and to benefit from GenAI, which frequently means large-scale
transformations. We're also taking an early lead with an eye toward long-term
leadership in this critical technology, which is still in the early stages of maturity
and adoption despite its rapid evolution.
We have built our expertise in making strategic acquisitions over the last decade,
leveraging a strong balance sheet, and we have used this expertise to expand into
new growth areas, scale in hot areas and geographies, and continue to build
strength in our industry and functional consulting. We deployed $2.3 billion of
capital across our geographic markets in Q3 across 12 acquisitions bringing the
total number of acquisitions to 35, with invested capital of $5.2 billion year to date
as compared to $2.5 billion for the entire FY23.
We continued to take market share on a rolling four quarter basis against our
basket of our closest global publicly-traded competitors, which is how we calculate
market share. With revenues of $16.5 billion for the quarter up 1.4% in local
currency and slightly above the midpoint of our FX adjusted range. We expanded
adjusted operating margin by 10 basis points and delivered free cash flow of $3
billion.
I want to congratulate our 97,000 people we have promoted around the world
through June 1, including 702 to Managing Director and 64 to Senior Managing
Director, reflecting our commitment to providing vibrant career paths.
Our scale across strategy, consulting, technology and operations, and our breadth
and depth across industries and functions make us uniquely capable of helping our
clients reinvent using technology and data, AI and new ways of working.
Before turning to KC, I want to give a little more color on our acquisitions this
quarter, which yet again demonstrate the strategic importance of both our ability to
invest and our expertise in identifying, attracting and integrating great companies
joining Accenture.
Let's start with new areas of growth. We completed our acquisition of Udacity to
scale our technology, learning and training services and to help our clients reskill
and upskill their people. Udacity is a critical part of our LearnVantage digital
learning platform, which we announced last quarter, as a new area of growth for
the future.
KC McClure
Thank you, Julie, and thanks to all of you for taking the time to join us on today's
call.
We are pleased with our Q3 results, which were in line with our expectations and
reflect continued investment at scale. We continue to serve as a trusted partner for
our clients while running our business with rigor and discipline.
Revenues grew 1.4% local currency with mid-single digit growth or higher in 7 of
our 13 industries, including public service, industrial, high-tech, life sciences,
energy, utilities and health. We also continue to see improvement in our CMT
industry group.
Adjusted Operating Margin was 16.4%, an increase of 10 basis points over Q3 last
year and includes continued significant investments in our people and our business.
And finally, we delivered Free Cash Flow of $3 billion and returned $2.2 billion to
shareholders through repurchases and dividends. Year to date, we've invested $5.2
billion across 35 acquisitions.
With those high-level comments, let me turn to some of the details starting with
new bookings. New bookings were $21.1 billion for the quarter, representing 22%
growth in US dollars and 26% growth in local currency with an overall book-to-bill
of 1.3. Consulting bookings were $9.3 billion with a book-to-bill of 1.1. Managed
Services bookings were $11.8 billion with a book-to-bill of 1.5.
Turning now to revenues. Revenues for the quarter were $16.5 billion, a 1% decline
in US Dollars and a 1.4% increase in local currency and slightly above the midpoint
of our FX adjusted guidance range. As the FX headwind was approximately 2%,
compared to the 1% headwind estimated at the beginning of the quarter.
Consulting revenues for the quarter were $8.5 billion, a decline of 3% in US Dollars,
and a decline of 1% in local currency. Managed Services revenues were $8 billion,
up 2% in US dollars and up 4% in local currency. Taking a closer look at our service
dimensions, Technology Services and Strategy & Consulting grew low-single digits
and Operations was flat.
Moving down the income statement. Gross margin for the quarter was 33.4%,
consistent with the same period last year. Sales and marketing expense for the
quarter with 10.6% compared to 10.5% for the third quarter last year. General and
administrative expense was 6.3% compared to 6.5% for the same quarter last
year.
