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A Doctoral Thesis
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Ethics
Acknowledgments p.3
Introduction p.5
Bibliography p.272
Appendices p.287
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Acknowledgments
First of all I would like to than my research supervisor, Mike Pickering, for his
the initial inception of the project to its final completion has beeninvaluable. Words
are insufficient to describe the gratitude and appreciation I feel for the dedicated
Mick Billig, Jim McGuigan, GrahamMurdock, PeterGolding, SarahPink and all the
staff in the Dept. At Nottingham Trent University, Con Lodziak for the original
inspiration and support: thanks mate, and also to Chris Rojek for invaluable advice.
Finally to my friend, Steven Stanley, who taught me the true art of academic
snobbery.
Thank you to all of the peoplewho were good friends to me through what has proved
to be a difficult period of my life: you know who you all are and there are too many to
mention here. Friendly insults must be however be awardedto Olly, Jim R, SeanD,
Bloody Kev, Bri, Dale and PC Lee, Snedda,(Da Holmes), Kito, Paula, Ged, Nicky,
Dave, Leathers, Steve Charlesworth, Coops, Beautiful Steve, Jimmy and landlady
Out Of Step Recordsand the Bradford 1in12 club, for making this study possible. A
big thanks to the Nottingham punk scene(especially Steve, Tim and Pat), Terry for
In true punk tradition, unfriendly insults (of the two-finger variety) must, however, be
extendedto those people who have made this period totally difficult for me. You
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know who you are. Also, I give the bird to the bloke who ran into my car on the MI
last March and to the Cimex lectulariuswho chosemy flat to visit during the last year
of the following people who tragically died during the course of this research. Jaz
Toomer, John Paul Morrow, Ralph Hamilton, Robert Heaton, Stig (Icons of Filth),
Rip. Also in remembranceof the following pioneers:Johnny Cash, Dee Dee, Joey
and JohnnyRamone,Joe Strummerand John Peel. All of you will be sorely missed.
For thepunks,
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Introduction
in March 1979,1 witnesseda strangesight. Four punks were standingon the comer
of the street with dyed leopard-skin haircuts, Mohawks, studded leather jackets
emblazonedwith strange band names, bondage trousers and ten-hole Dr. Marten
Boots. On the back of one of the punk's jackets was a detailed black-and-white
field. I had seenpunk rockers before and usedto passa Johnny Rotten clone on my
way home from school, feeling mildly intimidated at the sight of him. I'd witnessed
the furore of the media coverageof the Sex Pistols on the Today Show and the Day-
Glo displays of Never Mind the Bollocks album in the local Virgin record store. But
voice, booming "look at that bunch of loutsH If you ever turn out like that I'll hang
By late 19801 had found out what the symbol on the jacket meant through seriesof
questionsto older punk peers and researchin the aisles of a local record store: the
band was Crass. My friends and I ditched the Sex Pistols in favour of this strange
determined to make more headway into the now forbidden world of punk. The
austere anarchist politics on those records left me scared but the comments and the
1 Savage,
(1991:281).
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angerchimed with the senseof alienation I felt at my school and in my family. I had
that controlled our lives. Two years later I had my own band, and a much wider
Crassweren't acceptableto all the punks in my home town. I naively thought that
all punks stood together againstsociety. I was quickly proved wrong. On my way
home from school, after I had walked past the stencilled Crass graffiti ---Tight War,
Not Wars', 'Destroy Power Not People' -I was faced with the following accusation:
'Crass are a bunch of middle classhippies'. This had been sprayedby the local glue-
sniffing, self-named Chaos Punks, who felt that Crass were a sell-out of what they
consideredto be the original punk ethics of anarchy, chaos and destruction, not a
vegetariancoterie intent on challenging oppression. That was far too much like the
hippies for them. Such complicated and ambiguouspolitics were clearly not to the
Nearly twenty five years later, I'm still mesmerised,not so much now by anyone's
does not, constitute an authentic punk. A whole life-world of DiY punk has
developedsince punk's inception. This is not unitary; there are factions and splits.
There are countless bands, venues, political actions, record labels, distributors,
fanzines,to name a small number of activities that are inspired by the ethic of DiY
punk and, yes, the divisions have aged with us. Most of all there is an ever-present
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to what is consideredan authenticpunk ethic. There is of course no one, fixed or
forward.
crossover from being a chaospunk to the terrain of what was soon to becomeknown
as peace or anarcho punk, or indeed to move in the other direction, could easily
become dangerousto your health and social standing. Accusations of selling out
would arise from whatever side of punk you had previously been affiliated to, while
hostility could head your way from such youth groups as skinheads, rude boys,
trendies and the mods of the mod revival of 1980, all of whom might decide to use
One of the most long-standingdilemmas of punk has been about selling out your
band to a major label. Was this the way to go, or should you stay local,
unincorporatedand free? Was there any value in that when your influence was
minimal and you were preaching- or playing - to the converted? Could not the battle
be waged from within the music industry? But then - whence the authentic punk?
What follows is dedicatedto punk: the life coursethat should have fucked up my
life. Instead,it set me on a path of learning as well as rebellion. This is a story about
punk practice and punk values, about how people become absorbedinto punk and
sometimes disillusioned with it. It is not solely about punk. I feel that such
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preoccupationsin punk as cultural authenticity and authenticity of identity and
conduct,along with the moral and ethical dilemmaswhich the practiceof punk throws
while what can be learned from them are transferableto other social domains and
experienceto try and map out the everydayexperienceof reciprocal punk scenes. It
has long puzzled me why I was made to feel inauthentic just becauseI hadn't
purchasedthe latestpunk releaseor even knew of its existence. I grew sick and tired
or devious ways. But I continued to feel rather puzzled. I don't feel that I have
properly got to grips with it till now. The thesis is about my journey towards a
investigations that circulate around the quest. This draws directly on punk itself.
After my own entranceinto the life-world it represents,I soon learnedthat punk had
but one important ethic if you don't like something,get off your arseand changeit:
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do it yourself! The thesis is me doing it myself. By the way, my father never hung
I shall begin with what the presentwork is not about. It is not concernedwith the
practice of playing music in bands;with punk attire and style; with the relationship of
representationsof punk; with the punk scenein Europe; with touring in a punk band;
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with writing and recording punk records;with punk and the internet; with genderand
punk; with ethnicity and punk; or with education and punk. I reserveany or all of
these for future work! But they become other people's worthwhile PhD topics or
(or, as it may be, disempowered)by the DiY punk ethic. The majority of the
be caughtup in and compromisedby the control of major record labels. The interests
with freedom and accessibility. Those who have sold out, from the Sex Pistols
onwards, have been criticised for diluting or negating such freedom and turning
The focus is local, empirical and practical. I am not concerned with abstruse
theoretical formulations about resistanceor freedom but with how the DiY ethic
informs and guides everyday social living. That is why the principal method of the
in order to examine how subcultural ethics shapethe discourse and conduct of its
not driven or determinedby them. This is important. There have not been anything
regardless
recalcitrant phenomena, of whether it fits properly or in all cases. The
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neglect of work done on the ground, among subcultural participants themselves,has
investigation into over twenty-five years of UK DiY punk rock. Most similar work
hasbeenconductedwell away from the shoresof the UK and has not investigatedthe
daily participation of its membersor sought to examine how punk ethics inform the
whether academicor otherwise,is wide of the mark. This has actedas a catalyst for
clothes that are paradedin thesepublications were very much beyond the pursesof
myself and my peers. This was where DiY has been so inspirational: we made our
own clothes! (Well, at least someof the time.) Punk's early intentions were to reduce
or abolish the gap that separatesband and audience. Academic and popular writings
have since widened this gap again. I am in any case concerned more with the
participant than the musician or band. The majority of work on subcultures has
avoided any seriousdiscussionof ethics and how they are enactedat the level of the
Firstly, I seekto illuminate the daily practice of those involved in DiY punk scenes
where their actions are motivated by ethical concerns. As an ethical matter, I do not
seek to impose the theoretical doxa of previous subcultural theory onto the
they do, they exit from the culture. Underpinningthis will be an examinationof how
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the ethics of punk informs their views of remaining authenticand what they consider
Secondly,I try to illustrate how such ethics have evolved and how they inform the
daily practice of two chosenDiY punk scenesin Leedsand Bradford. I try to show
do the participants get out of what is often experiencedas hard work and toil,
Finally, I offer a groundedtheory of how and what ways those involved in DiY
importantly, why DiY punks distinguish their ethical version of punk over and above
what are taken as less favourable forms of punk. What happens if previous
passionatelyheld DiY beliefs are surrendered?Such actions are viewed as well nigh
participant sell out. I shall presentan account of these and suggestthat what they
self-righteously.
The thesis will adopt the following order. Chapter one will critically introduce the
methodology involved in the study. It makes the case for why I have struck a
to
order avoid gaggingthe participantsin the research. Chapterthree investigatesthe
participants' life histories and how they came to be involved in punk rock and why
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they came to prefer DiY. Chapterfour is a historical discussionof how and in what
ways DiY punk ethics have evolved since its inception, and how the introduction of
the UK. It resolves itself by articulating how competing versions of punk ethics
account of building a studio in a Bradford anarchist venue, the IinI2, and the
difficulties and rewards that arose out of this. It specifically answersthe question:
Chapter six offers the term genre distinction together with four sub-categoriesto
chapter seven. This chapter also details how a seriesof competing versions of DiY
between Leeds and Bradford DiY gigs. The final section of this chapter examines
how the reciprocal ethical relations betweenthe DiY scenesof Leeds and Bradford
inform each other through competing versions of DiY punk, cast along the lines of
DiY political activism and DiY punk cultural production. Chaptereight investigates
DiY ethic and selling out to major music labels. This is examinedthough the views
So to begin:
Here is a specialannouncement.
Attention please
Here is a specialannouncement
It is with deepregret
DocumentingPunk
The majority of popular literature on punk rock prior to the mid-1990s was either
severelywide of the mark, out of date,inaccurateor just plain wrong. Punk has been
portrayed as a politically inert subculture, dead in the water by the late 1970s; a
that
suggest this 'subculture' hashad next to nothing to presentas a legacy.
keyword 'punk'. The result of around 200 books was hardly interesting or inspiring.
in what they call the post-punk-period. Where were the voices from both myself and
my peerswhose life experienceof punk has occurred during the 1980sand 1990s?
peoplesimply did not exist, accordingto the literature. From this explorationinto the
entirety is beyond the scope of the present chapter. The literature has clearly
The chapter is set out in three sections. Firstly, I shall present a general overview
improvement on past and present subcultural research. Finally, I shall examine the
work of what I call the punkademic: those academics who chose the punk scenes for
I
examination and analysis. shall survey both books and journal articles from the last
twenty-five years.
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The popular literature on punk is broad, ranging from instruction manualson punk
and aerobics (Mancini & Jasper,2004); through cookbooks (McGuirk, 2004); punk
biographies(Gray, 2001; True, 2002; McNeil & McCain, 1996; Cohen,2001 Parker,
2002; Ramone and Kofman, 1997); punk fiction (Spreecher,1994; Hister, 2000;
Sheppard,2001; King 2001); punk concert posters and artwork (Turcotte, 1999;
2003). These select titles, amongst many others, cover some of the key areas of
The books written on 1970spunk were one of the catalystsfor the presentresearch.
The vast majority of theseconcentrateon a set period of time in either England or the
US (West, 1982; Gibbs, 1995; Vale 1995,1996; McNeil & McCain, 1996) with the
chief magnets of attention being The Sex Pistols (Vermorel & Vermorel, 1978;
Parker,1999) or The Clash (Green and Barker, 1997, Gray, 2001; Topping, 2003;
the cost of the wider subcultural context. Literature on the 'classic period' offers a
small advancementon this position, covering bands, fashion, media, venues record
labels and fanzines (Burchill & Parsons 1978; Palmer, 1981; Marcus, 1993,1994;
Kelly, 1996; Gibbs, 1996; Perry, 2000; Nolan 2001, Colcgravc & Sullivan 2001).
3 There are
also a number of biographiesof the other punk bandsof this period and beyond: The Jam,
Willmott (2003); Siouxsie and the Banshees,Paytrees(2003); The Stranglers,Cornwell and Drury
(2001) to namea small number.
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However, what this work seeksto do is reify the punk in terms of a period, a 'classic
draggedback into the media spotlight and their leadersquestionedby media pundits
it
on what was like to be involved in this classic era? Kelly reflects this view in the
"Gosh, Uncle Danny, what did you do in the punk rock wars?" With eachpassingyear it
gets harder and harder to believe that it all really happened,never mind to remember
what you sawand heard,to work out what it all meant(1996:5)
To concentrateon that small number of either New York or London bands in a
small spanof time, and transform them into upper-case'Legends', is to entirely miss
the point. The legacyof punk seemsto have largely ignored by the writers mentioned
this far. Colegrave and Sullivan (2001) insist that punk is still required but
completely fail to recognisethat it never went away. It just left the well-lit shoresof
the major recordlabels for most of the 80s (SeeGlasper,2004). They note:
Most of the peoplethat helped us with this book believe that the attitude of punk is even
more relevant to today's bland society than it was 25 years ago, and it is time for that
movement to arise. It is possible that the current renewed interest in punk is tacit
acknowledgementthat today's establishmenthas even more control over youngsters.
T'his control is more sophisticatedthan in 1976, but perhapsmore effective. Kids are
passiveconsumersof media and pre-packagedmusic ... The media style magazinesand
the music and fashion industries have designer-labeledand "individualised" for the
massesevery possible trend to ensurethere is no more DiY style or music to interfere
with the seriousbusinessof cateringto the youth market. (2001:384)
From this perspectiveMY punk never happened,my subjectsDiY projects were
not mentioned, only sugar-coated,sold-out media celebrities exist for passive kids.
The hierarchical pop music culture that punk set about to overthrow, along with the
pompous famc-inflated rock star, have been overlooked. The irony of popular punk
Such arrogantly titled books as Gibbs (1996) Destroy: The Definitive Guide to
Punk Rock, through its rhetorical use of definitive, simultaneously bars any fresh
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subculturalinnovation and reffies the legend statusof the punk godfathers.Again the
with a number of 'safe' punk events and no significant insult aimed at HRH. The
establishedUK punk as a threat to the moral order. Twenty-five yearslater they were
(28/05/02)ran an article, 'Face It Punk Was Rubbish, ignoring all the bandsthat had
the genre that had inherited punk ethics. During the actual 'jubilee' period, fresh
interest was inspired in the punk 'era': much of it concentratedon John Lydon's
celebrities of punkl. Old interviews were reprinted with detailed inspectionsof the
'key' bands of the period. The legacy was further enshrined to the status of a
Museum. From surveying this literature you could easily be convinced that punk is
actually dead. It was not until the mid-1990sthat this imbalancewas beginning to be
redressed. Predictably I have not been alone in my criticisms. Slowly but surely there
has been a steady set of biographies published from participants in UK's punk legacy.
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The exception to the amount of uselesspopular literature regarding punk and its
'jubilee' was a number of small articles hinting that there may have been somepunk
subcultural activity beyond the punk years. Just possibly, the Dodo was not dead.
a short testimonial to the streetpunk and anarchopunk genres. He has since written
the excellent Burning Britain that details the street-punk genre of post 1977 UK
set of bands that occurred in the early 1980s. Glasper's 'second wave of punk'
subjectsprovide a very telling and informative insight into the political and social
first wave bands had achieved (2004:8). As most of the band members were
unemployed, anger and frustration were voiced via the inherited and inspired DiY
ethic to the DiY punk record, many of which were distributed through the early
records released in this way. This ethic allowed numerous unemployed and
one of Glasper'sintervieweesstated:
The secondwave of punks were the kids who like ourselveshad missedout on punk the
first time around, who were less pretensiousand proud to be punk for the youth culture
side of it. The climate of the time included football terraceculture and teenagerebellion
againstoutragedparents(Gritton, in Glasper:2004:8).
Glasper brackets off the political aspect of punk's legacy, the anarchist inheritance
Rimbaud (1998), former drummer of the band, offered an excellent and informative
'5Ilis book only dealswith the British streetpunk genre. He plans to write an anarchopunk book in a
for 2005. Seealso Joynson (2001) for an annotatedand prolific punk discography
similar vein
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insight that chimes with the testimoniesand actions of the participants of this study.
IndeedCrass,inspired by the actionsof the Sex Pistols and the Clash, championedthe
the early 1970s. Crass took the MY scene into the anarchist political realm and
transformedit into street protest, non-violent direct action and animal rights action
that began with the actions of Crass. This has a firm foothold and legacy in the
throughoutthe thesis.
Finally, Mudrian (2004) offers an excellent insight into the post-1984 legacy of
oral history, Mudrian offers an insight into the beginnings of the subgenresof
grindcore and death metal; both had links to the DiY ethic and the anarcho punk
John Peel Show, is the DiY practice of tape-tradingas central to the crystallisation
formation DiY
of new and separate musical forms 6.
and genres
and
connections between the two scenes in the mid-1980s established chiefly though tape
6 See Marshall (2003) for an excellent accountof tape tradersand bootleg collectors
also
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trading and its associatedcorrespondence.Through such trades and the subsequent
punk scenefrom the early eighties onwards. There are a numberof interestingbooks
written from the point of view of band members(Snowden& Leonard, 1997; Bessey
et al, 1999; Azerrad, 2001; Spitz & Mullen, 2001; Sinker, 2001; Mullen et al, 2002,
American Hardcore from the perspectiveof the band and DiY label involved from
oral history interviews with the band members of the American hardeore scene.
Hardcorewas one of the few forms on which the major labels were unwilling or unable
to capitalise.Coke snorting A&R types refusedto take the shit seriously. Bands didn't
work through typical channels.With hardcoreoutfits coming from such a self-destructive
underground,who were labels gonnasign? Four belligerent kids who'd most likely wind
up in a mentalhospital or jail? (2001:275-6)
Unlike the UK where the majors were fighting with each other to sign up punk
the major labels at bay through their perceived musical ineptitude and un-
marketability until the mid 1980s. Blush takes the view that those bands appearing
of the original
authentic/inauthentic, era/selling-out in the same vein as Rimbaud's
view on hardcore'scontemporaryrenaissance:
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As for the current hardcorerenaissance,I don't wanna deny the legitimacy of today's
teen angst. I just feel like, "Yo, make your own fucking music! Why ape the music of
my saladdays?" I can relateto thoseold Jazzor Blues catswho played back when it was
all about innovation rather than formula, and who now see a bunch of complacent,
umpteenthgenerationbeneficiaries claiming the forms as their own. Face it, hardcore
ain't the sameanymore, it can still make powerful music, but it's an over with art form.
It's relatively easy to be into now but back then it was an entirely different story.
(2001:10)
Such a renaissance,for the UK, happenedaround the time Blush insists was the
eighties positive hardcore movement detailed through the voices of the bands and
recordlabels.
his experiencesand the voices of core members of the scene. Absent from the
accountare the daily activities involving the daily reproduction of a DiY sceneand
how this is achieved. There is a specific rhetorical purpose to this book. DiY is
what specific ways this is achieved:the everyday is left off-limits. In spite of such
criticisms, this and Blush's work provide, together, very detailed and valuable
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The literature on MY punk and hardcore is a significant improvement when set
The major criticism of the collective body of work thus far is its over-relianceon the
musician, manager, venue, label or source close to the band as the harbingers of
those not centrally involved as band members,yet performing tasks central to DiY
punk's reproduction. There is little detail of the wider context: how do participants
get into punk, what do they do in it and how do they leave? More importantly, there
imbalanceand examine how and in what ways the dilemmatic authenticity of DiY
to the punk scenes. The DiY ethic of self-expressionhas an equal foothold in the
punk fanzine that has held sway as an individual form of punk expressionsince the
mid 1970s(Perry 2000; Duncombe 1998; Sabin & Triggs, 2002). Assessmentof the
sheer number of punk fanzines and their content is way beyond the scope of the
presentwork. US titles Flipside, Maximum Rock n Roll, Heart AttaCk [sic), Punk-
Planet and Hit-List; UK titles such as Raisin' Hell, Punk Shocker, Fracture and
ReasonTo Believe,with the exceptionof the last listed, RTB, (which refusescolumns)
all containedcolumns and letters sectionsin which expressionand points of view are
articulated. Yet, such writing still brackets-off the daily experiencein a sequential
order. Such columns provide limited explanatory power of the everyday worlds of
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TheorisingPunk
has been established. I have outlined how the majority of punk literature is
subculturesin the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Punk has not escapedacademicscrutiny. It is
my intention in this section to situate punk in the existing cultural studies literature
itself as a significant advancement. Firstly, I shall deal with theory that does not
endpoints. Finally, I shall review the academicpunk literature and journal articles
that specifically addressrelatedareasof punk culture that are discussedin this thesis.
The early locus classicuson selling-out is Adorrio and Horkheimer (1944). Their key
assertionis that the artistic actions and aspirationsof artists were always already part
of the capitalist culture industry. The strangleholdof capitalism spelt certain doom
for all previously subversive art forms and radical spaces.Specifically, the profit
(Adomo & Horkheimer, 1995: 155). The only potential form of subversionis evident
reach of the masses. Potentially subversive musical art forms such as jazz are
dismissed by Adorno (1941). He stated that the rhythms of jazz replicate the
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mechanisedproduction system: they have no subversivequality to them (see Held,
1980: 99-105). Such theory has been describedas 'totalising' (Jay, 1973) and over-
pessimistic(Rojek, 1995:
18). Adorno and Horkheimer's work is enormouslysubtle,
yet the broad argument is one of the commodification and negation of subversive
Hebdige (1979,1988) in the fist instance argues that punk had its subversion
commodified in this way before later suggestingthat the codesof the culture industry
offered by Bey (1985), who introduces the term Temporary Autonomous Zone
the purposeof the presentwork. The term TAZ is accuratefor discussionof political
protests,warehouseraves, sit ins and as I shall discussin Chapter7, front room gigs,
yet the autonomousspacesI visited such as the lin12 have beenin existencefor over
to
attempt exist outsidethe culture industry7
The cultural critic, Richard Hoggart (1957) practically continued the theoretical
trajectory of Adomo & Horkheimer (1944). He was equally influenced by the work of
F.R Leavis (1930) and Q.D Leavis (1932) that also containedthe conservativeview of
the past which took the view of classic literature as character-buildingand popular
literature as slovenly, part of low culture and unworthy of study. In his 1950sLeeds
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auto-ethnography, Hoggart's argument was that the commodification of culture
reduced the once self-produced and autonomous British working class culture of the
hark back to a real and authentic past of particular interest to the present work. Such
romantic views of a 'golden past' tend to represent the present as inauthentic and
uncritical. The above quotation from Blush (2001) with reference to the golden age of
To present the past as authentic and aspects of the present culture as inauthentic is
only one dimension of this argument. The dualism can occur along the lines of a
of how this occurs. My own work is indebted to his observations relating to the
concepts of authenticity and selling-out in the jazz musician culture. Whilst jazz
musicians viewed themselves as 'hip' and 'outsiders' against the wider society, they
developed their own deviant subculture with its own values and norms:
Where people who engagein deviant activities have the opportunity to interact with one
anotherthey are likely to develop a culture built around the problems rising out of the
differences between the definition of what they do and the definition held by other
membersof the society. They develop perspectiveson themselvesand their deviant
activities and on their relationswith other membersof the society (1964: 81).
Outsiderswere commonly referredto by jazz musiciansas 'squares': those deemed
the hipsters possessed. Somewhat confusingly, in Becker's work this term also
their subculture. Square musicians were equally viewed as sold-out and held
responsible for undermining the hip musician's artistic integrity and authenticity
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Outsidethe subcultureof the musician,the squareexertspersonalchoice over which
concertsand music they listen to, in turn undermining the authentic position of the
hipsters. The hip jazz musician experienceda difficult position and this 'lies in the
fact that the squareis in a position to get his [sic] way: if he doesnot like the kind of
music played he does not pay to hear it a second time' (ibid). Through a lack of
understandingof jazz culture, the square controlled the means of support jazz
of the squaresas this provides a reasonableincome for the jazz musician. Being
forced to play inauthenticmusic (swing and big band), Becker argued,placedthe jazz
authentic. (ibid: 92) The lure of going commercial hinged on survival need. The
chanceof creativity but this was compromisedthrough the needto provide revenuein
out:
If you want to make any moneyyou gotta' pleasethe squares. They're the onesthat pay
the bills, and you gotta' play for them. A good musician can't get a fucking job. You
gotta' play a bunch of shit. But what the fuck, let's face it, I want to live good. I want to
make somemoney; I want a car, you know how long canyou fight it? (ibid: 92)
This compromise, Becker argues, results in some musicians refusing any contact
with the squaresand attemptingto remain authentic at all costs. From this position
they were able to aim political commentat wider society and its squareculture. One
group, the XAvenue Boys, totally rejected American society with song titles like 'If
you Don't Like My Queer Ways You Can Kiss My Fucking Ass' (ibid: 98) and
adopted 'extreme artistic and social attitudes' (ibid). Likewise Becker describesa
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statementthat reminds one of anarcho punk, this group of musicians attemptedto
They were unremittingly critical of both businessand labour, disillusioned with the
economic structure, and cynical about the political processand contemporarypolitical
parties. Religion and marriage were rejected completely, as were American popular and
seriousculture, and their reading was confined solely to the more esotericavantegarde
writers and philosophers(ibid).
However, it was increasingly difficult to maintain such attitudes and remain a
professional musicians located work for each other as they gradually sold-out.
The man who choosesto ignore commercial pressuresfinds himself effectively barred
from moving up to jobs of greater prestige and income, and from membershipin those
cliqueswhich would provide him with the security and the opportunity for such mobility.
Few men are willing or able to take such an extremeposition; most compromiseto some
degree(ibid: I 11).
From this position Becker was able to neatly articulatehow and in what specific ways
pressure.
concerns of the present work. There are two key similarities. Firstly, Becker
resultantconsequenceof burnout: burnout and selling out are issuesI shall focus on in
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Secondly, he illuminated how critique and creativity clustered around the
difficult it was to continue such a position against the mainstreamwhen the latter
my own work on UK DiY punk scenesis the effort to create free spacein which
implicit critique of the culture industry and its efforts at catering for massculture can
from the wider historical settings, the point of departureis that DiY punk raises a
and musical/aestheticstatements.
TheBCCCS.,Subculturesand Countercultures
From the early 1960s, under the guidance of Hoggart and Hall, the Birmingham
aestheticsand the daily practices of everyday culture (During, 1993; Storey, 2003).
From the 1970s onwards the Centre shifted focus to the study and explanation
of
& Jefferson, 1978; Hebdige, 1979). Clarke and Jeffersonpresentedan edited reader
Gramsciusedthe term 'hegemony' to refer to the momentwhen a ruling classis able, not
only to coercea subordinateclassto conform to its interests,but to exert a 'hegemony' or
,total social authority' over subordinateclasses. This involves the exerciseof a special
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kind of power - the power to frame alternativesand contain opportunities, to win and
shapeconsent,so that the granting of legitimacy to the dominant classesnot only appears
to be 'spontaneous'but natural and normal (1976:38).
According to the authors,the arrival of subcultureswas a result of post World War
problem-solving:
dependentupon how and in what specific ways such individuals negotiatedtheir class
activities in this respect tended to be played down or ignored, though how the
A more significant criticism is that the BCCCS together with the literature on sub-
and countercultureswere too theory-driven. With the exceptionof Willis (1978), the
madeon behalf of the participants. Their personalvoices were subdued,if not gagged
terms, they offer little opportunity for examining and understandingthe detailed
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revealedmore of the researcherthan the subculturalist. Many valuable ethnographic
fresh set of subcultural studies. I will say more regarding how ethnography is a
fledgling works on punk rock. For Hebdige, the control of the punk subculturewas
enactedin two specific ways. Firstly, in a similar vein to Cohen's (1980) work on
moral panics, punk is controlled through denigration in the mass media (the
Hebdige's point of view, it appearsall too easyto negatea subculture. This portrays
subculturalists as willing participants in their own fate. The present study will
to ideological and commodity forms. As I shall discuss at length the reaction and
responsefrom those who claim to be authentic DiY punk and hardcore cultures has
been one of self-exclusion from the culture industry; the identity of the latter is
remain at an underground level where the term scene is more appropriate than
and rhetorical and are useful as broad explanations of why punk occurred.
Subculturesas defined by the BCCCS are working class and chiefly concernedwith
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such issuesas clothing style and establishinga separatesubcultural.group identity and
formation geared towards human emancipation and freedom. The legacy of the
actions of the 1960s counterculturefeed directly on into the anarcho punks of the
1980s in their fight against the Cold War arms race and animal exploitation
chapter four, such historical goals inform both the ethics and practice of anarcho
punk. While in many ways this definition seemsappropriate,it tends to play down
document and explain the main elementsof this cultural moment (see e.g. Nuthall
I/
1968; Roszak 1970; Douglas 1973; Musgrove, 1974; Foss and Larkin 1976; Eco
2000; Leech 1973). The most suitable working definition of this term is drawn from
On the ideological level, a countercultureis a set of beliefs which radically reject the
dominant culture of a societyand prescribea sectarianalternative. (1973: 9)
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DiY cultural production fits with the above definition through its attempt to reject
visible elements of DiY culture such as road protesters, eco-activism and anti-
New Age travelling (Mckay, 1996,1998; Bircham & Charlton, 2001; One Off Press,
2001; Hetherington, 2000). This literature, with the exception of its coverageof
Crass,has screenedout DiY punk events of the last two decadesfrom its selective
history. Though this has been rectified somewhatthrough the surfacing of insider
the helm. DiY Culture: Notes Towards an Intro (1998) is one of the first and most
roundedin its historical scope,the main problem with this text follows McKay's own
admissionthat his attemptat chartingDiY culture is 'too neat' (1998:2). Any account
of such culture will have significant omissionsto it. Where Mckay succumbsto his
own criticisms is his wholesale avoidance of punk DiY cultural production. DiY
Culture producessound historical coverageof the early antecedentsof 80s and 90s
protest and hippie culture, yet overlooks punk and hardcoreDiY cultural production:
8 This
use of a this conceptual term 'underground culture' by McKay (1998) is indicative of the general
lack of uniform conceptual clarity within subcultural and popular music studies. Ilere are currently a
plethora of terms ranging from the imprecise use of underground culture, resistance culture,
community, subculture, scene and tribe etc. as general descriptors of these groups. This presents a
conceptual confusion and the blurring of explanatory boundaries that are on the whole, empirically
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reading of UK DiY culture firmly located in the practical, political form of New Age
cultures. This is supportedthrough the writings of key activists in his edited volume.
McKay has little time for discussionof the UK's DiY hardcore and punk networks
that voice very similar concerns and sympathiesand also raise their own political
political activism as cultural production, McKay unwittingly throws the baby out with
In my darker moments-I think that Zines and undergroundculture are not supposedto
changeanything. Maybe for all their ranting about subverting this and overthrowing
that, zines aremerely a form of political catharsis,and undergroundculture is meantonly
to be a rebellioushaven in a heartlessworld. One of the cultural attributes of a cultural
spacelike the undergroundis that it allows its participantsto engagein a critique of mass
society and to construct alternative models of creation, communicationand community.
But what happensif all this soundand fury stayssafely within the confinesof the cultural
world? What then doesit signify? (1997:190)
He then proceeds to note:
But since all of this [DiY cultural production] happenson a purely cultural plane. It has
little real effect on the causesof alienation in the greatersociety. In fact, one could argue
that undergroundculture sublimatesangerthat otherwisemight be expressedin political
action (ibid).
McKay proceeds to note that this is a misreading of DiY culture, arguing that
today's British DiY activists 'are more likely to be voiced by invading [industrial
polluters] offices and disrupting work, trashing the computersand throwing files out
of the windows' (1998: 5, italics mine). This may well be the case,but McKay and
DiY as they mutually coexist within certain genresof punk and hardcore. McKay's
unverified and wide of the mark. See Hesmondhalgh (2005) for an astute,critical accountof such
conceptualdivergences.'Me presentwork conceptuallyusesthe term subcultureas an overarching,
general descriptor of music cultures (including all punk sub-genres,membersand associateactivities)
and 'scene' as the various local interpretations of subcultureas used in vernacular terms by the study
participants,interviewees and author. See pp.34,43 & 227-8 below.
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argumentis that the free parties and rave eventsattendedby subculturalistsinvolved
in DiY activism are the real and only, authenticUK DiY cultural production worthy
of attention. This is only half of the picture. As I suggestin this thesis,DiY punk and
ground with direct action countercultures. In his earlier work, McKay (1996)
introducesthe work of Crass,yet fails to trace the influence and legacy of that band
endpointinto his work for DiY punk, servesas a convenientdistraction from the punk
legacy that has come to fruition in the UK. Overall, it seems that McKay has
UK punk.
earlier, the definitions of sub- and countercultureare inadequatefor the task as they
concernsis too stark, exclusive,and restrictive for the work presentedhere. For this I
work for ideological and rhetorical effect and servesthe conceptualpurpose in what
The term scene, as used by the author, participants and interviewees, is used to
describe the various interpretationsof punk throughout this thesis, a point I shall
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because,with the notable exception of Crass,it has overlookedthe post-1977 sphere
SubculturalEndpoints
authentic historical document. This is problematic. Where does DiY culture start,
never mind end? Pearson(1983) has disputed claims (such as those of the BCCCS
have been made concerning the phenomenaof moral panics. By establishing that
deviant subcultureswere visible in terms of distinct style and identity on the streetsof
London in the late 19thcentury, together with associatedmoral panics over street
challenged.
endpoint. Those who employ and stand by subcultural. endpoints risk the
concerns of the present work stating that 'punk faked its own death' to avoid the
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incessantcommodification of the culture industry. The author also outlines in the
broadestof terms the legacy of DiY and political actions enactedunder the punk
banner since the first punk obituaries were written. As I have argued elsewhere
restriction on future commentaries. The most salient work cited by myself and
England. Nelson is one of the key producersof the thesisthat the counterculturehad
failed in its aims by the beginning of the early 1970s. Indeed throughout this work
one is constantly reminded of this 'fact' as she keenly commits her version of the
failed countercultureto a chapterof history. In the closing statementsof her book she
notes:
counterculturallegacy beyond 1973 (though she is wary of the totality of her initial
rave cultures,direct action cultures,eco warriors and road protestors(I 996:i). Nelson
action'sinspired others to embark upon similar projects. The anarchist lin 12 club
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Crassthemselvesplaced an endpoint of 1984 on their activities. This was the year
they ceasedto exist asa band,but it did not representthe endpoint of all endpoints.
in one form or another. The endpoint also servesthe discourseof the authenticpunk.
six.
Post Subcultures?
The catalyst for this revision was the explosion of rave culture around 1987 which
terms in order to remain 'hip' (1995:115). 1have much to say in relation to how punk
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The point of departurebetweenThornton's work and my own is one that I will pay
the entrance to, and the practice of, DiY punk. Beyond rave culture, post-
on goth subculture displays certain tangentswith the present study. Primarily his
broad umbrella of punk from the 1980sonwards and provides support of my use of
also some discussion of the insider and outsider and this is the point of departure.
Hodkinson's interest lies in the styles of the genres as expressedin clothing and
musical style and how these are enactedwithin the different goth scenelocalities of
the UK. He has little discussionof the specific ways goth scenesuse genresto present
ethnographicallydriven, hark back to the old, familiar issue of clothing and genre
style. Earlier I noted that Hebdige (1979) produced one of the first academic
explanationsof punk rock. He made much of the stylistic 'bricolage' (see Levi-
Strauss,1962) the early punks displayed in the late seventiesthrough their 'cut and
paste' dresstechniques. He commentateson the useof the bin liner and the dog collar
as being blessed with fresh subversive meaning by the punks (1979:107). This
ways divorced from the underlying ethics and actions of the 1970spunks within an
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economicand political context. Twenty one years later Muggleton (2000,2003) has
convincingly set the scenefor a group of writers operatingunder the broad term of
youth subcultures. All the distinctive lines have (apparently)evaporated. The over-
culture under the control of Adorno and Horkheimer's (1944) culture industry. My
own study pays virtually no attention to the examination of clothing style, instead
examining how DiY punks create a moral alternative to monopoly control over
basis.
