Candlestick Patterns Class 1
Candlestick Patterns Class 1
Candlestick Patterns Class 1
<GVRS> Long legged doji: This is a doji with longer wicks on either side.
<GVRS> We see this formation when volatility is high during the day with huge price range,
<GVRS> but the fight between bulls and bears ends at or near
<GVRS> the opening price.
<GVRS> Short ranged doji: This is with small wicks on either side....
<GVRS> A small range day.
<GVRS> price is taking rest before moving again.
<GVRS> Gravestone doji: This has along upper wick with the price opens and closes at the low
of the day.
<GVRS> ie., no wick at the bottom
<GVRS> Dragonfly doji: This is opposite to gravestone doji interms of price action...
<GVRS> long lowe wick with open and close at the high of the day.
<GVRS> and no wick at the top.
<GVRS> All these dojis are pauses before the trend continues...
<GVRS> or reverses
<GVRS> depending on the preceding move and its strength.
<actuaryinmaking> everyone clear so far ?
<GVRS> The context is important.
<alliswell> whether there is some special significance of gravestone and dragonfly doji
<GVRS> Can some one upload a chart with dojis... new members....
<alliswell> for me they are weak reversal signs
<GVRS> AIW, most of the time dojis are pauses in the move.
<GVRS> even though dragonfly looks to be reversing the prices...
<rukmesh123> I am uploading it ...
<GVRS> and we should never judge the reversal on candlestick patterns alone.
<balaji11> http://www.forexrealm.com/technical-...tterns-01.html
<GVRS> like other chart patterns, trend lines, previous support and resistance etc.
<alliswell> infact there are two more dojis in extreme left see candle no 3 and 4
<Rajesh Singh> so we will not treat doji in isolation
<kamalkishoreit> candlestick patterns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doji
<rukmesh123> http://i56.tinypic.com/dywz7r.jpg
<GVRS> ok, thanks...
<GVRS> I will post all the four dojis now.
<rukmesh123> GVRS, can you please check if the 2 doji's are marked correctly in my
link?
<GVRS> http://i54.tinypic.com/6tfdp3.jpg
<actuaryinmaking> All - please refrain from posting from other sites for now...
<GVRS> yes Rajesh.
<Rajesh Singh> ok, tnx
<actuaryinmaking> Let's all focus on what is being covered here and lets work out with live
examples from our Charts as class progesses...
<actuaryinmaking> Just to avoid confusions...thx !
<alliswell>
<GVRS> ok, Rukmesh
<rukmesh123> thanks GVRS
<GVRS> move on to the next one??
<rukmesh123> I have one question
<rukmesh123> does color of these doji's matter ?
<GVRS> Doji does not have colour... opening and closing is same.
<rukmesh123> I mean if we are in uptrend and then we get green doji ... does it signify
anything or it should be red doji to signigy reversal?
<GVRS> Evern if there is a small difference in open and close, it is negligible
<rukmesh123> I mean if the opening / close is very near to same .. the body will be very
small in that case ...
<alliswell> open andclose are same so there is no body of doji rukmesh. thats why no question
of colour
<rukmesh123> ok ... got it GVRS
<GVRS> There is no difference in its effect.
<rukmesh123> thanks GVRS
<GVRS> next one. Spinning tops.
<GVRS> This one is also a single candle formation with small body and wicks on either side.
<angelkhair> What does this four doji signifies respect to trend?
<GVRS> Here, size of the wick is not important.
<GVRS> nor its colour.
<angelkhair> what should we assume when either one of four is formed?
<GVRS> Just a little bigger body than doji... but the effect is same... indecision of the bulls and
bears...
<GVRS> The price is expected to resume its move
<GVRS> in line with the preceding bars.
<GVRS> tiny pic is having some problem it seems...
<GVRS> trying to upload the drawing.
<GVRS> http://i51.tinypic.com/2jezonb.png
<GVRS> is it clear?
<rameshgrk> yes GVRS
<alliswell> yes but its very subjective, for one individual its spinning top and for other its not
<angelkhair> GVRSji may I ask my questions?
<tryingtotrade> yes
<gurprB2J> yes
<GVRS> @angelkhair: We will have another class related to the use of these patterns
<GVRS> Then we will take up questions related to that.
<angelkhair> Ok Thanks, I thought we have class for both
<GVRS> First let us bocome familiar with the patterns...
<GVRS> Try to spot them on charts and post in the forum.
<angelkhair> Ok
<GVRS> You can ask questions regarding pattern description.. if you do not understand..
<angelkhair> Ok
<GVRS> Next one Hammer.
<GVRS> Hammer is a candle with small real body at the upper range and a long tail at the
bottom
<rukmesh123> GVRS .... can you please confirm if the marked candle is spinning top in
this chart .. http://i55.tinypic.com/14o5fzm.jpg
<GVRS> Hammer normally doesn't have a wick at the top...