Before I continue, I want to note that in Q3 of FY24 and FY23, we recorded $77
million and $347 million in costs associated with our business optimization actions,
respectively. These costs decreased operating margin by 40 basis points and EPS
by $0.08 this quarter and operating margin by 210 basis points and EPS by $0.42
in Q3 of last year. In Q3 of last year we also recognized a gain on our investment in
Duck Creek technologies, which impacted our tax rate and increased EPS by $0.38.
The following comparisons exclude these impacts and reflect adjusted results.
Adjusted operating income was $2.7 billion in the third quarter, reflecting an
adjusted operating margin of 16.4%, an increase of 10 basis points from adjusted
operating margin in the third quarter of last year. Our adjusted effective tax rate
for the quarter was 25.5% compared with an adjusted effective tax rate of 24% for
the third quarter last year.
Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $3.13 compared with adjusted diluted EPS
of $3.19 in the third quarter last year.
Days Services Outstanding were 43 days, compared to 43 days last quarter and 42
days in the third quarter of last year.
Free cash flow for the quarter was $3 billion, resulting from cash generated by
operating activities of $3.1 billion, net of property and equipment additions of $124
million. Our cash balance at May 31 was $5.5 billion compared with $9 billion at
August 31st.
With regards to our ongoing objective to return cash to shareholders, in the third
quarter, we repurchased or redeemed 4.3 million shares for $1.4 billion, an average
price of $320.41 per share. As of May 31, we had approximately $3.3 billion of
share repurchase authority remaining. Also in May, we paid a quarterly cash
dividend of $1.29 per share for a total of $811 million. This represents a 15%
increase over last year. And our Board of Directors declared a quarterly cash
dividend of $1.29 per share to be paid on August 15, a 15% increase over last
year.
In closing, we feel good about our results in Q3 and are now working hard to
deliver Q4. We remain focused on capturing growth opportunities while continuing
to invest in our business for long-term market leadership.
As I mentioned earlier, we're seeing more of the same in terms of the demand
environment. Now let me give a little context on how we're executing our strategy
to be the reinvention partner of choice and why we're uniquely positioned to be
helping our clients on AI.
To reinvent using technology, data and AI you must also change your processes
and ways of working, reskill and upskill your people and build new capabilities
around responsible AI. All with a deep understanding of industry, function, and
technology to unlock the value. And many clients need to first find more efficiencies
to enable scaled investment in their digital cores, in all these capabilities,
particularly in data foundations. In short, GenAI is acting as a catalyst for
companies to more aggressively go after cost, build digital core and truly change
the ways they work, which creates significant opportunity for us.
And this is why clients are coming to us. We are able to help our clients with this AI
rotation because of our broad services across strategy and consulting, technology
and operations, as well as everything customer, through Song and digital
manufacturing and engineering through Industry X, and our relevance across the
functions of the enterprises in 13 industries. Our privileged position in the
technology ecosystem has never been more important. We are working closely with
our ecosystem partners to help our clients understand the right data and AI
backbone that is needed and how to achieve tangible business value.
Now let me give you a few examples of the complex work of reinvention and
building a digital core.
Digital core work also requires deep industry expertise as we work with our clients
to design the right tech, data and AI to reinvent their enterprise and their industry.
We are helping the Central Bank of the United Arab Emirates, the regulatory body
responsible for the country's banking and insurance sector, with a digital
transformation to strengthen the financial system’s stability and contribute to
growth, innovation and diversification in the sector, in line with the UAE's national
vision. Our program will deliver advanced analytics along with AI driven automation
to improve supervisory capabilities and streamline activities for licensed financial
institutions by creating best-in-class processes to support regulatory compliance.
We will also modernize the bank's enterprise data management by implementing a
single unified portal to provide a holistic view of the financial services ecosystem,
all of which will enhance the UAE’s position as a global financial center.
