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Moderator: Welcome to today's panel discussion on the topic of abortion.

Abortion is when a pregnancy is ended so that it doesn't result in the birth


of a child. Sometimes it is called 'termination of pregnancy' and It can be
done in two different ways.
Medication abortion, which requires a pregnant person to take some specific
pills at separate times to end the pregnancy. It is sometimes called a
"medical abortion" or "abortion with pills."
And Procedural abortion, a procedure to remove the pregnancy from the
uterus. It is sometimes called a "surgical abortion."
We have two experts here today representing different viewpoints on the
issue. On my left is Faezeh, who is pro-choice and argues that women
should have the right to choose whether or not to have an abortion. On my
right is Danial, who is pro-life and believes that abortion should be illegal as
it is the taking of a human life. Let's begin with opening statements from
both sides.

F: Thank you. As a pro-choice advocate, I believe that it is a fundamental


human right for women to have control over their own bodies. Women
should have the ability to make their own decisions about their health and
lives, including whether or not to have a child. Banning abortion would be a
violation of women's rights and would lead to unsafe and illegal abortions,
putting women's lives at risk.

D: Well, as a pro-life advocate, I believe that life begins at conception and


every human being has the right to life. Abortion is a violation of the most
basic human right, the right to life, and should not be allowed under any
circumstances. It is not a matter of women's rights, but rather a matter of
protecting human life.

Moderator: Thank you both for your opening statements. Faezeh, how do
you respond to Danial's argument that life begins at conception?

F: While I respect Danial's beliefs, I do not believe that a fetus has the
same rights as a fully formed human being. A fetus is not capable of
surviving outside of the womb and is dependent on the mother's body for
survival. Women should have the right to make decisions about their own
bodies and lives, including whether or not to continue a pregnancy.

D: I understand that women should have autonomy over their bodies, but
the issue of abortion goes beyond just the woman's body. It involves the life
of another human being. As a society, we should value and protect all
human life, including that of the unborn.

F: OK let me ask you something. What about cases of rape or when the
mother's life is at risk? Please just don’t tell me you “understand” but blah
blah blah. In cases of rape, it is especially important that women have
access to safe and legal abortion services. No woman should be forced to
carry a child that is the result of rape. In cases where the mother's life is at
risk, it is important to prioritize the health and safety of the mother.

Moderator: Danial, how do you respond to the argument that women


should have access to safe and legal abortion services in cases of rape or
when the mother's life is at risk?

D: While these situations are certainly difficult, it does not change the fact
that abortion is still the taking of a human life. We should explore
alternative options, such as adoption or parenting support, to ensure that
the life of the unborn is protected.

F: Can you imagine how hard it is to carry a creature inside you which is
the result of such a traumatic case? Do yOu have aNy idea???

D: Don’t know about THAT but don’t you think It’s kind of selfish to call a
little innocent baby “a creature”?

F: *rolls eyes* omg!


Moderator: Thank you both for sharing your views. What about economic
stability? Do you think it plays any role in the decision of abortion?
F: Economic stability can be a significant factor in a woman's decision to
have an abortion. Bringing a child into the world can be an expensive and
challenging undertaking, and it may be difficult for a woman to provide for a
child if she does not have the financial resources to do so. If a woman
cannot afford to provide for a child, it may be better for her and even the
baby itself to have an abortion rather than bringing a child into the world
and not being able to provide for them.

D: While economic stability can be a significant factor in a woman's


decision to have an abortion, it should not be the sole reason for ending a
pregnancy. There are many resources available to women who may be
struggling financially, such as government assistance programs, non-profit
organizations, and community support. Additionally, choosing to have an
abortion solely based on economic circumstances sends the message that
some lives are worth less than others.

F: Research has shown that children who grow up in poverty are more
likely to experience negative outcomes such as poor health, lower
educational attainment, and higher rates of crime. By allowing women to
make the decision to have an abortion based on their economic
circumstances, we may be preventing children from being born into
situations of poverty.

