BigBoiPinoys Relic Substat Upgrade Theory Ver. 1.0

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BigBoiPinoys Relic/Artifact Substat Upgrade The

This is a Theorycraft(so being tested constantly but not gurrenteed) way of upgrading certain substats you want on

Last Update : July 27th 2023

This theory is not forcing a substat to be upgraded but instead knowing which substat line will be upgraded
Through tons of test upgrading patterns can be seen(formations) in which the player can tell which substat
crit dmg, crit rate, spd, etc. As long as you see the pattern you can predict which substat line will be upgrad
As long as you stay in the upgrade/equip relic/artifact menu, the last substat line you upgraded will effect w
E.G. If you can predict the next upgrade will be the 2nd substat line of a 4 line(the stat doesnt matter) and y
you can simply switch to another relic(4 line) with a desired substat on the predicted 2nd substat line to be
Should be noted that this is not considered cheating/hacking the game. This is just Data constantly being recorded

Created by : BigBoiPinoy
https://www.twitch.tv/bigboipinoy
Major Contributors : imxypher
https://www.youtube.com/@imxypher

Base Theory For 4 Line Substat, This Is a basic theory where the next substat l

Blue = Current Substat Line You are On The next substat line should be somewhat predictabl

Relic/Artifact xxx
New Relic/Artifact Start Substat 1
Substat 2
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Substat 3
Substat 1 25% Substat 4
Substat 2 25% >>>>>
Substat 3 25% Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 4 25% Substat 1
Substat 2
Substat 3
Substat 4
If the current relic has a crappy substat on the second line, simply switch to another relic(don’t leave the relic upgra
-This is why people that level relics +0 to +9 see they either get the same substat multiple times(hitting same substa
Possible Formations on substat upgrades theory
All examples will be using the top line as the start, but the start point can be from any line.
Depending on which line you are on the %s LvL Chance A >>> >>>
More different examples will be shown ON the 3Line page
Don't be afraid to refer to the back to the base theory if you can't predict where a line goes.
Doubling up has a chance of happening on step formations
Make sure you are keeping count of each upgrade cause every 4-5 substat upgrade the formation resets to a new f
The substat upgrade number(the 4-5) resets when you switch characters/leave then menu where you select what re
If you add a substat to a 3 line relic you go through a different series of formations before going through 4 line forma

Upgrade 1 Upgrade 2

Normal Step Formation(down)


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% >>> Substat 2
Substat 3 5% Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

Normal Step Formation(down double)


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% >>> Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

The "Jump" Skip formation (this one is hard to predict where it goes, highly suggested to force res
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% >>> Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

The Hitting Same Substat Formation


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% >>> Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

Reverse Step Formation


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% Substat 3
Substat 4 20% >>> Substat 4

Bouncing Between 2 Lines Formation (Can happen In reverse as well)


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% >>> Substat 2
Substat 3 5% Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

The Dumb God Roll( hope you get the right line you want)
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% >>> Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4

Mihoyo's Dumb formation (Usually happens when you add a substat to a 3 line) also this can be a
Special Formatio Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
will use bottom Substat 1 40% Substat 1
line start for Substat 2 5% Substat 2
this one ExampleSubstat 3 20% Substat 3
Substat 4 35% >>> Substat 4

The "Jump" Skip formation VER2 (this one is hard to predict where it goes, highly suggested to fo
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 35% Substat 1
Substat 2 40% Substat 2
Substat 3 5% >>> Substat 3
Substat 4 20% Substat 4
pgrade Theory For HSR and Genshin Impact
tain substats you want on any relic/artifact. Current Case Study 00+ players and counting

stat line will be upgraded next, this theory breaks "25% each substat rule",
er can tell which substat will be upgraded next. It can be any substat on the 4 lines,
ubstat line will be upgraded next. (better to +3/+4 instead of full sending exp)
ou upgraded will effect where the next substat will be upgraded within 4-5 upgrades
stat doesnt matter) and your current relic you just upgraded has a crappy 2nd line substat,
ed 2nd substat line to be upgraded and upgrade that one.
constantly being recorded and realizing patterns within the data. It's using what's in the game to the player's advantage.