We are partnering with Virgin Media O2, a leading carrier services provider in the
UK to support regional businesses to realize the promise of 5G, opening new
revenue streams and stimulating growth in the telco market. We will bring to
market solutions built on our Edge Orchestration platform, which combines edge
computing, data, AI, GenAI and embedded security. This will enable use cases such
as quality inspection, safe workplace management and behavior monitoring to
improve operations and customer experience, whether it's enabling safe,
communication on building sites, creating a fan experience while handling crowds
and busy venues, or supporting vital devices and clinician workflow in health care,
Virgin Media O2 can now offer businesses a range of flexible, secure and affordable
solutions, that boost efficiency, growth and performance. And with our managed
services in customer operations, we can work together with Virgin Media O2 to
scale this growth.
Security is a critical part of reinvention and the digital core. We saw continued very
strong double-digit growth in our security business this quarter.
We are partnering with the US Navy to enhance its cyber security operations with
cutting edge capabilities that will strengthen its data security posture and support
mission readiness. More than ever, data and information are critically important to
national security. Our solution sets are configured to provide defensive cyber
operations across Navy networks to help safeguard digital assets and mission
operations. Together, we will help ensure the US Navy can combat evolving cyber
threats, protect our sailors at sea and defend American interests around the world.
Once clients have a strong foundation, they can explore new opportunities to drive
growth and efficiencies with Gen AI.
We are helping a leading global food and beverage company who already built a
strong digital core as part of its reinvention journey to now leverage the power of
Generative AI to create new value. Together, we developed a digital shelf console
pilot, a GenAI engine that accelerates content creation for e-commerce and
optimizes it to drive sales. The engine empowers marketers to audit and customize
content at scale -- expected to reduce time to deliver one year's worth of content to
just eight working days and save costs of up to 80% -- quickly and effectively.
Once they scale, this enables the company to produce more targeted content with
significant time and cost efficiency, increase sales and transform customer
experiences.
We have partnered with National Australia Bank, one of the country's largest
financial institutions to strategically implement and scale Generative AI to create
material value at speed, enhance relationship driven customer service and drive
operational efficiencies. We worked on a methodical build of a secure and robust
GenAI platform -- built within the bank's existing strategic data platform -- with the
creation of 200 generative AI use cases in backlog. To date, over 20 use cases have
been tested across the bank, with eight of these enterprise-grade pilots underway
and a number of those scaling and already delivering value. We also co-created a
methodology for delivering GenAI projects from experiments to scalable
deployment, ensuring each stage delivers tangible business benefits. While doing
so, National Australia Bank and Accenture are putting safety at the core of the
approach to responsible AI and risk policies alongside developing in-house AI
expertise and literacy.
One of the areas of richest opportunities for our clients is customer experience
transformation, which uses the unique capabilities of Song across creative customer
insights and deep technology expertise. Song grew mid-single digits this quarter.
We are helping Saudia Airlines, the national flag carrier of Saudi Arabia, to launch
an innovative digital platform to transform the travelers’ experience. Powered by
GenAI, the platform will provide a one-stop solution, enabling customers to
seamlessly plan their journeys, book flights and modify their trips in just a few
words, all while providing a personalized and conversational experience. The
platform is continuously evolving and will integrate more services over time. This
modernization will support Saudia Airlines' vision of redefining the standards of
travel in a digital world.
And we will continue to leverage all of our strengths to manage the current macro
conditions and constrained spending while investing in leadership for the future.
KC McClure
Thanks, Julie.
For the fourth quarter of fiscal 24, we expect revenues to be in the range of $16.05
billion to $16.65 billion. This assumes the impact of FX will be about negative 2%
compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal 23 and reflects an estimated 2% to 6%
growth in local currency. For the full fiscal year 24, based upon how the rates have
been trending over the last few weeks, we now expect the impact of FX on our
results in US dollars will be negative 0.7% compared to fiscal 23.
For the full fiscal 24, we now expect our revenues to be in the range of 1.5% to
2.5% growth in local currency over fiscal 23, which assumes an inorganic
contribution approaching 3%.
We now expect our full year adjusted earnings per share for fiscal 24 to be in the
range of $11.85 to $12.00, or 2% to 3% growth over fiscal 23 results.
For the full fiscal 24, we continue to expect operating cash flow to be in a range of
$9.3 billion to $9.9 billion, property and equipment additions to be approximately
$600 million and free cash flow to be in the range of $8.7 billion to $9.3 billion. Our
free cash flow guidance continues to reflect a very strong free cash flow to net
income ratio of 1.2.
