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1 Engine and peripherals

STARTING - CHARGING
16A
Kangoo II

Fault finding – Role of components 16A - 2


Fault finding – Operating diagram 16A - 3
Fault finding – Features 16A - 4
Fault finding – Customer complaints 16A - 5
Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A - 6
Fault finding – Tests 16A - 15

V1 Edition Anglaise
"The repair procedures given by the manufacturer in this document are based on the All rights reserved by Renault s.a.s.
technical specifications current when it was prepared.
Copying or translating, in part or in full, of this document or use of the service part
The procedures may be modified as a result of changes introduced by the reference numbering system is forbidden without the prior written authority of
manufacturer in the production of the various component units and accessories from Renault s.a.s.
which his vehicles are constructed."

© Renault s.a.s. 2008


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Fault finding – Role of components 16A
● Battery
The principal purpose of the battery is to provide the powerful current briefly required by the starter motor to start the
engine. For optimum starting, the current supplied by the battery must be sent to the starter motor with minimum
loss. To achieve this, the electrical connections (wires, terminals, connectors, etc.) must be in good condition.
When the engine is not running, the battery must feed the accessories that operate constantly, even with the ignition
switched off, such as the alarm, radio codes, computers, etc.

● Starter
This turns the engine over to make it start, and requires a very powerful electric current, which the battery must be
able to supply.

● Alternator
The alternator only operates when the engine is running. Its function is to recharge the battery, and at the same time
to supply the electrical power required to operate all the electrical accessories on the vehicle.
The alternator fitted to the Kangoo II is a controlled alternator. The UPC* controls the regulation via a serial
connection.

● Engine Compartment Connection Unit or Protection and Switching Unit


The UPC* is connected to the alternator by a serial connection. The UPC* intelligently manages the alternator
regulation voltage according to the engine phase, the battery charge, and the temperature.

● The UCH
The UCH* interprets the starting request and analyses if the starting conditions are satisfied, in order to transmit the
request to the UPC*.

*UPC: Engine Compartment Connection Unit or Protection and Switching Unit


*UCH: Passenger Compartment Central Unit

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Fault finding – Operating diagram 16A
STARTING - CHARGING FLOWCHART:

1. Battery, component code 107,


2. Starter, component code 163,
3. Alternator, component code 103,
4. Protection and Switching Unit, component code 1337
5. UCH, component code 645.

A. "High current" wiring


B. Serial connection for communication between the alternator and the UCH
C. Starter control line
D. Multiplex network

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Fault finding – Features 16A
The function of the charging circuit is to:
● Ensure electrical energy is supplied to the vehicle whilst respecting the dynamic performance constraints of
the engine and transmission assembly: the alternator resisting torques and the torque gradients measured
must be managed.

● To control alternator loading and load shedding during engine management authorisation or variation of the
electrical load.

● To ensure the quality of the on board network voltage in terms of the voltage level and variation
(voltage gradient management).

● To optimise the battery charge by applying a voltage to its terminals correlating to its initial charge status
(in sleep mode) and to its internal temperature.

● To inform the engine management about the mechanical power taken from the accessories pulley, the
alternator charge rate and the rotor excitation current value.

● To run fault finding on the charging circuit: "Battery" warning light display.

The function of the starting circuit is to:


● start the vehicle when there is a starting request from the "start" button.

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Fault finding – Customer complaints 16A
STARTING

THE STARTER DOES NOT WORK ALP 1

THE STARTER TURNS BUT DOES NOT ENGAGE ALP 2

THE STARTER IS NOISY WHEN STARTING ALP 3

LOW STARTER SPEED ALP 4

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Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A

ALP 1 The starter does not work

Test the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).
Test the condition of the power fuse (see TEST 2 Test of power fuse condition and
source of fault).
NOTES Check that fuse F12 on component 260 is in good condition.
Check ET010 Starting conditions met (see 87B, Passenger compartment
connection unit, Fault finding - Interpretation of statuses).
Check that the engine is not jammed.

Check that the following terminals are correctly tightened:


 the battery,
 the starter,
 the engine earth,
 the bodywork earth.