D: Economic stability can change over time, and a woman who may not be
financially stable at the time of conception may be able to provide for a
child in the future. By choosing to have an abortion solely based on
economic circumstances, a woman may be missing out on the opportunity
to experience the joy and fulfillment that comes with parenthood.

F: yes “maybe”. What if such a thing doesn’t happen? These days it’s so
hard to move from a social class to another. You can’t make decisions for
one’s future based on possibilities that may or may not happen.
And even if in the future you come to realize that you have a better
economic situation, you can try to have a baby again or easily adopt one.
D: listen. No matter what the circumstance is, I won’t step back from my
belief. If you are I don’t know, Cristian, catholic or Muslim, you should be
pro-life. Whatever to try to do, legalization or illegalization won’t be the
solution. We ought to figure out another way to stop this debate for
goodness of bot of us.

Moderator: that is absolutely right. We are not enemies though.


If there is any problem to be solved it’s the underrated and forgotten fact
that why do we get to the point where abortion is a choice.

F: I know that we are not enemies. But you can’t step out and tell
everybody not to have sexual intercourse or whatever just to prevent
abortion whatsoever. It is the time and day that many people affected by
the pressure of economic factors or by religion or hormones or else, doing
what they must not do …

D: wait. What does it all have to do with economic factors and hormones
and stuff?

Moderator: Danial, please wait till she is done.

D: apologizes.

F: yes. Abortion has a lot to do with these factors and more. as I said
before, you can’ help it just now. In the cases of rape, under these factors
such as the financial problems, that won’t allow young generation to get
marry and have their free will to have intercourse and have baby when they
can is the reason that rape or unwanted pregnancy happens, when two
people are in a relationship and the accident happens, or religiously
speaking, in Holy Quran it is said that you should not take the life of the
unborn is the reason for all the pressure on women who have been raped
and now are under the condition of unwanted pregnancy.

D: what are you even talking about? As I said, it is all about ethical and
cultural problems that such situations occur. It doesn’t have anything to do
with financial or religious problems. If only you listened to what I said and
had more information and knowledge about what has been said in the Holy
Quran, you wouldn’t just mumble all these stuff as a reason for abortion’s
illegalization.

Moderator: maybe you are right. But there would be clarification needed in
order to get what you are exactly trying to say.

D: abortion is absolutely unnecessary. Who says that in Holy Quran it is


only said that abortion should be banned because of just pro-life beliefs? It
is said that abortion is not allowed unless the health of the mother is in
danger or unless the baby has some special conditions that will not allow
him/her to live a normal or heathy and meaningful life and it is also not
mentioned directly. And also, how does financial problems has anything to
do with abortion and unwanted child?

F: well, as I mentioned before, some cases are relationships, those are


some things to be concerned about. And also, like I said, you CAN NOT
step outside and tell everybody not to have sexual intercourse. But you can
make the situation ready for those circumstances.

D: again, I will not be satisfied with your statement. Imagine there were
medically or religiously, more laws about abortion, then what would happen
to our mothers and sisters? On top of that, the fact that a woman should
have the right to deal with her own body and have the power to decide
whether she wants to abort the child or not, is absolutely wrong.

F: How exactly it is wrong for a woman to have one of the most basic
human right of hers. how is it wrong for a woman to decide to abort a child
or a fetus that she doesn’t want to have and believe me that if the mother’s
mental or physical health is in the list of conditions where the mother can
decide, then if only I’m not mentally ready to have a child whether it is mine
or someone else’s, then it will seriously damage my health, SPECIALLY my
mental health. It could literally drag me down.

Moderator: As it is mentioned many times before, if it is up to mother’s


health then abortion should be allowed. What do you have to add on about
this, Danial?

D: Well, it is of course the mother’s health that could be a concern, but it is


mostly about the spiritual aspect of the act. It is murder, what you call
abortion.

F: So, let me myself deal with my god if that is the case. If I don’t want to
bring an unwanted child to life and that has something to do with religion
and me and my god, I would gladly still choose me and will be dealing with
my god about it.

D: That is impossible. If such a thing would be enough reasonable for


abortion. Then everybody would be walking around, killing people.

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