Finally, we continue to expect to return at least $7.7 billion through dividends and
share purchases as we remain committed to returning a substantial portion of our
cash to our shareholders.
Katie O’Conor
Thanks, KC. I would ask that you each keep to one question and a follow-up to
allow as many participants as possible to ask a question. Operator, would you
provide instructions for those on the call?
Operator
Your first question comes from the line of Tien-Tsin Huang from JPMorgan. Please
go ahead.
Thank you so much, and congrats to KC and Angie. I'm excited for both of you
guys. I just wanted to ask upfront, just for Julie, maybe you mentioned stronger
growth next year. Hoping you can just elaborate on that at a high level. I know
there's a lot of moving pieces. On one hand, you have a big backlog, a lot of large
deals. You have strong inorganic growth, but on the other hand, the sector is
struggling with this weak discretionary spend, and there's uncertainty with global
elections in the second half of the year. So just -- I know you can't give formal
guidance until next year. I know consensus is at, what, 6%? Can you just give us
maybe just some high-level considerations that are worth underlining as we're
recasting our outlook for next year? Thank you.
Julie Sweet
Sure. And thanks for the question, Tien-Tsin. So, let's just anchor on our strategy
for growth and what you're seeing in three quarters into the year, because
obviously, expectations at the beginning of this year were different in terms of how
things developed with spending. So, what did we do? We leaned into what do
clients need, and they need these reinventions, they need these big, large-scale
transformations. And so, what you've seen us to do is, like, you've got to go with
what the clients need, and that's what they're buying. And so, we have accelerated
our leaning into these large transformation deals, which is why you see that we
have seven more than last year at this time of clients with bookings of over $100
million.
Now, these convert to revenue more slowly, but as we're accelerating, you'll know
that they ramp up and they will start to layer in. And we are very uniquely
positioned in this market to be able to do these large-scale transformations because
they require the combination of services, everything from the ability to help them
move faster through our managed services, our industry expertise. Everyone wants
to do that with the eye towards GenAI, so even though the transformations are
often in preparation for GenAI, they want to work with the partner who really
understands GenAI, and so how do we get there faster. And so, as you think about
the reinvention strategy, that's a strategy we've been executing for a couple of
years, and we uniquely can lean in, and you're seeing the results of that this
quarter with the acceleration of -- compared to last year, of clients with that level of
bookings and those, of course, then ramp next year.
The second is, our leaning into where we are seeing growth in smaller deals
because remember that discretionary spending is constrained, overall spending
constrained, and particularly in smaller projects. But what did we do, right? We see
GenAI as the new growth. We have an incredible ability to pivot our people. You can
see the specialists in Data & AI growing. We started at 40,000, we're at 55,000 now
against our goal of 80,000 by the end of 2026. We're also training our people. You
saw that big increase, because we're preparing our people. You're now doing a
transformation. It may not be GenAI, but you have to understand GenAI. And so,
we're uniquely able to train our people at scale to understand GenAI.
And how is that translating? Well look at our bookings this quarter now getting to
$2 billion, three quarters into the year, as compared to $300 million last year and
$500 million in revenue. So starting to be meaningful, right? In terms of the
numbers, we were at $100 million for all of last year. So we expect to continue to
lean into GenAI. And what it's doing is very interesting from where we were, say,
three quarters ago. It's acting as the catalyst to understand what you have to do.
So I'll finish here and then I'll just, of course, mention our ability to invest in
inorganic. But right now from a perspective of like the pull through, we're still
reprioritizing. But every other GenAI project now is leading to some data project,
because people are understanding, hey, this is a great technology and I'm not
ready. So we feel really good about being very well positioned as spending
increases, when it does increase, because of what we're doing.
And then finally, remember we invest in acquisitions to drive organic growth. So it's
all about future growth. And I gave a lot in the script today to just help bring to life
just how strategic our ability to invest is as we think about future growth. So not
trying to comment at all on FY 2025. We'll call it like we see it. But we also want to
be clear that our strategy is working and these deals will ramp up.