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the next substat line to be upgraded will go depending which line you are on for each

be somewhat predictable this way as long as you stay on the same character, meaning you can switch to another relic
Just don't leave the relic/upgrade menu and th

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Arifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
32% Substat 1 32%
32% Substat 2 32%
4% Substat 3 32%
32% Substat 4 4%

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
4% Substat 1 32%
32% Substat 2 4%
32% Substat 3 32%
32% Substat 4 32%
don’t leave the relic upgrade/equip window) that has the desired stat you want (like crit rate or crit damage) on the 2nd line then
e times(hitting same substat formation) or level each substat once.(step formation)

Normal Step Formation(down) - 3rd substat start


Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
>>>>> Substat 1 5%
Example >>> Substat 2 20%
>>>>> Substat 3 35%
Substat 4 40%

ormation resets to a new formation(any of the formations shown below)


u where you select what relic/artifact you want to upgrade/equip. This means you will get switched to a new formation too.
going through 4 line formations which is shown on Sheet 2 (3Line Relic Theory)

Upgrade 3

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
15% Substat 1 5%
30% Substat 2 10%
50% >>> Substat 3 15%
5% Substat 4 70%

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
30% Substat 1 14%
45% >>> Substat 2 40%
10% can x3 if here Substat 3 45%
15% Substat 4 1%

ghly suggested to force reset line by +3ing a 3 liner relic)


Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
40% >>> Substat 1 20%
10% Substat 2 35%
40% Substat 3 10%
10% Substat 4 35%

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
40% Substat 1 5%
10% Substat 2 13%
40% >>> Substat 3 70%
10% Substat 4 13%
Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
15% Substat 1 5%
5% Substat 2 70%
50% >>> Substat 3 15%
30% Substat 4 10%

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
15% >>> Substat 1 35%
30% Substat 2 40%
50% Substat 3 5%
5% Substat 4 20%

Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
30% >>> Substat 1 70%
45% Substat 2 10%
10% Substat 3 10%
15% Substat 4 10%

a 3 line) also this can be a variation of the double up to step down formation with the 5th upgrade ending up on the 3rd subsat b
Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
40% >>> Substat 1 35%
5% Substat 2 40%
20% Substat 3 5%
35% Substat 4 20%

oes, highly suggested to force reset line by +3ing a 3 liner relic)


Next Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
40% >>> Substat 1 35%
10% Substat 2 20%
40% Substat 3 35%
10% Substat 4 10%
mpact
50+ relics each player15000+ relics upgraded

me to the player's advantage.

line you are on for each +3(HSR) or +4(Genshin)

ng you can switch to another relic/artifact and the "line" should be in the same spot.
ave the relic/upgrade menu and the substat line will still be in the same spot

If one of the 4%s is Leveled you have a chance of


x3-x4 up on that substat
or bouncing back to the substat you came from

or crit damage) on the 2nd line then level it up + 3 to upgrade that line.
witched to a new formation too.

Upgrade 4 Upgrade 5?(sometimes happens before

Reset
Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance
Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 25% Has a High chance of hitting substat 3 be
>>> Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


Substat 1 25%
>>> Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 25% Has a High chance of hitting substat 3 be
Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


Substat 1 25%
maybe Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 25%
maybe Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 25%
>>> Substat 3 25% Has a High chance of hitting substat 3 be
Substat 4 25%
Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance
Substat 1 25%
>>> Substat 2 25% Has a High chance of doubling up before
Substat 3 25% Has a High chance of hitting substat 3 be
Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


Substat 1 25%
>>> Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 25% Has a High chance of hitting substat 3 be
Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


>>> Substat 1 25% Has a High Chance of Hitting 1 more time
Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 25%

grade ending up on the 3rd subsat before resetting to a new formation


Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance
>>> Substat 1 10% If here will hit another time.
Substat 2 5%
Substat 3 80% Will reset to new formation after this
Substat 4 5%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance


Maybe Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 25%
Maybe Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 25%
etimes happens before resetting)

ce of hitting substat 3 before you reset to another formation

ce of hitting substat 3 before you reset to another formation

ce of hitting substat 3 before you reset to another formation


ce of doubling up before reseting
ce of hitting substat 3 before you reset to another formation

ce of hitting substat 3 before you reset to another formation

ce of Hitting 1 more time before reseting

formation after this


Base Theory For 3 Line Substat, This Is a basic theory where t
+3(HSR) or +4(Genshin)
Editors : BigBoiPinoy, imxypher

Blue = Current Substat Line You are On

New Relic/Artifact Sta 3 Line

Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx


Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4
-Adding a new substat resets the formation.
-You can upgrade a 3 line relic and switch to another relic(dont leave the equip/upgrade relic/artifact page) to force

Upgrade 1
The Early return to "Step Formation"
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

The "Genshin Impact" Formation


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

Early return to step formation (doubling)


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

The Genshin Impact Formation Ver.2


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

Force to Step Formation (can go either way, meaning it can go down to Substat 1 instead of Substat
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

The Step Hop Formation from 3liner start( this one might be hard to predict, suggested to force reset
Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4

Genshin Formation Double Up


Relic/Artifact xxx xt Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx
Substat 1 0% Substat 1
Substat 2 0% Substat 2
Substat 3 0% Substat 3
Substat 4(not here) 100% >>> Substat 4
ic theory where the next substat line to be upgraded will go dependin

ext Substat LvL Chance


20%
35%
15%
30%

ade relic/artifact page) to force these formations to happen

Upgrade 2

ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% >>> Substat 1 25%
35% Substat 2 50% >>>
15% Substat 3 10%
30% Substat 4 15%

ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% Substat 1 8%
35% >>> Substat 2 35%
15% Substat 3 8%
30% Substat 4 49% >>>

ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% Substat 1 30% >>>
35% Substat 2 10%
15% Substat 3 30%
30% >>> Substat 4 30%
ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% Substat 1 8%
35% >>> Substat 2 35% >>>
15% Substat 3 8%
30% Substat 4 49%

o Substat 1 instead of Substat 3)


ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% Substat 1 10%
35% Substat 2 50% >>>
15% >>> Substat 3 25%
30% Substat 4 15%

edict, suggested to force reset by upgrading a 3liner or exiting the menu)


ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% >>> Substat 1 25%
35% Substat 2 50%
15% Substat 3 10% >>>
30% Substat 4 15%

ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
20% Substat 1 30%
35% Substat 2 10% >>>
15% Substat 3 30%
30% >>> Substat 4 30%
l go depending which line you are on for upgrades

Upgrade 3 Upgrade 4 Reset

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 15% Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 25% Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 50% >>> Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 10% Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 35% (high chance) Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 35% >>> Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 15% Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 15% Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 8% Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 49% >>> Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 8% Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 35% Substat 4 25%
Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 35% >>> Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 35% Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 15% Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 15% Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 35% >>> Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 35% might go here Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 15% Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 15% Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 49% maybe Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 8% Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 35% maybe Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 8% Substat 4 25%

Relic/Artifact xxx ext Substat LvL Chance Relic/Artifact xxx stat LvL Chance
Substat 1 8% Substat 1 25%
Substat 2 69% >>> Substat 2 25%
Substat 3 8% Substat 3 25%
Substat 4 15% Substat 4 25%
Upgrade 5?

High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation

High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation

High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation
if you hit here you are in a new formation
High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation

High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation

High chance of 5th upgrade being 3rd substat before going new formation
BigBoiPinoys Theory on Adding a Substat you w
Editors : BigBoiPinoy, imxypher

-Works about 50% of the time. no guarantees. Better than not working at all
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- Noticed For Wednesdays(PST) you Have A high chance of adding Break Effect, Effect Hit Rate, and Def % regard
- Noticed For Tuesdays(PST) you have a high chance of Getting Flat Substats Added. Never try to add substats to

credit to @imxypher (YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMC2kqcOVuP5Suh37b3mIsg) for suggesting desired 4


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choosing that you want testing needed for satu
instead of only one relic having it may lead to reduced chance of rolling the 4th substat) ===========
select the fourth substat that you actually want (on 4th line) then upgrade the relic
the upgrade should land on the 4th sub line
if you select the 3rd sub first then the 4th, you will get the 1st sub
if you only select the 4th sub, you will get the 2nd sub
bstat you want to 3Line Relic/Artifact

nd Thursdays(PST)
all the other crappy substats that are
ve a chance to gain flat attack. Relic/Artifact xxx Next Substat LvL Chance
rs of
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level substats.
using the same method with Substat 1 0%
r viewers Substat 2 0%
Hit Rate, and Def % regardless of what Substat 3 0%
ver try to add substats to a 2/3 line on thSubstat 4(not here) 100%
^Trying to get this substat to be the stat
you want

sg) for suggesting desired 4th substat theory

re testing needed for saturday and monday


(**ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF PROBABILITIES FOR ONLY ONE RELIC WITH SUB VS 2 OR MORE RELIC
ITH SUB VS 2 OR MORE RELICS WITH SUB IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE**)
Extra Weird Detail for when what happens when you add
When you add a substat to a 3 liner, the 4 substats on the relic will be realigned to follo
This Data can help you in different ways if you are following formation theory, can also screw up how
Also this explains why top line is always flat stats if there is any.

Example :
Default Filter Order:
Flat HP Relic/Artifact xxx
Flat ATK ATK%
Flat DEF SPD
HP% Break EFF%
ATK% Substat 4(not here
DEF%
SPD
CRIT Rate
CRIT DMG
Effect Hit Rate
Effect RES
Break Effect
ens when you add a substat to a 3 line relic(happens on HSR)
the relic will be realigned to follow the default filter of top to bottem stats when you RELOG into the game
mation theory, can also screw up how hard it can be to upgrade certain substats you want if you find it easier to hit some substa

Disconnect and RELOGIN


Relic/Artifact xxx Relic/Artifact xxx
ATK% ATK%
SPD SPD
Break EFF% Crit Rate%
add sub Crit Rate% Break EFF%
ppens on HSR)
RELOG into the game
nd it easier to hit some substats on other lines

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