From a DiY punk perspectiveto remain outside of the culture industry is to remain
authentic. It has, from the point of view of the people interviewed for this book, very
little to do with their trouserstyle and much more to do with their ethical philosophy.
9 There has also been a poststructuralistinvestigation into style and authenticity that proves to be as
frustrating asthe over-theorisationof the BCCCS. SeeWiddicombe and Woofitt (1990,1995).
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and the postmodernistpostsubculturalistsare of limited value in relation to the present
work. I want to neither to draw heavily upon theory as an explanatory tool, nor to
ethical framework.
ThePunkademic
Lovatt and Purkiss(1996) observeda shift in the agesof those academicswho choose
simply did not agree with the existing subcultural literature. As I noted in the
The 'ill fit' betweentheory and practice is being addressedby insiders. Muggleton
states:
T'his situation is producing a new cohort of academic taste makers for whom the
deficienciesof establishedtheories are Rely to be thrown into sharp relief by their own
personalexperiencesas,say, punks or clubbcrs.(200:4)
At the WolverhamptonUniversity 'No Future' conferenceSeptember2001, on the
25'h anniversary of the Sex Pistols gig at the London Hundred Club, I
gave a paper on
DiY punk. The term banded around the
conference to describe the delegates was
'punkademic. ' The recent glut in academic literature on punk, I suspect, is due in part
to the scenario that Muggleton et al illuminate. Let us put this term to work and
In tandem with the popular punk literature, the equal expansion in academic punk
literature and journal articles produced by punks or those who claim to be ex-punks,
has expanded from the mid-1980s onwards and deals with a variety of issues that
usually reflect the academic's own subcultural experiences. Space restricts full
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discussionof theseworks but the broad frameworksare as follows. Topics of concern
to punkadernicsare: the origins and meaning of punk and its genres(Laing, 1985;
Home; 1995); social class and rhetoric (Simonelli, 2002); punk and censorship
(Kennedy, 1990); punk and literature (Sabin, 1999); American hardcore and style
(Willis, 1993); postmodern theory and punk (Davies (1996); and hardcore punk
dancing(Tsitsos,1999).
The key punkadernicsdirectly relevant to this thesis are O'Hara (1995); Leblanc
ethnographicwork done I
on punk culture reserve for discussion below. In The
presentinga basic insight into the world of American DiY punk. Insider insights are
provided into the ethical philosophy of the scenea term I shall deal with shortly. The
majority of this work is either derived form interviews performed by the author or
from various fanzinesof that period. What O'Hara's work does specifically is serve
though a fixed definition of the ethical framework. His study lacks ethnographic
they function in participant terms, how they used to castigatecertain punks as 'sell-
absentfrom the works that I have thus far described. There is an implicit irony in
punk that requires detailed examination in order to supply a critical context to DiY
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Throughan ethnographicstudy of punk girls Leblanc (2001) presentsa valuableand
study has many features in common with the present work in that there are
coremember.
mix of quantitative methods, BCCCS subcultural work and grounded theory, yet
offers a rather clumsy mix in which its findings, far from a groundedtheory, present
work beyond the band member and towards the sceneparticipant. The most central
value was how political issues were read through their punk ethics, although the
squeezing of his subjects into quantitative social class categories diluted the
ethnographicnuancesof what the punks actually did on a daily basis. The temporal
structureof the working day is largely absentfrom all of the literature. Nothing has
beenwritten about what constitutesdaytime activity for DiY punks. I hopeto redress
this balancewith an examinationof the daily practice of DiY and its consequences
on
subculturalmembershipin chapterfour.
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A numberof articles have beenwritten about American hardcoreand politics.
the classic pitfall of exclusively discussing bands and band activity. A significant
advanceon this is O'Connor's work on the punk Canadianand Mexican punk scenes
this study. Among other things, he tracesthe securing and developmentof a punk
venueand cafe spacein Toronto during the 1990s.This is very similar to my work at
the Bradford lin12 club. However, his study lacks the ethnographic detail of a
any detailed analysisof how the ethics of DiY punk are utilised to createthis space.
is little detail of how the ethics and the participants of DiY produce such a scenein
the first instance. For O'Connor, they appearto have arrived out of thin air, straight
off the backs of the original punks. Yet this is not to dismiss this work completely.
O'Connor (2002b) equally offers an extremely valuable insight into how the
participants of punk use the terms 'scene' as a descriptor of their own world. Here
O'Connor is explicit:
When punks use the term 'scene' they meanthe active Creationof infrastructure
to support punk bandsand other forms of creative activity. This meansfinding
places to play, building a supportive audience,developing strategiesfor living
cheaply,sharedpunk houses,and suchlike (2002b: 226).
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Somewhat paradoxically, following from my criticisms, the lack of specific
ethnographicdetail in O'Connor's work allows the transfer of the term 'scene' to the
local punk communities of Leeds and Bradford featured in this work. The term
4scene'asusedin the presentwork has a heavy debt to O'Connor (2002b) who states:
'The term 'scene' is usedhere in the sameway it is usedwithin the punk scene'.The
same applies to my own work, with the author, participants and interviewees alike
using this terms as the main lexical referenceto the placed embodimentof their daily
interactionswith the punk community (2002b: 225). 1 shall return to the conceptual
work on Mexican punk (2003a & b; seealso Sorrendeguy,2001). Here the ethics of
DiY political activism and DiY cultural production. His article clearly describeshow
thesetwo modesof activity mutually co-exist. The main problem with it is that there
that would enableus to seehow the entranceprocessto punk DiY could have helped
production, creation and application of punk ethics, along with their generationand
I leave the most glaring gap in the subcultural and punkademic literature until last.
All of the previous ethnographic work on punk subculture has been done outside the
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UK'O. There has been no academicethnographicwork done on the legacy of DiY
punk in England. This is a huge hole in the literature that the present work is
designed,at least partly, to fill. I hope that the illumination of how and why punk
ethics in its daily practices will move the existing literature more securelyinto new
" The
other significant examples of work done on contemporary musical subcultures are Finnegan
(1989) writing on local music cultures; Cohen, (1991) on Liverpool bands signing to major labels;
Bennett (1999) on hip hop culture in the North East.
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Chapter Two: The Ethnographic Punk
Introduction
in
are of generalvalue abstractterms, cloud the view of the actual punk scenes. I
in
resulted an over-concentrationon subculturalstyle and a neglect of how local scene
That
of closeobservationand engagement. is why my own work dependscentrally on
the Chicago School, following the 1920s gang researchof Thrasher (1927) through
the work of Cressey (1932) and White (1943) that offer a previous subcultural
the previous Chicago work, as I pointed out in the previous chapter, was Becker's
order to retain a senseof artistic integrity, is clearly conveyed in this work. While
My own fieldwork took place in the Leeds and Bradford DiY punk scenesduring
2001, with one of the principle differences from Becker's work being that the
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locatedwithin the perspectiveof the lay participant, I selectedthe following research
participant diaries. The methodswere selectedboth for their potential to allow the
the chosenaspectsof the scene. While there are problems regarding the qualitative
methods such as critical discourse analysis (Billig, 1992) would have reduced the
(Widdicombe and Wooffit, 1990,1995) would have further narrowedthe scopeof the
concentratingon minute selectionsof detailed subcultural talk the wider context can
easily slip from view. I wanted an approachthat allows tangential theoretical points
contexts of the subcultural scenesbeing studied. At the other end of the spectrum
producedthe close detail of either the daily lives of the participantsor the subcultural
In light of the problems outlined in the previous chapter, the work of Glaser and
Strauss (1967) was chosen as the principle methodological approach because of its
interviews, field work journals and participant diaries to generate a theory grounded in
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the lived world of study participants. Hopefully, sucha theory will have comparative
A grounded theory is one that is inductively derived from the study of the
phenomenon it represents. That is, it is discovered, developed, and
professionally verified through systematicdata collection and analysis of data
pertaining to that phenomenon. Tberefore, data collection, analysis and theory
stand in reciprocal relationship with each other. One does not begin with a
theory then prove it. Rather one begins with an area of study and what is
relevantto that areais allowed to emerge(1990:23)
This work is the most accuratemethod of surveying and surnmarisingthe complex
analysingit. Its chief strengthlies in the ability of the researcherto mix observation
with interview and then to produce a theoretical explanation from which to advance
and sliding scales disrupted the sequential order of the data and the narratives
they offer the critical observationthat such theory is often over-dismissive of other
present researchwill strike a balance between grounded theory and what Geertz
(1973: 3-30) has referred to as 'thick description'. Denzin (2000: 15) has called this
disruptive for the participants and would have distorted the intentions of my field
joumals.
WhyPunk Researchers?
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As I statedin the introduction to this thesis,I have beeninvolved in punk for most of
my life, having first heard the Sex Pistols shortly after the death of Elvis Presley in
band Crass. The adoption of punk brought me into conflict with all figures of
authority, from parents,teachersand the public, to the police. Through the work of
four) I found my way into animal rights and anti-war protests. The majority of the
After I beganto releaserecordsand tour with bandsin the early nineties,I attended
university. As I noted in the previous chapter, reading the literature on punk was
disappointingin that it had neglectedto cover the experiencesI had had through the
understoodas the gatekeepersof the industry, were not required. This was an
I first cameinto contact with one of the settingsof the presentresearch,the IinI2, a
'ne late 1970s and early 1980s saw massive job losses across Britain and
Bradford was no exception with GEC and International Harvesters shutting
plants in the city. Against this backdrop a particularly strong and active
Claimants Union emerged which campaigned vigorously to improve the
for unemployed and low waged people in Bradford when, in 1981 a
situation
investigation into benefit fraud (the 'Raynor Report') found that 'I in
government
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12' claimants were actively "defrauding the state", the union lost no time in
adoptingthis statistic for themselves(What is the IM12 Club?, 1995).
Gaining a council grant to buy a building in 1988, they renovated an old mill,
through sheer detennination and effort, opening its doors two years later. My
amazementduring this first visit was that this was a three storey building, complete
with bar cafd and venue, collectively run by punks: no bouncers,high beer prices or
DiY space was largely confined to squatting a terraced house for a month. We
name. The I in 12 was in an entirely different league. It was on a par with many of the
European squats that have been established since the late 1960s (see Skelton &
Valentine, 1998).
A decade later, as a part-time university tutor, I felt that the lin12 presenteda
perfect ethnographic focus for DiY culture. The Club is the ideal setting for
connectionswith the club though my band playing there from 1995 to the present,in
My band had played all over the European mainland, mostly in the squats, and
across the UK we had releasedrecords. We relied upon the hospitality, trust and
friendship of the DiY support networks that exist acrossthe punk world. At a local
level, through my participation in the band with three of the membersfrom Bradford,
sceneand the neighbouringpunk scenein the city of Leeds. Bradford's lin12 scene
appeared to be geared towards the close connection of DiY punk and cultural
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production, while Leeds appearedto be more concernedwith the latter and with
remaining avante garde in its approach. The club struggled to survive financially
during the late 1990s. It witnessed a move of lin12 people to the Leeds scene,
resulting in the club facing possible closure in 1999. There was also a close
connectionwith lin12 people and a squat venue in Leeds run by ex-club members.
What this signalledto me after over two decade'sexperienceof punk culture was an
how an ethics producesactivity and, moreover, what the participants get out of an
adherenceto such ethics. My close associationwith the club had both advantagesand
researchand gain their formal consent. This is discussedfurther later on. On the
order to become an academic participant observer of the scene, rather than a lay
not only be drawn on; it also provided the inspiration to conductthe study in the first
The fieldwork was accomplished over a four-month period, divided equally between
the two subcultural scenes of Leeds and Bradford". The chosen settings for the
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researchare the linl2, which has been in existencefor over 20 years and had 640
members in 200112 The building has a number of collectives that stem from
.
promotions to food-growing. It was selected due to its ideological links with
also for its long standingconnectionsto punk and hardcorewith its countlessshows,
recordlabels,and fanzineproduction.
one of the core membersI knew through playing the club. This was considerably
helped by being previously known to the club. Beyond this my project had to be
researchproject in advance, stating the central aims of the study and the contact
observation,ask for diaries and conduct the actual interviews from June to August,
exactly what I would be doing at the club. This was only clarified on my arrival by
giving a presentationto the club and sketchingout any ethical difficulties that could
arise during the research. I was informed I would be building a recording studio in
I noted above that Leeds was a multi-sited DiY scene. This entailed visiting a
number of venues during the evenings. It was impossible to negotiate access and
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permissionby all concernedso I took the ethical approachof being clear to thosethat
asked that I was doing participant observation. Occasionally I was one of the
activity: a punk and hardeorerecord shop in the city centre. Staffed by two people
who I knew from playing gigs with their bands,I called the shop and it was agreed
that could conduct participant observationthere from the end of August until mid-
writing. I was informed that I would be involved at all levels of the organisationof
the shopand consideredas and equal partnerduring my time there. The sameethical
Tluough my fellow band membersand their contactswith the Leeds DiY scenea
Ethics
featuredin the researchby name. All the other intervieweeswere anonymisedas far
as possibleand all identifying characteristicsin the interview data were altered. This
13Seeappendix3.
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protection. Rubin and Rubin (1995:
39-40) note that in many ethnographiesthere is a
for their protection. The reversewas the often the case as I completely blended in
they were not involved in an everyday conversation. The informed consent form
The geographical locations in the research are genuine as are the names of the
venues. Where specific buildings and organisations are mentioned, I have retained
their original names. This is also the case with all the bands named in the research.
Both the lin12 and Out of Step, the Leeds record shop, in addition to the Leeds
promotions collective, Cops and Robbers, were happy for their organisations to
All of the participants of the research signed an informed consent form (see
appendix 2), clearly informing participants of their right to withdraw from the
researchat any given point and also noting that they could withdraw any comment
within two weeksof the interview (Silverman,2000: 200-2). This occurredonly once
when the interviewee felt that the comments made could both compromise his
personal safety and erase his integrity within the scene nexus.
requested by me within the field setting where I deemed the activities and
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occasionsI was declined interview opportunities. The broad reasonsgiven ranged
from no specific reasonand a shrug of the shouldersto 'I couldn't tell you anything
you don't already know, if it's all the sameto you, mate'. This illustrates one of the
central difficulties of my insider status (see below). Such wishes were respected,
facedwith rebuttalsof this nature. That said, one of thosewho turned me down was a
core member of the studio project I was involved with at the linl2, Mr. U, and he
than an interview.
Pilot work
The pilot work aided the developmentof the researchand was chiefly refined by a
methodschosen. Rather than trying to remove oneself from affecting the behaviour
escapethe social world in order to study it. Nor fortunately is that necessary
(1983:15).
At all stages of the research, reflexivity became a constant feature through which I
was able to alter the research design in addition to my field conduct. Reflexivity was
original research intention differed considerably from the approach chosen in the end.
This was to read the actions of DiY punk ethics through a critical response to the
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totalising theory of the Frankfurt School, assertingcomplete capitalist triumph over
particularly through the work of Foucault (1977,1978). This theory was to be fed
level. However, an initial, unstructured pilot interview was patronising, to say the
speak. The following section of interview in the Mr. A transcript betraysthis initial
error ofjudgement:
Int: Just as a final question,then, or maybe as a discussionpoint becauseI feel that this
has been more of a discussionwhich is just as useful as an interview. Uhhm, we began
the interview talking about wider political contexts, a wider social, cultural and moral
structurethat feedsinto the shape,or form, of the I in 12 and the Leedsscenein general.
What issues of knowledge, for you, or cultural, political, economic issues shapethe
discipline of this scene?
A: Uhh?
It became rapidly obvious that I was forcing a theoretical agenda upon the
interviewees and failing to get the level of data required. Through a reflexive
grounded theory approach (Glaser and Strauss, 1967) the questions were vastly
with the semi-structuredstrategy. The value of this method of interview was that it
the interview. From the pilot work, the interviews were transcribedin orthographic
In addition to this I also visited and played a number of punk events as part of my
research. The main pilot work for participant observationtook place at a GBH gig at
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the Old Angel, Nottingham, 2000, with the field-journal written up after the concert.
One of the early problemswith this researchwas that it was all too familiar, the close
detail was slipping from view. I have been to thousandsof punk concertsover the
It became obvious that I was missing the obvious. Glaser (1978), and
years. quickly
it obscures crucial aspects of the field: this kind of acquaintancecan block the
researcher from seeing things that have become routine or obvious 41).
(1990:
in an entirely different way (ibid: 76). My chosen method was to silently question
comer, how are they doing it and to what benefit? This strategyallowed me to begin
From the interviews and pilot observation I wrote a 3,000 word piece of test
analysis on the issue of political correctnessin punk. This was submitted to the
for the researchmethodscourseI had taken. The ironic use of punk as an ethic of 'get
pissed destroy' against its political incarnation of liberty and freedom through
rebellion and the subtletiesof languageuse in the lin12 becamea grounded theory
with direct relevanceto the ironic ethic of DiY I maintain in the presentwork. The
first class mark awarded this essay confirmed the successboth of the method of
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methodologicalstrategyfor approachingthe research. Yet in spite of this, the use of
narrative of their life-histories. From this decision the broad narrative of the
QuestionStrategiesandInterviews.
All interviews were tape recordedand conductedeither at the I in 12 club, the record
shop or the interviewee's house. On the tour, interviews were conductedin over ten
out of the pilot work (seeappendixone). The questionswere field-tested until there
career with the final section geared towards the issue of the dilemmas circulating
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and Nobacon, the open questioning strategiesfollowed the trajectory of the existing
interview narrative, although the questionswere geared and altered relative to the
specific actions of each individual's activities, their respective bands and their
personalfeelings in to
relation accusationsmade that they had sold-out. The final
revision to the question strategy was for the focus group done with the Leeds MY
promotions collective, Cops and Robbers. Here the general frame of the questions
establishedtheir DiY promotions collective and what the specific problems were
accountsoften proved difficult for someof the participants,as for examplewhen they
were askedto remembertheir punk origins, someof which occurredin the late 1970s.
There was the additional and thorny issue of the honesty of such accounts. All the
Participants
The participantsof the study were drawn from the club membersof the I in 12 and the
Leeds hardcore and punk scenes. They ranged in age from 20 to 42 years. As a
reflection of the ethnic compositionof the punk scene,they were white and originated
across the class spectrum, with varying levels of educational background. Their
geographical origins were in the main in West Yorkshire, with the remaining
participants hailing from Manchester,Birmingham, the North East and the southern
these cities. Although there was some familiarity, and in spite of my previous
I
experience, was still a relative newcomerto the scene. Intervieweeswere selected
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after I had established some rapport through working with them or through
conversationsregarding the researchduring gigs and social events,on the street and
interview. The interview with Robert Heaton came through him producing Mr. J's
band. J invited me to the recording and I already knew Robert from the 1980s. He
also kindly agreedan interview. The majority of the interviews were arrangedduring
hardcorescenes(seeLeblanc, 1999).
TheDiaries
During the years leading up to the researchI had already begun to keep a diary
of
some of the events during my travels with the band. This is referred to only once
during the thesis but it helped to lay the footings for it and it also reveals the dual
existenceof the researcher. This was in keeping with the sociological tradition of a
life-history approach (see Bertaux, 1983: 29-47). However, aware that I was not
of the key participants in the study to keep diaries. There was a predictably mixed
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in a detaileddiary suppliedto me by Mr. 1. Mr. I proved to be a valuable resourcein
the field work. Of the seventeendiaries,only Mr. I's featuresin the thesis. The other
diaries either detailedaspectsof DiY not coveredin the presentwork, such as touring
depthin the interviews. Someof the diarists abstainedfrom writing and insteaddrew
keeping the diary and refused to let me read it, due to issuesof confidentiality. I
consentform to cover the diary material. It took upwardsof a year to collate all of the
diaries. Overall the diary method proved the least successfulof my mixed-methods
TheField-Notes
Field-noteswere written from memory and pocket book notes. Reflexively they were
journal. After the four-month fieldwork period, 154,000words of field notes were
the two key fields of observation. Time was consistentlyset asidein the eveningsand
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one day per week for the writing and study of this journal in order to reflexively
Analysis
difficult task to familiarise oneself with a large amount of data. Using grounded
theory as my principle method, salient and significant selectionsof the data were
the practice to the exit of the participants,concluding with the final discussionof the
method of 'thick description' and the coding of general themes in the researchin
involved becomingfamiliar with the data to the point of saturation. This allowed me
to see where the most salient featuresof the data had made themselvesexplicit. In
forcing the data and allowing the meaningto 'emerge' as it were organically from the
data (Glaser, 1992). Through detailed analysis and coding of the data, patterns
lifeworlds. This chimed in with one of the key aims of the research- to allow the
AssociatedProblemsand Dilemmas
Certain difficulties aroseduring the field work that were connectedwith the overall
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take two as illustrative of the generalproblems of conducting ethnographicresearch
the anxiety that I was somehowselling DiY out to academicscrutiny, and that I was
guilt led to a preoccupationwith the question as to why certain DiY practices are
adheredto. Here I felt like I was playing at being DiY, not actually doing it. The sole
reasonI was there was not for the completion of any particular task at hand (though
this was exceedinglyimportant) but to study those doing DiY. I occasionallyfelt like
a completeimpostor, a fake: in short a sell-out myself with my feet in two worlds and
major record companieswhilst aware that this work could possibly end up in the
the daily workings of the club, record shop,touring and gigs, this awkwardnessbegan
field, I lost the critical distance with which to make clear observations. Glaser's
perspective here. The issue of memory also struck in places where it was difficult to
take notes. In this case a pocket book was used. Frequent trips to the toilet allowed
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for the privacy of note-writing in order to secure fine detail. Harnmersley and
I
activities progressing, observedmyself growing in political militancy. This was
reducedin the multi-sited sceneof Leeds. The changeclearly illuminated how the
TechnicalProblems
On four different occasions, I lost valuable interview data due to tape recorders
breakingdown. Often not discovereduntil after the interview, whilst reviewing the
further crucial problem was relatedto computeruse. Whilst in the field the short life
Conclusion
models into the methodological framework, instead opting for a reflexive balance
narratives. This is the most appropriateand effective way of gauging how DiY punk
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ethics are practically drawn upon and mobilised through their entranceinto, practice
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Chapter Three: Entrance
Introduction
This chaptersetsout to answerthree questions:how did people enter the broad punk
subculture,why did they becomeinvolved, and what was their experienceof entry? It
primarily through a discussionof the social role of music, for the key motivating
factor for entry was an initial engagementwith the music of punk rock and its various
towards a senseof affinity within the subculture. Bound up with it are claims towards
section of this chapter will situate such claims in relation to actors' claims to
authenticity.
In order for clarification of what follows in the empirical work I have constructed
levels of involvement. Firstly, the core, thosethat engagewith and perform core daily
secondly, semi-peripheral, those who regularly attend DiY events and have
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sceneat a marginal level and have little involvement with core and semi-peripheral
tasks
heuristic processof trial and error. I contendin this chapterthat entranceto the punk
is
subculture such a practice and argue that the early experience of punk rock is
tape trading and 'hanging out' with subculturalpeers. Theseare integral to achieving
primary investigation will be an account of how the participant entering the punk
maintains its practice as authentic. Full participation within punk at this stage is
restricted and informed through wider social constraints such as age, school and
parentalrestriction.
and the repetition of subcultural activity. For example, regularly going to concerts
and playing in bands, or running record labels, are vital for this deepening
commitment. Again, underpinningsuch activities are claims that the actor's selected
chapter I will examine such claims to authenticity and investigate how the study
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participants enriched their punk commitments by becoming associatedwith and
The chapter is broken up into three key sections dealing with pre-existing punk
involved with punk, a number of the interviewees made claims regarding their
their first engagementwith the wider punk subculture.This senseof prior orientation
1983revealedsimilar disenchantment to
and claims authentic feelings of rebellion:
Punk didn't influence me to the way I am much. I was always this way inside. When I
life. I finally be myselE (Fox, 1986 in
cameinto punk, it was what I neededall my could
Adler & Adler, 1993:378)
by
Similar sentimentswere expressed the interviewees in the present study. Mr. 0
'
anyway. Ms. W 'I
stated: already had alternative ideas, I guess,to the mainstream
and on how people should run their lives and treat other people: [punk] openedme up
to a whole other world'. Mr. F reported:'I've always had the feeling that stuff wasn't
quite right but punk kind of gave me the information'; Mr. G noted: 'before I came
into contact with the DiY hardcore punk rock movement, I would have thought of
myself as probably a bit more conscientiousthat your averageJoe Bloggs causeI was
into recycling'. Finally Ms. M claimed '[punk] hasn't altered me because I kind of
14Fox, K.J. (1987) "Real Punksand Pretenders:The Social Organisationof a Counterculture." Journal
ofContemporary Ethnography, Vol 16, No, 3.
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thought that way for the past ten years anyway.' Andes (1991, in Epstein, 1998)
What the Fox and Andes studiesfail to do is to locate such utteranceswithin the
note how some of the above claims, presentingthe speakeras 'always' feeling this
claims such as 'punk hasn't alteredme' and 'I was probably a bit more conscientious
than your averageJoe Bloggs' stakeout the rhetorical claim for the existenceof their
authentic rebels. From this position punk is sought out as a secondaryconduit and
As such claims are made after the intervieweeshave already become long-standing
members of the punk subculture, fin-ther explanation is required. Apart from the
One such factor is the generalpunk aesthetic- the subcultural framework of social
sought out by the majority of the study participants. But how were these subjects
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claims appearto be for
a valid explanation punk subcultural entrance,yet this is not
feelings at school. Mr. B statedhe was 'on me own for a few years, and noted a lack
of contact with similar punk peers. Mr. 0 statedthat 'I have always been a bit of a
loner,' whilst Ms. W commentedon the fact that she 'didn't really gel with the people
in
growing up a Derbyshiretown in the mid describing
1980s, his primary subcultural
peersentering into punk. Due to this relative isolation, he found that his main point of
to
access punk music was initially buying his music from the major music stores:
HMV and Virgin recordsis. Such intervieweeslater sought out punk peer groupings
by
united their outsiderstatus.
isolation were the sole factorsresponsiblefor punk subcultural entrance. This would
fail to explain how other subculturesare, or are not, entered- if at all - from those
15The involvement HMV Virgin to be a retrospective point difficulty for Mr. C and
with and proved of
some surrender/admittanceof his early authentic punk status was evident in his interview. He is
presently deeply committed to the ethics of DiY, yet he admitted that his initial procurementof punk
records camethrough engagementwith theseshopsand theirdubious' standing within the DiY punk
community. The justification of this was presented due to his lack of knowledge of the scene. In
he lit
retrospect argued: was the only way I had of getting hold of the stuff 'cos the distros that you see
nowadaysthat are so common,weren't in abundance[then]'. This justi f ication is a central issuein the
defenceof authenticity and all I wish to do presently is note how comment on previous engagement
with such shopspresenteddifficulties for the speakerwhich result in the latter, subsequentjustification
of previousactions. Due to its retrospective,dilemmatic status,full discussionof suchjustifications are
reservedfor chapters6&9.
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who do not share such disenchantmentand isolation. What unites such entrance
mainstreamor 'normal' culture,but it doesnot always follow that the potential entrant
peers. In one interview, the initial entranceto punk was articulated through a clear
Mr. G spoke of his entranceto punk culture as a result of jettisoning his pseudo-
lack of acceptancewithin his peer group, full inclusion in his peer group acted as a
catalyst for him to enter into the punk subculture. Mr. G claimed he was fully
accepted by his peer group, and made the case that he set in place many of its
this rebellious attitude it rendered himself and his existing subcultural practice
unexplored, obscure punk subcultural groups in order to mark out his authentic
[1] liked being a bit of a rebel at school. I was always like trying to be the first to do
everything. I was the first to grow my hair long out of our group of friends, first to dye
it, the first to get senthome form school for having scraggyjeans and stuff. It got to the
point where suddenly loads and loads of people would do it and, wanting to be a cool
trend setterat the time, I was like I have to get into somethingdifferent! I was like right,
what's cool? OK, I'm going to be a skater.
Here the reverse of the opening sections statements detailing loneliness and
outlines the pleasureof being a rebel. He strove to establish a fresh outsider status
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and sense of difference as a hip practice in order to gain further acceptanceand
esteem from his peers, while also simultaneouslyestablishing 'cool' distance from
them16. It also provides a neat exampleof how an early senseof what it is to belong
was deemed by G to have been undermined and 'sold out': his rebellious 'trend-
is
setting' status negatedand a new authentic subcultural strategy sought out. Such
isolated outsider as 'Prime' material for entranceinto punk rock. Here Mr. G is
attempting to establish distance from his peers in striving for a new, authentic
subculturalidentity.
from them, or with society in general:in short a senseof difference. Where loneliness
has the immanent potential to propel the individual to seek out and identify other
peers who share the subcultural norms and values. But the opposite of loneliness,
peer celebration, may prove the conditioning ground for punk. In a sort of heroic
individualism, Mr. G set out to investigate the subculture more fully for himself
16Forbiographical of theSeattlegrungegenreandNirvanaseeAzerrad,(1994);Cross,
overviews
(2001).
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Having establishedthat the antecedentconditions of subculturalentranceare centred
comesto the fore is how this initial investigation is carried out that allows the actor to
becomea full participant? What are the initiating factors that introducethe subculture
Primary Investigation
The next section details the early experiencesof making contact with the wider punk
or, indeed, inauthentic. Entering into the subculturein this age group involves a large
teachers,parentsand family 17
members .
There are three key points of primary investigation in entrance to the punk
subculture: media interaction, the introduction of the punk subculture through peer
and family groupings, and the first attendanceat concerts. The majority of the
intervieweesreported that they enteredpunk in their early teens. This age of punk
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entrancehas also beenpreviously documented(Andes, 1991:216; Leblanc, 2001: 69-
76).
The first of the factors,mediacoverageof the punk culture over the last twenty-five
years, has provided a key inspiration and influential entrancecatalyst for a number of
the intervieweesof this study. Similarly, Leblanc (2001:70) reportedthat one of her
informants was first exposedto punk agedsix, seeingthe Californian punk band Fear
'you'd better not get into that shit!' (2001:70). Entrancewas eventually made at the
saw television reports of the Sex Pistols on the BBC programmeNationwide in the
sameyear and this led him to buy the band's records. Mr. I's first contact with punk
came through the BBC Radio I John Peel Show playing the Ramonesand Damnedin
1977. Younger participants such as Mr. B and D both cited the British heavy metal
press of the 1980s such as Kerrang and Mega-Metal Kerrang. Papers covering
underground hardcore bands gave them the impetus to investigate the subculture
Thrasher and its column on hardcore punk provided inspiration to enter the
I got into hardcorespecifically around the age of eleven through looking through metal
magazinesand seeingthe odd interview with hardcore bands in there and from there
going and picking up theserecordsand checkingthem out.
This quote neatly summarisesthe practice of primary subcultural investigation in
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fleeting glimpsesof the obscurebandscoveredin such magazinesled to B's further
F stated that the twilight hours ITV heavy metal TV programme, Noisy Mothers,
introduced him to the punk genre in the early 1990s. Through his involvement in
I used to read the American magazineThrasher,which at the time was a newsprint sort
I
of magazine. mean the print run was not so greatbut it used to make its way acrossto
the UK and in that magazine there was not only skateboarding but there was a music
column with interviews with hardcore punk bands. The guy who wrote it, Pushead,
[AKA] Brian Schroderhad a great influence on me and was responsiblefor getting me
into all kinds of different hardcorepunk bands.
This is of equalimportance.
The majority of the intervieweesspoke of peer, sibling and parental relations and
is
this the secondkey factor in investigation. From his initial interest in punk,
primary
'a For a fall, historical accountof skateboardingand it's connectionsto punk and hardcoremusic see,
Borden,1(2001) Skateboarding,Spaceand the City: Architecture and the Body, Oxford: Berg
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then blossomedinto a friendshipig. Oncesuchpeer groupingsare established,mutual
primary subculturalinvestigationcanoccur.
This was exemplified by Mr. Q who reportedhow he came acrossPunk through his
friend's tales of accompanyinghis elder brothers to punk gigs in the early 1980s.
this subculture,his friends' activities in punk appealedto his senseof difference and
[we] used to borrow and buy records,get drunk and put them on. Me and him used to
throw each other round the room dancing to fucking, you know, some of the favorites
were like Cruciffix Antisect and the Subhumans.
Here the rehearsalof subcultural sceneactivities through primary investigation is
clearly articulated. Q shows how borrowing and buying records, getting drunk and
his main activities of primary investigation. Whilst not able to attendconcertsat this
point, the reciprocal engagementwith punk recordsand similar peersis a central part
of primary subculturalinvestigation.
demonstratedby Mr. 0. He first cameinto contact with the punk scenearound 1983
with peers. For 0, the first Chronic Generation LP, from the street-punk band,
19Hodkinson (2002)
came across evidence of similar affiliation through the recognition of subcultural
badges of membership in his ethnographic study of goth culture. Here he makes specific reference to
the affiliations of subcultural members not only within their immediate locality but globally.
20Street
punk is associated with the bands of the early 1980s who espoused working class politics and
styles far removed from the anarcho punk scene. Bands such as Glasgow's The Exploited,
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It wasjust like so, it wasjust fucking pink and yellow and it was Day-Glo as fuck and it
was punk rock. It was out there.
Here an excited, emphaticclaim towardsthe authenticity of punk rock is made: O's
identification with the Day-Glo of punk rock authenticity serves to mark out the
boundaries for him of what is and what is not punk rock in terms of his chief
the bands his time of entry whilst also signifying to his other peersthat he
popular at
was 'into' the 'correct' music suitablefor inclusion in his discourseof entrance.
Thus far the influence of peers, siblings and friends has been chief in the role of
clear example of this is the Leblanc (2001) quotation above that details the parental
introduced him to the punk subculture. Raised by his grandparentsin the south of
England, Mr. V found that his primary subcultural investigation was kick-started by
the music his visiting mother played him, such as the Sex Pistols and Nirvana in the
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early 1990s. He found this music did not exactly chime with his senseof taste in
punk music:
I got into sort of alternativestuff like the bigger bands,Re Nirvana and stuff and bands
like the Sex Pistols, causemy Mum tried to play me good stuff, and I said to her I really
Re it but I want somethingthat's faster.It soundsright but it needsto be twice as fast.
What is evident here is the reverse of parental restriction and hostility towards
yet he also demonstratedthe need to investigate and establish his own niche and
only partially compatible with his existing sensibilities and aspirations. What he
statedthat both her parents'shapedher ideason life. ' Here the parentalrelations and
her ideas on life'. M's primary subcultural investigation in the early 1990s was
stuff' which she found lacking. So primary investigation has a chief role in either
activities at the primary investigative level. As with Mr. G above, for M the
music and the interaction with media coverageof the wider punk subculture. One of
the key, overarchingthemesof the interview discourseof early entranceto the punk
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subculture was tape trading (Marshall, 2003) 21. The majority of the interviewees
spokeof how they were introducedto the different genresof punk music through the
other party having the financial outlay of buying records. It was peer tape trading that
eventually inspired Mr. J to enter the punk subculture. He found that his initial
experienceof punk rock was uninspiring on first contact in 1977. He statedthat 'he
got off to a false start with the seventysevensort of stuff. Finding the heavy metal
as a 'violent fashion' that failed to appealto him. It was not until some five years
later that he beganto engageearnestlywith the punk genre. This example presents
investigation they are, in the case of these interviewees, returned to after other
reportedthat he was eventually inspired to listen to punk after he was given a tape of a
band that affirmed his political ideasof the time. After being given a tape by a friend
with the metal band, Venom and their 1982 album Black Metal, and London anarcho
21Tape trading is a resilient practice that occurs in the hardcoreand punk scenes'predating the now
popular CDR, tapes were used as the first DIY method for releasing a bands songs. From the late
1970's to the present day the tape was used to also capture the live performance of a band (often
to
referred as bootlegging). Those on low incomes of in the stageof primary investigation found the
relative cheapnessof the tape and the easeof reproduction presentedan easy way of trading music.