KC McClure
Yes, maybe I'll just add, Tien-Tsin, just how we feel just within this fiscal year. So,
we're very pleased with where we landed in Q3. When you look to Q4, we do have,
and you see that in our growth rate, a clear uptick in our growth rate for the fourth
quarter. And I think importantly included in that is the expectation that our
consulting type of work in Q4, Tien-Tsin, will return to growth and that we haven't
had growth in consulting type of work since Q2 of last year.
Good. No, thank you both for that. I'll be less wordy with my follow-up. Just on the
inorganic piece, can this pace continue?
KC McClure
I'll let Julie talk about -- add on here. But in terms of our -- let's talk about capital
allocation. And we've always said this, we have the ability, and I think it's a
differentiator of ours, to be able to invest and approach the market as whenever we
see something that we want to execute. And that remains unchanged. And we've
been able -- and you've seen us do that over all the different business cycles. And
importantly, when we do that, we're able to continue all parts of our capital
allocation in terms of share buybacks and dividends as well. So, from a financial
standpoint, we have a very strong balance sheet. We have the ability to continue to
flex up and down as we see fit from a capital allocation standpoint, Tien-Tsin.
Julie Sweet
Yes, Tien-Tsin, and I think we'll make the decision as we go into next year as to
what level we want to drive for next year. So, I think we'll comment next quarter.
Tien-Tsin Huang, JPMorgan
That's perfect. I know you've been able to amplify the growth of what you bought.
So, that's why I asked. Thank you.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Dave Koning from Baird. Please go
ahead.
Yes. Hey, guys. Thanks so much. One thing I noticed, debt was up to $1.6 billion or
so. Sequentially, it was the highest, really, in 20 years, you've almost had no debt,
and you have a lot of cash. So, I guess, what's the strategy around borrowing
money now? And maybe it's just geographic cash positions, too.
KC McClure
Yes. No, that's a great question. So, in terms of our cash, you said that we started
the year at $9 billion, and now we're little bit -- we are about $5.5 billion. And we
do have some debt. It's very small, as you mentioned, for a company of our size.
We do have a -- we had a credit facility that we put in right during the pandemic,
and we continue to have a credit facility. It's about $5.5 billion. It's a five-year
credit facility and what you just see, Dave, is that we're just exercising some of that
credit facility, kind of normal treasury operation.
Okay. And maybe just as a follow-up, margins this year up at the lower end of kind
of normal and certainly scale, just the growth this year being a little slower, maybe
the acquisitions. And just as we kind of look forward, the margin puts and takes,
how should we think that with acquisition spending maybe a little higher, does the
next few quarters remain kind of putting a little pressure on margins or how should
we think of just the moving parts of margins going forward?
KC McClure
Yes, sure. So I'll just obviously keep my comments to this year, to 2024, but -- and
maybe I'll just point out where we are and what we are continuing to assume. So
we stated last quarter that we'd be at 10 basis points of operating margin
expansion and we reconfirmed that, Dave, for the full year, again this quarter, and
we feel confident in our ability to do that. So if you look at -- we run our business
to operating margin. If you look at gross margin and overall what we've been
saying on pricing and just importantly, when we talk about pricing, we mean the
margin on the work that we sell.
What I think is really important for us is that, we've been able to operate our
business with rigor and discipline in how we run ourselves in efficient operations of
Accenture and be our own best credential, as we absorb higher selling costs, which
you would expect. We're looking at our record $60 billion of bookings and also the
continued pressure in pricing that we've had across the business. So with that, we
feel really good. And if you look at it, we grew 1% in quarter one. As an example,
we were able to do 20 basis points of margin expansion. We grew 1% this quarter,
and we were able to do 10 basis points of margin expansion. So we feel good about
the way we run our business with rigor and discipline.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Bryan Keane from Deutsche Bank. Please
go ahead.