<GVRS> but a tiny one is permissible.
<alliswell> yeas
<angelkhair> GVRSji please post chart of Spinning Top
<GVRS> Rukmesh, looks like a doji.
<alliswell> 04/06/2011 10:17 <GVRS> http://i51.tinypic.com/2jezonb.png
<rukmesh123> but that candle has small body ...
<angelkhair> GVRS ji from rukmesh chart 2nd may day high bar is sppining top?
<GVRS> But a tiny body... rukmesh. slightly bigger one is necessary
<Passion Trader> rumesh in open and close small diff is acceptable in doji
<rukmesh123> ohh ... so we can have small to none body in doji's
<angelkhair> or the word "TOP" in name of spining top dont signifies it should be on top?
<alliswell> thisis very subjective i will say but it does not matter if its a doji or spinnig top the
effect is same
<rukmesh123> and candle with slightly bigger body will be called as spinning top
<GVRS> Just a few mins. friends. tinypic is giving problems.
<rukmesh123> Angel.. that's good point ... about "TOP" ... did not thought off
<alliswell> yes and effect is same
<rukmesh123> got you .. aiw .. thanks
<alliswell> top is basically lattu
<Passion Trader> rumesh small diff untill it looks spinning top
<alliswell> hindi speaking ppl should be knowing it
<ka.ramakrishnan> gud mrng everyone, i'm new to this forum
<alliswell> so as lattu can go any where while spinning here too, we have indicision
<rukmesh123> sure PT .. now it's clear ...also, lattu from aiw is good explaination
<angelkhair> GVRSji from rukmesh chart 2nd May, 2nd bar is spinning top?
<vimalefx> welcome ramakrishnanjii
<Rajesh Singh> http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8356/63406438.png Uploaded with
ImageShack.us
<alliswell> please google it :
<alliswell> image: spinning top
<Rajesh Singh> does these qualifies as ST
<Passion Trader> pls say it in english AIW lattu????
<alliswell> means TOP
<ka.ramakrishnan> thanx vimal
<alliswell> just google image: spinning top
<GVRS> Hammer: http://i53.tinypic.com/30wat09.png
<alliswell> http://accesstosharedknowledgeandpra...if?w=300&h=241
<johnvar> no pratap it upload pic also
<johnvar> very easy upload
<rameshgrk> john
<angelkhair>
<vimalefx>
<GVRS> Hammer...
<GVRS> Hammer is more potent when there are multiple bearish bars preceding it
<johnvar> @rameshgrk: http://www.tradersaintforum.com/foru...read.php?t=903
<GVRS> or when it forms immediately after breaking the pivot lows in downtrend.
<GVRS> A long range hammer has more power and an ideal one for reversing the trend.
<rameshgrk> thnx john
<vimalefx> thax johnvar
<GVRS> A hammer followed by a bearish bar that closes above the lows of hammer
<GVRS> is more poweful.
<angelkhair> http://i53.tinypic.com/2qvxmr8.png
<GVRS> nice Anglelkhair.
<GVRS> Usually the reversal happens immediately after the pattern formation.
<GVRS> A bullish close above hammer confirms the trend change.
<GVRS> The strength of hammer is weakened when it is followed by multiple hammers one
after the other
<GVRS> it means, the bearish trend is too strong to get reversed.
<GVRS> and it is likely to continues after taking the low of the hammer.
<GVRS> This is same case with bearish WRB.
<GVRS> The WRB restricts the power of hammer
<rukmesh123> "<GVRS> Usually the reversal happens immediately after the pattern
formation. " --> Should we wait for the confirmation as next bar before taking position?
<GVRS> Is that clear... number of points to remember when trading with hammer.
<angelkhair> clear
<rukmesh123> yes
<rameshgrk> yes
<403.forbidden> Good morning ! ..no power...
<GVRS> Rukmesh, yes, normally confirmation is necessary.... But again different scenarios
require differenct actions.
<rukmesh123> thanks GVRS ...
<GVRS> You will come across these things when you are trading intraday methods.
<GVRS> Infact, some of these patterns have been incorporated in our trading methods.
<rukmesh123> specially in Ambush and Swift
<GVRS> You will know these things as you progress in your trading.
<GVRS> It is difficult to explain all of those scenarios hear.
<rukmesh123> sure GVRS ... thanks
<GVRS> For now focuss on pattern definition and finding them on charts.
<GVRS> I think I am not disappointing you...
<rukmesh123> not at all sir ...
<rukmesh123> it's very helpful
<GVRS> Here is the chart: http://i53.tinypic.com/148kgaq.jpg
<Passion Trader> GVRSji what kind of candle is this can we consider this as hammer
<rukmesh123> GVRS .. in your chart 06-May . LOD will be taken as hammer or
Gragonfly doji ?