Tapedrecords,demotapesand live recordingsfound themselvesonto 'trade lists' sentthrough the post
or sold for a small amount. Advertising was undertakenin the smaller fanzinesand also lists of tapes
(trade-lists) were given out at gigs. 'Ibis practice enabled those unfamiliar with bands in other
countries to hear them at little expenseand to also make contacts with others around the UK and
moreover the world. Finally, during the 1980s there was a concerted effort on from the record
companiesto outlaw or tax blank tapes. Flaunting this rule chimed with punk's rebellious stance.
Tape trading still occurs but has largely been supersededby CDRs and Mp3 file sharing over the
internet. SeeMarshall (2003)
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punk band, Conflict, It's Time to See Who'sWho of the sameyear, he beganto form
political opinions:
When I first got it [tape] I was like yeah,two noisy bands. Then after a bit it was like:
shit, one of them is talking crap and one of them is talking politics. I startedto get into
the politics.
The assertionthat he preferredmusic on the tape for political reasonscementedthe
subculturein 1995 after making tapesof the deathmetal band, Obituary, and trading
From primary investigation of this tape and subsequentpeer interaction he found that
vast improvement on his idea of punk establishedfrom clips of the Sex Pistols he'd
previously seenon television. From this tape, he investigatedthe punk genre further
and found ýhatthe lyrical contentchimedwith his existing political beliefs. He noted:
[Punk's] definitely got me more into politics and awarenessof issuesand things like that.
I always had some kind of feeling that stuff wasn't right but [punk] kind of gave me the
information.
It has been establishedthrough the example given by Mr. C that the recognition of
22For a full
accountof Death Metal and other genresrelated to the ScandinavianbandsseeMoynihan,
M. (1998) Lords Of Chaos: The Bloody Rise of TheSatanic Metal Underground, Los Angeles: Feral
House. Chapter2
23SeeBlush, (2001).
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could occur. However non-musical forms of subcultural activity, such as
formation and tape trading could occur. As I noted above,Mr. G decidedto become
involved in skateboardingas both the next step in his subcultural career and as a
his school. Through this he was introducedto hardcorepunk. G statedthat his initial
contact with hardcore during this period was 'life changing' and the initial contact
was bolstered though tape trading when he was given a tape by a peer with
band, Snapcase. Further primary investigation of the genre then took place. What
tape trading allows is both the primary investigation of the subculture's musical
of friendships and peer groups with both subcultural entrants of a similar age and
occurs through the heuristic device of trial and error. It is purposive, but haphazard;
subcultureis initiated through such activities, full participation stops short of regular
The final key issue is therefore concert attendance an issue I will afford
concertsbefore the ageof sixteen.Mr. R noted that during the early period of punk he
was too young to attendthe early punk concertsin Newcastle, yet there was primary
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subcultural investigationof the subculturewithin his school peer grouping before he
I rememberthe Damnedplayed at the City Hall. I think The Stranglers,X Ray Spex was
the first punk gig I sort of think. The Stranglerswere like mid seventy-sevenand the
Damnedand the Dead Boys playedthe end of seventy-sevenand someof the kids in our
school or the kids' older brothersa year aboveme had gone to that and [punk] was sort
of coming through on a school level. And then my first outing was the Buzzcocksand
Penetrationin like March 1978when I wasjust this little geek.
For R. primary investigation of the wider punk scenewas practiced through peer
older peers' activities within the punk scenes. This came before he attendedhis first
concert. The use of 'first outing' belies R's senseof primary investigation of the
subculture while the self-referral to 'this little geek' plays down his initial
commitment in favour of his fully-fledged punk status at the time of the fieldwork.
and important principally within the actor's world of the subculturalpeer group and in
the initial practice of rebellion. It is marginal within the older and more established
subculture and its practice, is relegatedto the role of a peripheral member of the
move beyond this marginal statusand enter into a position of liminality with respect
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affiliation with it, liminal individuals enter into what I have termed secondary
subculturalinvestigation.
Secondary Investigation
with more potential, experienced and capable peers. This is done through
did so at an age where they had either left school and could attend concerts or
processthe existing peer networks formed through primary investigation within the
subcultural activities. From this, the senseof affirmation is felt, shared ways of
thinking are embarkedupon and social networks are formed allowing the subject to
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In terms of entrance,secondaryinvestigationis key in the formation of subcultural
introductory point to this section, it should be made clear that the practice of
completesubculturalsceneparticipationand practice.
Within this section I will deal with three key points. Firstly, the formation of and
deepeningof commitmentto the latter with the formation of link activities such as the
production of tapes and fanzines. Finally, as the lin 12 club and the Leeds scene
examinehow local in
punk networking and organizationoperate the role of secondary
investigation.
We wereift told that the Dead Kennedyswere a classic band and this is a classic band.
We were like: where do we start? Oh right well I went to see this band and this band
supportedand they are playing again and we should check'em out and we should do it
from scratchourselves. Every time we found a band that was amazingwe were like oh
right, what label are they on? Follow that up, check out the other bandson that label.
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From this practice the vernacularskills usedto participate in punk subculturalscene
investigative and exploratory. It is firstly investigative through the trial and error
process,as in V's caseof finding out what the 'classic bands were' and through the
is
process of ascertainingwhat good and bad practice within the subculture. This
punk. Once selected,the exploration of the specifics of that given genre can occur,
which in this case involves searching out and exploring other bands' labels and
concerts.
This practice was carried out by Mr. B in his searchfor an appropriatepeer group.
the mid-1980S.24 He found himself associatingwith 'the metal kids' for company,
although the dominanceof the metal genrewithin his peer group and the obscurity of
hardcorepunk left him with the peer statusof outsider and his isolation intact.2s This
24American hardcore,is the US equivalentand legacy of both the American and English punk scenes
and debatesare rife in relation to the exact origin of the genre. This was the genre that extendedthe
punk ethic of DiY into the formation of national and global networks. Hardcore was a phenomenon
that took a foothold in the UK in the early nineteeneighties with bandssuch as The Dead Kennedys,
Black Flag toured there. Indeedboth the aestheticand musical style of American hardcorehas become
a relatively stable influence on punk rock in the UK up the presentday. IndeedMr. R speculatesthat
the initial contact with this genrecamethrough tape trading and the Californian band, Crucifix touring
the UK in 1984 after recording for the Crass records subsidiary label Corpus Christi: entitled
Dehumanisation. Also the American band, MDC, (Millions of Dead Cops) recorded and releaseda
hardcorerecord on Crassrecords in 1982: Mull! Death Corporations. In terms of style there are as
many sub-genresand styles of American hardcoreas there are bands. Overall the tempo and speedof
many of thesebandswas faster,more energeticand the approachto the music more direct than many of
their British counterpartsin the early 1980s. For an American view of British punk's initial reaction to
the Californian hardcoreband,Black Flag, SeeRollins, H (1995) Get In the Van, Washington2/13/61
and the comprehensivehistory of American hardcorefrom 1977 until the mid 1980s:Blush, S. (2001)
American Hardcore: 4 Tribal History, New York Feral House. Also seeany issueof Maximum Rock
and Roll 1984-present.
25'Metal kids'relates to the once separategenrespopular in youth culture from the 1950sonwards. By
using the genreterm 'metal' in the mid-1980sthis servesas a genre location indicator. D is referring to
the acceptabilityof showingaffiliation with a number of sub-genresof punk in this time period and this
broadly reflects the dissolving and shifting of musical genre boundariesevident in the late seventies
and early eighties. The genreof rock known as metal was first invoked in the late nineteenseventies
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led to his continuanceof secondaryinvestigationresulting in the subsequentdiscovery
of, and his eventualidentification with, the sub-genreof straight edge. Stating that he
did not appreciatethe drinking and drug taking of his subculturalpeers,he found that
the adoption of the straight edge allowed him to 'resist peer pressureto drink'. His
It was a nice little clique to be in and therewas not that many straight edgekids about so
you had like a feeling of brotherhoodand that kind of thing. I mean if you saw some
kids into the straightedgeand stuff you understoodeachother and had a link.
present. Through trial and error, secondaryinvestigation continued until the most
terms of tasteand affiliations formed with it. The affiliation with a group of outsiders,
initially to the existing punk sceneof the late 1980sand to punk activities couchedin
to describethe soundof bandspost rock and heavy rock with bandssuchas UFO, JudasPriest, AC/DC
and Motorhead. Later the new wave of British heavy metal' was used by participants as parlanceto
describe the new metal bands of the early 1980ssuch as Iron Maiden, Accept, Ile Scorpions, The
Tygers of Pan Tang, Vardis, Venom and Samson,etc. Indeed, the music press of the time (Sounds,
Kerrang, Melody Maker and NME) coined a term for the plethora of latter bands involvement as
NWOBHM. Such genreswere viewed as distinct and separatefrom the genresof punk rock as both
the music pressand fans viewed punk as a separategenre. However, during the mid-to-late-eighties
there was a seachangeof opinion as musical styles and genresmergedwith punk. Punk and hardcore
bandsbeganto play metal and vice versa. Evidenceof this is most visible and audible in the adoption
of American bands such as Anthrax and Metallica playing fast, energeticand angry music of British
street punk combined with the dexterity and musicianshipof metal, wearing street punk band t-shirts
such as Discharge and GBH. Vice versa, punk bands such as Onslaught,Heresy, Concrete Sox and
Sacrilegedid the same. Overall this genre becameto be known as 'Crossover.' a loose term which
summarisedthe blurring of boundariesbetweenpunk, metal, hardcoreand heavy metal in the 1980s
and beyond. For further discussionof this genre see (See Arnett, 1996; Walser, 1993; Weinestein,
1991,2000). For the mediacoverageon this seethe issuesof Mega Metal Kerrang from 1986onwards
and for criticism, seethe UK scenereportsfrom the sameperiod in Maximum Rock and Roll,
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Thus far, within secondaryinvestigation,peer pressurehas remained unexamined.
Once immersed in the hardcore punk subculture, G found his peer group through
and becomestraight edge,for Mr. G the oppositeis the case:his role is reversedfrom
they meant at the time. Of all the intervieweesMr. G was clearestin relation to the
Issues of authenticity become striking here as the subject clearly makes the
16, and initially having no idea what this entailed, G commentson how this decision
involved straightedgepeer:
26Straightedgedraws its title from the DC band, Minor Threat's song 'Straight Edge' and originatesin
American hardcore from aroundl980. In short straight edge is the complete abstinencefrom drink,
drugs,premarital sex and adoptsa positive attitude. It is a reactionto the hedonismof past and present
youth culture's: this has been termed a 'rebellion againstrebellion' Lahickey (1997:xviii). Boston's
SSD and WashingtonDC's Minor Threat and a number of later New York Hardcore such as Youth Of
Today, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge and Bold were representativeof this period. For full accounts see
Sinker (2001), Andersonand Jenkins(2001) Blush (2001) Lahickey (1997).
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My decision to be straight edgeharks back to a conscientiousfashion decision back in
the day. I remembergoing to see[band] and they were all x'ing up and stuff and I x'ed
up to be part of the crew. And they are like 'oh, so you're straight edgethenT And I'm
like yeah OK, I'm straightedgeand then I kind of like found out what it meantand stuff
and I was like: Ok I'm gonnabe straightedgefor a yearjust to prove I'm not addicted. I
was like doing it purely for fashion,to be part of the crowd, to belong. Six years later I
still don't feel the needto drink or whatever.
Here there is the clear suggestionthat the processof subculturalscenemembership
is learnt - 'then I kind of like found out what it [straight edge] meant' - but taste is
that he did not fully understandthe implications of what was involved with the
'fit in', meantthat he merely assumedthis role until he could participate long enough
edge thenT also reveals either that there is some affinity being expressedbetween
questions of identity and taste. As Mr. V stated above, 'no one told us the Dead
decision to become involved to avoid peer pressureto drink and G did so merely
heuristically, detailing how the shared subcultural scene values, rules and norms
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Overall, through secondaryinvestigationthe subcultural peer group is sought out
and established. I have shown how peer pressureis either refuted or withheld as a
intensification of subcultural activities. The question arises: what shape and form
of a specific punk scene and I now wish to explore more fully the deepeningof
commitment and the more precise adoption of values within the subculture. As I
noted above, two of the intervieweeschoseto abstainfrom drinking and drug use in
similarity betweenthe intervieweeswas that all of them were, or had at some time in
were explicit in stating that the main influence for this change in diet was the
animal rights politics. Mr. Q stated on his choice of punk genre that 'if it wasn't
investigation became active, with other punks from his area, in forming a hunt
saboteurs'cell. Mr. C was explicit how his choice to becomea vegetarianwas both a
combination of the needto impresshis girlfriend at the time and his investigation of
the anarcho-punkgenre:
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girlfriend, and stuff, you want to do the right thing. So then like, I was going to be a
vegetarian. I endedup doing ft and sticking with it and got more into it.
Mr. C shows how the level of commitmentis both a combination of peer pressure
and the input of the political statementsof the genresof punk he was investigating.
Ms. M.
within their chosenpunk scenes. Mr. R madea fanzine and copied tapes for friends
before joining his first band in 1984. Danbert Nobacon took inspiration from early
concerts by the band Crass, who demonstratedthe ease of which goals could be
achieved in punk rock though DiY, and took early steps towards forming
Chumbawamba. Mr. S becameinvolved in the promotion of gigs for the lin12 club
a specific genreof punk and form opinions of what is and is not punk, is at the same
time both an index of the actors' commitments to the subculture scene and also a
get it'. Their interpretation of punk for R and his peers was inauthentic. Here R
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It occurredeverywhere,it was stupid,like, especiallythe press,Garry Bushel and Sounds
and stuff like Punk Lives with the fucking 'punk prime-minister' or whatever. And I
mean there are probably equivalentsof that now in some sort of cheesypop paper. I
mean you know it was laughable. We used to laugh our assesoff at the Exploited. I
should show you my copy of Punk's Not Dead by the Exploited where it just has these
crazy drawings just taking the piss out of these fucking goons you know. So yeah, I
wasn't really down with unity 'causethere was like punks who got it and fucking punks
who didn't.
I shall reservedetailed analysisof how such comment is engagedin the discursive
what is not - authentic punk rock. For the interviewees of this study, secondary
of punk rock and the active demonstrationof a commitment to it. One such example
for the 1inl2 Club scene are formed. Indeed, it is not only peers but also
with
organizations,networks and groups associated punk which act as a magnet for
entrance. The Iinl2 Club is introduced here as a hub of initial involvement and
outsiders due to its affiliations with anarchism and links with political activities
provided a proper resolution to the initial isolation and loneliness of some of the
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of its members came to be involved in it through their secondary subcultural
investigation. Many of the intervieweesspokeof how the club 'gradually' drew them
into full political subculturalsceneparticipation for varying periods of time. The club
Mr. C was invited to gig there in 1992; Mr. R becameinvolved whilst living in a
squat in Leeds before being invited to promote gigs there. Mr. K and Danbert
promote gigs with the club from 1983onwards and Mr. 0 and Q attendedthose and
later gigs. The binding element of attraction to the linl2 was its anarchist
its senseof difference. Mr. C referredto the club as a 'mixed bag of freaks'. The
H made contact with the lin12 club through a college friend who played in a band,
inviting him to a gig there in 1992. He was impressedwith the 'cheapness' and
authenticity of the club is alluded to in H's claim that the club is not 'in it for the
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money', and has 'no leader to dictate to you' through its collective organisation:
the punk subculture through the supportive lens of the established scene peer
and punk through picking up 'flyers' and 'chatting' to others at these events. His
how an initial friendship was struck up. Here the recognition of what he perceivedto
be an authentic, common sensibility of punk culture was made allowing him a sense
subcultural sceneactivities. Mr. K cameover and chattedto him at a lin12 club gig:
I was sat at the bar and it was really busy and he actually came up and sat next to us did
Mr. K. And it was like 'hello, like how are youT Fucking hell! Yeah, sound! And it
was like 'did you like the bandT And I was like yeah, they're really good. And it was
like 'what's your name? Oh, H, 'I'm K' it was like wicked, I [realised] I was just as
freaky as all the other peopleyou know.
For H, the initial peer relationships in punk were made through a secondary
subcultural investigation within the club where an affinity with the other club
a loner, stating that he never adopted the 'correct clothing' in order to secure
preferred to wear his own 'normal' clothing style as a marker of authenticity, yet
H's senseof differencewas upheld allowing him the esteemto enter into, and become
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further involved with, secondaryinvestigationof the club's activities. He joined the
her sisters. Here she found through secondary investigation that there was a
Everyonemoved out of my hometownand found better lives through the punk sceneand
had beento different towns endingup in Bradford, so I followed the sisterly route.
Int: What attractedyou to the punk and hardcorescenesthere?
G: well it was the peopleat first that attractedme. I just got on with peopleso well. Sort
of realisedthey are the best sort of peopleI have ever met in my life. They arejust dead
down to earth and stuff and, erm, the music grew on us at first. It wasn't instantaneous
with the music thing, it was the peopleand the senseof communitythat brought me to it.
G's term, the 'best sort of people', whose chief value for her was that they were
felt at the club. The colloquial phrase'down to earth' is a vernacular synonym for
'authentic'. Its rhetorical value is reinforced by the senseof contrast implicit in its
either delusion ('head in the clouds') or deceit ('pie in the sky'). Such terms are used
here both to verify andjustify G's reasonsfor attraction to and involvement with the
linl2. While I have previously establishedthat the combination music and politics
is the case:for G statesthat the music came after involvement and identification with
subculturalmembers. The point is not the priority of one or other factor, but the way
any can facilitate entry and then confirm and reinforce this in combination with
others.
The benefits of such a geographic move in subcultural scene terms, and the
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confidence' when she first moved to Bradford. After about three months of club
doing DiY activity, stuff that could not normally be achieved.' For Ms. G the I in 12
activity. Here the claims towards subculturalactivity centre around the senseof both
personal and collective control governing her activities in the lin12. Through
point of entrancewas established. The casefor this is located around the rhetorical
ways of being.
Finally, Mr. F's secondary investigation of political punk in the taped music
people at the linl2, whose atmospherehe felt 'supportive',he occasionally found the
relatively advancedages of his peers and the 'cliquey' atmosphereof the club off-
putting. The problem here with the subcultural community of outsiders is that the
the existing experienceand the full participation of the members there made for a
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established,vernaculardaily normsandpracticescan act as a barrier to the newcomer.
Mr. H noted this above. From my participant observation at the linl2, there is a
period on entering the club when one feels initially excluded. This feeling dissipates
once familiarity and involvementoccur. However, this was in the negative for F: the
of being out of step with the advancedage of his peers and the perceived 'cliquey'
move to Leeds after his University degreehad finished. Here is a keen example of
how a personmay leave the lin12 club scene,an issueI will deal with in much more
Not only does it show how the 1 in12 club is entered;it simultaneouslyshows how
group affinity chiefly identified with a specific sceneinterest in the punk subculture.
is
and not an authenticgenre/sceneof punk rock. In particular, I have shown how the
investigation and adoption of the anarcho punk genre led to a number of the
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Conclusion
Overall I have identified the initial pattern and central theme of entranceto the punk
peer identification, interaction and reciprocal support in order allow the participant to
strive towards full, authenticparticipationin the punk scene. All the intervieweeslaid
recognized by their peers. What though has not been discussedin the above is the
influenced by. In tandemwith a number of the participants of this study the ethical
bedrock of punk has evolved and matured with the members of the subculture,
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Chapter Four: Punk Ethics
Introduction
The purposeof this chapteris to set out a relatively coherentethics of DiY punk rock
difficulty. Trying to show how an overall ethical corpusinforms DiY punk rock may
ethics, in a given milieu or scene, needs to begin with both the similarities and
relate to and yet remain distinct from eachother? Here it should be rememberedthat
recognition of this analytical point was built into the methodological choice of
In the presentcontext, this choice allows the presentationof ethical values without an
ironic or realist subscriptionto a 'core' punk morality and ethos. This is the trap I
in
outlined chapterone, that a numberof biographicalworks on punk rock have fallen
into in advancingtheir own versionsof punk as gospel and, in support of their own
denigrating
ethical credentials, othersas inauthentic.
Authenticity has a shadowy presencein the background of this chapter, but will
into and out of punk. It is the key issue, indeed even the key theme, especially of
my central focus throughout the thesis. This focus has been chosen for two major
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reasons. Firstly, whilst it could be seenas the selective advancementof a specific
intensifying what can be called the early 'punk spirit' in its active conjunction of
are sometimes set off against each other as if they present radically opposed
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alternatives. The term counterculture may be applied to punk as a political
change, placing itself in direct conflict with parent cultures and hegemonic values,
ethics and norms. When usedexclusivelyin this way, the term can easily becomeset
up against that of subculture. This is certainly the case when subcultures are
advanced as being chiefly concerned with aspects of style and identity whilst
Further, there is at times an uneasy 'fit' between the chosen activity and the term
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rest upon the acceptance of one or more of a number of competing claims with regard
wholes, complete with their own cohesive internal dynamics. This was a falsely
syncretic gloss on what was alwaysa far messierreality. In addition, the relationship
solutions together with their own internal dynamics of norms and rules. It is worth
senseof exclusion from mainstreamnorms and values can lead to people gravitating
toward one another and jointly establishingalternative norms, values and criteria of
ethics. They are not identical acrossdifferent DiY scenesand do not remain invariant
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over time. The extent of the difficulty here can be gaugedby the affirmation afforded
to the illusion of uniformity and cohesionby the rhetorical claim of some individuals
and groups that, unlike thosewith whom they are unfavourably compared,their own
ethical practiceis closer in spirit to what was 'originally' set out in punk's moment of
and acceptedwithin the group while still being able to causeoffence to 'straight' or
and that 'the acquisition of statuswithin the new group is accompaniedby a loss of
restrictive in terms of its scope and takes little account of how youth subcultures
model able to accountfor the divisions and difficulties that occur within a particular
formations (scenes)at the same time as sharing similarities with their subcultural
predecessors. The model deals with wider divisions but not with those that occur
within a group.
in terms of mapping out an ethics of punk rock. Yet when we turn to later
culture. For example, work on the sociology of deviance and later some of the
of all thesedistinctions; I shall confine the discussionhere to three key texts in order
to illustrate the argument. These are, in the order of their presentation,Stan Cohen
study of mods and rockers, particularly through the attention he gives to the role of
the media in amplifying divisions through their ideological focus on the social
account of such groupings. He adroitly avoids mention of the internal divisions and
subcultures. Cohen is chiefly concerned with media reaction and the negative
certain deviant groups and how, once the person is thus type cast, his acts are
interpretedin terms of the statusto which he has been assigned' (1980:12). As well
Cohen's thesis arguesthe reverse of this: that the subculturalreaction to its deviance
explanatoryterms for punk's earlier exploits, such as the Sex Pistols 'controversial'
of how an ethics of punk shouldbe mapped. At least in the caseof punk, but arguably
have any single or absolute lodestoneto which they are oriented. Members of
subculturesdo not navigate through the vicissitudes of everyday life with a fixed
moral compass.
artistic divisions within the subcultureof the jazz musician. To develop the outline
'hip' jazz musician and his 'square' counterpart,the musician who places personal
Cliques made up of jazzmen offer their members nothing but the prestige of
maintaining artistic integrity; commercial cliques offer security, mobility,
income and generalsocial prestige(Becker, 1963:110).
This conflict is a major problem in the career of the jazz musician, and the
within the wider subcultureto their conduct. Thesemay be affirmative or give rise to
ethical norms and values within the subculture. In many respectsBecker's work
difference arise within scenesas well as between subcultures. These give rise to
dilemmas that are often defined aroundrhetorical claims as to who are authentic and
inauthenticmembersof a subculture.28
youth subculturesin his own analysis, but this leads to a distorted perspective.For
prevail over the ethics of conduct. Divisions and antagonismswithin and between
Hebdige's is that they driven principally by their authors' own intellectual interests.
29Sarah Thornton (1995) has also made this distinction between the hip and the
square during her
ethnographicexaminationof the undergroundLondon rave cultures of the early 1990s.
stem from a failure to groundthem at all adequatelyin the views, valuesand voices of
subcultural scenessay and do as membersof the subculture. What they say and do is
discussedalong the lines of style (Hebdige, 1979). One of the few advancesbeyond
this impasse has been made by McKay (1996) in his discussion of the internal
the Conservativegovernment's Criminal Justice and Public Order Act of the same
year. Here explicit mention is made of the divisions betweenthose protestors who
helps pave the way towards a clearer understandingof the ethical positions and
how such divisions are actually constitutive of the ethical positions within the DiY
In this chapterI shall outline the major componentsof punk ethics and explore in
doing so I shall pay attentionto both divisions within and betweensubcultural scenes,
though in developingthis focus I do not meanto rule out the question of international
punk or presentthe only authenticpunk way to proceed. There is no such model, and
no one, true, absoluteway. The existenceof divisions and dualisms attest to this.
Punk generatesa conflictual, reflexive and relatively internal dynamic with regard to
presentsits political stances. Through its intersectionof music and political practice,
competing claims specific to the identity and values of any particular subcultural
variant. It is on the basis of theseclaims that we can map out the main tenets and
I
The three main areas of consideration on which I focus in order to sketch the
ethical standpointof punk are chosenfor their direct and specific relevanceto both the
ethnographic subjects and the subcultural practices observed in the field in 2001.
They are the initial inception of punk in the 1970s,the anarcho,punk legacy and the
in 1976: 'This is a chord, here's another! Now form a band!' (Savage, 1991: 281).
This was an expressionof a generalcultural sensibility that was in keeping with the
youth in the late 1970s. Gray (2001) neatly articulatesthe early punk spirit of DiY: 'if
you're bored, do somethingabout it; if you don't like the way things are done, act to
changethem, be creative, be positive, anyone can do it' (2001: 153). At that time
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therewas a significant gapbetweenpop music aestheticsand the everydayexperience
DiY ethic of the British counterculture. Influences from this period fed into punk
(McKay, 1988:1-53). In ethical terms it has since been manifestedin terms of being
and remaining authentic. The ethical imperativeof authenticity has directly informed
Once establishedin the vernacularof punk culture, those who sell out, ignore,
transgressor just step over the mark are met with the moral discipline of those
deemed (by themselves and/or others) as authentic members of the scene. Joe
Strummereven went-so far as to refer to the punks in generalas 'being infected with
the kind of Orwellian revisionism and doublethink that was guaranteedto deny
personalfreedom' (Gray, 2001). Gray alsocites Tony Parsonsas viewing punks' new
ethics as 'StaliniSt,29in its but this glossesover the internal divisions which
approach
basedaround either support for or refutation of such bandsas The Clash (2001: 163).
punk DiY ethic. The Sex Pistols and The Clashare perhapsthe most obvious, though
similar sell-outs and trade-offs were met with equal subcultural venom in the
After the initial outrageand banning of punk, the UK record industry signed up
large numbers of punk bands in order to stave off the general recession which had
resulted in the decline of record sales in the late 1970s (Laing, 1985). This
incorporation by the industry was viewed by the Epping punk band Crass as utter
travesty -a complete 'sell-out'. The term 'sell-out' here refers not only to seduction
29TonyParson'sin Gray(2001:163).See,Westway
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punk principles and values,or what, rather less kindly, we might call an essentialist
senseof punk propriety. This was the first significant example of a punk critique of
Within six months the movementhad beenbought out. The capitalist counter-
revolutionarieshad killed it with cash. Punk degeneratedfrom being a force for
change,to becomingjust anotherelementin the grand media circus. Sold out,
sanitized and strangled,punk had becomejust another commodity, a burnt-out
memory of how it might havebeen(1998:74).
This blanket ethical censuregave rise to the offshoot anarchopunk scene with its
ways responsiblefor first voicing the concernsthat punk had becomewatered down
and politically inert. For Crassthe core ethic of DiY had beenovertakenby executive
managers,records deals,contractsand money and the result was that the subversive,
rebellious and political edge of punk had been eclipsed. Such sentiments were
articulated in their first twelve inch record, The Feeding of the Five Thousandon the
Yes that's right punk is dead,it's just anothercheapproduct for the consumers
head. Bubblegum.rock on plastic transistors,schoolboy sedition backedby big
time promoters. CBS promote the Clash but it ain't for revolution it's just for
cash. Punk becamea fashionjust like hippy usedto be it ain't got a thing to do
with you or me. Movements are systemsand systemskill. Movements are
expressionsof public will. Punk becamea movement 'causewe all felt lost, but
the leaderssold out now we all pay the cost. (Crass,1978)
The angerin this quoteat the 'leaders' (Rotten, Strummer)in their 'selling out' of
punk rock standsas testimonyto the social movementthat aroseout of Crassand the
therewas 'no future,' we saw it as a challengeto our creativity - we knew there was a
and legacy of this political and musical turn on my fieldwork interviewees has been
very substantial. Under the threat of the Cold War and the economic and social
an accessible and authentic conduit for the anger, protest potential and political
sell-out punk and organized political movements. Crass arose out of Rimbauds'
After falling foul of censorson their 'Reality Asylum' track on the Small Wonder
pressing of their first LP The Feeding of the Five Thousand, they began their own
contracts were shunned, and complete creative control of the uniform artwork was
retained by the Crass label. Bands had records released at an affordable price (the
$pay no more than' sticker becoming operative here), thus ensuring access and
showing sympathy with the low incomes many of audience members were
experiencing at the time though unemployment and economic recession. The band
themselves lived on a meagre income derived from record sales and only gave
interviews to DiY fanzines and played only benefit shows. Under its own momentum,
the band quickly established themselves as both Situationist jokers - through a series
as the ironic ethical figureheads of the early anarcho punk scene. They found
themselves able to release records and compilation albums of other bands with a
30 While the political actions and music releasesof Crass are too
political edge .
30The actions activities of the band Crass and their now huge legacy is too detailed and wide
and
ranging for the scope of this research. See: Crass Best Before 1984 sleeve notes (Crass Records
1985);McKay (1996); Rimbaud(1998).
has acted as a blueprint for the operationof subsequentDiY scenes:in this casethe
the numberof political punk bandsthat emergedin the late 1970sand early 1980s.
The first anarcho punk compilation that demonstratedthe spread of anarcho punk
ethics was the 1980 Crass Records compilation, Bullshit Detector. This featured
twenty-five MY bands from aroundthe UK, and retailed at fl. 35. What this album
achieved was the consolidation of the early underground band network, not least
through such practical devicesas the publication of contact addressesfor the bands.
The second Bullshit album, releasedin 1982 and retailing at E2.75, contained 38
bandsmostly from the UK. The spirit of MY was clearly presentin the sleevenotes
Ile tracks on this album expressthe real punk spirit of protest, independence,
originality and refusal to compromise,even if some of them do not conform to
the media idea of what punk 'should be'. Punk is about 'doing it yourself and
Bullshit is a compilation of bandsand individuals who have done exactly that - it
isn't going to get anyoneon Top of the Pops,but, becauseit showsthat there are
people who want more out of life than personalgain it offers HOPE that there's
something the parasitic punks and media parasiteswill never give us (Bullshit
Detector Two sleevenotes).
There are two observationsI want to make here. Firstly, the ethical rhetorical
position of anarcho punk becomesblatantly explicit in the phrase the 'real punk
spirit', while the 'originality' and 'authenticity' of DiY anarcho punk resistanceis
registeredas an alternative to the presenceof 'media punks': those out for personal
gain and fame, those deemedto have become the very things punk came along to
in order to provide a benchmark for where the anarcho punk alternative should
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establishits initial foothold: not to aspire to the mainstreamof Top of The Pops, but
hope, trust and solidarity. In broad terms the ethical position is couchedin clear and
definite boundariesof 'them' and 'us'. If one wishesto remain authenticthen such an
initially rebelled against. Yet, as I shall show later in much more detail, the adoption
Secondly, by the early 1980s, the examples of Crass had clearly established
themselvesin a strong anarchopunk sub-genrein the UK with its roots firmly set in a
rigid and uncompromisingreading of the core ethics of DiY punk. The 'anyone can
do it' ethos led to inspired 'spin off projects that both cementedpolitical links and
bands known as The Animals Packet, a tape released in 1983 of bands making
The first thing we did was do a compilation tape which was like mail order
which was called 7heAnimals Packet. We did a tape of our songsand then we
did other bands like the Passion Killers, we did everything, we wrote and
recorded all our own songs. We did the artwork, we put the label on the
cassettesand sent them out to people. And from that I meanthe time was about
eighty three we were in touch (with other bands] partly though Crass'sBullshit
Detector 2 which we had a track on and the PassionKillers had a track on. We
wrote to everybody asking if they wanted to be on the Animals Packet and that
brought us in touch with the whole scenearound the country which we weren't
really awareof or weren't part of. And from that we went to Crass'ssquatgig in
London and that inspired us to go on in Leeds and we got invited to play other
ones around the country. And for three or four years we were part of this
anarchopunk underground.
Stemmingfrom the inspiration of the Bullshit albums,the above quotation clearly
It illustrates how new projects were inspired and developed around political issues
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and DiY ethical principles with the aboveinclusion of animal rights as a new ethical
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site of resistance. These recordsstand as a more than adequatedocument of the
between 1980-84. In total 103 bands and individual performers were included on
Anarcho punk held sway with Crass and Conflict at the helm until 1984 in the
bands such as The Snipers, Dirt, Sleeping Dogs, Zounds, Anthrax, Omega Tribe,
Cravats, KUKL, Anthrax and MDC. The latter Texan band, MDC, alongside their
predecessorsfrom San Francisco, The Dead Kennedys, made one of the first
the main anarchopunk bandssuchas PoisonGirls, Flux of Pink Indians, the Amebix,
form labels of their own such as Mortahate, Spiderleg, Corpus Christi, and Outer
Himalayan records. Thesewere usedas the main labels supportingthe large number
of anarcho punk bands not on the Crass label. Anarcho punk was not the only
subgenreto continue and extend punk culture into the 1980s. Many of the original
31First raised as an anarchopunk issue on the Stations of The Crass record with track 'Time Out'
where comparisonsare madeto humanand animal flesh. Animal rights becamea central ethical theme
over the next decade. Around the time of the Animals Packet there were numerousanarchorecords
voicing animal rights issuessuch as the promotion of vegetarianism,anti hunting and anti vivisection
themes. See for example Flux of Pink Indians (1981) Neu Smell ep and the track 'Sick Butchers'.
Conflict (1982) It's Time Too See Who's Who, (1983) To a Nation ofAnimal Lovers; Amebix,(1983)
No Sanctuary ep. Subhumans,(1983) Evolution ep; Antisect (1983) In Darkness, There Is No Choke,
in particular the track 'Tortured and Abused'.
of Oi combined the earlier working class skinhead fashion and politics of the late
Four Skins, Sham 69 and The CockneyRejectsstandas examplesof this and also as
peaceful harmony. There were numerous clashes between the various scenes.
Divisions betweenthem are emblematicof the conflicts over what constitutesthe real,
basic and durablepunk ethic. This period threw up examplesof violent conflicts, most
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notably between punks and skinheads and street-punks against anarcho punkS.
Throughout the 1980smany shows were maffed by violence, conflict and fighting
A load of skins came one time when the Subhumansplayed in eighty three in
Durham and erm,just randomly beat the fuck out of the peacepunks. As peace
punks we weren't very united. It was quite a new sceneand we were all a bit
dippy you know we didn't really know how to cope. The copsbustedthe wrong
peopleand all this shit happened.