Hi, guys. Good morning and congrats, KC. A great run at Accenture. You were
awesome. So, I want to ask on managed services on the bookings, the $11.8
billion, that was an outsized number. How much of that is new bookings versus
renewals? And maybe give us some flavor on what caused that spike in growth.
KC McClure
Yes. Maybe I will give you the -- I'll talk a little bit about the numbers, in terms of,
it is a record [for] bookings for managed services. As Julie's -- and as we've been
talking, it is obviously based on the larger transformational deals that we're doing.
Well, those larger transformational deals, just to be clear, Bryan, they do have both
consulting and outsourcing -- excuse me, managed services type of work with
them. They do have, as you would expect, a larger portion of managed services
type of work. So when you see what we were able to do this year, we're already at
92, seven more than last year. And we did have a very strong managed services
bookings, as you noted, in Q3. We don't really do a breakout in terms of extensions
or new, but there's always -- we always have a healthy mix, I would say, of both.
That's what we strive to over rolling four quarters in our business always and no
difference there.
Julie Sweet
Yeah. And just maybe a little color, Bryan. As you think about this idea of
reinvention, Virgin Media O2 was a great example, because there, right, we have a
combination using our Edge platform to provide -- help O2 provide -- Virgin Media
O2 to provide these new services. And at the same time, we're supporting it with
our customer operations, supporting their growth so that they can scale. And right
now, clients, of course, they're looking for growth, they're also looking for
transformation and efficiency.
The other thing I'd say is, this is a great example of how we're embracing GenAI.
You've heard us talk in the past about our myWizard platform, which helps in our
managed services. We now -- that's become Gen Wizard and we're seeing that our
embracing -- early embracing of using GenAI where it's ready to be used has been
a real differentiator in our technology managed services. So, we're very focused on
helping our clients, move faster using our expertise and leverage our digital
investments in order for them to transform and reinvent faster and you're seeing
that focus.
Got it. And just a follow-up, just looking at some of the dimensions breakout, when
I look at operations being flat, just any call-outs for that. I know it was negative
last quarter, so it's turned a little bit here, but just trying to understand the growth
there and the prospects. Thanks.
Julie Sweet
Yeah, no, it's -- we're really pleased that ticked up this quarter and it's a very
strategic part of our business. Think about it really as sort of two-ways, right? So
we remain number-one in our industry in finance and accounting and we're
embracing again GenAI there to help differentiate our platform. And so, there's a
focus that we're seeing in our clients as they're saying, okay, we need to -- we
really understand how much more we need to digitize and we need to do that in the
enterprise, they're excited about our ability over-time. Again, it's very early days
still in GenAI over-time to help build our -- we're building our SynOps platform,
we're building in GenAI and that helps them have less to build-in in their enterprise
side by partnering with us. And so that's -- we think a really great differentiator.
And then we continue to diversify into areas that are in the core of our business,
whether -- core of our industries for our clients, whether it's claims and
underwriting in insurance, or supply-chain for consumer goods and industrial or
core banking in the financial services. So, we feel really good about the business
and its continued prospects.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Rod Bourgeois from DeepDive Equity
Research. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, and very best wishes to KC as well. Julie, you mentioned that the
demand environment is sort of more of the same. At the same time, it appears
you've seen some growth mending in certain key areas. I'm particularly interested
in the growth improvement in the CMT vertical and in Strategy and Consulting. Can
you talk about what's enabling those growth improvements and a sense of the
outlooks for CMT and S&C? Thanks.
Julie Sweet
So, really want to compliment our entire team on the work that they're doing with
our clients in CMT. So, as we've been talking about that for now for a little while
and we start to see things like the Virgin Media O2 deal. So our teams are working
with our clients on what do they need. And they're focused on getting rid of
technology debt, because that's critical in order to use some of these new
technologies. They're focused on using the new technologies. So we have a number
of clients that -- while it's still small, are working on GenAI. And then being very
focused on efficiencies. And then finally network.
So, really across the board what I would say is the industry was challenged. We
have been just focused on going to where they need help and you're seeing that
result in our results. And then on Strategy and Consulting, again, it's all about
being focused on what do our clients need. And so, we've pivoted many more
people, for example, toward cost and strategy. So cost takeout is a big theme, and
particularly for our strategy. We are seeing a lot of growth still in things like
implementing modern ERP platforms with the focus on the digital core.