Retighten the terminals (see MR 417,


Are the terminals correctly tightened? NO Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery:
Removal - Refitting).

YES

Check that the following wires are in good condition:


 the wire connecting the battery +, component code
107, to terminal B+ of the starter, component code 163,
 the wire connecting the battery - to the bodywork earth,
 the wire connecting the engine to the bodywork earth.

Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If


the connection is faulty and there is a repair
procedure (see Technical Note 6015A,
Are the wires in good condition? NO Electrical wiring repair, Wiring:
Precautions for repair), repair the wiring,
otherwise replace it.

YES

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ALP 1
CONTINUED 1

A
YES

Try starting.

If the starter still does not turn, can a clicking


noise be heard when the starter is activated?
YES B

NO

With the ignition switched off, measure the voltage between the battery earth and the starter control terminal.

Voltage value?

<1V Between 1 V and 10 V ≥ 10 V

While activating the starter, measure the voltage Disconnect the starter control terminal wire and
between the battery earth and the starter control measure the voltage on the wire of connection 1A
terminal. again.

Voltage value? Voltage value?

≥ 10 V < 10 V ≥ 10 V < 10 V

Replace the starter (see MR C Replace the starter (see MR 417,


417, Mechanical, 16A, Mechanical, 16A, Starting -
Starting - Charging, Starter: Charging, Starter: Removal -
Removal - Refitting). Refitting).

Disconnect connector MM on
component 1337 and measure the
voltage on connection D.
Voltage value?

< 10 V ≥ 10 V

Repair the damaged wires and terminals of


connection D. If the connection is faulty and there
Run complete fault finding on component 1337
is a repair procedure (see Technical Note
(see 87G, Engine compartment connection
6015A, Electrical wiring repair, Wiring:
unit).
Precautions for repair), repair the wiring,
otherwise replace it.

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Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A
ALP 1
CONTINUED 2

Measure the voltage on connection BPDA between the earth taken on one of the starter mounting points and its
B+ terminal while activating the starter.

Voltage value?

> 10 V
Between 0 V and 10 V

Measure the drop in voltage on connection


BPDA between the battery + terminal and the
starter B+ terminal while activating the starter.
Replace the cable connecting the
Voltage value? ≥2V
battery + terminal to the starter.

<2V

Measure the drop in voltage between the battery


- terminal and the earth on one of the starter
mounting points while activating the starter.

Replace the earth cable(s) connecting


Voltage value? ≥2V the engine to the battery.

<2V

Replace the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging, Starter: Removal - Refitting).

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ALP 1
CONTINUED 3

Check the starting request from component 645


using ET062 UCH request to UPC (see 87G, Check for +12 V after ignition on connection AP10
Passenger compartment connection unit, Fault YES of connector CN of component 1337.
finding - Interpretation of statuses). Is there 12 V?
Is component 1337 receiving the request?

NO YES NO

Supply fault on
Check for 12 V on connection 1A of
connection AP10 of
connector MM when starting is requested.
connector CN of
YES Is there 12 V?
component 1337.

NO

Continuity fault on connection 1A between Replace component 1337


components 1337 and 163. If the connection is
faulty and there is a repair procedure (see
Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring repair,
Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the
wiring, otherwise replace it.

Check the request from component 104


using ET239 Ignition switch position
(see 87B Passenger compartment YES Is the CAN network OK?
connection unit, Fault finding - YES
Interpretation of statuses).
Is component 645 receiving the
request?
NO F
NO

Presence of effective + after ignition. Run fault finding on the CAN network
Check the voltage on connection D at
the input of the fuse of component 260
when starting is requested. Is there 12
V?

NO YES

D E

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ALP 1
CONTINUED 4

D E F
NO YES YES

Continuity fault on connection DP between components 260 and Replace component 645
645. If there is a repair method (see Technical Note 6015A,
Repairing electrical wiring, Wiring: Precautions for repair)
repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.

Check for earth on connection D of component 104 when starting is


requested. NO Replace component 104
Is there 12 V?