The rightwing, and often racist, perspective of the skinheads was in vehement
opposition to the anarcho (or peace) punks of this period. Rightwing forces and
Broader political factors were of course also highly formative. The political
menaceof the cold war and the threat of nuclear annihilation were constant,almost
formation of punk ethics. Rather than examinethe complexities regarding the cold
experiencing during the 1970s, 80s and early 90s, I want to suggest that the
subcultural reactions to such macro factors had a timely and relative effect on the
given subgenreof punks' ethical conduct. This would have been most acute in terms
anti-war songs. The most notable example was the 1980 Big A Little AINagasaki
Nightmare single featuring detailed sleevenotes on cold war issuesand the threat of
nuclear catastrophe. As the above quote shows, anarcho punk became known as
bandsand their followers. Mr. K noted that there was a senseduring this period that
the world was at risk from nuclearweaponsof massdestructionand the only solution
There was a real sense that things were fucked up back then. You know people
actually thought the world was going to get blown to fuck. I mean we can all
laugh at it now, but people actually believed it. I believed it. I was going on
CND raflies, I was in CND and we believed that these people had all this power
taking all our fucking money off us and our parents to build these fucking
weapons, putting us all at risk. It was something I didn't fucking believe in.
What were they putting us at risk for?
Crass and the bands that were released through their label voiced similar
Does it Feel to be the Mother of a ThousandDead and YesSir, I Will. During 1984
the miners' strike and the heavy tactics of Tbatcherite policing provided visible
targets for the new punk counterculturesceneto protest against. The main events
movement were the Stop the City actions of 1983 and 1984. Rimbaud describes
them:
Half riot, half carnival, they attractedthousandsof peoplewho in their own ways
protestedagainstthe machineryof wealth and the oppressionthat it represented.
Windows were smashedwhile groups danced in the streets to the sounds of
flutes and drums. Buildings were smoke bombed while jugglers and clowns
frolicked amongstthe jostling crowd. Peoplelinked arms and blockaded access
roadsand bridges,while othersstagedspontaneoussit-ins on the stepsof offices
and bands. City workers were handed leaflets and told to take the day off,
phoneswere put out of action, locks were superglued, wall were graffitied and
statuesadornedwith anarchistflags (1998: 255-6).
Mr. S attendeda Stop the City action during this period and found that they acted
as an ethical meeting ground for people. An arenafor protest that was outside of the
common ethical lines of concern. The Stop the City actions were just one of many
addition to the picket support of the miners' strike of 1984/5, were all political
that had its scene roots in anti-commercialist autonomy, social protest and
Oi. Here the presentationof anarcho punk music as a vehicle of authentic punk
pointed out, this was not without a senseof ethical irony in that it left the non-anarcho
Church:
The "Punk Scene"is just a big farce.Gigs are pretty much a total wasteof time. It's not
even as they to
serve createa warm and creative atmosphere. All that is created is an
atmosphereof indifference and isolation. The average"punk" still wasteshis or her time
indulging in the sameold macho, sexist crap. It's just boys and girls out for the night
"getting pissed".
There's nothing I find more tediousthan the rows of identical painted leatherjackets -
how moronic. Nothing changesat a gig. it is still just the sameold world where men are
big and tough and women are just their "birds", with the sickening habit of plastering
themselveswith make-upbecausethey want to look nice and pretty for the boys.
No doubt by now, if you've botheredto read this, you'll be nodding your head in
agreementas if it's someoneelsethat I'm talking about - well it isn't, it's you. You are
a part of all this shit. Why don't you try using your brain and help yourself for once,not
just a prat masqueradingas a stereotype(RudimentaryPeni 1983Death Church, Sleeve-
notes).
Here the boundaries between street punk and anarcho punk scenes are clearly and
34
peacockpunks incapableof authentic,real rebellion . In ethical terms the traditional
punk show from this band's point of view has collapsedinto 'the sameold world' of
34
seeappendix8, section4
inauthentic punks are drawn out and reinforced. The rhetorical position adopted is
that you can only becomeauthentic if you accedeto and confirm the thinking of
resisted. They are resistedin the nameof the DiY ethic that is centralto anarchopunk
practice. It is to
germane suchpractice that it a
generates sceptical,if not downright
for the sakeof profit, and the capitalist productionof military hardwarefor the sakeof
profit. Making money out of punk rock was anathemato the anarchistpunk scene.
Making money out of deathand suffering was equally a sourceof political ire.
Anarcho punk made music central to the disseminationof its moral and political
critique. The central aim was to make this as accessible as possible. Such
accessibility is itself based on ethical principle. For this reason participants have
always tried to make all their productsand concertseither free or as cheapas possible.
The majority of anarcho punk gigs in the. early 1980s were benefits for political
period. This enabledthem to participate fully in punk music and punk politics. One
of the most striking critical statementscame from the band Conflict on the 1984 The
hails the band in the light of this ideal. The underlying ethical messageis that MY
in league with the 'business' man; they are the peddlersof 'fake resistance'. They
dilute the core ethics of the punk scene as they claim them to be (resistance,
Once again we should resist the representationof punk in ethical terms as a unified
bloc, void of internal disputes and differences. We can pursue punk's historical
itself a time limit: 1984. Indeed all of the Crass record releases,apart from being
accompaniedby a 'pay no more than' price tag, had a catalogue number counting
down to 1984. As promisedby Crass,the band split up during this year, playing their
last show as a benefit for striking miners on 6th July. What the anarchopunk genre
that somekind of real social changewould be the logical outcomeof its various scene
efforts. The aim was that the structures of power would feel, and indeed be
The Orwellian prophecy, with its famous dystopian date, provided the senseof
this time. The demonstrationsand benefit concertswere a central part of the anarcho
punk struggle. Both Crassand Conflict beganto push the direct action line, though
are not pacifists and have never claimed to be, we believe and strive for peaceand
freedom but wfll'not let people destroy what little have. 35 Crass made similar
we
statementson their last single You're Already Dead and made token concessions
towards Conflict's position while undermining the solidarity of the band's position.
Mr. K noted how he had once believed in Conflict's direct action approachto social
35See Conflict Increase the Pressure (1984) Mortahate Records for a succinct, sincere and angry
lyrical accountof the cold war, animal exploiters,political apathyand the escalationof the armsrace.
Mr. R also notesthat a lot of punkstook both Crassand Conflict at their word:
People took them on and I wasjust that bit older and Crass were the ones that
did it right. I think punks, anarchoor otherwise, were looking for a bit of a
leader, they wanted somethingto follow and so Conflict filled that gap quite
nicely I think. And then the backlashagainstthem was the whole samething.
It's like build up, smashdown. The thing is this thing goes on through society
and that we, as anarchopunksshouldknow a bit better really.
After splitting up in 1984, Crassleft the legacy of anarchopunk open to Conflict
and this in
resulted a backlash against them that occurred mainly during the later
1980s. Shortly after the event, Penny Rimbaud ruminated on the ethical minefield
[During Ihefirst couple ofyears of Crass's existence]for all the chaos it was
immensefun, no one bitched about leatherboots or moanedabout milk in tea, no
one wanted to know how anarchyand peacecould be reconciled, no one bored
our arses of with protracted monologueson Bakunin, who at that time we
probably would have thought was a brand of vodka (Rimbaud, Best Before 1984
sleevenotes,italics mine).
What this quotation demonstratesis one of the long-standinglegaciesof divisions
make much more of this in subsequentchapters, so suffice to say here that this
is
statement one of the first of
acknowledgements intra-group subcultural tensions
songs,Acts of Love and TenNotes on a SummersDay, that seemedto push them out
of favour with fans of the musical anger they had produced in their previous work.
theme. Indeed, though the subject of a huge amount of criticism (including some
the last two generations of punks, Conflict remain active, still playing benefit
Alternative Media
One of the most popular meansof musical reproduction,alongsidevinyl, was the tape
tapes were central to undergroundDiY punk during the early 1980sand through the
postal system,bands,ideasand lyrics were mutually traded and shared. They were
traded betweenfriends and were (and still are) a useful tool for making contact with
people, establishingacquaintances
and developingalliances. The fanzines sold at gigs
contained reviews of tapes and records, and carried adverts and addressesfor band
4nimals Packet. Mr. R reproducedhis bands demo tapes for mail order in a similar
,
fashion. He recalledthat one of the earliestexamplesof record distribution stalls was
tape- not vinyl-based. When he played a Leeds squat gig in a garage in 1984 with
The Ex, The Three Johnsand the Instigators,tapeswere sold at the back of the venue.
intendedto cover the costsof production only. The main form of income for most of
the participantsduring this period was unemploymentand housing benefit. Mr. R told
projects:
They usedto give you money for bedding grants and shit and I put that with my
giro and I spentnearly a hundred quid on what now would be a crappy double
tape. So I would copy my band's demo tapeson it day and night. And from that
my bandhad a demo[tapeout].
36 1
will examinethis issuein closer detail in chapter5.
anarcho,punk scene. This led to them playing more gigs and this in turn eventuatedin
that the practice of DiY suffereda similar demise. The end of Crasswas certainly a
blow to DiY culture, but a centralargumentof this thesis is that DiY ethics have been
continuous over the past quarter century or so, even through that continuity has
of Crass should not be read as the end of DiY countercultural ethics and values,
despite views and intimations to the contrary from McKay (1996) and others. The
hardcore. Its subsequentassimilation led to new forms and took on the original
in
anarchopunk genre musical, aestheticand political terms.
Bands such as Dirt, Doom, Deviated Instinct, Extreme Noise Terror, Electro
Hippies, Extinction of Mankind, Hiatus, Health Hazard, Suffer and One By One are
anarchopunk.37 They all played the lin12 Club with some relocating and becoming
centrally involved in the organizationof music and general club activities. It could
punk music even intensified as a result of the diminution of political changeand the
continuing political drift to the right. For Mr. R, the music of anarcho punk was
characterisedparticularly by its ethically fuelled anger. The fast, furious and hectic
screamingthat were central to fastcore, britcore of the mid to late nineteen eighties
k
37For detailed accountsof the continuity of UK anarchopunk during this period and beyond see the
UK scenereports in MaximumRock W'RoII fanzine 1984-present.
R noted that this style of music was a clear expressionof the frustration at anarcho
punk's lack of political and cultural achievement. The ethical principles of MY were
sound but nothing seemedto have changed:'As you go on you just get more manic
and more fucking furious and you get angrier as you get older, you know and that's
shit! '
around the mid-to-latel980s, this did not mean that its informing ethos had expired.
Quite the contrary. Its ethos spread, either through anarcho punk music or in
during the latter part of the 1980sand early 1990s,all over the continent and the US.
A notable illustration of the spreadof anarchopunk was the Minneapolis label and
fanzine,Profane Existence.
the fore in the US. The two genressharea numberof similarities and also bring to the
fore the irresolvable argumentof punks' origins: UK or US? In spite of this, with the
Reagan,the politics and methodson both sidesof the Atlantic had a numberof mutual
between
convergence the DC hardcorepunk sceneand UK anarchopunk (2001: 131,
146). For example, how Crass had managedto galvanise thousandsto gather in
London for the 'Stop the City' protestsof the early eighties was taken as a benchmark
to
measure political statements,while UK anarcho punk was largely concernedwith
instrumental, political critiques againstthe cold war, the capitalist state and animal
hardcore was also characterizedby a faster tempo and a more energetic stage
presence. Apart from the early visits to the UK by the Dead Kennedysand then Black
Flag, hardcorewas a relatively obscuregenrein the UK in the early eighties. After its
introduction mostly though record and tape trading and the fleeting band appearances
in the UK, the DiY ethic began to co-opt numerous genresinto its aesthetic style.
These included metal, hardcore,and thrash. This also had a reciprocal effect on the
One of the first hardeoreimports into anarchopunk was MDC who played fast
aestheticlink to many of the anarchopunk bands. For many involved in the British
anarcho scene and the wider genresof punk in the 1980s and 1990s, such records
introduced a whole new genreand style of music that had been eclipsedthrough the
dominance and style of British punk from 1976 onwards. Hardcore has become
firmly cementedinto the culture sincethe early 1980s. However, as Rollins (1995:26-
35) notes,the acceptanceof the American genre was not easy. Initially British punks
were vehemently hostile to the American hardcore band, Black Flag, when they
toured the UK in 1980,1982and 1984,covering them in spit, bottles and verbal abuse.
noted that American hardcorewas beginning to circulate via peer tape circulation
around 1983:
A lot of anarchopunksweren't really into this. I had like a few friends that had
like weird tapesof stuff like DRI and Minor Threat and theseweird new bands.
I was one of the first peopleto get into DRI and it was absolutely,it was as life-
changingasanything in termsof it being fast and political.
As I noted above, Crucifix toured England in 1984 with British anarcho bands
This was like 1984,so it was like Antisect, Dirt and Crucifix. Antisect and Dirt
were pretty good of coursebut Crucifix, they moved, they ran around and they
brought it to life in a lot of ways and it showedus British people [how it could be
done].
Whilst not yet being the mainstayof the British punk sceneduring this period, the
Mr. B and D mentioneda key issuethat emergedin the mid 1980s. As a result of
unimportant and secondaryby these two subjects. Indeed, when asked about the
political influence of music, Mr. D noted that 'it's not affected me a great deal
I
politically and am not really motivated by that sort of stuff, but you know it has in I
the personal politics that Mr. D later became involved in, particularly the 'straight
he reacted against the overt politics of this period and was instead concernedwith
personalissues:
The stuff I was into when I first got into hardcorewas heavily political. I mean
the British bands [were concerned] with animal rights and politics in general.
The US at the time, especiallythe New York bandsand the straight edge bands,
the political is not the exclusive preserveof 'politics in general'. But if there was
something of a shift here is could be said to involve a move from concern with
While this distinction shouldnot be pushedtoo far, given the overlap and interlinkage
mainstreampunk. For B the latter, more social form of politics created a senseof
separationfrom the majority of the punk scene. He noted that he gained a senseof
motivation and confidencein his feelingsof differenceto the majority of the UK punk
and hardeorescenes.
punk music have been legion. Betweenthe Leedsand Bradford DiY communities, a
generalform of opposition and rivalry exists betweenpunk and hardcore. Mr. G was
in
specific picking up on this issue. In spite of various genre claims and counter-
I think that punk is possibly a bit more rowdy than hardcore. The mindset is a
lot more self-destructive:it is not as positive [as hardcore]. It's all about fucking
shit up. I'm not bitching about punk becauseit's all the same thing when it
comesdown to it, but I think a lot of the punks I have met have this kind of fuck
you mentality!
Hardcore appeals to G for the musical diversity it is able to accommodate,
whereasin his view punk is more 'samey' and 'set' in its musical ways. He notes:
I think the punk sceneis traditional. If you look at hardcorethere's all the emo
[and] metal bands,there's all the crazy fucked up shit. I meanif you look at the
hardcoresceneyou could pick five bands that are all under the hardcore label
Cfast, fast'Pslow as fuck'), and the throwaway final sentence. Both this and the
mutate and move on, as a result of their internal dynamics of interaction and the
groupings of is
what nominally the same subculture.
a seriesof 'building blocks, he statedthat he didn't really know about DiY during
these earlier biographical stages. The connectionswith anarchism and DiY were
made later, though his initial immersion in the punk rock scene has contributed
The way I have done things in my life, you know, some of the paths, shall we
say, that I have followed, have been linked directly to the beginning of
skateboardingand punk.
The firm connectionswere madefor C around 1986, firstly after he had bought a
personally influential MY punk record, the Bristol band Ripcord's album Defiance of
into a much wider awarenessof and involvement in politics that helped him to
political theme in the interview data relating to this period of time. It openedup a
further ethical division within punk subculture and drew on further rhetorical
descriptorsto justify the division and bolster participants' adherenceto one side or the
other. For Mr. Q, one of the downsidesof this division was the production of what he
called a 'holier than thou' attitude. In similarity to the Takunin bores' outlined by
a laugh.
' Mr. C also referred to this rift between vegans and veggies. While he
generated:
I'd say I'm fairly lenient, but you know at times there has been a vegan police
elementwhich I've remembered. I remember from the days doing hunt sabbing
that people would be like fucking going into people's kitchens and looking in
people's cupboardsand going "what the fuck is this in your cupboard?" That is
just ridiculous like.
vegetarianism,combined with the pressureto convert from the latter to the former,
was in itself a major political issue of the late 1980s. Within the punk scene
generally, the ethics of food, hunting and related mattersbecamea symbolic site for
the politics of cultural elitism. Thesewere manifest, contestedand fought over within
the sceneas part of its own ongoing debateover what constitutesthe true principles
punk and its subgenreof Britcore mergedwith residuesof the travelling communities
drank too much, consciously ignored personal hygiene, and begged outside of
during this time. Straightedgeoriginatedon the eastcoastof America in the late 1970s
and early 80s. The major sites of straight edge activity are the east coast cities of
Washington DC, New York and Boston. Later, the west coast (1984-5), then,
The key question that arises is why has straightedgedeveloped? There are a
UK, Europeanand American attitudes to punk as givens (DIY ethics, alienation and
autonomy), early straightedgeused these sub-cultural forms to take the punk idea to
functions as an obstacle in the path of having a clear, critical and positive mind.
back on the destructive elementsof consumption (drugs alcohol, tobacco etc.), and
rejecting the peer pressure that enforces and reproduces nihilism, oppressive,
straightedge line.
culture, usually by those participants in the punk and hardcore sceneswho were
started to become the thing that it once opposed. In the more conventional
In a recentinterview he commented:
I think the straight edgething appealsto a lot of jocks which is weird becauseI
am not a jock. I was never down with that kind of stuff. It's weird; I don't know
what the fuck I am. I am really not sure where I fit because I'm not a computer
geek,not ajock, just sort of a normal guy.
Peopleover the years were so hardcore,fucking jump doVMmy throat because
they feel I'm not vocal enough or hard enough. I had guys saying, "I can't
believe you fucking play places that sell alcohol," or, "I can't believe that you
play places where people smoke cigarettes." I had this one kid say to me, "I
can't believe you're drinking iced tea." I was like "What?" and he said, "In my
book, caffeine is a drug." I said "fuck you." Thesekind of people were so hard
and so ready to attack me because they didn't think I was hard enough- where
the fuck are they now? I'm not trying to be so smug about it. But I am 33 now,
and I don't give a fuck aboutall the rumours (Mackaye in Lahickey, 1996:108).
Under the influence of hardcoreMr. B noteshow he felt good in the late 1980sto be
kind of 'brotherhood' in being straight and looking down his nose at crusties. He
stated:
It was a nice little clique to be in and there were not that many straightedgekids
about so you had that feeling of brotherhood. It was sort of like the Leeds
mentality as well, I mean going to shows and standingthere looking down at
confidencethrough realizing that he didn't have to conforin, that 'he didn't haveto be
a regular dickV
At the other end of the spectrum,Mr. K statedthat there was a lot of trouble with
straightedgein the late eighties. Hostilities within the wider Bradford scenebetween
I had a few problems with some of the individuals who were involved with
[straight edge]. There was a lot of hostility betweenthe two groups. I was like I
don't care about your fucking sceneand they arejust trying to wind us up, those
straightedgepeople. Like the punk scenewas pretty [nihilistic] and fair enough
they were just tying to wind peopleup basically and causeshit and they never
backedit up. Tley were just full of shit basically. [One of them] startedat me
once in a pub and I threatenedto batterhim with a pool cue.
The hardcore and punk scenes have always constituted and reconstituted
lead to physically threatening behaviour, as the above example shows, the process
correctness. What are the real and proper forms of resistanceto the capitalist social
order? For straightedge,a clear, sober, alert and positive mind was set against the
of dissentand nonconformism.
'rebellion against rebellion' (Lahickey, 1996) congealed further and became more
adoptedfrom the New York band, Vegan Reich. Those who smokedor got drunk at
the one hand, and direct action against transgressorson the other. Together these
In many ways the challengingof capitalist values and beliefs was in tandemwith
the politics of anarcho and crusty punk and the lin12 club. Scenedisagreements
with contempt, Mr. B referred to crusty punks as often 'begging outside shows and
dressedin shitstainedrags'. B's vituperative tone caps his portrayal of crusty punks
trouble in assimilating this new form of politics and resistance. A good deal of the
It never pissed me off but I kind of thought it was a bit fucking hypocritical
coming from people who ran a place based upon a policy that was kind of
acceptingof anything apart from stuff that'was downright offensive or fascist or
whatever. Tlere seemedto be a lot of hypocritical people involved in it [I in 12]
at the time. There always seemedlike there was people that had somethingto
say whereas I went there and never judged anyone on fucking anything.
[straightedge]seemedlike somethingnew for England you know kind of young
outsiderscoming in that weren't involved in the old British punk scene. People
came in [to the club] to causetrouble and go what the fuck is this sort of thing.
People would be at shows fucking shouting their fucking heads off or some
fucking nonsenseto do with the [straightedge] bands playing and people just
didn't seemto get it. The punk scenewas err that way inclined [drinking] and
then suddenly people came in [linl2] with all these straightedge gigs that
weren't into that at all.
Gordon PhD
The antagonismgradually died down as the straightedgegigs and hardcorebands
noted previously, Mr. K had problems with the straightedge,but he soon became
There was this divide as well; you know we were all scumbags.[A straightedger]
usedto write things like 'freaks' on the club and that used to really piss Joe off.
[However] a lot of the punk kids were up their own arseas well, they are hostile
to it [straightedge]. We had all these fucking gumby punks carping on about
straight edge.I said: "what the fuck are you saying?Shut the fuck up! What do
you know? What do you fucking do? You know, you do nothing!"'
This proved to be a contentious issue based around affiliation to different
hardcore, which seeks to extend personal politics into a broader struggle for
progressivepolitical change,and the politics of nihilistic punk rock with its approach
In addition to this the straightedgeissue had not entirely faded from memory.
Four of the interviewees mentioned this event and stated that it raised concerns
regardingthe politics of someof the bandsthat played the club. In the recollection of
Ms. W:
Somestraightedgeband played the club and they had somereally dubious lyrics
about abortion. I think they were really naYveyoung men. I think they were
about sixteenor seventeenand they had not really formed their opinions or they
had not encounteredmany women. They wrote somethingcontroversial on the
wall and I rememberfeeling pissedoff about it. We just blastedthem and took a
photocopyof a little pro-choiceposter and put it up over it, becauseI did find it
quite offensive.
evident during this time. For W, the issueof abortion tappedin to related debatethat
was a main theme for her and other female interviewees: the lack of women in
in hardcore.
with the whole punk scene and a diminution in the desire and willingness to
some of these nihilists as 'jitters'. Working behind the bar in the lin12 in 1995, he
equivalentto nihilism:
71cre were a load of people over from Manchesterand I had just gone out to
collect glassesand I noticed one Oittcr] leaningover [the bar and helping himself
to free drink] and I knockedhis glassout of the way and he says: "what are you
doing? What are you doing, I haven't got any money, free beer, anarchy!" So I
explained everything about the club to him and how every pint had to be
accountedfor, becauseit was all profit and loss and there wasn't any money
behind this place. And he just went "ahh, fucking working for the system,you
got a job youjust ought to walkout! " We gotridof them inthe end andthat
sceneseems to have died down, but I mean a lot of them, they could say all the
right things, but when it camedown to it was what they could get out of it, not
what they were putting into it.
This is perhapsan extreme example of the nihilism that arose after the decline of
anarchopunk and the defeatof the travellers in the late 1980Sand 1990s. It would be
misleading to say that it was representativeof the anarcho punk sceneas a whole.
GordonPhD 134
The Jinl2 Club
For K the early yearsof the club were depressing.The Leeds sceneof the late 1980s
was starting to decline in popularity and the divisions in the club madefor a difficult
atmosphere.He arguedthat the consequenceof this was a 'siege mentality'. For him
this was brought about becausethe Club did not receive community support and was
losing money. He mainly put this down to a generalhostility towards punks. K was
withdraw from the club's activities, spending more time in Leeds during the later
There was all thesepeople who had thesereal fucking fixed ideas about what
[the club] was. I think there were horsespulling in different directions. There
was a load of theseanarchists,boring old anarchistswho wanted it to be like a
working men's club. And there was all us lot who had the idea of it being like a
Europeansocial centre. 'Causewe had beento theseplaces in Europe and I had
beento loads of squatsby this time and we were inspired by the whole fucking
thing. And I am not on about some fucking crusty pisshole, we were talking
about doing somethingreal good.
Despite featuring the multiple subgenresof hardcore punk, perceptionsof the
punk, such divisions have had an effect on the attendanceof the lin12. The view
of the club as a place of overt politics and a politically correct arenaby someof the
event concertsheld at the lin12. Not only does the frequently circulating rumour
38An issueI
will return to in chapternine.
establish the speakeras one of the older, more authentic 'hippies and punks' who
short of the ethical mark and being little other than poseursin both their conduct and
geeks' who have taken over the scenewith their namby-pambyways and political
In
pretensions. contrastto his professedstanceof independence
of mind and freedom
of action, he has only the utmost contempt for them - 'Oooooh fuck off, fucking
I
subcultural.exit. will return to discussthis issuein further detail in chaptersix.
cultural good. This is of course not always the case, or at least is not always
considered to be the case. An example of this within punk subculture is Emo. This
form of music had more in common with indie rock than punk, although the methods
of cultural production were firmly in the tradition of DiY, stemming from its early
inceptions with the DC band Rites of Spring among others. By taking its starting
was associatedmore with the Nottingham and Leeds scenes,with bands such as
Polaris and Bob Tilton becomingknown for playing this form of music. Mr. B took a
There's a lot of peoplesitting aroundon stools playing guitars which I'm not really into.
There seemedto be a lot of indie kids masqueradingas hardcorekids with basin haircuts
and glassessat a round on stools fucking posin' with rosy cheeks,that kind of thing,
which I'm not into.
Hip Hop and macho attitudes in hardeorewere also raised by Mr. G. in taking
placed the blame for this on labels such as New York's Victory Records and large
In broad terms he describedthe popularity of this as 'chipping away at the old block'.
points of view illustrated in the earlier quotation from RudimentaryPeni and Conflict
viewpoints form a general sensibility in the Leeds and Bradford punk and hardcore
scenesthat acts as a catalyst for DiY cultural production and underpins the ethical
principles of DiY punk. Implicit within Mr. G's argument against Victory is the
in the above quotes is the effort to distinguish DiY authenticity from an ethical
smokescreento conceal this ethic. Through their DIY practice, the Leeds and
of punk production, and the ethical basisof this alternativestandsat least implicitly as
Conclusion
As the previous section and the chapteras a whole has shown, DiY ethical principles
exert, in the very effort to live by and maintain them, a continuous pressureto
run from the early days of punk in the 1970sthrough to their contemporaryethical
today. The conceptual issue of what punk is, or should be, has been underpinned
throughout by 'real us' versus 'sham them' dichotomies that are always mutually
intertwined in their very oppositions to each other. Such points of view will be
However varied the different groupsand sub-groupsof the punk scenein my case
study region may be on the ground,they can be identified and categorizedin relation
to two major topical areas: firstly, the overarching, general debatesraised in the
interviews; and secondly, the spatially defined rivalry between the Leeds and
Bradford DiY scenes,an issue I will return to in chapter seven. This should not of
course detract from the sub-divisionswithin each of these areas. As I have shown,
conflicts and disagreementsare evident within the lin12 club between opposing
such divides could makethe club a difficult place with which to be associated.
Leeds and Bradford 'sounds'. From a Leeds perspective,Bradford punks are driven
associatedwith the lin12 were spoken of in interviews as being dirty, crusty and
overtly political. As Messrs.F and G pointed out, they were also regardedas cliquey,
old and argumentative. This descriptionis obviously far too neat and simplistic, but
long-standingissue of selling out. This has proved to be both a salient and resilient
theme. When questionedabout their views on punk and hardcorethat is not DiY, the
majority of my intervieweesspoke of the major label punk acts such as Green Day
and Blink 182. This was cementedby the views offered on Chumbawambasigning to
EMI and Universal records. These'were not consistently hostile and a number of
possible uses and reasonfor 'selling out' were offered as explanation and reasonfor
earn a living from their music; and subverting the music industry from the inside.
These views, along with the alternative accusationof betraying core values, will be
and practice among the subcultural groupings and related sceneswith which this
they inform lived experiencewithin these groupings, and how in various ways they
involved at every stagein people's involvement, from entry onto the scene,through
Introduction.
VvIat do participants who have chosento become involved in DiY punk rock do?
How and why do they do it, and in what ways can this practice be considered
completed and the subcultural participant opts for a deeper acquaintancein tandem
with the ethical framework of punk outlined in the previous chapter, members
punk scenes. In most cases they spend an extended period of time practically
contributing to the production of DiY punk rock. In chapterthree I illustrated how the
the various aspectsof subcultural knowledge and practice had registered with the
what the participant considers their authentic disposition reflected in both their
subcultural tastesand action. This and the following two chapterswill examinehow
in
such practice produced the everyday activities of what I consider to be core
is
The chapter will examine my two month field work period at the 1inl2, detailing
the events of beginning a studio project in -the cellar of the club. In this area of
observationthe specific focus is upon daily activity carried out betweennine am to six
the organization of gigs and their attendanceacross both fields, in addition to the
The inception of the lin12 club is a major example of a British anarchistsocial club.
model and legacy that set and linked DiY punk and anarchist principles as the
cornerstoneof their actions. Prior to the club obtaining a building in 1988,gigs were
held twice weekly from 1981 onwards and this formed some of the bedrock of
fundraising activities which the club would draw upon over the next twenty years.
The twice weekly gigs held in severalcity centre pubs provided the embodimentof the
lin12 "way", providing gigs that were cheap,free from sexist, racist and statist hassles,
the usual promoters and rip-offs, dress restrictions and bouncer intimidation. The
objective was to createa lively and participative social scene,to stimulate a culture of
resistance a space under which the control and direction of the membership for
entertainment,debateand solidarity. (What is the IinI2 Club? 1995)
Under the rubric of DiY the Club released books and records with its own
publishing and record labels during this time which were in keeping with the anarchist
principles of mutual-aid at the club. The link to the participants of this study has
already been mentioned. Mr. S was involved in putting gigs on and Mr. 0 used to
attend these events. Danbert from Chumbawambamentioned how the band was
involved with the OITC in the early years. The first occasionwas not intentional:
initially involved with the anarchopunk scene. The latter scenehad attempted on
numerousoccasionsto set up such a club. Mr. R noted the collectively run 'Station
Europe from the late 1960s onwards. In 1980, Crass funded a London anarchist
centre, 'The Anarchy Centre', through the proceeds from the split single benefit
Rimbaud commented:
closure for over twenty yearsin spite of manifesting thesesimilar divisions and splits
over the years. As the guide to the lin12 explains, these have created serious
problems:
At no stagein the Club's history has the relationship between"ideal" and "reality" ever
been straightforward. Indeed conflict over whose ideals and which reality has often
thrown the Club into deep intemal conflict. The diversity of interests, priorities and
expectationsof the membership,empoweredby the open and active processof decision
making, has often come at a price. Sometimesmembers have left, disillusioned and
occasionally bitter, but this is the uncomfortable reality of taking responsibility and
control. (Op.cit:3)
The field work rangedfrom daily contact and observationwith both of the scenes
with the first sectionbeing chiefly concernedwith the I in 12, although I attendedDiY
and thesewere certainly more frequentthan the occasionalgigs held at the I in 12. At
the lin12 my activities ranged from building the recording studio in the building's
latter to illuminate the daily practices of what can be describedin general terms as
punk culture.
On arrival at the lin12 at a matineegig on a rainy Sundayin early June, 2001,1 was
welcomed and informed by one of the 'core' membersthat I would be involved with
helping out with other tasks. The club functions under the umbrella of a number of
collectives. The list for the collectives is as follows: peasants collective (food
growing), games collective, library collective, gig collective, football team, drama
The weekly running of the club was monitored through the membership meetings
each Sunday in which forthcoming events and day-to-day issues were collectively
to the memberswith the view to outlining the intentions of the project. During this
present at the club from midday to five pm six days a week with mornings and
Tbursdaysset aside for field joumal writing. My main colleague in the building of
The generalethic of DiY, self managementand mutual aid is set in the very heart of
the lin12 club and this is why MY punk has becomea stable,though not completely
involved within the club is informed by this, though I hasten to add that my
club activities that could have taken the outcomeof the presentwork in various non-
musical tangents. What underpinsthe progressionof projects within and beyond the
club is the DiY ethic of personal and collective responsibility whilst retaining
and empowermentas its centrepiece.In terms of action the wider control of recording
and practice rooms by private interestsresults in the majority of DiY musical projects
paying inflated practice and studio costs, thus surrendering control and recording
quality to such interests, impoverishing band members and labels and presenting
added financial pressureon such projects. The chief aim of having a studio in the
is
club primarily to introducehitherto unpractisedrecording studio skills and to enable
recordingtheir music and such skills are off limits to the 'customer'. The project had
storagearea for bandsin the basementof the club. The practice room and recording
label distribution and bands. The walls, power supplies and the false roof of the
practice room were constructedby club members volunteering for shifts, with the
The cellar room behind the practice room, earmarkedfor the studio control room,
end of the room used to contain the club's floor safe. The aim of my two months of
* To soundproof all walls, install and cut out a soundproofed control room
room. This entailed fixing batons to the walls (drilling and rawlplugging);
9 Cutting to shape and carpeting the walls once all other tasks had been
completed
Thesetasks beganmid- June and were completed by early August (see appendix 7).
'9 It should be
noted that, unRe Leeds6 whose houseshave considerable'luxurious' basementspace
for band rehearsals,Bradford musicians had no such space. Indeed the majority of most of the
Bradford musicians interviewed for the project inhabited small flats in Manningharnwhere accessto
the basementwas deniedor, where it did occur,the spacewas too small.
business:'At no stagein the Club's history has the relationship between"ideal" and
"reality" ever been straightforward' the Club guide asserted. Indeed in spite of my
paid ground staff of two meant that I was mostly on my own during the initial stages
of the project with initiative and autonomy becoming my key allies. Audiences and
general punters of the club are rarely seen outside of the Club events. The busy
eclipsed by a different ethos: one of daily grind, struggle and routine club DiY
business.
Arriving at the club on my first studio fieldwork visit around midday, I expected
to be told what to do. Apart from being advised that I would be involved in the
studio, it was completely down to me to get the project moving. Aware that there
were three other membersof the studio collective, Mr. I, J and X, I suggestedthat we
meet to formulate a strategyto begin work.4o As Mr. J was tied up in the running of
the Club, Mr. I with a full time job and numerous other involvements in the club
including sound engineer, I found that I needed to recruit some help, though this
would take at least a week to realise. Mr. J articulated the overall pressure of
J: yeah, it boggeddown a lot becauseit kept going back to the practicalities of people
sort of like people doing stuff, people sort of actually building stuff a lot of people,
becausethey can't, they get ffustrated, becausethey are not very good at it they don't
actually bother coming down like so. It didn't follow straighton from the practiceroom.
40 MiS took
place with generallong term plans discussedand set out, but the three collective members
(with the obvious exceptionof Mr. J) only had input into this project at a distance.
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It just carried on with the studio, it was like it just fizzled out a bit. It was good that
someonecamealong and did it.
The first days spent at the club were not involved with work on the studio project.
stairs, and assistedwith general tasks: activities that form the backboneto the daily
task to be completed. The obvious reasonsfor doing field work at the club, watching
the club requires a dedication not to the immediate, visual task of promoting the
event, putting bands on, feeding them or even building the studio, but instead to the
mundane. The thankless tasks of the daily reproduction of the club ensured its
survival and personalautonomy was central to the completion of any task and this
chapterseven. Here Mr. I exemplified in a diary entry his frustrations at being drawn
Myself Mr. J was askedto show me what the initial tasksof the studio project were.
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My practical DiY skills were of limited capacitybut I had a determinationto makethe
project happen. J. said that I should begin with hanging a door to allow the safeto be
separatedfrom the main control room. Mr. J was soon called away to anothertask in
the club. I wrote the following in the fieldjoumal once work had stoppedbecauseof
18/06/00Mr. J arrived back at the club and managedto get the drill going. The problem
was solved by 'banging' the drill on the studio wall. This was not something I was
comfortable with due to the danger of this practice, but after a few 'knocks' the drill
appearedto behaveitself. An interestingpoint to note here was that such activities are
made 'by all meansnecessary'and available and done with the equipmentat hand. In
short a 'make do' operation.Proceedingahead,we managedto make a start on the studio
and drilled the holes in the wooden door frame ready to attach to the door. The most
striking thing herewas that this was MY activity to producethe facilities of DiY cultural
production.