And again, at Accenture, it's not just technology, right? It's about we're the number
one player with all of these technology ecosystem players, but our clients want to
do it faster. They need the industry expertise. And so, you saw a number of
examples in the script about how we're putting in these platforms and we're doing
so within an industry context. And so, I'd say cost takeout and move the cloud data
platforms wrapped around with industry and functional expertise, that's where
we're seeing the growth. And we just continue to remain laser focused on more
people, more focus, working with the clients on what they need to buy.
Rod Bourgeois, DeepDive
Great. Thanks for that. And you're seeing revenue mix incrementally shift into
managed services, and I'm curious if you think some of that mix shift towards
managed services is due to secular forces, or are you purely seeing that mix shift
as just a cyclical phenomenon?
KC McClure
Yes, I think, it's -- in terms of what the real driver is, it's the larger deals that have
a little bit of both in those -- both components of a sector and cyclical and what
you're talking about. So it really is just based on the larger deals.
Julie Sweet
So just think about Accenture as very uniquely positioned in this market. Clients
are prioritizing large scale transformations. And doing those and getting the
efficiencies and moving faster, managed services is a highly strategic component of
being able to do that. And this is where Accenture, with such scale in both strategy,
in both consulting type of work with managed services, is really able to lean into
what are clients buying now.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Bryan Bergin from TD Cowen. Please go
ahead.
Hi. Good morning and congrats KC and the other leaders on the retirements and
appointments. First question I wanted to ask on the consulting existing revenue-
base performance, can you just talk about how base business runoff kind of
progressed within the minus 1% local currency performance? I heard your
comment on the 4Q consulting returning to growth. I'm trying to understand if
that's a reflection of sustainable stabilization potentially and really gauge whether
you're reaching a point where the new consulting bookings conversion should more
than offset the existing base runoff moving ahead.
KC McClure
Yes. So, Bryan, in terms of what we'll give -- what we'll talk about is really what I
just mentioned on Q4. I guess -- and I understand what you mean by a base
runoff. We don't really think of it that way. We kind of look at it as maybe our terms
will be what do we have booked in backlog -- and what's new coming in from these
sales. And so, just kind of going with those two points, the way we evaluate and we
talk about it, Bryan, is from a year-over-year basis, looking at both the components
of what we've already sold for the next quarter and then what we see in our
pipeline and how we see those sales will convert to revenue, that's how we kind of
assess what we think that we will be overall. And again, very pleased that
consulting -- we do feel that and see that it will return to growth. And I think it's a
milestone that we haven't had in a number of quarters, so we're pleased with that.
And we'll comment on anything else for next year, I mean in September.
Okay. And then bookings, obviously, very solid here. Can you just comment on
pipeline and any bookings expectations worth calling out for 4Q?
KC McClure
Yes. Overall, we feel good about our pipeline. And we don't give guidance to next
quarter bookings. But we feel good.
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of James Faucette from Morgan Stanley.
Please go ahead.
Great. Thank you very much. I wanted to follow up on the acquisition activity. It's
obviously been really robust, providing a lot of good opportunities. Can you give us
any sense collectively across the acquisitions you've been doing and maybe what
you are looking at in terms of what the growth rates of those businesses are
generally or collectively when you do the acquisitions? And I know there's a target
to accelerate those, how the growth rates tend to change as those companies are
absorbed into Accenture, even if directionally.
KC McClure
Yes, I mean, I think in terms of -- make sure I'm answering your question is, when
we look at overall at our acquisitions, they all come with -- they're typically higher
growth business cases that we have from the companies that we buy and we have
a base case that comes with the organization and we assess that growth rate. And
then we obviously put in pretty significant synergy cases that are -- without going
through kind of metrics that are a pretty high bar for those acquisitions to deliver
to, along with broader Accenture. And that's why integration is so important in what
we do, because we're not just having a great business case, that is maybe half of
what you need to do, but the key really is in how you integrate to deliver to that,
and we have a very strong track record.