YES

Continuity fault on connection D between components 104 and 260.


If the connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure (see
Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring repair, Wiring:
Precautions for repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.

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Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A

ALP 2 The starter turns but does not engage

Special notes:
NOTES
Disconnect the battery earth before handling.

Remove the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging, Starter: Removal - Refitting).

Check that the ring gear of the flywheel is in good condition.

Are the ring gear teeth damaged?

YES NO

Replace the flywheel (see MR 417, Mechanical, Engine and


peripherals, Engine and cylinder block assembly).

Check the condition of the starter (broken teeth or worn gears).

Is the starter in good condition?

NO
YES

Replace the starter (see MR 417,


Refit the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A,
Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging,
Starting - Charging, Starter: Removal - Refitting).
Starter: Removal - Refitting).

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Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A

ALP 3 The starter is noisy when starting

Test the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).
NOTES
Check that the noise is actually coming from the starter.

Try to start the engine.

At what point is the noise heard?

Starting phase Just after the engine has started

Check that the starter is correctly


secured.

Is the starter correctly secured? NO

Tighten the starter mountings


YES (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A,
Starting - Charging, Starter:
Removal - Refitting).

Remove the starter and check that the


Inhibit the engine injection (see 13B or 17B,
centring pin is present. Check the condition of
Interpretation of commands), activate the starter for
the pinion and carry out a full check of the ring
2 seconds, and release the key.
gear.

Does the starter continue to run after the key is


Is a fault noticed?
released?
YES YES

Fit a centring pin, or replace the


flywheel (see MR 417, Mechanical, NO NO
10A, Flywheel: Removal - Starter control fault, check the entire starter control line
Refitting), or replace the starter (see ALP1 The starter does not work, continued 3
(see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, C).
Starting - Charging, Starter:
Removal - Refitting).
A B

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ALP 3
CONTINUED

A B
NO NO

Replace the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting -


Charging, Starter: Removal - Refitting).

Make several attempts, waiting for 5 minutes after 5


attempts (let the starter cool). If the result is still the
same after several attempts, replace the starter
(see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging,
Starter: Removal – Refitting).

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Fault finding – Fault finding charts 16A
The starter rotates slowly from the outset
The speed of rotation of the starter drops rapidly
ALP 4
The starter causes the warning lights on the instrument panel to
become very dim

Test the wiring (TEST3 Wiring check).


NOTES
Test the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).

If the fault is still present, replace the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging, Starter:
Removal - Refitting).

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Fault finding – Tests 16A
Perform this test only after running complete fault finding on the Engine compartment
connection unit using the diagnostic tool (see 87G, Engine compartment
NOTES connection unit).
Because the Engine compartment connection unit houses the CHARGING CIRCUIT
function (sub-function: alternator) and checks the alternator via a serial connection.

CHARGING

ALTERNATOR FLOW TEST TEST 1

POWER FUSE AND WIRING

TEST THE CONDITION OF THE POWER FUSE AND THE CAUSE OF ITS FAULT TEST 2

WIRING HARNESS CHECK TEST 3

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Fault finding – Tests 16A

TEST 1 Test the alternator supply

NOTES Test the condition of the battery (see 80A, Battery, Test 1 Battery check).

Engine warm and running at idle speed for 2 minutes, all consumers switched off,
measure the voltage at the battery terminals.

Voltage value?
≥ 16 V

Replace the alternator (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting


< 16 V - Charging, Alternator: Removal - Refitting).
Visually inspect the consequences (battery, corrosion, etc.).

With the engine idling, connect a current clamp to the alternator B+ wire, connection code BPDA, with all
consumers switched off.

Current < 5 A Current between 5 A and 35 A Current > 35 A

Replace the alternator Check that there are no


(see MR 417, electrical components
Keep the engine speed at 3000 rpm
Mechanical, 16A, consuming an abnormal
and still with no consumers switched
Starting - Charging, amount of current.
on.
Alternator: Removal - Disconnect the fuses one
Refitting). by one.

Value of measured current?