I shall return to the point of building materials and tools shortly. The following
week after the above quote was spent in equal frustration. At almost every turn of
building the studio I found myself either isolated and distracted or struggling to
achieve the task though my lack of practical DiY skills. I began to feel that I was
somehow 'missing' out on the 'real' club activity and that self-observation was
pointless. Mr. J helped where he could as did the volunteer, Mr. H. I even thought I
had recruited a potential volunteer out of an interestedvisitor to the club who offered
his servicesone afternoon and never returned. What was becoming evident to me
whilst I was confined to this dusty basementwas the feeling that I would have to
make things happenif this project was to be of any success. This would involve the
familiarity with the core members allowed the recruitment of two new studio
collective members. During the eveningsI spenttime at gigs, pubs and clubs in Leeds
where a number of the participantsof the DiY scenesocialised. From playing at the
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Club on numerousoccasionsI was familiar with one of the soundengineers,Mr. K,
who had helped to both build the club when the building was purchasedand had a
long standing involvement with music. K had moved to Leeds in 1999 and due to
personal issueswith anothermember had reduced contact with the Club. However
when I informed him of the studio project and askedif he wished to be involved he
agreedto put aside personaldifferencesand offer his servicesto build the club. K
was also a studentof soundengineeringat a local university and was thus able to use
this experience during his summer break to expand his knowledge of studio
construction. K lived near myself in Leeds and was able to get lifts from me to the
club at 12pmeachday. He was clear about why he joined in with the studio project:
It will be a good fucking spaceand I meanthe practice room's good enough. I mean it
will be a way, hopefully, of giving peopleskills, again. Hopefully it won'tjust becomea
little fucking, so and so's little recording studio. I do hope people will be able to get in
there and be able to learn the stuff. Erin, and make mistakesand fucking fuck things up
you know and that we'll be able to, you know, gain another rung in the ladder of
production, you know, production sort of thing you know what I mean and it will make
money for the club hopefully. Use the spacethat's there, which is what the fucking
building's for you know.
The secondrecruit, Mr. U, camefrom a club memberwho was involved in the Leeds
squatvenue known as the '120Rats'. He had been heavily involved in the renovation
of that building in the Meanwood area of Leeds from a run-down hovel to a fully
Int: it was totally by fluke. I had no idea how skilled Mr. U was going to be: he wasjust
sat in the cafe one day and I was moaning. I was sat there going 'fucking hell, I have got
to go down that fucking room and sit there. I can't you know lift stuff and get stuff
right., Ilien Mr. U said in one morning said 'I'll come and give you a hand'. And that
was the first time I went 'fucking wowl' You know 'people are willing to help me.
And he camedown and seemedto know what he was doing and that was great.
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The project advancedin terms of a team formation and progressedmuch faster than
I anticipated. For the following seven weeks the project worked four to five
dedicating full attention to the project. The other member Mr. I worked largely in
isolation from us constructingthe studio window at his home. I should also mention
the project. Indeedthe majority of the tools were gleanedfrom various club sources,
were of various levels of quality and were scatteredthroughout the building. The
majority of these implements were in various statesof disrepair and left a lot to be
desired. As I noted abovethe drill was the first stumbling point. With the addition of
Mr. K, he personally supplied his own drill after the initial tool completely broke
The materials of the project becamevery interesting and matched the underlying
ethos of the club. Indeed the majority of the wood and other material usedduring the
initial stagesof the project was 'reclaimed'. This was shorthandfor searchingskips
and derelict buildings for the appropriate wood of which there was a large supply.
Large amountsof wood were also sourcedfrom inside the club. The original stageon
the first floor of the club was originally built by Club membersin 1992 for the New
York band, Sick Of It All, to play on. It was only intendedas a temporary measure
but remainedin existencefor over eight years before being replacedby a larger stage.
1Both studio
collective membersMr. U and X politely declinedto be interviewedfor the research.
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The wood removedfrom the existing stagewas channelledinto the practice room and
studio projects. The recycling of materials is in tandem with the ecological ethical
stance of the club scene. I also noticed a change in myself. I could not pass a
amount of the studio hardwareout of a skip at the back of one of the local collegesin
equipment.
Not all of the materials and tools were acquired in this manner. The project had
funds for the essentialbuilding materials. This camefrom four chief sources. Firstly,
Chumbawambadonated E500 for the studio project gleaned from their royalties by
allowing the popular song 'Tubthumping' to be used for a car advert. Secondly, a
number of 'cocktail by
nights' were organised club memberswhich brought in over
flOO; thirdly, a number of benefit hardcore punk gigs produces equal amounts of
money for the project. Finally, one of the central self-generatingfunding methods
bought at various intersectionsof the project. For larger items, such as plasterboard
for example,this was transportedwith Mr. I's van. The majority of trips were made
in my old VW Beetle. Cashwas taken from the project money stored in the safe and
Work
The work on the project continued in line with the ethics of the club scene. The
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Occasionally, tasks required only two members so inevitably, one of the members
was plagued with doubt that the project could be realised, although as the project
wall with a degreeof accuracy. The senseof teamwork grew in equal strength and
very few arguments occurred. All tensions occurred during particularly delicate
operations such as installing the ceiling. Overall my sense of initiative grew and
rather than being told how to perform a task I went ahead and did it: regardlessof
I
whether was successfulor not. If I struggled with a given task I would ask for
would be drawn away from the studio tasks to help with other activities, such as
deliveries of food which required being carried up to the third floor of the building,
to
cutting shapeof wooden batonsprior to drilling the walls so they could be screwed
and securedto the walls took around two weeks. One person would be measuring,
one drilling and one screwing the batonsto the wall. Fibreglasssheetswere utilised
as soundproofing, cut to shape and placed in the spacesbetween the batons. The
was all achieved by carefully taking into account the electrical and light socket
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to also cut a rectangleof bricks out of the studio wall in order that the control room
and recording studio. This involved fitting a lintel and laying bricks to ensure a
soundproofed'fit'.
Secondly,the ceiling had spacescut for the lights and an accesshatch for the fuse-
below. Finally the carpetwas procured,measuredand nailed to the walls and ceiling
taking account of the power socketsand light switches. The door was also correctly
Tea and dinner breaks were collectively voted on and usually occurred when we
and friends who came in to check the progress of the project, Occasionally long
discussionswould occur over how the studio could be most effectively utilised as a
club resource; on other occasions, scene and club gossip was the subject of
conversation. At all times the usual distractions would occur. Indeed studio project
members would often not be able to attend to commitments outside of the project.
The first was related to the eviction court casefor the squat. This was a sourceof
general squat meetingsto discussstrategies. This had the added pressureof U not
being presentfor someof the studio sessionsand when K had to be elsewhereI was
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Secondly,the Bradford riots of July 7th 2001, when the BNP attemptedto march
studio. Indeedthe club's building on the Saturdayof the riots was a stagingpost for
the Leeds Anti-Fascist action group and the caf6 was open and very busy. Club
security was doubled with members looking out of the top floor before permitting
anyone entrance. We, as a studio collective, had all agreed to be present in the
becauseof threats from the BNP on the club and its membersthrough a race hate
website. On arrival that day, it was discoveredthat there had been an attempt the
previous eveningto set fire to the club by pouring engine oil on one of the walls and
The atmospherein the club that day was tense in light of both the failed arson
attack, and the riots. There were various memberspopping in and out of the building,
returning with occasional reports of what was happening during the run-up to the
wood was cut in the building as instead of the street as a potential security measure.
The difference to the majority of the previous work on the project was the number of
people who volunteeredto help on the studio for the day. At least four others helped
to complete a large section of the work. However, with some of the most serious
a mile from the building, the atmospherewas tense. The audible backdrop to that
The daily regime of the club had been eclipsed by a tense atmospherethat
penetrated all floors of the building although the club remained inspirational to
newcomers. Here Mr. I is explicit in that people commentedon the value and worth
of the Club:
Here you can ask somebodywhat their favorite twenty albums are. Half of them are
really recent ones becausethey are the ones they rememberthe best. I mean the most
recent thing was just the day of the riots. Cause, loads of people came in. People had
come from London to resist the NF, who didn't turn up, but they were coming in here
and going 'Ohhh, this place is great' and stuff like that. I imagined I was in a First
World War soup kitchen, you know, on this sort of wagon, a few hundred yards away
from the front, causepeople kept coming in talking about what was going on and then
having their burger and going out again. Mobile phoneswere ringing and stuff and I was
just like serving food which is sort of like kind of mundanereally, but it was obvious that
they neededto be fed and they did think that this place was great.
Overall, the riots ironically aided in the studio project's progression,though I have
to admit that fear was very much evident in the general atmosphereof the work
carried out that day. What it also surnmarisedwas the intersection of mutual aid:
membersbandedtogetherin the face of a threat to the club and were there as much to
Mistakes.
During the courseof the studio project a number of mistakeswere made. Wood was
cut to the wrong length, holes drilled in the wrong place and tasks were attempted
'by all means' necessarythe task will continue that provided at least two, key
stumbling blocks. The operation of this philosophy often meant that there was no
skilled personpresentto halt the task and inform you that there was a technical error
arrived to see that it had been perfectly and completely reinstalled by U, who had
is
project a hindrance to its overall progression. The lack of DiY skills in these
examples led to material, time and efforts being wasted. Equally, with the correct
Outcomesand Postscript
The stagesoutlined abovefor the studio were completedby early August, 2001. With
U facing eviction and K returning to focus attention on his college work, the project
stalled for some considerabletime beyond the work we had completed. Without the
later in that year. The next task was to lay the flooring, though this was not completed
until Decemberof that year with the studio equipmentinstalled and fully functioning
by early 2002.
That the studio project ground to halt for this time is testimony to the way that the
Club functions in general. It returnedbriefly to the back of the members' minds until
steadylack of volunteersand paid staff, all handswere put to the pumpsjust to keep
the club open. Three years later in 2004, the studio project is now fully up and
either vinyl or CD and standas a testimony to the mutual efforts of all those involved.
The bandsto have recordedthere and releasedrecords are The Devils, Extinction of
Throughout the building of the studio the feelings of frustration at the occasional
a
completed, or accomplishing particularly difficult task, resulted in a sense of
comment on how good the work looked. This was particularly in the eye of the
beholder and on many occasionswhen visitors were gleefully shown some wood
to
screwed a wall or the correct installation of the ceiling joists, we were often met
with puzzled faces and replies of, 'oh, I can see it's taking shape.' However, the
senseof achievementwas not equally sharedby all members. Here Mr. J is candid
aboutthis:
I haven't got the same senseof achievementbuilding the studio as I had building the
practice room because it is like having your second kid or something. It's like you have
done it once. Obviously it's exciting but it's not the first time it's happenedand I think
when I actually heara recording out of it that is when it will hit me the most like.
Whilst J notes the lack of feeling fulfilled, he was enthusiasticthat the freedom and
That sensethat you can do what you want, really. Sort of freedom,within reason,to you
know. It's like today we canjust go, right we are going to build a recording studio.
The linl2 provided that specific space and practical application of punk ethics
these feelings that act as a spring to the motivational factors of DiY projects such as
this. Such feelings were revisited and re-occasionedwhen I was informed in 2002,
after I had played the Club with my band, that our set had been recorded live in the
Club studio. On being shown the studio after the show, in full working order
to
chance record cheaply,effectively and to learn new skills. The senseof satisfaction
on a label, getting it distributed and reviewed in fanzines,to the actual control of the
R: I will just start with some of the positive things. I think the practice room and the
studio has definitely improved the club. I am really looking forward to when our band
gets a few songs together is to record in the studio that has been built by friends you
know in a place that we can have. I mean that is everything that I am about with the
band and it was like if we could just have that part of it. If we could havejust pressedthe
fucker there it would have been even better. But I mean that's one amazing, inspiring
growth thing. Just being to
able go and practice in the practice room is a fucking good
laugh aswell. So thosethings are really good.
practices of running a label, fanzine, band, distro stall, doing gig promotions and
touring. I'm not belittling the latter, indeedthey are central to the whole remit of DiY
punk. But the extension of the DiY ethic into fresh avenuesof investigation which
results in is
success extremelyrewarding for all thoseinvolved.
The frustrations of the project also serve to illuminate the day-to-day practices and
essential tasks that must be completed in order that the studio can both be built and
continue to exist. The constant reproductive tasks central to the Club meant that there
members from achieving goals swiftly. This factor of 'struggle' as the opening
in chaptereight.
The final point is that in terms of DiY cultural production the creation and
over and againstmass or administeredculture. Whilst such acts are largely ad hoc,
and operate under the anarcho syndicalist badge of mutual aid and 'by all means
the successfulcompletion of a DiY project , are one of the chief motivational factors
of the MY punk scene. The skills that are sharedbeyond the building of the studio
project are in keeping with the generalethos of the Club and the studio project now
the scene; within and without relationships between core, peripheral and semi-
operateswithin the ethical guidelines of whatever punk genre they inhabit. The
reasonfor this is that there appearsto be an irony operating right at the heart of punk
culture, which stands for the obliteration of elitism and the adoption of cultural
GenreDistinction
Thornton (1995) calls 'subcultural capital'. The problem with this term is that it is too
wide in referenceand has little to say either about how it operatesdiscursively in the
Not only does this concept dispensewith the financial implications of the word
4capital'; it also and equally draws upon the aspectsof Bourdieu's (1984) conceptof
inform taste cultures. The concept of genre distinction has specific meaning with
referring to this as 'subcultural capital', yet she reveals little of how her participants
experience into
transposes authenticconduct: the subsequentsubcultural memberhas
such within the subcultural scene,is therefore central to the subsequentactions and
contention that there is a potential subtext to DiY punk that on the one hand views
inauthentic action both with suspicion, scom, jealousy and fear, whilst on the other
practice may produce scom and inauthentic action, praise and sympathy. Through a
the ethical frameworks of punk (see chapter three), can be used at a number of
hail the subcultural practitioner as a bona fide, authentic member and reciprocal
people, records, venues, fanzines, distros and almost any facet of subcultural punk
purpose to it. When used in the service of an actor's subcultural credibility, such
knowledge can be used as both markers of the subject's authentic and inauthentic
status.
from a 'knowing subject' subculturalposition within a given scene. Such usageis not
usageand the demonstrationof this knowledge are central in the construction of that
bolstering of one's own authentic subcultural practice or, instead, to defend the
how is genre distinction used in the construction, defence and identity of the
practitionerpunk culture?
The central aim of this is to assert how the fine-tuned examination of genre
and thwarts attemptsto place endpoints upon punk while also historically locating
comprehensiveoverview of all punk genres over the past twenty-five years (thus
historical document!). I focus only on the claims madein the interviews regardingthe
initial influence that certain musical genreshad on the interviewees in their specific
forms of subculturalpractice.
played out in the interviewees' statementsof entranceinto punk culture. I take careto
al, 1992: 17) of discourse and instead mutually inhabit each other. Within this
the discourse and practice of punk. These are: the authentic original; membership
'Back in the day' was/is a common everyday term used by subcultural membersto
considered 'classic' period of punk rock in the 1970s and the associatedebates
cultural location.
Specifically, the authentic original relates to musical genres that are used by the
informants to rhetorically define what is and what is not deemedto be punk rock.
genres as inferior, in
elitist or substandard contrast to the 'honesty' of the punk
aesthetic. This method of rhetorically 'putting down' past, presentand future musical
genresof punk (and other musical genres)is a method of constructing the speaker's
authentic version of punk. The most common form of such discourseis related to
either the origins of punk rock or to the 'classic' period of punk that is said to have
existedfrom 1977-79.
During the seventieswhen I was kind of a young, middle teenagermy peer group were
all into this kind of Genesisand Yes [music] and I kind of knew it was wrong but I
couldn't put my finger on what it was. Er it seemedlike you had to pretendyou liked it
invoked against the tastes of Mr. I's Peers. 'Pointless wanking' is a pejorative,
descriptively inflated put-down which both articulates Mr. I's unease with the
exclusivity of leading music genresin the mid- I 970s,and preparesthe ground for his
own identification with the inclusivity of punk, which is then set up in opposition to
4pointlesswankers'.
rock, or whatever). Mr. I stated that when Peel first played the Ramonesin 1976
againstthe backdropof the progressiverock of the time, he thought it was a joke, yet
I thought it was a joke and then I realisedthat it wasn't. I worked out that it was full of
energy. You can namethis record to your mate and say "here, listen to this it's exciting
straightforward and direct." Previously my friends would lend me records and they
would be saying "listen to this" if you don't like it meansthat I am cleverer than you
which wasn't a deal that I wantedto be in. So [I heard] the Damned,TIe Ramoneslike
millions of other people the music they heard on John Peel got me involved in punk
(emphasismine)
Here the specific tool for identifying the construction of authenticity is I's
oppositional self/other depiction of early punk music as initially 'a joke' before
Early divisions were evident over peer interpretations of American and English
discrimination between'punks at the time who got it and punks who didn't. ' Here the
through both his identification with the 'second hand' look of UK punk and is also
capturedin his misrecognition of what R refers as the authentic original punk look
with what he and the band consideredcentral in the formation of the punk genre.
Those who didn't 'get this' were performatively hailed by R as inauthentic and
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were punk parochials. Their transatlantic illiteracy substantially diminished their
What is clear from the above examplesis how the category of 'authentic original'
from
responses/reactions the listener; and finally serve as a marker of the length of
MembershipBadges
These are the historically and culturally relevant, visible and spoken categoriesand
mentioning salient and important band names, records, concerts, places, and most
social and historical spaceand also demonstratethe extent of their knowledge of the
derive from the international interpretations of either the American, English (as
general talk and action within the ethnographic field, the confirmation of one's
are rehearsedand act as a catalyst for secondaryinvestigation for Mr. J. The adept
Mr. J was involved with the heavy rock subcultureuntil the early eighties when he
solution to this problem. Thus, for J, underground punk genre provided what he
It wasn't until the eighties'till I startedrealising that that all the gigs I was going to were
sort of. us band, you audiencesort of thing. Everything was sort of bleak. As soon as
you got through the door at the venuethey just try to bleedyou dry. After going to a few
gigs at the NEC, just feeling like completecattle. I sort of bumped into a few matesfrom
the heavy rock days and sort of my mate John, who had pink spiky hair and was hanging
out with GBH. We got nattering and I started hanging around and went to see Big
Country. That was sort of a semi punk gig and it had loadsof energyin a little venueand
that was good. I meanthat was it. You know when you get into somethingand go this is
where I want to be, this is like what I have beenafter.
Whilst this sectionof the interview neatly demonstrateshow affiliations with more
suitable peers and peer group scenesare secondarily investigated,sought after and
badgeis usedto portray the speakerasthe same. Here J's criticisms of corporaterock
'bleed you dry' - togetherwith the facelessnessof the events-'feeling like complete
cattle'. This is presentedas inferior to, and less authentic than, the status of what J
to
refers as a 'semi punk gig' where 'there was loads more energy' in a 'small venue.
Here is where the authenticity is located for J while repeatingthe wider argumentof
corporate versus small 'semi punk' gig acts as a membership badge. The adept
punk gig' belies the knowledge that J has of what he considersan authentic punk
concert. The use of such additional terms such as GBH as his peer group also
J
establishes within the genreof streetpunk. T'his was achievedthrough the interview
interview.
GenreLocation Indicators
informed membersof the culture. Mr. C mentionedthe 1987 Radio One John Peel
at that time you had John Peel doing the Radio One Show and he was putting out Peel
sessionswith like Heresy,The Stupidsand Napalm Deathand so you know it was like an
early building block sort of state.
Here the specific knowledgeof John Peel's sessionsare invoked in addition to some
of the key bands mentioned during that time. The dual purpose of this statement
firstly locatesthe speakeras having the specific subcultural knowledge of the period
42
of hardcorepunk popularisedby John Peel in 1987 as 'britcore' Secondly,use of
.
the phrase'early building block sort of state' (my emphasis)locatesthe speakerin the
present.
However the previous quote fails to demonstratethe use of spatial and geographical
0: basically with a questionabout the I in 12 is like facing me with like a question about
Leeds 6 basically, cause it's been there for years, it's like I was going to I in 12 gigs
before the Club building existed for fucks sake! Erin, I guess I'm a circumstanceof
geographyreally becauseI was born and brought up within [a] close proximity of Leeds
and Bradford.
Here the speakernavigates between innocent location indicators specific to the
club gigs before they obtained a grant for their own building. The innocent term
is using the term as a mutual scene location point with the interviewer. In this
predominantly (but not totally) the potentially informative location of the majority of
participantsin the DiY sceneof that area. Repletewith such knowledge,the speaker
to
member other participants. This is
point also of equal value for the sharing of
place genreetc. Not only is the sharedelementand aspectof mutual aid in DiY punk
rock made explicit in such examplesbut also it equally illustrates how subcultural
knowledgebecomesa sharedscenephenomenon.
Hated YetRelated
been mentioned. Pop, ska punk and mainstreamversions of punk (Blink 182 and
Green Day are key examples) have been spoken of in my interviews in terms of
vitriolic animosity and were largely judged, with the exception of Mr. V who has a
hostility in the discourse of punk serve to locate authenticity within the accepted
frames of genre distinction. The 'hated and related' is of key importance to those
bands decried for having 'sold out' (see chapter nine). Those subcultural practices
that have shifted attention from the core ethical values of DiY punk attract vitriol,
Gordon PhD
scorn, and stereotypical othering and are generally treated as distasteful and
unattractive practices from those members who view them as counter to their
DiY ethics:
R: You know I can't claim to have a monopoly on punk you know what I mean it is all
over the shop. I find that the history is reinventing things which is, and I'll conclude
with this, but history reinventing stuff and you really notice it as you get older is that
things get misrepresentedand you realise no it wasn't like that: what are you on about
you know? You realiseit and I dunno,that whole strain of stuff that I have beena part of
with Flat Earth [records] and that whole anarcho stuff through the nineties and the
British, northern hardcore scene and the label and the stuff that you are involved in
yourself and that whole part of it, I would say it is not really getting its dues, it is not
really getting recognised. It's like all these other things have kind of overtaken it.
Becausewe haven't got the big marketing tools and we are not marketing our shit you
know like PhD [distribution] or someone'sjust like swamping. You know somewankers
like that: Victory Records you know these are people that I particularly despiseyou
know. These are peoplewho arejust cynical businesspeople you know. They are just
cunts,you know, I haven't got a betterword for them I'm afraid. I hatethem. And I hate
what they stand for and they standfor bullshit and capitalism and nothing else. And the
fact that people like me, who are trying to make a change,trying to fight against this
bullshit they arejust being swampedby this and I find that that is the case. ButIthinkas
long as I have got a breathin us we will still exist and we will just do our own thing. But
my perspectivehasdeflinitelychangedfrom a big, world changingthing. A big explosive
thing like the Crassand the whole anarchopunk thing was big enoughto ensnarea lot of
people into it and then you have got this very localised, very small undergroundthing
that you are part of causethat is just how it is at the minute. Err, I don't know, DiY does
not have to be small but for me it is what I considerworth it. Errm and it's just that there
is so much bullshit out there.I fucking hateeveryone[laughter]. I think I'll just quit.
history, with the activities of northernDiY hardcoreand punk rock being ignored. He
core ethical practicesaroundwhich he has run his record label for the best part of two
decades:his present subcultural scenereality has been eclipsed and ignored by the
practices he stands counter to. That corporate marketing strategies of the PhD
meant that the political and ethical dimensionshave been equally excised. R feels
animosity towards this - 'I hate what they stand for and they stand for bullshit and
continue running his small DiY record label 'as long as I have a breath in us then we
will still exist'. A central point here is that through the hated and related [other] the
deemed 'un' DiY and the practices described below. Authentic DiY production
requiresthe other wider non DiY scenesof punk rock as a benchmarkin order to both
construct and identify itself. This is not applicable in all cases,yet the catalyst for
system,major music industry, racist, homophobic,sexist etc. Without such, the DiY
scene loses the anchor of its identity. Yet the reverse can equally be the case:
those participants of the non-DiY punk scenewho have equal claims on their punk
reality. Here this position is articulatedby Mr. BS, a punk in a pub in Bradford who
interrupted one of my interviews when he found out I was associatedwith the One in
Twelve.
B: the early days,yeah it was set up by the old punks and stuff, yeah, hippies and punks,
yeah it were alright. You got all the fucking geeksin there now who you know, don't eat
meat, that you know, got a little bit of a line with that now. But, hey, practice what you
preach! If that comesinto it, practicewhat you preachfor Christ's sake. And they don't
know what they've beenpreachingso they don't evenknow how to practiceit.
Apart from the obvious and interesting evocation of the authentic original category
of 'the early days' those who run the club 'now' are castigatedas 'fucking geeks'.
who see their version of punk rock tainted by perceived newcomersto the scene.
here to replace 'hated yet related' with the term counterculture,but the transferability
The hated yet related is an exceptionally poignant issue that drives the practice of
DiY, the needto retain control over the cultural production in order that political and
for personal gain. The MY punk sceneis chiefly constituted though its reciprocal
Other. It strives to be what the other is not, yet at times they become difficult to
distinguish from each other. To the untrained observer,whose interests lie beyond
those things punk, such issues may appear trivial or insignificant, yet to those
Together these four analytical categories allow the investigation and analysis of the
Conclusion
distinction and its four non-mutually exclusive sub-sections that illustrate how
exemplify the practical value of this model in the following chapter in relation to the
reciprocal activities within and between the two subcultural scenesof Leeds and
Bradford. This model will also prove its analytical worth when the subsequent
Introduction
This is the second chapter dedicatedto the practical activities in the ethnographic
Leeds will be outlined, paying specific attentionto how the previous model of genre
setting. I shall also expand one the issuesof punk ethical dilemmas as they relate to
spectrumof DiY punk practice. The majority of the gigs I attended/playedduring the
four month fieldwork period took place from approximately: 6pm - 2am and beyond.
The exception to this was the matinee festival and the 'early start' gig; such events
generally began around 12pm with matinees finishing around 6pin whilst festival
Thirdly, the ethical similarities and differences between multi-sited Leeds and
represents the reciprocal relationship between the adjacent cities and will present an
members of the two scenes along the lines of the differences previously outlined in
chapter four. Indeed the two groupings occasionally negotiated and constructed their
own authentic position within the subculture through and between their relationship to
The secondplacementI was involved in was at the Leedsrecord shop Out of SteP44.
Establishedin 1999by two friends Mr. V and Mr. Z (not interviewed), the shop was
realised after the pair (both of whom had gained experienceworking both inside of
I worked for Polygram for a bit and stuff Re that. And I just startedtalking to people
I
really and spoke to one of my friends I knew in Leedsand he said Mr. Z is working in a
record shop, he's still working in Virgin, he used to work in record shops up north and
stuff, maybe you should give him a ring. I phoned him I was like well do you fancy
openinga shop and it was like, yeah. And erm, I spoketo him in Manchestera few times
it
and seemed like a good idea. Then a mate of mine in Manchesterdid a big distro I
always used to buy records off gave up doing the distro. He just said right well my
girlfriend's said we're moving house and I've got to get rid of it all causethere's no
room for it, it takes up too much time, here's a list of stuff you can buy. He was just
giving them out to everybodyin Manchestersaying, and I was like oh right, I was going
through it and going, oh that's a good record and that's a good record. I was like 'how
much for the lot?' And he like gave us a really cheapprice and I bought all his distro off
hirn. Then becauseMr. Z knew peopleat Revelationand different record labels like that
and they had stuff over here at different distros and we just started getting stuff a bit
cheaper.I think they were just helping us out really. In the end we got quite a lot of
stock really cheapand we searchedround for a shop. We got in touch with the Wisdom
[skateboard shop] who had this shop in Bradford that wasn't doing too well, but they
43seeappendices4,5,6,7 in
relation to this chapter.
44Out of Step (With the World) is a 1983 song by the Washington D.C hardcoreband, Minor 11ireat,
whose lyrical intention was to detail the struggle of living a straight edge lifestyle in a culture wholly
colonized by hedonistic practices. The singer, Ian Mackaye, is often popularized as being one of the
originators of the anti-hedoniststraight-edgehardcore. See,for Example Lahickey (1998) for a robust
accountof the first fifteen yearsof this culture. Seealso Blush (2001)
band playing Leedsand Bradford DiY showsand through my customat the shop over
the previous years. Unlike the studio project there was no real goal other than to sell
records, though this view was soon counteredthrough observation. On many points
this was an entirely different mode of operationto the Iinl2 club. The businesswas
by
privately not collectively owned two people although decisionswere made on an
short this was a retail placement. However there were salient points of departure.
a broad spectrum of DiY punk and hardcore genres in clear evidence. This was a
centrepieceof DiY activity: Leeds had numerous examples of this activity. I will
Unlike the feelings of initiative and integrity evidently observedin the Club, I was
where one talked to the people from Wisdom, hung out in the street, smoked or
ordered cups of tea and coffee from the Turkish deli two shops down the street.
Situatedat the back of the Corn Exchange- the Leedsintersectionof once bohemian
stalls which also formed the weekend 'hangout' for primary and secondary
45RevelationRecordsis
one of the original New York straightedgerecord labelscurrently operating out
Los Angeles. SeeLahickey (1996).
shops, cafes and general bric-a-brac boutiques. However, together with the
skateboardretailer in the shop at the time, the shop presenteda social arenaripe for
The shop usually turned aroundE250 a day and more at weekends. I worked there
from 10 -5pm four days a week and worked to a rota system with both V and Z
shadowing me in the early stagesof the placement. The shop held well over three
stickers, band videos and various subcultural 'trinkets'46. DiY music was held there
from all over the world and sold as cheaply as possible. My role was to serve,play
return sold record sleevesand CD casesback to the aisles if they were still in stock,
to
otherwise place the storagecardsin the reorderbox.
The backboneof this shop under the bannerof the MY ethic of independenceand
have worked in this shop had I not had a working knowledge of punk and hardeore
music. This is an extremely salient point which I will discuss in more detail below.
The shop appearedvoid of such ethical concerns,though I will assertbelow that this
1) TheEthical ConsumerDilemma47
46 The shop
also sold badges, patches, plastic figures of famous band members, such as Ozzy
Osbourne,Kiss AC/DC etc.
47Horton, D (2004).
committed to the practice of DiY, both at the shop and in their extra shop 'activities',
this was certainly not the case, though it dramatically shifted between these two
planes at various junctures. The precursor to Out of Step is the distro stall, a self-
managedrecord stall of various sizesfound at most DiY gigs in tandemwith the DiY
ethic of accessibility and low prices. The latter is chiefly concerned,with selling
records to the subculture. Here the shop was attempting to increasethe range of
music for sale by encompassingthe multitude of genresthat not only exist within
punk and hardcorebut also metal and select forms of rock music. Such punk genres
did not instantly appearin the shop and this only happenedthrough a gradual period
V
of negotiation. expandsupon suchissues:
when we first talked about doing the shop, cause obviously I didn't know what was
involved in doing the shop and neitherdid Z. I was saying right we'll have all the CDs at
four quid and no major label stuff and all this. People,when we first opened,and a lot of
the kids, were coming in - literally three or four a day - saying, 'got anything by
Sublime?Got anything by these' and they were all on major labels. And we didn't stock
it. Then after like four, five monthsor somethingone kid come in and asked[for a major
label record] and he said 'have you got it?' and I was like 'no we haven't got it. Out of
interestmate how much is it?' and he said loh, I'll get it in HMV it's alright I'll get it in
there'. And I went 'how much is it in theremate? ' and he went 'twenty two pound'. We
looked at the list and we knew we could get it cheaperand if we stocked it, causeit is
still the samesort of music, it's just that some of those bands are on a major label. And
it's like we can do it for five, six, seven,eight pound cheaperthan that. And it's like well,
so what do we do: we say we're not going to stock it because it's on a major label or, are
we gonna stock it and save loads of money. At the sametime while they are picking up
that there might be somethingon the stereoin the shop where they go 'what's that? That's
really good', 'Oh it's a band from Leeds does the same sort of thing, it's four quid mate if
you want it'.
The latter is an exampleof the dilemma of selling-out or compromisingthe ethical
commercialisation of punk, profiting from it and competing with other record shops
are the concerns at stake here. Indeed these are hotly contested debates within the
global punk and hardcore scenes and I will afford much more attention to these issues
in chapter nine. That said there was a constant trade-off with these issues whilst I was
a participant observer in the shop. This is not to say that there was a constant debate
credibility and integrity within the wider subcultural community48. Such a dilemma
also representsone of the difficulties that is at the heart of what can be termed ethical
2) ThePC
What became obvious within the shop was the occasional un-politically correct
comment that came from a Wisdom shop worker through his derogatory use of the
words 'gays' and 'faggots'. V had points of concern in tandem to the DiY ethical
to
prejudice, yet was also at pains renegeon his criticism of those who make such
made outside the shopwhilst one was on a cigaretteand tea break, and were aimed in
way. In similar ways to the club, suchviews were actively challengedby V. Here he
is explicit:
a lot of people in the scenethink it's a cool thing is to call someonea bendera faggot or
whatever and [other shop worker] used to say it loads and causeI kept sort of shouting
at"[other shop worker]" telling him he was out of order and in the end he's suggesteda
happy medium now wherehe now calls someonea 'bandit'. Well I can't say anything to
that you see, I know what he's saying but I can't say to him "[other shop worker]," and
he'll go "what? I didn't meanthat" It's like ok, well fuck it, I'm not gonnabother do you
know what I mean?
Such languagewas toleratedas a compromiseon the bounds of good humour and
BS demonstratedin the previous example this has the potential to also generate
control of the in
challenger: short a resistancetechniquegearedtowards 'challenging
the challenge.'
homophobic and sexist comments. Not all subculturalmemberswho visited the shop
was witnessed. One specific instanceof hatred towards the lin12 and its members
to
was conveyed me by a male customerin his early thirties over the counter in the
shop. He had come in to enquireas to whetherthere were any grindcore gigs coming
up in the near future. I informed him of such an event coming up at the club. The
responsewas telling, he said that 'there was nothing but a bunch of lefty politically
correct, dirty anarchistsand feminists that inhabited the place' and it wasn't 'real'
grindcore if it was held at the Club. I made an attempt to counter his view, stating
that that was a particularly 'heavy' point of view to espouseand asked if he'd ever
beenthere, to which he replied 'no'. I left it at that. This customer'suse of the term
revealing in that; views heavily critical of the DiY ethic of both Leedsand Bradford
Such points of view made by this customer obviously articulate the hated and
related categoryI detailed aboveand are in tandem with the commentsmade by Mr.
are common and to make suggestionsthat might alter such points of view: for
exampleby playing the grindcorebands' CDs scheduledto play the club assertingthat
they are worth checking out. My attempt to share information with this person
it
regardlessof whether or not was acceptedbecamea familiar practice in the shop.
Overall it was evidentthat there was a constanttrade off betweenthe ethical rule with
Beyond the retail role of the shop Out of Stepproved to be an important intersection
at gigs. The shop had two racks full of gig flyers and leaflets detailing mostly DiY
gigs and political activities, demos etc. in Leeds, Bradford and surrounding areas.
Large numbersof postersfor gigs also decoratedthe entranceto the shop. Another
dilemma arises in this section, again in the form ethical consumerism: is the shop
to
or retail business? Can a balancebe achieved? Such issuesare at the heart of an
sharing
ethical consumerism, its values with many of the ethical stancesoutlined in
chapter four. Information sharing is key to the survival of the DiY network and the
shop took its role very seriously in this respect. Two free UK fanzines, Cardiff s
amongst others, were neatly stacked up at the side of the counter and copies were
political line. 5o
be in keeping with the popular genresof their associatepeer grouping, although we,
hesitantly held back from the counter,keento be seento make the 'correct' purchase.