<GVRS> @Passion Trader: not hammers.... try again
<GVRS> It's dragon fly doji, Rukmesh... Just go by the visual apperance.
<GVRS> The bottom wick should be atleast 2-3 times bigger than the body.
<rukmesh123> yes ... visual appearance of the candles says everything
<GVRS> But do not go by maths and formulas.
<GVRS> One more point:
<GVRS> The colour of the candle is not important. But bullish close has more potential to
reverse.
<GVRS> Any questions on that?
<angelkhair> no
<rukmesh123> you mean .. in downtrend .if we get green hammer .... there are more
chances of reversal?
<GVRS> Yes, but confirmation is necessary.
<rukmesh123> got you ...
<GVRS> Next one Hanging man:
<Passion Trader> clear gvrs thanks
<GVRS> look alike of hammer to deceive us all....
<GVRS> Hanging man looks like exactly the same as hammer.
<rider.royal> GVRS sir, is the top most bar on 10/5 in chart given by you is hammer ?
<GVRS> I am talking about the shape of the candle.... patternswise it is opposite
<rider.royal> one with vlack coloured body with bullish body next bar
<GVRS> No rider, it is doji.
<GVRS> Sorry Rider, looking at the top most bar of the chart.
<rider.royal> ok sir, thnks
<rukmesh123> it has a big body ... does not look like doji ....
<GVRS> But that is not a hammer.
<GVRS> ok, shall I move on...
<rukmesh123> yes ... it 's not hammer as well
<rukmesh123> sure
<tryingtotrade> yes
<angelkhair> Its inverted hammer
<GVRS> The difference between Hammer and hanging man is where you find them on the
chart within the context of the trend.
<kabira> yes
<GVRS> Do not confuse with the shape of the candle.
<amar_candlestick> Gvrs charts of biocon weekly 27-5-11 is it hammer ?
<GVRS> Each candlestick pattern has criteria to validate it.
<GVRS> Amar, I do not have those charts with me now.
<GVRS> We will open a thread where you can post charts with your understanding
<amar_candlestick> ya
<kabira> that will be great, we can post our queries there
<GVRS> let us go back to hanging man..
<GVRS> Hanging man is look alike of hammer to deceive us all....
<GVRS> I am talking about the shape of the candle.... patternswise it is opposite
<GVRS> The difference between Hammer and hanging man is where you find them on the
chart within the context of the trend.
<GVRS> Do not confuse with the shape of the candle.
<GVRS> Each candlestick pattern has criteria to validate it.
<GVRS> Hanging man has a small real body at the upper range
<GVRS> with very small or no wick at the top and a long bottom.
<GVRS> It is a bearish signal forms after an uptrend.
<balaji11> Normally is Hanging Man is bearish and Hammer is bullish
<GVRS> Colour of the body is not important and again negative close has more bearish
implications.
<angelkhair> http://i51.tinypic.com/a4vtc1.png
<GVRS> Observe the bullish close below the wick high... still bearish
<angelkhair> Yes
<rider.royal> understood
<GVRS> Again, It is not always bearish. The context is important.
<GVRS> I will show you another example chart where the trend continued after forming
shooting star.
<GVRS> http://i54.tinypic.com/723n5z.png
<rukmesh123> basically, we should always wait for next candle for confirmation of trend
reversal ..correct?
<GVRS> Rukmesh, again it depends on the method you are trading.
<GVRS> What will you do if this pattern forms after uptrend with a gap up?
<GVRS> You must be knowing it if you are trading flow30
<GVRS> ok, let us concentrate on the patterns for now.
<rukmesh123> it means the uptrend is in question now .. will wait for the next candle for
confirmation
<rukmesh123> am i correct?
<GVRS> Rukmesh, just go through the flow 30 method once again.
<GVRS> Next pattern..
<GVRS> Bullish belthold:
<rukmesh123> sure GVRS
<GVRS> After multiple down bars price gaps down to an area of support and closes strong
near it's highs.
<GVRS> Close should be higher than open and with a large body.
<GVRS> it means a huge gap down and moves in the opposite direction.
<GVRS> It need not be a WRB and not a spinning top too. just a good bodied candle.
<GVRS> sorry friends, a small gap. let us continue. we have just another two patterns for
today.
<ramlaa> ok
<rukmesh123> are we still on ? ..unable to see any new msg for past 8mins
<rukmesh123> hmmm... everyone is here
<403.forbidden> ok
<GVRS> Bullish belt hold is a single candlestick pattern. It's close should be bellow the last
bearish candles close.
<ramlaa>
<GVRS> So, there is still a gap between the close of the candles.
<GVRS> This is not a very strong reversal pattern.
<GVRS> It's strength is to the extent of reversing decline within an uptrend.
<GVRS> http://i56.tinypic.com/bjemgn.png