(i 1)

Keep the engine speed at 3000 rpm with all consumers switched on.
Main beam headlights, de-icing, passenger compartment ventilation.

Value of measured current? (i 2)

Compare i 1 and i 2

A B

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TEST 1
CONTINUED

A B

i 2 > i 1 + 5A i 2 < i 1 + 5A

Replace the alternator (see MR 417,


Mechanical, 16A, Starting -
The alternator flow rate is correct
Charging, Alternator: Removal -
Refitting).

Stop the engine

Value of the electrical current?

> 1A < 1A

Replace the alternator (see MR 417,


Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging, Alternator is correct.
Alternator: Removal - Refitting).

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TEST 2 Test the condition of the power fuse and the cause of its fault

NOTES Check that the engine is not blocked.

With the ignition off, measure the voltage between the negative battery terminal and the power
fuse output

Is the voltage greater than or equal to 10V?


YES NO

The power fuse is correct The power fuse is faulty

With the battery disconnected, measure the resistance between the


negative battery terminal and the power fuse output

Is the resistance ≥ 10 Ω?
NO YES
Possible external causes:
Disconnect the alternator + terminal, then use of a "starter charger",
measure the resistance between the negative excessively long use of starter (e.g.: activating
battery terminal and the power fuse output the starter with the gear engaged to move the
vehicle), etc.

Is the resistance ≥ 10 Ω?
YES

Replace the alternator (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging,


NO Alternator: Removal - Refitting).

Check the wiring connecting the alternator and the starter to the
battery + terminal (see TEST 3 Wiring check).
B

Is it in good condition?

NO YES

Replace the starter (see MR 417, Mechanical, 16A, Starting - Charging,


A Starter: Removal - Refitting).
B

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TEST 2
CONTINUED

A B B
NO

Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If the connection is


faulty and there is a repair procedure (see Technical Note
6015A, Electrical wiring repair, Wiring: Precautions for
repair), repair the wiring, otherwise replace it.

Replace the power fuse (see MR 417, Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery: Removal - Refitting).

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TEST 3 Wiring check

NOTES None.

Check the condition of the battery terminals.


Confirm that there is no corrosion on the battery
terminals.
Check the tightness of the terminals (see MR 417,
Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery: Removal -
Refitting).

Are the terminals and posts in good condition and Clean the terminals and posts or replace them, if
NO
not corroded? necessary
YES
Check that there are no electrolyte leaks from the
battery (cracks or breakage).
Check that the mechanical mounting of the battery
is sound (see MR 417, Mechanical, 80A, Battery,
Battery: Removal - Refitting).

Change the battery and clean the surrounding area


on the vehicle if necessary.
Is the battery in good condition? NO (see MR 417, Mechanical, 80A, Battery, Battery:
Removal - Refitting).
YES
Inhibit the engine injection (see 13B or 17B,
Interpretation of commands).
With the starter activated, measure the voltage on
connection BPDA between the + terminal of the
battery, component code 107, and the B + of the
starter, component code 163.

Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If the


connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure
Is the voltage > 2 V? YES (see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the
wiring, otherwise replace it

NO

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TEST 3
CONTINUED

With the engine running and the main beam


headlights and heated rear screen on, measure the
voltage between the battery B+, component code
107, and the alternator B+, component code 103.

Is the voltage > 0.7 V? YES Check that all the wires connecting the battery, the
alternator and the starter are secure and in good
condition, and that all their terminals are correctly
tightened and secure.
Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If the
NO connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure
(see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the
wiring, otherwise replace it

With the engine running and the main beam


headlights and heated rear screen on, measure the
voltage between the negative terminal of the
battery, component code 107, and the alternator
frame, component code 103.

Is the voltage > 0.7 V? YES Check the earths of the engine, alternator, chassis,
gearbox, battery or starter (tightness, condition of
terminals, condition of wires).
Repair the damaged wires and terminals. If the
NO connection is faulty and there is a repair procedure
(see Technical Note 6015A, Electrical wiring
repair, Wiring: Precautions for repair), repair the
wiring, otherwise replace it

The electrical circuit is in good order.

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