Some of the younger teens visited the shop with their parents who stood anxiously
waiting for their nervousyoung offspring to make a (correct) purchase. All appeared
authenticgenredistinction.
the shop as a social resource,both to catchup with the latest DIY sceneactivities and
50Indeedone the workers for Wisdom frequently
of commentedto me that RTB was void of a senseof
humor, stating that no one was really interestedin 'feminist physiotherapy'. He also describedmy
article in issueone on the origins of Mayday, sarcasticallyas a 'laugh a minute.' He statedthat it was a
pamphlet'specifically gearedto ftirthering the educationof the miserableand humorlesspunk police'.
potential routes to swell one's own authenticity in terms of genre distinction. The 'in'
talk and gestures made around the counter of the shop whilst 'new releases' were
playing, prior to the appropriate purchase being made, were concerned with the
appraisal of new bands, records, expressions of taste, band performances and past and
previous gigs, and who or what is involved in the present scene. Indeed the four key
the shop counter can often involuntarily intimidate younger members engagedin
genredistinction.
MY specific role here was to select and play such potential purchases,often being
asked questions like 'what's this like mateT Here one's own genre distinction is
brought into play. Not only was my own personaltaste compromisedhere; I also had
to offer a critical review and appraisalof a given record often very much at odds with
my own personal taste. Obviously, at the retail end of this dilemma, castigating a
customer's taste was not conducive to selling records in spite of how 'bad' I
On occasionthe shop becameso crowded around the counter that it was difficult
to serve customers.This presentedrole strain for myself, V and Z. On the one hand
there is the role of core subculturalmember,whose chief aim is integral to the ethical
difficulties in striking sucha balancewhich were causedby the lack of shop space:
Yeah like in someways it's hard. I meanwhat I would love if we could do it. I meanwe
have spokeabout all the different things that you can do. We could have sofasand stuff
and you could in someways Re open it up into more of a social areaand you know. I
mean I wantedto have a fridge and sell like drinks and stuff and have coffee and people
come down and read the fanzines and put 'em back if they don't want them and stuff.
Erm causeat the minute becausethe shop'sjust not big enough.Like you want to chat
with people and it's like peopledon't always appreciatethat sometimes. Recently it's not
beenthat busy, but sometimesyou got a lot to do and you can't spendan hour chatting to
someone. And becausethe shop'snot that big and they can'tjust have a seatand like sit
down with you sometimesit's actually quite an hindrancein someways to have loads of
people hanging round in the shop. Like, especially on a Saturdayyou get people all
round the countertalking to me and you and we're trying to servepeopleover the top, do
you know what I mean? I meanif it was a bigger shop then maybe we could do it, but
Re at the minute it's good 'causepeople do come in and it's like what are you doing and
what's on tonight and erm, and you can discussstuff and peoplecan meet. I meanpeople
will often come in the shop andjust standaround and you don't know who they are and
it's like 'alright thereT 'Yeah it's alright I've just arrangedto meet someonein here'.
And they'll [fricnd]come in and they'll be wearing a Misfits shirt or whateverand it's like
whoa, so the obviously, people [meet here] whether it's to talk about somethingactive or
whatever,or whether it is just as a meetingpoint, peopledo use it. And in someways it
would be really nice to really encourageit but at the minute we just can't do it because
the shop'sjust not big enough. But yeah, people definitely meet here and obviously we
have got free fanzineslike RTB and Fracture which we have always got loads of and we
always actively try and push it out to people. And obviously postersand shit like that.
But surprisingly there are a lot of peoplethat you considerto be actively involved in DiY
don't come in and you never ever see,and err, you think, it's not a 'big headed' thing to
say we are really important causereally we are nothing. I mean it's all relative and we
are not but, I still find it surprising that a lot of people haven't botheredto check us out.
It's like you don't know, you don't know what it's like there and, even if you hate it, come
down say it's shit and tell us and well you should do this and you should do this. They
don't and a lot of peoplehaven'teven turned up and it's like, I think it's quite weird. Not
making the most of the resourcesyou got know what I mean.
V clearly establishesthat Out of Step makes an active attempt to function beyond
that of simply a retail outlet and more of a social and critical space. It is a key
distinctive factor that they, as owners of the shop, can permit such gatherings even
is aware that some members of the DiY scene will view the shop as a capitalist
autonomouszonefor sharinginformation.
customers. This was not always the case and long periods of inactivity were also
one took on the investigation of genres and records not previously heard, thus
participation and practice within the punk subculture. This will be afforded detailed
discussionin chapternine.
Tlirough the daily reproduction of, and consistent, constant engagement and
As numerouspeople involved with the various punk subcultures in Leeds used the
shone through within a plurality of different punk scenesbeyond that of the evening
919.
experiencesof the Leeds shop. Within the latter account I have describeda social
space that is replete as a vehicle for the furtherance of primary and secondary
investigation, the subcultural trade in genre distinction and the occasional 'counter
snobbery' it invokes. The second key observationof this section has outlined the
so evidentat the Club discussedin chapterfour (due in part to the lack of contactwith
also in terms of the practice of ethical consumerism: the trade off between the
What was evident in the daily discourseof the shop and the numbersof flyers and
posterson the walls was the amountof gigs and festivals that occurred around Leeds
and at the Club. The practice of the DiY punk gig is the arenato which I now focus
Gigs, EveningsandAfternoons
In chapter four and the previous section I mentionedthat the lin12 and Leeds have
long-standing and detailed history that is beyond the scope of the present work.
in the pubs from the early 1980s,and by 1988had managedto securea council grant
to purchaseits own building, finally opening its doors in 1990: it still exists at the
equal footing to Bradford, though this has mainly been located within a multi-venue
scenario. Although one of the most popular venuesin Leeds at the time and a regular
most of the city's punk eventswere held in a number of city pubs, squats,university
Within the window of my ethnography,the venues may have changed and the
subcultural scene populations fluctuated over the years, but since the 1990s,
Available'
VariablePrint Quality
Bradford's focus for DiY has been the linl2, while Leeds has remained centred in a
multi-venue scenario. During the fieldwork I went to and played over eighty shows in
a single four month period. These gigs were unequally spread (in the order of Leeds,
From the venue distribution of the above table one needn't labour the point of Leeds
as a multi-sited subcultural scene enclave. The DiY gig will now be examined, along
As the epigraph at the start of this chapter dernonstrates, the central underlying
principles outlined in chapter four that operate under all of the following mechanics of
the DiY concert is mutual trust between promoters and performers, freedom from
wider external corporate controls, and the enjoyment and satisfaction frorn
successfully organising such events. This is a direct parallel to the studio prQject.
Indeed, what distinguishes such events from their mainstream counterparts is that
there is no legally binding contract supplied by the band, no guarantee of payment for
rather loose natureof the organisation. All the associatedactivities are carried out by
promoters are not interestedin making a profit from the proceedsof the gig. Any
money made will be channelled across three potential destinations: to the bands
playing on the night; to a charity or a suitably deemed political cause; into the
promoter's fund it
where will be to
used supportand finance less well attendedor less
during the fieldwork were numerous. To name a small number: Sakari Empire,
Punktured, Raw Nerve, Bingo Handjob, Infinite Monkey, Armed With Anger,
Enslaved, Heavier Than Thou, Devil Rock, Flat Earth, Kito, Cops and Robbers,
members. Somehave existed for years such as Cops and Robberswhilst others may
The whole event is run on a senseof trust betweenthe promoter, band, venue and
audience. The central considerationof putting on the music event for its own sake,
devoid of the profit motive, for the satisfactionin creating a DiY event, is the motor
that drives the DiY hardcorepunk ethic and this practice operatesin tandemwith the
51This is
a rather optimistic and untainted view of DiY gig promotion, but nevertheless one that was
reflected in the ethnographic data. Both from my own previous experience, and that of my
counterparts, some of the DiY gigs I have been involved in have been badly promoted, bands have not
been paid, and some of the more unscrupulous promoters the benefit have occasionally lined
of concert
their own pockets with the proceeds.
Gordon PhD
Booking
In terms of booking the DiY gig is a central aspectof practice within DiY hardcore
punk culture and forms a central componentof the social fabric of the scene. In spite
national DiY network through a phone call, message,band website, and email or
either from reading a favourable fanzine review and gig reviews, a band will be
by
contacted one of the promotersand askedto do a show. During the majority of
such instances,
a representativeof the band is contactedthrough one or more of the
abovepoints of contact and askedif they want to play a show on a given date. After
a
agreement, date is set up (usually, though not necessarily,as part of a tour) and a
potential venue selected for the estimated audience number. During the time of
and Bradford.
The lin]2
private promoters. Bandsare bookedthrough the gig collective which takesall events
is then booked for which a hire charge is incurred for the PA while all the door
to
proceedsare used pay the bands. Bar staff are scheduledon a rota-basisand the
is
caf6 openedup so that bandscan be fed.
a number of problems for those in Leeds to travel to the gigs. This is an issue that I
to
will return at the end of this sectionon DiY gigs. The lin12 owns its own PA and
the alcohol licence offers later drinking opportunities than the pub. There are two
bars in the club, one in the venueand one on the secondfloor. The bandsare fed in
the cafd on the top floor where food is also available to those attending the gig.
Attendance at the club can approach two hundred and fall to as little as single
that have run since 1990 running for three days and attracting the heart of the UKs
around the and offer an opportunity for newcomersto be introduced to the DiY ethic
I can't rememberthe exact,time I first went the I in 12, it was like a festival in February,
March or something. It was Bob Tilton, StampingGround. It was back in the day when
emo kids went like that [gestures,laughter],exactly and that was like the first time I went
to the I in 12, and I went there and I was like, HOLY FUCK! There was like all these
stalls with like CD's for like 16 eachand I was like you are joking me. You know I was
usedto paying like whateverf. 15 in HMV and I rememberspendingmy food budget for
the entire month on Chokehold CD's at the I in 12 the first time I went. And I just got
more into it from there on, you know I went to more and more shows and then I started
travelling out to shows as well and just got involved with more and more people, then
eventually it was like, I'm gonna' put on a show and I think I was like seventeen,I was
like just seventeenwhen I put on my first show.
Gordon PhD
Here this importanceof the lin12 festival is outlined in terms of how newcomers
can gradually approachcore member status. Equally interesting is the way Mr. G
invokes the use of the authentic original and badgesof membershipin terms of the
'back in the day' and use of band genres,'emo'. This importantly signifies how genre
kids danced at the festival. The lin12 festival operatesas a focal point to the
R points out:
It's usually on a Sundayat a festival. There is a general,or there usedto be, this feeling
of unity. You had a lot of people that you liked from everywhere. I am looking at early
to mid-ninetiesand you'd havepeoplefrom Manchesterand peoplefrom Glasgow would
come down and people would come and go. You know my girlfriend now was one of
those people that used to come over from Manchester. We would have a lot of people
coming over and staying at our house and then you'd be going for Special Brew on a
Sunday morning with. And then getting up going to the 1in12: and going "let's get
fucked up" and then getting fucked up with friends down the club again for anotherday
of the festival and seeing loads of friends and it being a nice day.
of the Leeds and Bradford scenes. The lin12 festival operatesas a meeting point: a
critical space where socialising, record trading/buying, bands playing and new
contacts projects formed in addition to drinking having a good time. These were
deemedto be the good times at the I in 12 and why all the hard work the membersand
promotersput in to both the building and the eventspay are deemeda success.All of
It's the cleaningup after it that you have got to do as well. But I mean,going back to the
heavy fest thing. We were tidying up afterwardsand I wasjust pushing a broom round
the floor, half drunk, totally stonedout me head, collecting glasses,brushing the floor.
And I am doing, oh God, filthy, mundanetasks and I am fucking on cloud nine doing it.
But it is part of the whole, what's involved in doing it, but you haven't finished yet and
then it's like: the room is cleaned;all the glassesare put away. You are stood at the door
and the room is empty and it looks exact, it looks like nothing has happened,but again,
like you say, you can't take away the things that you have done and you lock the door,
turn your back on it and have a fucking grin a mile wide.
These accounts underline the feelings of satisfaction I illustrated regarding the
the record shop up and running above. This feeling of satisfaction was a general
theme of the interviews. However, whilst the festivals are well attended,there are a
number of lin12 eventsthat suffer from a lack of attendance. This is an issue that I
The overall mechanicsof gig organisation at the lin12 operatealong the lines of
what I will articulate below in terms of the organisationof the Leeds shows. The
of the spaceand accessto the other facilities, such as the caf6, in the building. That
said the lin12 suffers as a result of the popularity of the Leeds shows and an exodus
eight
There are a number of similarities betweenthe lin12 gigs and the Leeds DiY events
held in the back and upstairsrooms of pubs. Such venuesare detailed above in fig I
and all continue in operationin 2004. The degreeof control is reduced,though all of
the venues I visited desistedfrom employing door staff or intervening in the DiY
In
event. spite of this, the promoter has to operatethe event within the openinghours
of the pub and adhereto the general rules of the venue. The pub gig itself usually
The promoter arrives with the food for the bandsand the PA has beenloaded in by
van at their disposal. As the bandsplaying the bill arrive, their equipmentis loaded
whether there is a full or vocal PA being used at the pub gig. In the case of the
former, the sound engineer sets up and tests the PA and proceedsto set up all the
The sound check usually occurs in reverseorder with the last band playing checking
first. In the caseof the vocal PA, the band uses their backline as the only form of
amplification. The vocals and, on occasion,the bassdrum of the kit are put through
the PA. This type of PA is mostly usedin the cellar, pub and squat shows I attended
in Leeds.
In terms of equipmentit is not always convenientor possible for a band to bring all
their equipment. It is usually the casethat in the caseof a touring band playing will
have brought all their backline53 In the case of local bands one band will usually
.
agreeto lend the drum kit and speakercabinetsto the other bandsplaying in order to
The order of the bandsis settledby the sequencein which they are advertisedon the
of occasions I observed bands arriving immediately before they are due to play.
There are three main reasonsfor this: band members' work commitmentspreventing
them from leaving in sufficient time to arrive early for the gig; lack of clear directions
often feel uncomfortable with the headline spot due to the ideological connotations
53The
collective word usedfor drum kit speakercabinetsand amplifiers.
or secondon the bill in order to disrupt the assumedhierarchy and importanceof the
last band to play54 The period of sound checking also allows band members,
.
promoters and friends the opportunity to meet and socialise. Indeed,I observedthis
space to be central in the future planning and sharing of ideas for future DiY
and political issuesand gossipcurrently debatedin the scene. Coupledwith this there
is also the opportunity for touring bandsto explore the city with local band members
The majority of touring bands will bring a distro stall with them. Short for
distribution, this stall contains a number of the current bands' recorded output and
previous DiY 55
record. releasesin addition to fanzines, flyers and band merchandise
(hand printed T-shirts, badges,patchesand stickers) with some of the bigger stalls
carrying well over a thousand CDs and records. In keeping with the DiY gig
admissionprices, all the items sold on the distribution stall have their prices kept as
low as possible. Such stalls, asidefrom the sound checking and promoter activities,
are anothercentral focus of activity throughoutthe temporal zone of the gig. They act
7" vinyl are thumbed though, discussedand inspectedby band membersand those
are made. In addition to this, the discussionof the latest releaseswith the stall-holder
54 This
scenario occurred in August, 2001 in Hilversum, Holland, when the well-known DiY band,
Seein' Red, insistedon playing before my band and donatedtheir pay that night as they heardwe were
struggling financially on that tour. They summedthis up through their actions that night for the all of
my band why mutual aid in DiY deservesrespect.
55 See
the Scorched Earth policy website for further details of how distros operate.
http://Www.scorchedearthpolicy. de/ http://www. letbulletsrain.de/
for
searching or to securetrades 56
of recentreleases .
Overall the distro stall also functions as a back-up for touring bands to accrue to
lighten the costsof being on the road, or in generalfor the non-touring bandsto make
some money for their respectiveband funds. The presenceof the distro stall, in both
of the field I
settings observed,numberedfrom none to over eight (usually at 1in12 or
all day festivals in the UK). Occasionally,when there are a number of bandsplaying,
there is competition for a pitch for the stall and this can generateinter-band tension.
Bands arriving late, when the venue is small, often struggle to find spacefor their
stall. Overall the distro, stall operates in very similar terms to Out of Step genre
the shop. The stall asthe site of potential new subculturalknowledgealso tradesupon
From around 8pm the audiencebegins to arrive. Audience numbers are dependent
upon what I have identified as three inter-linked issues. Firstly, the thoroughnessof
the promotion for the event is a key factor in the latter's success. If there have been
Secondly,the popularity of the band is a key factor. If one of the bandson the bill
has received good reports in fanzinesand record reviews and has the word of mouth
reputationof being a good act, people will turn up and supportthe event. Also, if the
band has built up a large, local baseof friends, this also acts as a catalyst for support.
Thirdly, specific to the Leedsscene,there are, on occasion,more than one DiY gig in
56Trading is key
a activity on the distro,stall. This is how a numberof new DiY recordsare distributed
and sold. However, not all tradesare agreedand trade priceshave to be negotiated.
were up to three separateDiY events on one night. In addition to these three core
as lack of financial capital, other personal commitments, and the summer months
Overall, the dedicationof the core membersof the sceneultimately meansthat there
participants will attend events due to their familiarity, not with a specific band but
instead with a band's associationwith a specific musical genre and scene. It is not
for
uncommon audiencemembersto have not heardthe bandsplaying. Attendanceis
to,
and adherence supportof the DiY ethic.
Audience numbers I observed ranged from fifteen people to over three hundred at
the bigger events organised by both Cops and Robbers and Collective AKA in Leeds
and the Bradford festivals (although a lower, maximum turnout during the field period
of 150 can be reported). The DiY pub gig usually contains anything from five to over
a hundred people. An important point to note here is that the scene in both settings is
male-dominated though not in the patriarchal sense of male domination: women are
constant feature. I estimated that female participation both in audience promotion and
band membership was in the minority with an estimated 1-5 ratio of female-to-male
57SeeLeblanc(2001).
in this culture.
underrepresented
The main activities of the audience,promoters and band membersbefore the gig
straightedgepeople within this culture, soft drinks are consumedand the activity of
socialising around the bar is common to both Leedsand Bradford. A number of the
smaller venues in Leeds have a separatebar from the concert venue and this is a
contributing factor in the amount of people who attend the gig. I observeda small
number of people who would just socialisein the bar and not pay to get into the gig.
Common to the majority of gigs attendedin the field setting the doors openedaround
8pm. As I noted abovethere were exceptionsto this with the late arrival of bandsand
sectionsof backline having to be brought in. In all casesthere is a table set up at the
door of the venue. On the table are variousflyers and fanzinesadvertising future DiY
events. On a piece of paper, written on with magic marker is the entry price as
documentedabove. The money is taken and placed in a 'cash box' and in return a
hand stampor marker imprint is madeon the back of the hand. Paymentat the door is
high a door price then accusationsof selling out and 'cashing in' can be levelled at
them by those membersof the community that consider this a betrayal of core DIY
free, I'm skint', tend to occur frequently at weekendshows;often later in the evening,
when people are more likely to be drunk. When the venue is full or the time
approachesfor the first band to play the event.begins and proceedsin much the same
smaller DiY eventsthat are consideredto be the most authenticversion of the DiY gig
The smaller promoters were core membersof the Leeds and Bradford subcultures.
band themselves,or had previously releasedor distributed a record for the band
lin12 that ran from the mid nineties, promoted by a multitude of different DiY
promoters such as Armed with Anger, Flat Earth, El Sub, Enslaved to Infinite
Monkey and Heavier Than Thou. The smallerDiY promoter usedeither the 1in12 or
120Rats.
Regardlessof the size of the gig, the promoter of the event is deemedresponsible
for publicising the event through the use of posters, flyers and adverts. Flyers are
generally constructed following punk tradition utilising 'cut and paste' and xerox
methods although the word processorreplete with printer and internet accesshas
somewhat changed the aesthetic of these flyers over the last decade". Such
an information contact phone number. At any given gig there will be a number of
bandsplaying and this rangesfrom one two to ten bandsdependentupon the for the
58 Turcotte
and Miller (1999) have written an excellent historical account of the US punk flyer
tradition.
the bandsmay make their own flyers. I observedin both the field settingsthat flyers
and posterswere placed in all the key sites such as shops(Out of Step, Jumbo and
Crash and the flyer racks at the linl2) in addition to the venuesa month to three
weeks before the event takesplace and are placed there by the promoter. Fly posting
own event and either handingout flyers or placing them on the table where money is
In the Leedssetting the Cops and RobbersDiY listings guide is utilised and usedas
a key resourcewithin the DiY scene. Failure to placea listing or to advertisean event
in this free publication can have a marked effect upon attendancerates at the show.
Within the two fieldwork sitesthe band is occasionallyfed a basic meal and provided
59
with an optional sleepingplace . As I noted above, in terms of money the band and
promoter operating under the rubric of DiY do not ask for 60.
a guarantee The core
DiY ethic of keeping events costs low and accessiblefor the low waged operates
simultaneously with the practice rejecting the profit motive as the sole factor for
putting on the event. Indeed regardlessof playing the event the bandsinvolved will
their transport and fuel costsmet in addition with a small amount if any money after
the gig. Gig entranceprices range from the Leeds pub and linl2 gigs at E2-4 to the
59The
practice of feedingbandsand providing sleepingplacesto touring and bandsthat are playing in
Bradford and Leedsis a DiY tradition that seeksto producea senseof support and community to those
on the road. This practice did not occur at all the gigs observedbut was occasionedat the ma ority.
Vegetarianand veganfood was provided in all cases. SeeV's dilemmabelow.
60 With
the exceptionof Collective AKA describedabove.
GOrdonPhD 203
The cost and conductof both the promoter and bandsand audienceat DiY gigs is a
in the relevantsectionbelow
Within this sectionI shall accountfor eachof the venuesand gigs I visited and what
Aside from the larger Cops and Robbers and Collective AKA gigs, the smaller DiY
gigs held at the 120Rats and the squat can be described as a 'temporary autonomous
zone' (Bey, 1985; McKay, 1996: 156,1998: 139). Bey and McKay use this term to
refer to the spaces for countercultural activity that are independent of official control
and surveillance. Such spaces operate beyond the control of the established authority
of the gig held in a licensed venue. Whilst the lin12 Club could once have neatly
fitted into such a definition, with its C&R-esque style gigs in a series of pubs and
public spaces, its TAZ status is revoked by its adoption of a permanent building,
along with its legal connections to the independent breweries and alcohol licence
provision. The three TAZs I identified, during the field work in Leeds, were the front
room and cellar show, the 120Rats squat, and occasional gigs in addition to the Aspire
collective gigs and rave events (not covered in the field work or discussed in the
61
present work).
Cellar showsare specific to Leeds,although in the global DiY community they are a
2003). The domesticenvironmentof the living room and the functional setting of the
reflects the intense competition for booking venues in Leeds. Most of these are
booked up for months in advancedue to the popularity of the scene. Last minute
cancellationsor the unavailability of any venue resultedin the DiY solution of a cellar
gig. The areasof Royal Park, Burley Park and Headingley have large amounts of
point I'll return to in the final sectionof this chapter),they also provide spaceswhere
small DiY eventsand partiesmay occur. During the field work I attendedat leastfour
a mesh-backcap) was passedaround for donationsto cover the costs of the bands.
Bands often sold their merchandiseout in the street,while people brought their own
ccarry-out' alcohol and often congregatedin the street waiting for the gig to begin.
Around thirty to fifty people attend such gigs and more (occasionally approaching
potential. For weekday gigs, a number of the neighbourswere duly alerted. There
62Specifically here I
was at a Creation is Crucifixion cellar show in late September2001, where they
were discussingthe dangerof a rise in surveillancetechnology. When I spoketo the guitarist outside,
he informed me he was very into reading Foucault and gave me two of the bandsCDs; one containeda
200 pagebooklet on how to rewire a game-boyas a hacking device.SeeCreationas Crucifixion: Child
asAudience: WhereTechnologyandAnarchy Fuck. Rtmark, AutonomediaCollective.
playing short sets, and end before Ilpm in conformity with licensing laws, though
people did sometimeslinger the vicinity after the shows. The actual playing of the
gig was a very crampedand sweatyaffair with upwardsof thirty peoplein a cellar.
The intensity of loud, amplified punk music in a cellar instilled an exciting senseof
risk. Whilst the band played, core members nodded at each other in
the band at all. When dancing occurred,the intensity of the music increased,though
those who did so took account not to hurt other people in the crowd, while people
shoved at the back of the room tended to take this is good humour. There was no
need for a full PA becauseof the confined and crowded area. This was a face-to-face
event. The lack of division between band and audience, more often than not
G: It was Pete's 25th birthday and we had a flyer on the door. He went out for a meal
and I madean excusethat we couldn't go and we set it all up: we hired a PA and then he
turned up and there was a band playing and 30 kids in our front room and it was fucking
awesome.
Int: shouldtherebe more front room shows?
G: Definitely, they are brilliant! You can't beat gigs with small atmospherescausethey
are just so intimate. SometimesRe when it is your friend's bands and stuff, you get
stoked on seeingthem play to a lot of people at big shows and stuff, you know what I
mean,but you can't beatthe intimacy of small shows,definitely. (Pseudonymmine)
As G enthusiasticallynoted, the cellar gigs are highly regardedand respectedin the
what can be achieved when the conventional spacesfor playing music in Leeds
The secondarea that operatedunder the TAZ banner was the120Rats squat on the
MeanwoodRoad in Leeds. This was a squatthat existed for over eight yearsand was
host to a large numberof DiY gigs in the Leedsarea. In many ways it was the closest
venue in Leeds to the linl2. There are a number of mutual points of association
betweenthe Club Members and the squatters(as mentioned in chapter five; further
elaboration follows in the final section of this chapter). The squat was a clear
example of what can be achieved through the DiY ethic. They held gigs most
Bands who come to play the I in 12 can come to play here, too. Most squatsin Europe,
the way they do it is, like, if you play in a band you get a drink and food and
accommodation. We have the spaceto do that too. Bandswho tour England have a shit
time - no food, no money. At least here all the money will go to the band and we'll
makethem food. (Wakefield and GnTt, 1995)
The squat hosted both hardcoreand punk gigs during its existence.Most of these
were friendly, yet chaotic and often drunken events. As with the cellar shows,there
was a sharp intensity and raw integrity, although the venue only held around seventy
while the acousticsof the low ceiling gave an excellent sound to the bands. The
painted mural walls and run-down, yet somehow holding-it-together aesthetic, all
gave the impression that one was not actually in the UK but based somewherein
mainland Europe. The gigs I played and attendedthere during the field work were all
benefit concerts for the pending eviction.63 As with the cellar gigs, people
Occasionally,there was a fire in a large oil drum with people standingaround it, the
64
off-licence (also a squattedproperty) did fair trade from those arriving for the gig
.
All the bandswereprovided with a basic veganmeal and somecansof beer. The gigs
little as fl. 50 entranceand El a drink. These were in sharp contrast to the other
Collective AKA and C&R gigs I shall describebelow. Drinking and partying often
went on into the early hours and beyond at the squat. Here is an account from my
Gradually, as the evening progressed,people beganto arrive. Mat was once an empty
room beganto be filled with people awaiting the night's entertainmentwith the average
age ranging from sixteen to the late forties. Various stalls beganto be set up in which
DiY hardcoreand punk records,CD's and fanzineswere sold well below the established
price of the mainstreamrecordsshops. As the two other bandsarrived and one after the
other, they plugged in and began to play. Even without a large PA systemthe music was
loud and people beganto settle into the night's entertainment. Around the bar people
gatheredsocially, whilst otherssat on the sofas. The room wherethe bandswere playing
was beginningto get full.
The entrance fee for the nights was L2, well below the established price of a
mainstreameventwhich runs from L7430. This would be usedto pay the bandspresent
and any remainingmonieswould be usedto pay for the promotion and upkeepof similar
events. Whilst milling around,I estimatedthat there were approachingseventypeople in
this small building. When we took to the stageafter I Ipm, the dancingbeganin earnest.
63This feeling
wasproducedthrough the experienceof the FrenchCanadiansquatterswho were mostly
responsiblefor the maintenanceof the building. They had extensiveexperienceof the EuropeanDiY
punk squattingnetwork of which the 120Ratsis a reflection of. SeeWakefield and GM-t (1995)
64 The
squatting tradition in Leeds is known as the Lawton Loophole, named after a landlord who
disappearedin the late eightiesleaving numerouspropertiesaroundLeedsopento squat. This allowed
people to live rent free. A number of these people have now legally inherited the buildings. The
120Rats,including the block of over five large houses,takeaways,off-licensesand shops,are all part of
this loophole. However one member of the Lawton family sought the repossessionin 2000 of a
number of thesepropertiesand the squatwas evicted in Oct 2001. It is in 2005 still presentlyboarded
up.
up the ethic and aestheticof the DiY gig at the squat. The bandsthat played there in
2001 ranged across the genres available in the Leeds and Bradford, though the
intact. This division was most evident betweena benefit show comprised of eclectic
hardcore bands and a series of squat benefit gigs strictly comprised of punk bands
those in the DiY community to contribute to and control their own space. During the
field work core membersrepeatedlyreferred to both 'Rats gigs' and cellar shows as
truly authentic DiY punk, yet there other interpretations of DiY worthy of
consideration.
Copsand Robbers
the size of the promotion groups is broadly reflective of club bookings. There are,
C&R is run by a collective of ten people: eight men and two females. They have
Leeds. To namea select few, the Royal Park, Brudenell Social Club, The Packhorse,
The Fenton,Joseph'sWell and their gigs mainly operatewithin the pub gig remit I
describedabove.Their point of departurefrom DiY punk per se, however, is that they
also work both with larger non-DiY promotion agenciesand bands from outside the
independentand major labels althoughthey insist that the band operatesunder a DiY
framework for the duration of the show. This ethosis illustrated frequently repeatedly
The gigs advertisedin Cops and Robbersare all DiY to some degree. That is all door
takings go to cover the costsinvolved in promoting the event. The promotersdon't take a
cut for themselves. Not all the bands are necessarilyDiY, some may have managers,
have major label involvement or music pressconnections,but at least by playing a DiY
gig they are forced to prescribeto this idea for one evening at least and your money isn't
going to support an industry basedupon competition and back-stabbingsuccess(Cops
and Robbers # 9, October 1998).
Here legal contractsadvancedto bandsare ignored. They usually get the payment
the collective unless they can reasonablypredict that the gig will generateenough
money for such large coststo be covered. In the event that costscannotbe met these
are made up from either the kitty drawn from the more successfulgigs or from
We always try to cover bands costs as much as we can. Unless of course there's no
money at the gig and even then we give them money as much as we can and we get it
back from the later gigs.
criticism both within the punk and hardcore and Bradford sceneswith members
levelling the sell-out criticism, an issue I shall discuss below. C&R advance DiY
they choose to build the DiY ethic into the fabric and practice of the event. In
contrast to the linl2, political sloganeeringis not a regular feature of a C&R gig.
This goes to the heart of some of the reciprocal perceptionsbetweenthe Leeds and
Bradford DiY scenes. During a focus group interview with the collective one of the
You have radical, protest groups or whatever pushing the boundaries and changing
society in one way and well you know making you know just pushing the boundaries
basically. Then they seemto isolatethemselvesa lot from the rest of society becauseand
there is like a massivekind of gap that needsto be bridged. I'd like to think of C&R
maybe as kind of making and bridging that gap aptly and working from the bottom up
maybe. I don't know whetherit will ever get us anywhere.
Such distinctions penneatethe discourseof the Leeds and Bradford scenesand this
is an issue to which I will return in the last section of this chapter. For now their
respective scenes. Beyond the aesthetic and political differences of the bands
promoted, C&R is
organisation similar to that of the lin12. For example,promotion
when it comes down to putting on a gig erm, like err, like someonewithin Cops and
Robberswill be askedto do a gig or the C&R will be emailedand someonelike me, Bert
or John will take up the role of like organising that gig and this just involves asking
people to do various stuff. I meanI am usually askedto do the PA. Maybe Rebeccaor
Walter or someonewill be askedto drive. I dunno the person that's kind of given or
taken it upon themselvesto organisethe gig and organisethe postersand makesthe food
and gets all the peopleto help out and ask people to you know do their bits and pieces.
But they are generallythe personin chargeof doing that.
other DiY event in the area.Their popularity and influence in the Leeds sceneis high
and their eventsare well attended. Though they promote and stagea number of the
larger DiY eventsin Leeds,they are not the only large DiY promotions collective in
Leeds.
Five peoplewere involved in Collective AKA: four malesand one female. This is the
other main DiY collective promotions agency in Leeds. Formed in 1995 as Out of
Spite, before amalgamatingwith Mr. V and a friend moving over from Manchester
three years later, they changedtheir nameto Collective AKA. At the time of the field
work, they organised gigs at the Leeds venues Joseph's Well and the night Club
known as the Bassment. Mr. V from Out of Step, at the time of interview in 2001,
shop and through feelings of a distanceover core ethical issuesof control and DiY.
Unlike Cops and Robbers,the collective agreedto use legal band contracts and pay
use
guarantees; venuesthat employ bouncersand chargehigher admissionprices than
C&R. Whilst not overtly DiY, a numberof their ethical punk principles are enshrined
in Out of Spites' promotional practices, such as feeding the bands vegan food only
and not buying products such as Coca Cola, providing, instead,generic alternatives;
to be removedfrom the DiY ethic in terms of the authenticityof the smaller eventsof
Leeds and lin12 events. At the time of writing they were mainly promoting large
rock, also attractingscorn from DiY core memberswho viewed such genresand their
people and the door prices of around f.5-8 reflected this. On the ethical position of
this collective, V's resignationwas also over issuesof artistic control. He considered
I associatethe politics and the outlook on life so much with the music and they are both
intertwined and to say oh hardcore'sfucking bollocks, I'd be a fucking empty shell. But
I am starting to. Like with the gigs, I meanyou get a load of bandscoming through the
tour bookers. They say do you want to put this band on and you go 'no I don't' but if I
don't put theseon I can't put the next band on that I do like, therefore you are kind of
forced into doing it. And then when you turn up to a gig no bandsyou want to seeand
people will turn up, pay in, watch the band and go home. And you think fucking that's
not punk. I meanwhat's that, that's fucking, it could be Oasisor somethingelse, it's not
what I enjoy. I've beendoing it for quite a while now and you get great gigs in-between
but there's too much of that and you think well, my time could be so much better spent
becauseI come home I don't eat any dinner, I go straight to a gig err, I often put up a
band,go to bed late get up for work. Do you know what I mean,It's like well no I've got
to stop doing it becausethere are so many people that are doing it, I don't make a
difference really do you know what I mean, anybody can do it. And if worse case
everybody stops doing it then someoneelse can say right well I'm gonna put on gigs.
It's like well there's always going to be someoneto fill the gap hopefully. Well it is like
realistically that is something I don't need to do. I mean I achieved the only thing I
wanted to do in Leeds, which was put on a couple of bands that I know weren't gonna'
play here, and I though no I'm gonna do it then. And also erm, the fact now that a lot
more bands are being offered, previously been offered the bigger clubs, and becausewe
are getting the bigger crowds we can afford to. I mean like it's a whole thing really. I
meansomebandssay we are only going to do two datesin the country. Oh there's this
band, New End Original, and they did two datesI think, London and Leeds causethey
weren't even gonna come to the UK. But because they said well we can do it but we'll
need E350 per gig to cover the ferry and all that. I was like yeah well we can do that
causeit was two membersof Texas is The Reasonand a member of Chamberlainand a
member of Arc, and I was like yeah we can come up with that do you know what I
mean?
Such dilemmasare difficult for those concernedand V was visibly anxious over this
field notes of the Hot Water Music Collective AKA show illustrates the stark
16/06/011join our drummer,Mick, and a few othersin the queuefor this sold out show.
I note that this is the first time I have had to do this for a hardcoreshow in someyears.