And so, what you'll see is, you could just maybe get the sense to your question, is
look at how many we've done over the last five years and you can see how we've
been able to continue to grow our business throughout that time. And it is really
continuing to fuel our organic growth.
Got it. And then quickly, one of the areas where you've leaned in on and was
mentioned in the prepared remarks is the government and healthcare sector, really
strong growth there obviously. How should we be thinking about that as a long-
term or medium-term potential grower in that segment and any -- and how are you
thinking about the investment needed to continue to drive that? Thanks.
Julie Sweet
Thanks. We feel really good about that vertical. Obviously, there's a lot of
transformation that's going on in public service. You see health is a big driver,
defense is a big driver. There's a lot of infrastructure support, whether it's IRA in
the U.S. or what the EU has been doing as well. And of course, a lot of the digital
transformation hasn't happened in the public service and health. And so, we see
that now being the time and you're seeing that in the results. So we feel very
confident and we think about the investment like we do all our industries. I mean,
remember, we have 13 industry groups. The diversification is a key part of both our
resilience and our growth strategy. And so, at any given time, we're investing
differently depending on the growth trajectory. And as we called out this quarter,
we've been investing significantly in public service, because we see the next several
years, this being a big growth area and we're making those investments now.
Katie O'Conor
Operator, we have time for one more question, and then Julie will wrap up the call.
Operator
Okay. That question comes from the line of Keith Bachman from BMO. Please go
ahead.
Keith Bachman, BMO
Hi. Many thanks. And first, KC and Paul, special congratulations as you make the
transition. I wanted to ask a question, and I'll just make it concurrently in the
interest of time. And Julie, I think I'll direct this to you. Number one, on BPO, one
of your competitors just talked pretty openly about pricing's been under pretty
material duress as of late, and I wondered if you would echo that? And I'm really
curious as to why. Why do you think pricing has been under duress? And how do
you think about impacting future growth?
And then the second area that I wanted to ask about is, Song. Thank you for the
comment on mid-single digit growth. And I'm really interested how you think GenAI
will impact your digital agency over the next 12 to 24 months. And the reason I ask
the question is, we also spend a lot of time with companies like Adobe that have
significant -- Generative AI is going to have a significant impact on digital agencies.
And some of the agencies are talking about seat reductions because of the value
associated with Generative AI. And I'm just wondering if you could comment on
how you think Generative AI will impact the growth potential of Song. And that's it
for me. Many thanks.
Julie Sweet
Great. KC, why don't you quickly touch on pricing, and then I'll do Song.
KC McClure
Keith, I would say just in terms of pricing, and we've been commenting on this for
quite some time. You are correct in that, we've had overall in our entire business
continued pricing pressure. So, I mean, that's the way I would reflect on that
statement -- on your question.
Julie Sweet
Yes, it's overall it’s a tight market, So that's what you normally see. On Song,
here's where we are so unique, because our business is not an agency business,
right? The agencies are part of an incredibly differentiated value proposition where
you have creative and technology and digital and by the way managed services.
And so, we see this as a huge opportunity because we are embracing it as fast as
possible to help our clients get value, but we put it together with all of these other
services. So we were happy to see the uptick in growth this quarter with Song, and
long term, where we really think it's great. And remember, this is our playbook,
right? We embrace technology. We've done it in every wave. We've done it when we
did managed services. Remember in 2015, we had SynOps and myWizard. Our
business is to help our clients be more efficient and grow. That is what we do. And
we use technology in how we deliver it. And we help them use technology in how
they operate.
And so, we see GenAI as yet another way that we're going to embrace it. We're
going to be fast. And we're going to do what we do for clients. And that is a very
exciting opportunity, so we feel really good about our Song business.
CONCLUSION
Julie Sweet
Great. So, thanks everyone for the questions and the time today. In closing, I want
to again, as always, thank all of our shareholders for your continued trust and
support, and all of our people for what you're doing for our clients and for each
other every day. Thanks so much for joining.
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