The queueis comprisedmostly of young, white people. And the majority of the 'kids'
are obviously into hardcore. Ile dresscodesare baggyjeans, short, cropped hair, band
the two. The high door charges,inflated merchandiseprices and rip-off beer prices
are illuminated in comparisonto DiY prices of less than half the amountscharged.
were policed insteadof being self-policed. All of the bouncers,venues,DJs, bar staff
and venue overheadshave to be paid for and this results in higher ticket prices. The
chose. The band was paid a guaranteeand employed staff such as, road crew, driver
the gig (estimatedat 350), the intimacy and familiarity of core memberswas swept
or whatever means are drawn upon in setting up a DiY musical event, the most
exclusion from gigs they regard as fake and inauthentic. The further and abiding
problem is then createdby the absolutist definitions of authenticity that reside at the
core- which brings us back to the key thematic of the whole thesis
From its inception in the early 1980s,the lin12 experienceda constant struggle to
recruit and retain core members. From the late-1990sthe popularity of the Leeds
affinities with lin12 members,the number of Leeds gigs has created a knock-on
effect for the club. Aside from the club hardcorefestivals,the club facednear closure
attendedgigs in the midst of the wider, perceived contextof what they often described
multi-sited Leeds scene.Bradford gigs, more specifically the weekday club events,
and those where the sameband had a duplicate show in Leeds,sufferedbadly. Mr. I
attendingthe 120Ratsgig:
sometimesyou try to arrangean event here, I'm not like that causeI never arrangean
event here 'cos I hate doing it and I am not that good at doing it. SometimesI'm
involved in an event here and you need some of the familiar facesto help out and you
kind of go "can you do something?" and they go "oh no, you know there's a cider party
at the 120Rats tonighf', And you think that everyone's going to some burned out old
building to get pissedwhen they could do that in a town wherethey live. So, you know,
if I am honestthat pissesme off a little bit, But you know there must be enoughpeople
in Leeds already to have a cider party of their own without sucking all of our people
away.
In short, multi-sited Leedssappedthe energiesof both the organisersand audience
at the lin12. Lcedsmemberswho attemptedto show solidarity and attend club events
busesback to Leeds. They often had to forego the last band in favour of a bus or train
journey. This proved frustrating. Those who remainedoften had to find lifts back to
Leeds from thosewho had driven to the club. Car use was a relatively limited luxury
It was statedby a large number of Leeds people during interview that it would be
beneficial to move the lin12 over to Leeds: all of its problemswould be solved. Mr.
G makesthis clear:
G: I always walk past derelict factories in the centreof town and I just look at it and go.
If only: you know, so the I in 12: a fucking brilliant club, but the problem it suffers from
is that it is in Bradford. If it was in Leeds, causethere's so many more kids in Leeds,
than In Bradford, it would do so much better, but people, a lot of the time, people don't
6-1Such issues
are afforded closeattentionin chaptereight. It cannotbe understatedthat this is just one
issue that brought about the crisis at the Iinl2. Wider issues of costs and maintenanceof an
increasinglyageingbuilding addedadditional pressuresamongmany others.
G: I think to be honestit probably stemsfrom going to too many gigs there wherethere's
no one, with a really low turnout and as a result the gigs tend to be boring, and probably
too much time spentnot doing anything. I meanwhen you have beento a lot of festivals
or, 'causeI mean shows at the I in 12 always seemto start really late as well and if you
get there on time Spmand the show doesn't start 'till I Opmyou end up hanging around
for a couple of hours and the amount of time I spent hanging around. I mean you can
think of a lot of worse places to spendhanging around, but when you go to somewhere
for a show and you are looking forward to seeingthe band you know what I mean, it's
like any time you have to wait once you get there is kind of like an agonisingwait time.
It's not like WOW I'm in a cool club I could go use the library like you might do
normally, it's just a bit like there's this band on I wanna seeplaying in two hours and it
puts you in a different mindset I think to an extent. Erin, and I think just the amount of
time I spentthere, sometimesit just feels like the I in 12 is boring. And I feel bad saying
that becausethe I in12 has so many good things going for it and I love the club, it's just
becauseit is in Bradford I think becauseI havebeento that many deadshowsthere.
I will develop the issue of why lin12 members exit the club in the following
chapter. The quotes from Mr. I and G illustrate a larger issue that loomed large in
DiY punk discourseand action during two yearsleading up to the fieldwork period of
2001. The identities and perceptionsof the Leeds and Bradford scenesbeganto take
DiY punk ethics. The history of the lin12 is connectedto the anarcho,punk ethical
66The
club has recoveredsomewhatsince this period of crisis. There have been a large number of
successfulshowsthere during the last three years,althoughthe occasional'dead-show' does,inevitably
occur.
outlined in detail both of thesepositions in broad terms during chapter four and also
is
scene occasionallyviewed by core membersfrom both of the respectivesidesas a
mostly on criticisms of placing responsibility on those who left the Bradford scenefor
weakeningthe strengthof the club, they equally cast scorn upon those Leeds members
who never attendthe club's weekdayevents,or who visit the club and misinterpretthe
core beliefs of the place. During the interviews, six core members of the Bradford
describedas 'posh', full of 'poseurs,' 'posy', 'expensive' and 'beautiful'. The catch-
-
all term for the scene was 'Ladida Leeds.' These two membership badges, 'Ladida
Leeds' and 'Bradford Scum', are relative to the wider economic contexts of the two,
decrepit city in permanent recession by the Bradford interviewees, whereas Leeds was
observed as cosmopolitan, trendy, nice and clean. 'Me scope of the research and
insufficient space restrict full discussion of the wider economic and cultural status of
the two cities, yet it is obvious that such status is of central importance in shaping how
67There
notedhere were
was significantoverlapbetweenthe specificscenes. The observations
betweenthecoremembersof the I in12,andtheir counterparts
in Leeds.
contrastto the way they refer to people on the Leeds scene. By using this term as a
becomeonce again fully burnishedand bright: you can't be a properpunk if you listen
The differences between anarcho punk and hardcore were outlined in detail in
politics of liberation, solidarity and challenging social oppression. In short, its chief
achievedthrough the DIY politics of the club. Leedswas perceivedas I noted above
choosing subtle methods that avoid direct political preaching. The difference was
Such divisions are clearly reflected in musical genre differences. Bradford was
associatedwith basic thrash, crust and grind music that was fast, noisy and 'pissed
umbrella with its multi-genre and quirky approachthat has proved to be very popular
there.
potentially harm the diversity betweenand within the Leedsand Bradford scenesand
on and reproducedby both Bradford and Leeds subcultural members. We shall now
in
see more detail how this occurs.
TheBradford Scum
becauseLeeds is quite metropolitan, you know a sort of beautiful place like you know
where the beautiful people congregate,but ugly people congregatein Bradford and like
err, all the ugly people lived in Bradford like so the other people were punks, I suppose,
Re you know, erm crusties,whatever like you know and all the clean-cut kids lived in
Leeds,but, apart from a few exceptionslike, and anyway like so it sort of clips Bradford.
Bradford'sgone down the pan, erm which is fairly contentiousbut I know some people
would agree with me, and Leeds has got a really good, vibrant sceneRe you know.
The stereotypicaldescriptionhere is abundantlyclear, and goesconsiderablybeyond
where the 'ugly' people congregateand Leeds where the 'clean cut kids' live. The
the stereotypeto maximum effect by stating, as a form of repair work, that 'a few
uneasewhen he attendedLeedsshow:
Bradford peoplehave said that they feel excludedin Leeds. They felt that it's very kind
of maybesnobby,but I counterthat kind of view with the fact that you can go anywhere,
any pub, any place any town, any gig and you'll feel the same. I think iVs about the fact
that if you know someonethen you're comfortable if you go somewhereand you don't
know someonethen youll feel slightly uncomfortable. Uhh and there's inroads, get to
know someone,get to know someoneelse. Get to know them ... you get to know their
friends, get to know you and whateverand that'show it works you know it's interaction I
supposeand that could be the one thing. I might have felt it at times but I know, I know
a lot of the old people, older people that have been involved in the Leeds scene and like,
you know form the out set, the DiY element like. So therefore I've never felt really
excluded because I go way back so I don't feel I've got to prove myself any of the new
kids like and if they don't know me I really don't care It's not I really don't care it doesn't
bother me like. I'm not, I do my thing and I'm not, not really. It's a bit difficult
sometimes with what I do. I don't know there could be more fast bands I suppose,you
know, I dunno, it's expensiveLeeds,posy. Uhhm, it's not Bradford erm, it's big it's too
far to walk (laughter) erm, beer prices are fucking extortionateerr, the record shopsthat
were good have all closed down, Duchess closed down.
Here C argues that familiarity with the Leeds scene reduces such feelings of
unbelonging, yet the stereotypesare resiliently evoked: Leeds is 'posy', beer prices
are 'fucking extortionate' and there aren't enough fast bands there. Such views are
presentedagainst the backdrop of the lin12 which is, by default, set up as notposy
with its remit of cheapbeer and its gig bliss full of fast, honestbands.
During the field work period, the linl2ers' that attendedgigs and parties stuck
togetherboth at the gigs and the partiesthat occurredat the weekends. Here C, again,
makes direct reference to the distinctions between the two scenes through his
It was like Bradford scum on the stairs (laughter), Leedskids in the houseand stuff and
like you know on the seatsand stuff and us lot outside, fucking, oer, argh oer like this
(gestures)and we werejust throwing each other off the stairs like andjust hanging each
other off the top of the stairs and throwing eachother aroundand that and falling all over
the place and singing Black Flag songsand fucking being idiots really.
Here the sharp distinction of 'clean-cut' Leeds and Bradford Scum presents the
civilised Leeds scene as adopting the correct position of using seats whilst the
distinctions, lin12 members establish their authentic status as rebels within the
at home: at the 120Rats. With the exceptionof Mr. I who explicitly raised concerns
over club members neglecting the lin12 for the 120Rats, the majority of the
interviewees stated that the squat was the most comfortable Leeds destination for
them as it directly reflected the core DiY valuesof the lin12. Ms. G was clear on this
matter:
The squat. I just love the squat,becauseyou can go there and everyonegoes heeyyyy!
You know. It's similar to Bradford people and you'll walk in and it's just great. And
everyone at the I in 12 is just so up for what they are doing. It's a really cheapnight out
and it's always a good night out. You know it's really: the squatbasically
With the rest of the LeedssceneI don't like going to strangepubs and getting kicked out
at stupid times and having to pay loads for drinks. I really don't like that and I don't
think there's any needfor it and that's part of the reasonpeople like us set up and run the
Club. Not wanting to harp on aboutthat too much. I just hate going. I don't like going
and trying to be quiet and not putting my feet upon chairs and. I just really hatethat sort
ofthing. Ijustwantto goto agig and do whatever I want.
The scene beyond the 120Rats is described in similar terms to Cls: 'strange',
governed by rules and expensively priced drinks. The 120Rats chimes with the
sensibilities of the club members' sensibilities:the TAZ statusof the building allows
effectively banished. For the lin12 memberand the squat,the rejection of such rules
is interpretedas a wider freedom and autonomy unavailable within the wider Leeds
scene.
There are lin12 memberswho do not visit Leeds and create an equal measureof
unease among the 'posh' Leeds people as the Bradford scum experiencedwhen
visiting gigs and parties other than the 120Rats. H statedthat he rarely, if ever, visits
linl2:
You know what I was saying earlier about image and about how people look? Err, it's
quite funny. It's like who's more hardcorethan you, you know. He must be hardcore,or
he's far more hardcorethanhim. But then when you see,if there's a gig here [I in 12] and
loads of people come over from Leedsright. It's a bit cynical probably, but you could
probably pick 'em out. You know, and what the fuck do they carry around in their
rucksacksall the time! [laughter]. They have got their walkman on. They are wearing a
coat, and big fucking rucksack.
Leeds people are distinguishedand recognisedat the lin12 through their style of
clothing. They are consideredto be neat and tidy rather than dirty and crusty. Such
views createa mirror image of eachother. This is illustrated by Mr. J, who described
the Leeds kids who visited the lin12 as 'rather yuppie and younger', whilst Ms. M
tendedto be more emo, I think. I'm not really sure what emo is but. It seemsto be more
into musical things rather than the more punky stuff. I think they get a lot more peopleto
their gigs 'cause it's like a massivecity with a big studentpopulation. And they have
gigs in different pubs around town. So it's easier for people to go because it's not this
club down a dingy alleyway. It's in pubs what people drink in anyway. I think one of
the best things aboutLeedsis the 120Ratswhich unfortunately is getting evicted isn't it?
LadidaLeeds
and rundown northern city. For the majority of them the only decent subcultural
attribute the Bradford scene had was the lin12. There were, however similar
problems in terms of reception when those Leeds members visited the linl2: they
were perceivedas 'posh', 'emo' and 'clean-cut' to namebut three of the stereotypical
descriptors. In return, the lin12 was viewed by the younger Leeds sceneas 'crusty"
Ile vibe I always got at the lin12, and even still do to an extent is not that it is not a
young personsatmosphere,but I don't feel as comfortable there maybeas I do, because
the age rangethere is a lot higher then it is in Leeds. And a lot of other showsand for a
long time I always felt that it didn't feel comfortable dancing 'causeeveryonewas like
old and stood there and you didn't dare dance. It's not so much like something that
anyone'ssaid or I think peoplereally feel, causeI obviously it's blatantly whateverage it
doesn't really matter, but you know how you get vibes about places and the I in 12 just
linl2ers were perceivedas 'old' and 'punk' by the younger membersof the Leeds
hardcoresceneand the 1in12 was viewed as a place where one couldn't danceor feel
comfortable at the shows. Mr. C statesthat a lot of the Leeds people think that the
You know a load of people think that the club is really politically correct and I really
have a lot of problemswith this PC type of mentality and tag that people attachto other
people who they perceiveas being, you know someonewho will get all high and mighty
aboutparticular usesof languagelike you know, erm.
What is at stake here are two contrary impulses within punk: on the one hand
breaking down barriers and challenging conventions, while on the other adopting
the core ethics of anarchopunk ethics and the traditional 'get pissed, destroy' punk
I think a lot of it boils down to the divisions betweenLeedsand Bradford of what is and
what isn't punk or hardcore. That's why I have always seen,well not always seenbut
recently seenthat the Leedsscenecelebratesmore about a way of producing things than
of sticking to rigid punk genres.
Here I can return to one of the earlier points I made above in relation to the I in 12
experiencinga lack of turnout at their gigs. One of the reasonsthat someof the Leeds
people don't go to such shows is that they feel intimidated with the cliquey
event occurring at the lin12. This is similar to the way that the linl2ers chooseto
frequent the squat rather than the Leeds scene as a whole. A related yet separate
reasonfor this is down to the single site of the lin12 and its lack of variety. Mr. G
pointed out:
There's a lot of the old 'timers' should I say within Bradford, you know a lot more of the
establishedpeople. When I think of the younger kids that go to shows,like there's Mr. F
from Bradford and there's like a couple of others, but there really aren't that many kids
This is a solution that is often aimed at the irresolvable situation of Leeds versus
Bradford yet only concentrateson the musical activities of the club. As I noted in
chapter five, music is only one of the activities that the Club participatesin. Those
contribution to the club would be left strandedby such a move. They would be
it is not shared across the board, nor are the activities of the Leeds scene badly
received when they are introduced to the Club, as one of the of C&R members
articulated:
I have never really understoodthesedivisions. I got kind of got disillusioned with it. I
went to Bradford and I thought it was cool, certain key people that were involved and I
felt encouragedand supportedwith my bands.
are obvious:
I think basically there's more of us and it's not just that there's more scope for things
becausethere's more venuesthere's more there's different gigs going on, there's a bigger
social circle. It's like causethe thing that I think the thing that got to me about Bradford
was becauseit were basically incestuousit was kind of everybody knew everybody's
business.
moving across. During the fieldwork period, the move to Leeds by core members
placed additional stresseson the remaining members of the lin12. The 120Rats
email to me in 1999,inherit the label of 'another rat leaving the stinking shit'?
Conclusion
In this chapter I have covered the contradictions between the Leeds and Bradford
scenesin terms of the Out of Step shop, where genre capital is invoked in order to
front room and cellar to the city-centre nightclub. The latter raises important
questionsabout where the boundariesof the core DiY ethic lie and how far practice
can move from them without becoming seriously compromised. Finally I have
how this ultimately places additional stresson the core linl2 club members. For
Introduction
Leeds DiY scenepresentedproblems for the lin12 member. For a large number of
members,this resultedin a move to Leeds. This connectsup with one of the assumed
central tendenciesof DiY music that its participants sooner or later exit the scene.
42) standsas testimony that the scenemanagesto both retain the majority of its core
can be broadly outlined in terms of the member ceasing active participation and
instead adopting new interests,concernsand general life activities that arrest future
involvement and participation in the DiY scene. This assumptionis prevalent in the
intention of leaving the sceneby using generalrather than specific examplesof exit
strategies.
empirically driven methodology.It is usedby the author in the sameway as the punks
of the study use it. To remind the reader how this term is applied and operatesin
Leeds and Bradford DiY practices the participants are engagedin and equally the
and beyond.
The term subcultureis both a general and specific term of referencefor a plurality
corporatepunk rock, rave parties,new age travellers, goths etc. that do not have DiY
punk and hardcore as their ethical centrepiece. Thus subculture operatesas both a
general and specific term that can relate to a whole cluster of scenes,practices and
not being usedin tandemwith the rhetorical and ideological baggageof its label mate,
The central aims of this chapter are twofold. Firstly, I want to establish the claim
that most core membersof DiY culture do not leave the sceneper se in terms of
ceasing involvement. Indeed this is clearly evident from close scrutiny of the
associate UK and European scenes. In short core member exit runs along
alter the learnt practicesof DiY culture, they merely perform and adapt to new DiY
authenticity are bound up with, and constructedthrough, the general and specific
descriptions of scene exit. I will discuss how such claims to authenticity have a
dilemmatic quality in that any form of sceneexit can be read as an index of either
statementsof guilt.
The presentchapterwill be split into four sections. Firstly, I will considerthe broad
specifically function as explanatory linguistic devices for why people exit the scenes
but at the same time act as devices that both 'other' those who are not core scene
members and also serve as devices to constitute the participant's authentic scene
exit from the I in 12 club and introducing the issue of subcultural burnout to establish
the claim that scene exit is more prevalent from the lin12 in Bradford than from
numbersand its multi-sited DiY framework acted as a magnet for lin12 members.
Additional attentionwill be paid to the low levels of sceneexit from the Leedsscene.
Finally, I concludethis chapterby restatingits central claim that the core membership
of hardcore punk constitute a group for whom scene exit means: either remaining
wider punk subculture to move onto fresh DiY punk and hardcore related scenes.
Here I will also restatethat the issueof authenticity is central to both hardcorepunk
culture and scene exit. From the original UK inception of punk rock the level of
participation and its flipside, the lack of understandingand 'true' involvement, have
general, reasonsfor exit referred to in the interviews and the specific issuesof this
A number of common responsesto the question 'why might a person leave the
exit patterns of member exit description. Reasonsfor exit can be situated within a
common typology of scene exit: vanishing people; careers and education; age,
children and death; and fmally issues regarding the local scene and site of
participation.
It should be noted that virtually none of the core intervieweeshad exited the scene
in DiY practice at the time of the fieldwork. What underpinsthe typological themes
The VanishingPeople
level. In short, such participants are marginal, yet centrally linked to the general
populaceof the DiY social arena. Mr. R noted that there are 'hundredsof examples'
of such people he has experiencedover the years and statedthat he 'largely did not
have a clue where they went, they simply disappeared! Indeed Mr. D described
lin12 club's attractionsbecame,for him, stale: he left Bradford to join a band in the
south of the UK. Within the interview data, similar terms usedto describeexit were
that people 'vanished', 'disappeared'or 'left' the scene, that they were no longer
'visible' or 'active' as members,yet the exit of the vanishing people has a knock-on
effect within the DiY scene. For core members,the 'vanishing people' will continue
to arrive and leave and perhapsbecomemarginally involved before they exit. This
the
reduces numbersattendingand supportingDiY music events. As an observerand
is established as a device that is reflexively linked to, and constitutive of, the
who leave the scene. Mr. D statedthat people who briefly engagewith the scenemay
their lives. This assumptionwas also madeby Mr. C when he claimed that a general
reasonfor exit is that people'go normal', they 'get into football and start reading The
subcultural activities such as rave culture, drum and bass or DiY hip-hop or other
subcultural genres more suited to their musical tastes. In defence of his own
authenticity, Mr. C statedthat he had no plans to exit the scene:that he 'kept his hand
in' and hadn't resortedto 'wearing Calvin Klein aftershavejust yet. Claims such as
no longer identifying with, or ceasingto hold a firm commitment to, the values and
practices of DiY music. From the point of view of the present ethnographicdata,
leaving the scene for core members remains a preserve of semi and peripheral
Careersand Education
The most likely cause of scene exit cited in the data is the adoption of a career.
Described in the interviews as 'getting a job, ' 'doing the nine to five', 'starting one's
own business'
and 'getting the
a career', underlying implication was that such activity
would take priority over involvement in DiY activities. The lack of careerintentions
from postal to bank workers. The reasoningimplicit in the interviews is that such
employment allows the individual to both work for a living wage and participate in
the DiY punk scene,while the generalview of a careerper se is couchedin the idea of
work as total commitment, leaving little time to set aside for DiY activity. Waged
identified as dilemmatic. To adopt the later courseof action is bound up with the
core membershad no careerat the time of writing, and were insteadeither involved
with part and full-time work and education or receiving benefits, enabled them to
continue authentic participation within the punk sceneeven if this meant that such
a possiblestateof bumout.
leading to sceneexit. Education was used in one instanceto state how inauthentic
Mr. Q is explicit when discussingpeoplewho left the Leeds scenein the late 1980sin
As far as I can tell they fucked off 'causethey had finished their university coursesand
got jobs got suits, and I know one who got into record managementand I think worked
for a big label. A lot of them I met finished their university courses,took their piercings
out, got a nice fucking suit and went and got ajob.
There are two points that can be raisedin relation to this quote. Firstly authenticity
participation in the scene but also provided the potential resourcesfor scene exit.
Secondly,and a point I shall discussin further detail below, the discourseof 'selling
out' is implicit here. That one memberof the said grouping 'worked for a big label'
can be read as implying that core principles of the scene,previously adheredto, have
uncompromisingly harsh tone of Tucked off and 'nice fucking suit' illustrates the
hostility aimed at those who abandonthe core DiY values. Taken together, both
views against selling out and having a career. That a number of intervieweeswere
involved with education (both further and higher) and remained active within the
be to
scenecan used show that those who are involved as core membersdo not fall
virtues of sceneauthenticity.
Aging, children and deathwere all cited by the intervieweesas reasonsfor sceneexit.
I shall take discusseachof thesein turn. Age was discussedat three different levels.
position and dedication towards the scene. Mr. E noted that as he agedthe priorities
on the shelf at thirty five years of age'. This is an important point as it suggeststhe
the
observed averageage to be located in the early twenties, not teens,such concerns
and fears in
were expressed relation to feeling the pressureto leave a scenethat had
large numbers of younger people participating in the scene. Mr. K pointed to this
by
unease stating that he often felt like he was 'an overgrown kid in the extended
punk peers on his continuing subcultural involvement: for K, his involvement is his
life:
continues with his life in the traditions learnt through lengthy involvement. This
to
personalstruggle achievean advancedage in a subculturalgroupings. However, on
the other hand, it also raisesthe dilemma of feeling old in what could, ostensibly, be
describedas a youth scene. To be young in such a sceneis one of the central sources
DiY sceneson age lines suggeststhat the case of DiY hardcore working under the
SecondlyE was also keen to point out that his concernsand subcultural dedications
shifted ground after his father died and he felt obligatedto care for his aging mother: a
in
shift priorities had taken place relative to his age. He was equally keen to point out
that, in careerterms, working low paid jobs that enabledparticipation in DiY, proved
to feed himself properly due to his low pay and as this stateof affairs progressedhe
Thirdly, age provided the elder membersof the scenewith the choice of exit from
certain sceneactivities. Indeed, Mr. I (aged 42 at the time of interview) noted that
DiY bandsand gigs no longer held his attention, yet he still wished to be involved in
the production of sucheventsin the role of either a soundengineeror van driver. Part
I've reachedthe agenow and the circumstanceswhere I don't particularly enjoy gigs very
much. I'm going a bit deaf and I can't be arsedwith people shoving into me and all that.
I want to sit down and pay attention,not be deafenedand pushedarounda lot. I'm short,
I can't see what's going on at the front. If there'sa crush, I meanto me a gig is a place
where you can't seeproperly, you cant hearproperly, so why would you want to go there,
so I tend not to.
For 1, the concert is a place that no longer holds appeal, yet he managesto be
involved in the practical end of the organisationand the mechanicsof the event. This
be
can explained both in terms of his relatively advancedage as a scenememberand
assertsabove all is his continuing dedicationto DiY culture. This in turn upholds the
argument that scene exit is not a clear-cut issue in terms of direct and total
for sceneexit. In spite of this only one out of the twenty-five interviewees was a
he
parent and was estrangedfrom his child at the time of interview. The generalview
fucked up' to have kids. Bringing more children into the world to contribute to what
be unfair on the child. That said the relatively small number of intervieweeswith
children was not overly reflective of the membershipof the IinI2. Lots of lin12
in the lin12 not studied for this project. Children also involve a shift of
responsibilities arrest participation but it was made clear in interview that having
failed personal relationships. Mr. G stated that his ex-partner lost interest in the
stating that the relationship broke up shortly after this with her not being seen at
eventsafter this break. Many similar examplesof this can be found in the interview
responses,though the finer mechanics and intimate details of such issues were
that was not gained from the interview data but from my own personalexperienceof
the DiY scene. During the period this study was carried out, eight core membersof
the UK DiY scenemet with tragic, early deaths. This is the ultimate form of scene
in
exit, although many respectstheir activities and lives continue to be celebrated
SceneIssues
Within this subsectionthe broadissuesof potential exit arising from issueswithin the
person might leave the scene,not actual accountsof this practice. I shall split this
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The first general theme related to scenepolitics was an abiding concern with the
lack of rewardsfrom input into DiY punk. In a sense,this precludeswhat will be said
stopsbeing fim and you feel you are wasting your time'; 'when the pros outweigh the
being used to constitute how exit might occur, there was very little evidence in
I will articulate below, when participants' expectations are no longer met by the
scene,they move on, althoughthis doesnot act as a rule that they will exit the wider
subcultureto adopt a new life plan. As I noted above, Mr. E beganto prioritise his
activities but this did not lead to his exit, only a reconsiderationof it. In similar terms,
Mr. D found that the Bradford scenehad become'stale',though this merely led him to
pursue wider subcultural DiY sceneactivities in the South of England. He noted that
those who exit or vanish from the sceneoften reappearwith a new band, label distro,
fanzine or promotion activity. Exit from the scenein thesecasesis usedas a spaceto
returning to the original sceneor moving to/starting a new scene. Mr. R noted that
after running a DiY record label, promoting bandsand being involved in the I in 12 for
play in a band and remain involved in promoting gigs. He statedthat the reasonfor
him winding down his concernswith the label was becauseof money being owed to
him and he was constantlytrying to recoup money owed to the label. R statesthat
UY doesnot work' for him and the lack of honestyof thosethat owe him money has
led him to consider exit as an option. He wound down his label as a result of this.
commitment to the label project. R stated that he was much more comfortable
pursuing work in his band than being constantly frustrated with the intricacies of
not occur per se, it merely shifts to other activities within the DiY sceneor wider
subculturealong the lines of either shifting location or the choice of activities one is
involved in.
A further illustration of this is related to the scale and pace of genre progression
within the hardcore DiY punk scenes. As a participant observer of the Leeds and
Bradford scenesI attendedand played nearly eighty concerts within the field work
period. Indeed, certain weeks in Leeds there were eight hardcore related shows
available to attend and up to three at the linl2. In tandem with this the amount of
monthly record releases from bands was bewildering. Within MRR, Fracture and
RTB, I counted for one month on the global DiY hardcore and punk subculture 580
record reviews and 99 fanzine reviews across the three DiY publicationS70 Mr. K
made explicit mention of the effort required just to keep in touch with the minimum of
this output. He noted that if one does not attend concerts or buy records for a
relatively short period on time, one may find 'oneself outside' of the current debates
One interviewee was keen to point out that as hardcore punk genres change and
releases multiply, there is a possibility of alienation: that 'one day you will wake up
and find yourself outside of the scene.' What underpins this particular point is an
70Takinginto
accounttheevidenceof duplicatereviewsof recordsbetweenthethreefanzines
This leadsto counterclaims and criticism from within the scene. K noted that one of
the faults he found in the Leeds DiY scenewas that it had a predilection towards
be 'raw ,71
to
was originally supposed be about,to and spontaneous.
Finally, I wish to deal briefly with the issueof selling out and also to argumentsand
disagreementswithin the punk scenes. In selling out, the band in question leavesthe
fold of DiY punk rock and embracesthe world of corporate music subculturesas a
is
commonplaceof selling out similar to the discourseof 'career and education as
I
selling out'. shall saymuch more on the discourseand dilemmas of selling out in the
signed to EMI in 1997, used their new position to advance the cause of their
not only had this band aided the funding of the recording studio at the I in 12, they had
also funded a number of political organisationswith money gained from deals with
involved at the level of funding practicescentral to the politics of DiY scenes'. This
did not prevent the band from being chastisedand criticised for 'selling out' and
turning their backson the 'authentic'or 'real' scene. As in other cases,such criticisms
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record sleevefor PoisonIdea (1984) Record Collectorsare PretentiousAssholes.Bitzcore.
strategy which I have shown occurs across the general and broad discourse DiY
supportsmy counter claim that whilst a band may have left the immediate cultural
practices of MY, their future actions and support of it may simply proceed from a
The ethnographicdata provides strong supportive evidence for exit from the lin12
core membersremaining completely dedicatedto the building and the general DiY
project it houses. Within the fieldwork period evidenceof sceneexit aroseout of the
linl2 club with little suggestionand evidenceof exit from the Leeds scene. Through
during the field work period, and my long-standingassociationwith both the Leeds
and Bradford scene,a large number of people(I estimateat around fourty) had ceased
daily involvement with the lin12 and had moved away from the city, either around
the country or to the adjacentcity of Leeds. Indeed, over half of the intervieweesof
The lin 12 club faced a crisis meeting in November of 1999 in which the issue of
closureand thus its own exit from the subcultural map was seriously debated. What
becameevident from this meeting was the issue that member exit, and a lack of
participation and use of the club, (as I pointed out in the previous chapter)presented
losing battle' and of 'bangingone'shead against the wall'. As the morale of the club
fell during this period, so did attendanceat concertsand other 1inl2 events. The club
managedto argue with itself againstclosure and the crisis meeting helped to sustain
the fieldwork in 2001, the morale of the club had lifted and it had managedto tum
itself around, chiefly through the recruitment of volunteers and new members72
.
However, although the crisis meeting stavedoff the motion to close and sell off the
building and return the linl2 to a free floating organisation, operating as a multi-
exit occurred and why membersmigrated away from Bradford to the most popular
Exit
with the author during this period, was burnout. There exists a large body of work
Schaufeli, 1993). The majority of this and related work concentrateson professional
methodological strategy with the 'Maslach Burnout Scale' (Maslach and Jackson,
1981). However Pines (1993) has conversely argued, through qualitative research,
that burnout 'tends to afflict people with high goals and expectations'(1993:34).
Broadly speaking, Pines's thesis holds that people burnout when they enter an
organisation with high expectations and are met with constant and frustrating
72This
was achievedby allowing well-attendedraves to be held in the building. Those who attended
theseeventshad to be becomeaI in 12 memberin advanceor entrancewould be denied.
Within this section I will outline and explore an empirical five-point typology of
factors that are central to memberburnout and exit from Bradford and the lin12 club
I
scene. consider the above crisis meeting as broadly reflective of the levels of
consequencesof exit both from the club member'sperspective and the politics of
that on initial involvement they had high expectationsof what could be achieved in
the spaceof the I in 12 club. Mr. J stated:'when I got here I was like trying to change
his future plans, but stated that he became de-motivated when the plans were
involvement in the 1in12 club allows the potential freedom and scopefor membersto
make their choice of club activities their own and mutually support other membersin
Firstly, on the adoption of a task, the membermanagesto make the task their own.
Ms. G spoke of how she re-organisedthe office and took over the membershipcard
by
she was now expected other membersto be solely responsiblefor this task and
duties.
associated This distractedher from other ideal
chosen, tasks in the club. Once
Secondly,within this period, the numberof membersleaving the club meant that the
relative number of tasks steadily increased and became more difficult as the
organisationaland practical skills, built up by and practiced over the years by the
migrated members,were lost. Skill loss presenteda 'lag' where members had to
Core membersof the club beganto find themselvesunder pressureas daily taskswere
is a tendencyto adopt such activities on the back of an already full schedule. This is
done out of necessityrather than through a genuine wish to accomplish such tasks.
out becamediluted as I illustrated in chapterfive. The central DiY principle of 'if you
pressuresof tasks. Mr. I related how frustrated he becameworking in the caf6 when
suitedhis skills:
The sort of work I would rather be doing is physical things 'causewe are talking about
the best things I am good at and I can do [them] and be useful, and also get a senseof
satisfactionwhen you look at it. But you can flip burgersall day long and people come
in while they go shoppingand go out again and that's good becausethat's a useful thing
for them. Obviously they are going to forget aboutit.
diverted from, or are unable to give full attention to, the tasks and activities that
inspired them originally to becomeinvolved in the I in 12. Mr. I statedthat there were
countless examples of projects that had been started in the club that remained
abandonedor unfinished due to the lack of core membersand the distraction away
from the tasks at hand. Mr. S noted how frustratedhe felt when membersof the bar
collective cancelledtheir shifts or failed to turn up. This meant that occasionallyhe
had to work double shifts or was left with the difficult task of trying to cover the shift
at such late notice. Multi-tasking was a major, reason for burnout. Apart from the
two paid workers at the club (bar stewardand caretaker),the rest of the core members
were balancing club involvement with either families, part-time work, or music
projects. Their frustration lead to periods of crisis as those who work at the club
cannot always take the addedpressure. Within the crisis period memberssaw the
The secondlevel of the lin12 exit typology directly leads on from my previous
feelings loss 73
of community . The exit of core membershad
point and points to of a
for thoseleft at the club. For the purposesof brevity I shall restrict this
consequences
discussionto three of them. Firstly, Ms. G and Mr. S referred to a previous club
caretakerwho burnedout by taking too much on in the club and becoming angry with
73Here
the term community is usedinterchangeablywith scene.
his exit as a good thing both for himself and the club, even though they would
negatively; there is the potential to recognise the levels of distress burnout may
in
produce a member. Secondly,the general core member exit during this period
the club. Mr. R recalled how the creative input of the French Canadiansworking at
Here R produces a central point in relation to exit. As the social groupings are
gradually reduced in the lin12 through member exit, the capacity for meaning,
club activities with smaller numbers. Thus the third consequenceof exit, isolation,
becomesa factor that impactedupon club activities and memberexit. R. noted that as
dwindle and the senseof community was lost. R, K and W mentionedthat the street
they lived on in Bradford once contained12 flats with over fifteen individuals living
members left, the increasedisolation within club activities, and externally in the
community housing, intensified feelings of the urge to also leave Bradford. R. noted
that his mental healthbeganto suffer through the isolation of living in Bradford on his
ovvn:
I have got respectfor anyonethat is still there man, becauseit is hard work man. it was a
poor time for my mental healthand I had to leave. I endedup in this flat on my own and
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went on to provide creative input at the Leeds 120Rats.
daily interaction of the club. He ran a record label out of the basementof the lin12
and he stated that the daily repetition of being isolated and stuck in a 'cold cellar'
packaging up records for mail order, collating records (folding sleevesand covers)
exit. Years of cold winters in the cellar and freezing nights spentat the computer in
the club, organising DiY music distribution and band activities, eventually took their
toll.
Early in 2000, R left Bradford scenefor Leeds citing burnout as a specific reason.
This leads into the third point of the typology: the dilemma of exit guilt. Those who
ship'especially thosewho left following the crisis meeting. Both R and W mentioned
that there was some scepticismfrom existing club membersand he felt that he had
distanced himself from some of them when he stated he felt a 'bit of the cold
had begun to dwindle. The feelings of guilt at leaving were also oriented to the
insularity of the I in 12 club. She describedher guilt in terms of 'leaving her family'.
There was a bit of resentment.I just felt that you were getting resentedbecauseyou were
leaving a sinking ship and they were kind of like "ahh, Bradford is not good enough for
you then?" Nothing was actually said but [I felt this to be the case].
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Overall, the consequences
of a group of friends leaving the I in 12 sceneled to feelings
of increasedisolation both inside of the I in 12 and also in the wider housing and social
in
maintenanceof strong views and politically correct positions, conjunction with the
factors outlined above had proved to be a contentiousissue inside of the linl2. Mr.
C, a member who exited the club in 1999, spoke of the difficulties of maintaining
such views. Underpinning these views under the banner of the club's guiding
in the club gearedto such concerns. However, what clasheswith this is the punk
ethos of 'get pissed destroy' and its anti-conservativeideas of rejecting rules and
barriers. C describedhis time at the club as being constitutedby 'calling people over
their shit.' Any language use that was deemed offensive or oppressive was
challenged. C stated that this position of 'constant fights' proved to be one of the
out with people over what he consideredtrivial issuesand this in turn depletedhis
energiesto remain involved in club activities. What the interview with C highlights is
the inherent senseof irony that weavesits way through the club's existence. The
clash of the politically correct with the rebelliousnessof the punk sceneat the heart of
issuesof burnout and exit securesits place in terms of member exit. A clear example
The quiz team were down hereon Tuesdayand a couple of people came in, a man and a
woman and were playing pool. This lad who doesphotographyhad beentaking photos
for his college courseand therewas one of this woman and someonegoes "have you got
a bird?" Nothing happenedand then as the man and woman were leaving, this woman
laid in about the foul and abusivefascist languagethat had been used [by us]. And we
went What?!", and we'd forgottenwhat we'd said, OK iVsnot a nice thing to call women,
and it endedup with this bloke [with us] saying "fuck off you languagefascists!"
What this quotation servesto do is outline that the lin12 is both an arenawhere
politically correct and un-politically correct language use are both used and
vernacular language usage. Through observation at the club, there are frequent
through the Sunday meeting where the member faces being banned from the club.
The reproductionof the Club's value systemalong theselines, as Mr. C points out, has
Transgressionof the core valuesis a further reasonfor exit from the linl2. It can
lead to a personbeing bannedfrom the club for a prolonged period of time. During
the field work period one memberwas bannedfrom the building for ignoring repeated
warnings over smoking cannabisin the building and compromising the club's policy
on this issue. Also in both K and Q's interviews, they made mention of a friend with
mental health problems banned for making fascist statementsand salutes in the
building in a vane attempt to attract attention. Such decisions are often not popular
and in the latter instance,K and Q both felt that it was an unfair decision to ban the
personconcerned. Whilst full exploration of this example is beyond the scopeof the
the club may occur through collective decision. It should be added that in all
instancesof a member being bannedfrom the club, they are invited to the Sunday
of club activity. However,in sevenof the interviews carriedout with lin12 members,
the issue of preciousness over the club building became explicit. The word
club membersfelt betweenthe club as a work and social arena. Linked to the issueof
on the floor, or visited the toilets only to find a water leak, he found that it was almost
still caring intensely about the club. Core club membersspokeof taking the rubbish
out and finding themselves asked to work on their nights off if the club was
potential for relaxation can be drastically reducedthrough and the lack of established
boundaries between the club's working and social life. With such a heavy self-
outlines this neatly as he noted in his diary the urge to visit the club on his way home
(13/07/01)1finished work in Halifax at 8.00 and dropped into the club on the way home
to seehow the punk'spicnic was going on. Passingthe gig floor it was clear that sound-
checking wasjust starting. In the cafd, band food was ostensiblybeing prepared. What
was actually happeningwas that a massof peoplehad occupiedthe seatingareaand were
in the process of variously spilling and/or drinking a range of low-grade alcoholic
productswhich they'd bought elsewhere.A lone representativeof the putative organisers
the above diarist. He explicitly noted in his account of club activities how such
selfishness,irresponsibility and lack of respect for other club members drove him
towards burnout. Here is his accountof the taskshe performedat the club before he
retumed home:
Before putting the room back in order, a place had to be clearedfor the cups and plates
scatteredall aroundthe place.I rolled up my sleevesand got stuck into the kitchen chaos.
After a while somekind of equilibrium was achievedin the kitchen and I gatheredup the
dishes from the room and startedon those, and then set to scoopingup the empty cider
cansand Buckfastbottles(ibid).
This diary entry clearly demonstrateswhere frustrations can build whilst also
serving to demonstrate how the space in the I in 12 for core workers can be sidetracked
from its original purpose. Mr. I finds it increasingly difficult to pursue the club tasks
he really wanted to be involved with such as working on the studio project. The
collision of the work and social arena is always a potential catalyst for member
burnout.
As most of the core club membersduring the field work period either held down full
coincidence that the loss of unemploymentbenefit and Income Support under the
Allowance and the Labour Government's New Deal' as a replacementof the earlier
benefits, invaded and restrictedthe free time available for membersto participate in
DiY and club activities. They were forced into 'training' schemesforjobs. In spite of
that they often find themselvesback at the club after short spells of employment:
(10/07/01) Over the years the lin12 demographichas shifted from unemployed-and-
pissed-off-about-itto employed-andpissed off about it. Those linl2ers who present
themselvesat employmentagenciesor job interviews don't, on the whole, seemto stay
employedfor too long. We'reall a bunchof misfits and that'swhat gluesus together.
On the face of it, it might be consideredthat the changesin the benefit system
would have madethe lin12 unworkable. However, in spite of this, core membersstill
volunteer and still remain involved and this is a salient point: there are thosemembers
who continue to remain in Bradford and strive to be actively committed to the club in
member frustrations migration, and member exit (at the time of writing) the lin12
point, the changes to the benefit system were not a recurrent interview theme
the fieldwork, the reports that came through the meeting in conjunction with my
crisis meetingwas called as the club had found itself in deeperfinancial trouble than it
usually faces (the club runs at a deficit over certain periods of the year). Apart from
the initial grant to buy the building, describedin chapter five, the club is dependent
upon beer salesand the revenueit derives from these,donations,the activities of the
collectives, renting out the club's space,and the caf6 and bar income. The constant
strugglefor money impactsupon core membermorale and addsto the frustration and
burnout documentedabove.
However as I noted in chapter five and as a final point, the physical fabric and
resourcesof the club act as a constant source of anxiety and frustration. Such
spectrum, Mr. I noted in diary form that the roof of the building required urgent
attention as did the lift motor. As a consequenceof the latter, all loading of heavy
At the micro (as I noted in chapter five) I observed,whilst working on the studio
project, that the majority of the wood usedwas either recycled from other areasof the
building or taken from skips aroundthe city. The tools used were brought in by the
occasionsthe to
studio work ground a halt on account of the tools breaking down.
Taken as a whole these four factors, lack of benefits and time, financial problems,
in somecasescontributeto exit.
for member burnout and sceneexit from the 1in12. From the multi-tasking and peer
the task of running the building in the face of constantfinancial pressure,to the lack
of resourcesand fresh volunteer input, all ultimately place pressuyeson the core of
dedicated members left to maintain and enhancethe building. The fact that the
the core ethics of the Iinl2. The slogan from the twenty years anniversaryof the
such pressuresdid not prove to be a uniform catalyst for exit. As an adjunct point,
those members who did leave Bradford and cease daily input in the Iinl2,
either burned out or wantedto becomeinvolved with the thriving and diverse Leeds
scene.
the Leeds scene,yet all of them appearto still support the club at a distancethrough
which to live. Nearly all of the ex-lin12 club memberswho presentlyresidein Leeds
favourable and less depressingplace to live. Whilst there were examplesof residual
guilt over leaving the linl2, all of the intervieweesstatedthat they were better off in
Leedsand this contentmentis duly reflectedin the lack of evidenceof sceneexit from
Leeds. The four examplesI wish to briefly discusspresentsupport for the argument
Firstly the promoter of one of the gigs I played with my band at the 120Ratssquat,
was an active memberof the LeedsDiY community during the field work period. He
left the sceneto return home in the south of the UK becausehe was unable to gain
funding for his degreecourse. He left the city reluctantly. Secondly, Mr. G, one of
work. He statedthat he usedmany of the skills he had learnt within the Leeds DiY
UK and continue work with record label and concert promotions. Thirdly, the long-
Belgium, using the resourcesand contactsthey had made during their involvement
with UK DiY. They informed me that they had no immediateplansto return. Finally,
as discussed in chapter seven, Mr. V ceased work with the promotions group
Collective AKA. V statedthat this was due to his time being totally dominatedwith
other sceneactivities such as being in a band, running a DiY record shop and record
label. It is to be noted that his exit from this organisationdid not meanthat he made
Against the backdropof the large numbersof ex-lin12 memberson the Leeds scene
the relatively small numbersof exit from Leeds presentsa picture of a vibrant and
Conclusion
Implicit within the typology of sceneexit I have offered is the assertionthat in spite of
There are three important points of interest that can be drawn from this typology.
Firstly, there is little doubt that an exodus occurred from the lin12 from 1996
onwards and this contributed to rise of activity in the associateLeeds scene. This
Gordon PhD
wider subculture is abandoned,merely that similar activities are continued and
connectionswithin the DiY sceneare utilised elsewhere. Those that left the scene
input of core membershipacts as a driving force for both the cultural matrices in
question, but is, at the same time subject to and dependent upon the input of
reduction of input from semi and peripheralmembers. This in turn led to financial
stress, burnout and fallout among some of the core membersleading to their exit,
Leeds, the lack of evidence for subcultural exit suggeststhat the multi-cited and
and reducesstress. In the caseof the linl2's single building, the problemsof burnout
and the concentrationof activity there make for a more acute senseof frustration
when the scene loses membership. To put it in simple terms, the turnover of
Finally, there is the perennial question of authenticity. There are two levels of
authenticity, and exit dilemmasand the compromiseof authenticity. For the former I
have shown how generalinterview descriptionshave used exit as a category for the
leaving the sceneto travel to a 'new`or different one rendersone opento criticisms of
inauthenticity and selling-out from those remaining. This was graphically described
in the example of the 'your new mates'criticism levelled at Mr. R from a remaining
club member. Not only doesthis provide a level of guilt for the leaving member,it
also reflexively invokes the former category,that those remaining are authentic and
hold a valid position from which to criticise thosewho exit. The dilemma of guilt is
thereforeinvoked as a consequence
of a decisionof subculturalexit. This showsonce
again that issuesof authenticityare of central concernto any explanationof the DiY
my attention.
Gordon PhD
Chapter Nine: Dilemmas
HMV, in their moral righteousness,refuseto sell recordswhich contain four letter words
as they are regardedas obsceneand in bad taste. Yet Thorn-EMI, their parent company,
manufactureand export weaponsof war and instrumentsof torture worldwide. Doesthat
causea public outcry? Doesit fuck! (Chumbawamba,Revolution, 1985)
Disaffection and disapproval is the weapon of the authentic punk. This createsa
number of dilemmas. Chief amongthese is the drive to remain 'authentic' and not
succumbto the temptationsto 'sell out'. While thesepredatedpunk, they are central
to its practice. Since the 1970swell-trodden debateshave raged around the Sex
Pistols, Clash and other first-wave punk groups'selling out' and so losing the cardinal
and institutions is centralto DiY punk, but as we have seenfrom the outset,there is a
75See
appendix8 for examplesof the documentsof selling-out in punk.
practice. This can lead to a dilemma betweenon the one hand, utilising capitalist
institutions (signing a recording contract, doing promotion) for the sake of a wider
audience, and on the other, rejecting these strategiesin favour of localist cultural
autonomyand a more purist senseof identity, practice and solidarity. Both sharethe
same end-result,however. They leave the actual political and economic institutions
dilemma should be followed, and many honest, well-intentioned people have done
might call punk hubris. Many of the interviews and observationsin the fieldwork
on what it is that DiY punk genuinelytries to achieve. DiY punk is a cry for a return
to making music for its own sake,for its intrinsic pleasureand satisfaction,rather than
for the sakeof profit aboveand beyond any other value. It is equally about creating a
music to what is allowed or not allowed in the small print of the recording contract.
Since the whole issue of 'sell out' is central to DiY punk and what it opposes,
attaining the quality of dilemma for so many of its practitioners, and affecting
DiY punk is the production of music by the artist and label with no links to a
major label organisation. Under the DiY rubric, the writing, recording, promotion and
distribution is done by the bands and labels themselves76 At the level of
.
performance, shows, tours and promotions are also done in this manner though
We will not accept major label or related ads, or ads for comps and eps that include
major label bands(MRR, 174,1997).
And at the start of the reviews section:
Don't send wimpy arty metal corporaterock shit here. Don't have your label give us
follow up calls as to whether we received and are reviewing your record. Specific
it be
criticisms aside, should understood that any independent
releasesdeservecredit for
all the work and moneythat goesinto it (ibid)
Likewise HeartattaCk [sic] state:-
We will not review any record with a UPC or bar codeor UPC bar codesticker on it, and
we will not review any record that is financedby one of the so called independentgiants
as in Dutch East India, Caroline, Cargo [ ......] We are only interestedin supporting the
undergrounddo-it-yourself scene,and it is our opinion that UPC codesalong with 'press
and distribute' (P&D) are not fitting with the do-it-yourself ethic of hardcore
(HearlattaCk, 7,1995).
selling out may have the benefit of bringing punk valuesto a much greaternumberof
In 1985, Bradford band, New Model Army, signedto EMI after four years of DiY
and independentrecordreleases:
76 Distribution is further
a area of dilemma for the DiY label. Since a number of independent
distribution companiescollapsed in the early 1990s(Red Rhino, The Cartel, Revolver) major labels
have soughtto control distribution in the UK. Alternatives arosewith PhD, and Shellshock. However
thosededicatedto MY in a strict senseview distribution of recordswith the latter a sell-out. One of
the most respectedMY distributors in the UK is Active. Seewww.activedistribution.org
the signing. This was a play on NMA's 1984 anti-drug statement'Only Stupid
credibility when they signed to EMP. Yet as Robert Heaton (late NMA drummer)
You weren't even aware that you were affiliated with a band anyway from a point of
artistic freedom. You know that's your only connection. I don't know fuck all about
Conflict, I mean,I have never met any of them so I don't know what to fucking say: but
from the aspectof what we were talking about earlier, the punk thing as long as you are
doing what you want to do then that's, you know, then that's the essenceinnit. You
know Conflict. I presumeConflict's view would be that if you are signed to a global
conglomerate,you know corporatenightmare,then you are helping to destroythe world
which is a fair point. But how do you remain separatefrom that? In any aspectof your
life? You know there's one well known band from Leeds [Chumbawamba]cameto see
us and they used to boycott our gigs and you know they were giving out leaflets outside
and you know, we said come andin chat to us, you know for fuck's sake! And they, I
hold my hats off to them becausethey were doing their damndestto not be part of the
system. You know I'd 'I
go admire you totally', but the weak link was you know we
don't make recordswe don't we make our own clothes,we don't do such and such. We
releasetapes. So who makesthe tapes? Now there are like four companiesin the world
that maketapes.
Similar targets of abuse have been the US, Orange County punk bands Rancid, Social
Distortion, The Offspring and Green Day in addition to Bad Religion, L7, All, DRI,
Jello Biafra, NOFX, and the UK's Blaggers ITA and Back to the Planet77 . These
bands all signed to the majors in the early-to-mid nineties and felt the wrath of the
Leedsband, Chumbawamba.
After a significant period of DiY production very much in a similar vein to Crass
with their DiY label Agit Prop records,Chumawambasigneda distribution deal firstly
considerably shifted position from their original DiY intentions with the 1985 record
Revolution (as cited in the epigraphto this chapter). After over 15 yearsas DiY and
America. Most of the respondentsin the interviews commentedon this when asked
in anarchistpolitics. After becomingnotorious for throwing red paint over late Clash
front man, Joe Strummer,and for their critiques of Live Aid with the record Pictures
of Starving Children Sell Records,their. credibility was damagedwhen they did the
unthinkable: sign to EMI in 1997. Since then they have used their position to rally
series of stunts ensuedincluding the changing of the latter's song lyrics to 'Free
Mumia Abu Jamal' at the 1998 Brit Award ceremoniesand throwing a bucket of
water over the Deputy Prime Minister, John ('Two Jags') Prescott. Anne
Widdicombe also receiveda creampie in the face. They have donatedlarge sections
of their earningsto political causes,including the studio I helped to build during the
field work at the I in 12. In spite of these stunts, they have come in for some serious
criticism from those who claim they have sold out. Maximum Rock and Roll simply
a choice, stop taking orders from his master'svoice!" Churnbawambaput their first
record's releasein 1985 made the point that 'every time you buy from Thorn-EMI
you put your cross in their money box, you support the death-lines'. They believed
that 'we have to start delving deeperthan the glossy high streetpacket- start reading
signing to EMI:
Ideologically, it was a massiveleap to go onto a major label, cos' for yearswe'd said we
would never,ever do it and we neverwould.... but we had to
come a point where we just
thought you know we havedoneour own label, we've beenwith indies,small indies,big
indies, why not give it a chanceand wejust thought. I mean,we, we talked about it for
like a month, going backwardsand forwards and in the end we thought we shouldjust do
it and we'll probably have a really good year where they throw loadsof money at us
...
and we'll just have a great time and you know we'll get our recordsout and then they'll
probably dump us. So it actually lasteda bit longer than that to our surpriseand er that
didn't happentill' after the next record. But I think becausethey knew, and peoplein the
businessknew, that that song [Tubthumper]was going to be a hit, then it was a really
safe bet for 'em. It meantthat we could finance stuff like that and finance projects by
other people again ... so for a time there was anotherideological thing. We got offered
an advert and we had always said: no way! And we would never let our music be on an
advert, but we'd neverever beenoffered one and suddenlyRenault in Italy said ohh, you
know, we'll give you twenty thousandquid or whatever. If you let us use Tubthumping
and in the end we said yes and gave the money to two pirate radio stations, which
financed them for like five yearseach,you know and for a while, while all the hype
...
was going on we got a few offers like that ... and we were able to, you know, finance a
lot of things for a coupleof yearsafterwards. You are suddenlypresentedwith all these
opportunities which you never ever think'11come your way, and you just have to take
eachone as it comes... Err, we got quite a few letters. Err, just saying, you know, how
could you do this, we supportedyou all theseyears and you just throw it back in our
faces. I know in America we got into someargumentswith somepeople in Philadelphia,
and they'd beento the gig and that, but they werejust ahhyou know, thus, but ahhh. Yer
appealingto ten year olds.
Chumbawarnbahas been one of the loudest voices in the anarchopunk community,
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was met with mixed views by membersof the lin12. For example,Ms M had this to
say:
I know them and I totally respectthem becauseeven though they did sign for the major
label and everything,they stayedin this sceneas well But they have given money to
...
this place [I in 12]. They've helpedbuild this place. Erm Alice [Nutter] having a party on
Friday, everyonefrom hereis invited, no matterwho you are,you know it's the I in 12
...
You know they sing aboutEMI, slag 'em off... it is really hard, it's not black and white
is it? you can't say I'm never going to do it uhh, it 'ud be good if people could get the
messageacrosswithin the DiY scene,but maybethat's just too idealistic.
K and H both took this up:
TheEMIthing? Yeahallthat. It's just them trying to pull a stunt isn't it and it backfired
on them ... Well Danbert's thing about that was that they felt that they were somewhat
being exploited by One Little Indian, so and becauseof the level and the amount of
coveragethey were getting. If you aregonna' be exploited, be exploitedby someonethat
can do it efficiently. What pissed me off though was their whole slagging of punk
subculturejust, fair enoughbut then to turn around and do somethinglike that is sort of.
You know, if you got somethingto say, I think the punk scenedoesn't stand a lot of
criticism. I was their whole kind of like, you know, they did havea lot of shit off crusties
and all that whole fucking sceneback in the late eighties and early nineties, you know.
And they would get attacked,they got attackedand stuff a coupleof times.
Alice Nutter got bit in the fucking face or something,you know and they wrote articlesto
the papersslagging crusties and travelers and punks off. They basically said they are
nothing and propagatedtheir messagewas more important. Our medium is the message,
you know, we are gonna' go to EMI we're going to get this messageacross,whetherthey
did... The whole fucking contradiction is political. You know it's like the samething
with the Clash isn't it, fucking brilliant I think I agreedwith a lot of what they had to say
and then they turned into a bunch of twats. Whether they signed to CBS is fucking
incidental, cos' every fucking punk band aroundat the time was doing the same.
Chumbawambatotally went out on a limb and signed to EMI, um. Fuck knows why
EMI signedthem. I could never understandwhy it's kinda' like they were co-opted or
something.
Yeah it was again, I think. It's like allowing you. The whole DiY thing is that us three
are in a band, we do everything DiY, we're in total, you know. IMe only executive
decisionsare madeby us right? Er, you get to sign to someonelike EMI, or any of these
big record companies. All of a suddenour band actually is no longer three people its
twenty, it's a crew of twenty-five an the decisionswe make then becomevery difficult.
Here's our record, "well I'm sorry you can't say thaV, eh what? "No, no you can't have
that picture, no I'm sorry, you will have to do this." What the fuck is this?
This whole commodification thing is well, which is like you know, killing the fucking
band and a band is an expressionof our culture, isn't it, and then to have that expression
of your culture taken by someoneelse and sold as an expressionof culture ceasesto
becomean expressionof our culture. It becomesa contradiction.
dilemma facing Chumbawambaas this was taken up, debated,and turned around from
every conceivableangle by DiY punk subcultural members. Each member faced the
dilemma themselvesand actedit out vicariously. This was a measureof how deeply
For a bandthat sells out and doesn'thave anythingto say why am I going to be bothered?
I'm not. It doesn'taffect me at all. GreenDay? Who cares? Chumbawamba,different
story, you know it is a different story. I am saddenedby what they did. I think the best
thing I can do is pity them becausethat is a harsherhuman emotion to lay into someone
with. At one time I would have beenangry. Chumbawambahad a long history with the
anarcho,punk sceneand did the dirty. They went on Top ofthe Pops.
For any self-respectingpunk, going on TOTP is the ultimate sell-out, even the Clash
refused this opportunity. Nothing could be calculatedas a worse way of 'doing the
dirty' - that is, not acting 'cleanly' in respectof ethics and politics. This raisesthe
questionwhy.
EMI-signing period to fund DiY activities acrossthe political and cultural production
Watch, and put money into the Iinl2, so helping to fund the studio project I worked 78
.
The actions of Chumbawamba in signing to a major label encapsulate the tug-of-war
The justifications offered by artists for signing with a major record label can
reduced to two popular arguments. Firstly to gain a realistic income ('I am sick of
being poor and putting all this effort in, we can't afford to do anything') though this is
highly unlikely for the vast majority of musicians who sign to labels and remain
unsuccessfU179.
unexplored spacesin order to reach (and duly inspire) a wider audience. From this
views (for example showing videos made by the striking Liverpool Dockers at the
Brit Awards) and spreadtheseviews arounda much wider basethan that achievable
However successful such attempts may be, responsesfrom the hardcore DiY
band is regarded as having sold out. As Mr. C stated above: 'Green Day? Who
cares? Chumbawamba,
different story, you know it is a different story.' The hostile
side of the dilemma level suchaccusationsas: they 'did the dirty', are 'not punk', are
system'. Selling out to a major label often meansfacing a boycott and the withdrawal
of support from inside the DiY community. As previously outlined aboveby Heaton,
the boycotts and pickets by Chumbawambaoutside their NMA shows in the late
1980s,provided bad publicity, yet he maintainedthat they had never beena part of the
DiY philosophy to begin with. NMA were not dedicated to that philosophy, had
never held the anarcho punk torch, and simply viewed the transition from DiY to
the band cost the label more than they signed for and that they were a 'thorn in the
side of EMI' by negotiatinga record deal that allowed them total artistic freedom: in
short, they retained their integrity; at the least, an argumentbasedon the retention of
their artistic integrity could certainly be mounted. This may be a legitimate argument
but the view from the DiY campcan be unforgiving and austere. A very dim view is
taken of any contactwith major labels. Suchcontactis seenas diluting the power and
Chumbawambaselling out. Mr. S&H both statedthat they could totally understand
in many ways why they had signed. They said that Chumbawambahad been
of being ripped off. The only solution was to sign with a major and be exploited
major labels:
If bands are important, if groups and music are important, which they might be, then I
think it's obviously better if they do it themselves.But I meanif somemajor corporation
band rang up and said you know, we're fucked on a Wednesdaynight, the gig's fallen
through and we want to play at the I in 12 club. ProvidedI knew they weren't a bunch of
sort of sexist, racist assholes,if I thought they were going to say somethingreasonably
interesting,somepeoplewant to be here, I'd be more than willing to bring them here and
go: look this is how you can do it without the major corporations.
It's like doing a DiY label, but still driving around in your Mercedestruck, filling up, or
risking driving past Shell. It didn't make that much difference, you're still filling at
some major petro-chemicalcorporation, you're still totally up to your neck in sort of
deepenvironmentaldeath,kind of ecosystem.
This is the centralkey to this dilemma. The majority of the systemis controlled and
are shrinking. They exist only in small pockets. Mr. I similarly suggeststhat DiY
activity is necessaryyet there are few spaceswhere one can be completely DiY, from
the oil used to produce the vinyl, through the chemicals in the plasterboard and
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equipment, there are very few spaceswhere everyday contact with multinational
extremely valuable and play a central role in offering a space virtually free from
corporatedictum and control, wherepolitical voices can be raised free of control. Yet
practice of DiY. Claiming that DiY cultural production is the only authentic form of
culture, means that exclusivity is just around the comer: 'only' quickly becomes
translated into 'elite'. Creating a set of scene rules (not signing to majors, not
manner in the production of DiY, flies in the face of the original intentions of such
core punk rock freedoms as breaking down the rules and challenging boundaries.
Anti-elitism can end up, via an awful loop, in the position it so radically opposes.
There is an equally absolutist reaction to those who are deemed to have sold-out
above and againstthosestill practicing and involved in DiY. This presentsa fiercely
inflexible stanceis itself condemnedby others in and around the scene. 'Cliquey',
'PC' and 'elitist' were someof the denunciationsexpressedin interview towards this
stancein the DiY community. As Mr. S, BS and the customer in the Out of Step
PC, the club was viewed as a bastion of political correctness. Indeed, Mr. D
there is a perceived problem with being DiY, then being negative towards it will
achieve nothing. The preference instead is get involved, think positive and do
something about it. With DiY there is always the opportunity for anybody to get
reality, due to the lack of available funds and the relatively small numbersof people
involved, the capacity for large-scaleDiY action in the UK is limited and the knock-
Chumbawarnbain signing to EMI was that they could increase their financial
Obviously we could say "No we won't havean advert with our music on if' but when we
are offered forty thousanddollars for thirty secondsof music every day for four weeks,
then what we do is give that money to an anti-fascist organisation, social center or
community group (ibid: 128).
Turning their money towards small-scaleDiY projects has allowed Chumbawambato
retain their moral and ethical integrity even though the DlY community remains
divided over their actionsgo.The positive and negativeviews of their signing to EMI
There are those who are militant on the non-DiY front and hail DiY purists as
hypocrites. Jello Biafra, onetime singer with the San Francisco band, The Dead
Kennedys, and whose record label, Alternative Tentacles, has been the second
so It
would be unfortunate for me to present Chumbawambaas'disconnectedfrom the I inl2. They
havemaintainedconstantcontactwith the club since its inception. The last event they played there was
an acousticshow,November2004
'crusty punks' for allegedly selling-outpunk rock (Schalit and Sinker, 2001: 33). He
chastised the American fanzine Maximum Rock n Roll as 'little ayatollahs' for
creating a new set of divisive rules in the punk community and called those who
criticise musicians who sign to major labels 'small-minded and righteous.' The
Int: Mxrimum Rock n Roll seemsdeadset on this line of sectarianpurity, where anything
that createsa basefor masssupportis looked upon with suspicionand ultimately rejected
as a sellout
Biafra: It's the same kind of fundamentalist mind-set that makes fundamentalist
Christians so dangerous,and the samemind-set that has isolated the animal rights and
vegan movements. You take one step out of line and they bite your head off. Young
people who are curious about the politics spendten minutes with people like that and
they decide that they would rather be apathetic. This is what has turned a lot of people
off punk politics (ibid: 44).
Such harsh criticism reflects the often polarised views that exist in punk on selling
out. The problem is at the centre of DiY politics. DiY purists have been accusedof
little chance of ever reaching to the broader body of people whose support would
This thesis has attemptedto establishthe basis for these ethical dilemmas in lived
the complex world of DiY punk as it existedin and betweentwo cities in the North of
England in 2001. Whilst this world was shot through with divisions and peppered
with elitism both in its rhetorical use of genre distinction and its badges of
The dilemmas describedin this thesis retain a sharp, at times corrosive quality
any off-the-hook remedy, not least becausethey are bound up in wider issues of
global monopoly capitalism and its stranglehold over (mass) popular culture.
Whether or not resistanceis bestproducedfrom inside the major labels, or from the
direct action punk, or DiY cultural production? Are thesemutually exclusive or can
within the culture industry? Perhapsthe most difficult issueof all is whetherthere has
ever been,or can ever be, an authenticpunk. In the 'true spirit of DiY', the response
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Maximum Rock n Roll (1994) # 133 Major Labels: Some of your Friends are This
Fucked.
MaximumRock n Roll (1997) # 174.
Punk-Planet.
PunkShocker.
Hughes(2001) Direct Hit: Dffhardcorepunk. Issue 1.
Mclard, K, (1998), Heart Attack 23.
Raisin ' Hell.
ReasonTo Believe.
Whatis the lin]2?: (1995)1in 12 Twelve Pamphlets.
Discography
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SpecialDuties (1982) Bullshit Crass,RondoletRecords.
Sublime (1996)Sublime,GasolineAlley/MCA.
Suicidal Tendencies(1983) Suicidal Tendencies,Frontier Records.
SSD (2000)Power, TaangRecords.
Texasis the reason(1996) Do YouKnow no You.4re21RevelationRecords.
Ile Adicts (1981) SongsofPraise, Dweed Records.
The Alternative (1982) In NomineesPatri, CrassRecords.
The Buzzcocks(1978) Love Bites, United Artists Records.
The Cravats(1982) Rub Me Out, CrassRecords.
The Clash(1977) The Clash, CBS Records.
The Damned(1977) Damned,Damned,Damned,Stiff Records.
The Devils (2003) How Learnedto Stop Worrying and Forget About TheBomb, In At
The DeepEnd Records.
The Dilinger EscapePlan (1997) TheDilinger EscapePlan, RelapseRecords.
1"heEx (1980) Disturbing DomesticPeace,Verrecords.
The 4-Skins (1982) The Good, TheBad and The4-Skins,SecretRecords.
Ile Instigators(1985) Nobody ListensAnymore,Bluurg Records.
The Last Resort(1982) The- Skinhead,CaptainOi records.
The Tliree Johns(I 984).4tomDrum Bop, Abstract Records.
The Scorpions(1980)Animal Magnetism,EMI Records.
The Sex Pistols (1977) NeverMind TheBollocks,Virgin Records.
The Stranglers(1977) RattusNorvegicus,United Artist Records.
The Stupids(1986) Peruvian Vacation,COR Records.
The Snipers(1981) ThreePeaceSuite, CrassRecords.
The Varukers(I 984).AnotherReligion Another War, Riot City Records.
Tygers of PanTang (1982) TheCage,MCA Records.
UFO (1970) Ufo, BeaconRecords.
UK Subs(1979)Another Kind ofBlues, Gem Records.
Vardis (1981) The World's Insane,Logo Records.
Vegan Reich (1990) Hardline 7 ", Hardline Records.
Venom, (1982) Black Metal, Neat Records.
Vice Squad(1981) No CauseFor Concern,EMI/Zonophone.
What HappensNext? (2000) Hollow Victory,Not A ProblemRecords.
X-Ray-SpexGerm Free Adolescents,EMI Records.
Youth of Today (1986) Break Down The Malls, Wishing Well Records.
Websites
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Family?
Background
4) Can you tell me how you first got into punk and hardcore?
Leeds
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Mr. A: (male) Revealedhis age as mid 20s. Moved from Bradford to Leeds 1999.
Participatedin various bandsin the 90s whilst running a DiY record label and distro
Mr. B: (male) 27. Has played in numerousUX hardcorebands. Left Bradford for
Nottingham in 1995. Now employedas a body piercer. T
Mr. BS: (late 30s) Rudely interrupted an interview with Mr. K and offered some
rather unsavoury views on lin12 punk in addition to hailing himself as Bradford's
most knowledgeableand authenticpunk. Currently undera rock somewhere.
Mr. C: 28. Ran a DiY distro, and record label until 2002. Left Bradford for
undiscloseddestination(1999). He returnedto Bradford 2003 to be involved in the
lin12. Presentlysings in a bandand is employedas a graphicdesigner.IF
Mr. E: 33. Left Bradford in 1990for Nottingham. Sangin DiY bandsand promoted
hardcoreshowsin Nottingham. Presentlylives in London, is still singing in hardcore
bands. Works at a large recordshop.T
Mr. F: 20. He left Bradford for Leedsin 2001. Plays in various Bradford crust bands.
Runs a fanzine, MY website and is centrally involved with booking bands at the
lin12. He is still active at the lin12.
Ms. G: 23. Core memberof the I inl2. Involved in the cafd, gig booking and general
day-to-day running of the club. Presently lives in Bradford and is still
closely
involved in the I in 12.
Mr. G: 21. A native of Leedsuntil 2001. Ran DiY record label, was a core
member
of the Reasonto Believe Collective, promoted gigs acrossLeeds. Left Leeds2001 to
travel world. Presentwhereaboutsunknown.
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Mr. H: revealedage as late twenties. Volunteeredat the lin12 from 1999to present
and participatedin various bands. He promoted various heavy music festivals at the
lin12. He still lives and works in Bradford and still volunteersat the club.
Mr. J: 37. Caretakerat the I in 12. J also drummedin one of the key 'britcore' bands
Mr. K: 35. One of the soundengineersat the club and studio collective member. K
has a long standing relationship with the linl2, helping to build the place in 1988.
There are few roles in the club K has not been associatedwith. Moved FROM
Bradford to Leeds in 1999. He is presently involved in DiY promotion and playing
guitar in a band. Currently unemployed.
Mr. L: 38: Robert Heaton, drummer with Bradford band,New Model Army. Played
the lin12 in the early 1980swhen it was hostedgigs in various city pubs. He co-
wrote and released ten albums with them before leaving in 1999. After the band
focussedhis attention on recording and promoting bandsand live music in Bradford,
Ms. M: 25: Cafd Worker and volunteer at the lin12. Promoted a DiY hardcore
festival at the club in 2000. She was a part-time degree student at the time of the
field-research. Currently lives in Bradford.
Mr. Q: 34. Drove bands on DiY tours, general scene participant. Moved from
Bradford to Leeds in 1999. Currently makes guitars in the basementof his house
when he is not driving bandson the road.
Mr. S: 39. Bar worker at the club. Alongside Mr. J, S was the only otherpaid member
of staff at the lin12. He is involved in the daily running of the club bars. Moving to
Bradford in 1982 for a university degree, he became involved with the lin12
Mr. V: 23. Partnerat the Out of StepRecordshop. DiY gig promoter, band member
and record label. Moved from Manchesterto Leedsin 1999. Currently still working
at the shopandplaying in bands.
Ms. W: 28. Worker at I in 12. Gig promoter, I in 12 cafe and bar worker. Left Bradford
for Leedsin 1999. Whereaboutsunknown.
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