McCabe - Living and Loving With Asperger Syndrome
McCabe - Living and Loving With Asperger Syndrome
McCabe - Living and Loving With Asperger Syndrome
of related interest
An Asperger Marriage
Gisela and Christopher Slater-Walker
Foreword by Tony Attwood
ISBN 1 84310 017 7
Aspergers in Love
Maxine Aston
ISBN 184310 1157
Asperger’s Syndrome
A Guide for Parents and Professionals
Tony Attwood
Foreword by Lorna Wing
ISBN 1 85302 577 1
Living and Loving
with Asperger Syndrome
Family Viewpoints
The right of the contributors to be identified as authors of this work has been
asserted by them in accordance with the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act
1988.
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Biographical Note 6
Acknowledgements 7
Introduction 9
1. A Bird’s Eye View 11
2. Living with an Asperger Husband 23
3. Staying Married and Enjoying it! 33
4. The Basics of Living with an Asperger Dad 47
5. The Three Stages
of Growth with an Asperger Parent 61
6. An Even Closer Look at the Asperger Parent 69
7. Raising a Child While Enjoying Each Other 89
8. Professional and Personal Relationships
as Seen by Friends and Co-workers 95
9. Some Differences between Asperger People
and Others: How to Understand “Normal” People 127
10. A Look at Positive Aspects
of Having Asperger Syndrome 137
Biographical Note
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Introduction
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10 Living and Loving with Asperger Syndrome
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12 Living and Loving with Asperger Syndrome
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24 Living and Loving with Asperger Syndrome
Staying Married
and Enjoying it!
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person. I must also tell the story in the order of events, not
jumping to the end or leaving essential parts of the story
out. In this way, I stay on track allowing Patrick to
understand my communication.
Having time alone is a necessity. If Patrick does not get
the time alone he needs, his frustration level slowly builds,
without the pressure being relieved. The end result can be
damaging to a relationship. The way Patrick fulfills this
need is to lie still and alone on the bed, in his favorite chair
or on the floor with a pillow with silence and darkness.
When he does get time without people, radios or dogs,
Patrick becomes peaceful and his head clears.
Early on in our marriage, Patrick always came up with
a reason to pull away, be still and quiet, with a T-shirt over
his head. He was just resting, thinking or having allergy
problems, etc. He knew he needed that time. And I knew if
he did not get that time, there would be problems! So,
when he had his time alone, he was a nicer guy for it.
These days, we try to schedule in that time alone. If Patrick
can get the time alone he needs before it becomes an issue,
I can still get the interaction I need with him. It works well
this way.
For trust to develop there must be total, brutal honesty
in a relationship. Without trust, there cannot be a
relationship. Patrick would rather have truth even if he
does not like what he hears. Eventually, he would find out
the truth and the trust would be broken. In our
relationship, I need to be completely honest about what I
want or need. For example, I need to let Patrick know how
often I need hugs or when I need them. I need to tell him
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Patrick’s view…
Touch is very powerful. To me, it is either a great
experience or an unpleasant one. At times, it feels like
being shoved, or poked. There is really no middle ground,
at least not much of one. Estelle and I have taught each
other how each of us view touch and what it does to us in
different situations. I plan to touch Estelle according to
how she likes it, not on what I want. I realize she likes a lot
of it. I make an effort to touch her non-sexually
throughout the day, often. If I make this heartfelt routine a
reality, it helps her know I love her. It also prepares her for
more passionate touch! Estelle and I hug in the morning
and kiss in the afternoon, before and after work. In the
evening we often sit in my big chair together; I touch her
hand, leg, etc., for a length of time. Brevity does not count
when it comes to touching.
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white lies” are not acceptable since I will not know what to
believe or not believe from someone. Words must always
be completely and totally honest. I cannot be close to
someone that lies to me; there is no foundation for the
relationship. Correct words are words used as defined, or
used by the general population. I give the people in
meaningful relationships to me more attention and
intensity when they talk. Because of that, I pay more
attention to detail. If the conversation is frustrating, I
would rather not talk. One cannot avoid talking and still
keep a relationship.
I do need regular time alone, which is preferred once a
day. Absolute darkness and silence is best although
sometimes I listen to Morse code to mellow me out. The
dits and dahs are like music, beautiful music. This time
alone is planned, so as not to interfere with what is
important to my family. Usually this is very preventative in
nature. If I have sufficient time alone, then I can be nicer to
those around me. If not, then my frustration comes out in
ways that hurt others.
Talking often and honestly about frustrating areas in
our marriage, before getting too frustrated is important.
Understanding how each of us views intimacy, socializa-
tion, clothing, routines, communication, time alone and
trust gives us satisfaction in our relationship. This, in turn,
has grown our marriage to be healthy and strong.
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Feeling
I remember vividly about six years ago I was trying to strip
the plastic casing off some electrical wire so that I could
put an extra light bulb in my room. I had just sharpened
my Swiss army knife to a razor sharp edge. I was using it to
shave off the casing when I slipped and cut my finger
down to the bone. Of course blood was spurting
everywhere and my friend who was there at the time kind
of got sick and panicked at the same time. I got my mom
and got the blood stopped and it fixed up, etc. When my
dad came home from work I told him in detail what had
happened and I had him look at it. During the whole time
he showed no emotion of any kind. He glanced at it and
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Punctuality
Punctuality is a characteristic exhibited in people not
affected by the syndrome, but never as extreme as in
people that have the syndrome. For example, one day a
while ago, I had to go to a guitar lesson after school. I took
my guitar and my bicycle and rode out to my teacher’s
house because it is too far to walk to without taking too
long and being late. I got to her house and had my lesson,
paid my teacher and walked out the door over to my
bicycle. As I put my guitar on top of my bike (it is a small
BMX that I still use because it handles nicely), I realized
my back tire was flat. I was done with my lesson and I had
no more deadlines that night so I decided to walk my bike
home. I figured that maybe I would be about half an hour
late for supper. I knew that my parents would understand
because I couldn’t do anything about my tire until I got
home. I walked home. It took me about forty-five minutes
because I had to go really slow, so that my guitar would
not get bumped and get out of tune and so on and so forth.
I arrived at my house about thirty minutes late for supper.
Right as I pulled my bicycle into the gate and started to
unlock the door, my dad and mom pulled up on their
motorcycle. I figured that they had gone to the grocery
store or something. But as I looked at their faces, I knew
that something was wrong. My dad was especially worked
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up. He tried to be very calm about it, but I could tell that he
was furious. He asked me where I had been and what I was
doing worrying my mother and him like that. I told him
that I had gotten a flat tire and that I came home as fast as
possible, but that it took me a long time because I had to
deal with both the bicycle and the guitar at the same time.
He announced that I was grounded until further notice
and that maybe we could talk about it tomorrow morning
when he had calmed down. Me, knowing that the best
thing was to keep my mouth shut until he had calmed
down said, “OK.” I put my stuff away and then hung out
in my room for the rest of the night, except for when he
called me out to question me about what had happened.
Now, not knowing the circumstances about why I was
late, many people would say, “Well yeah, I might have
been mad too,” but now that I have explained them, I hope
to illustrate my point. I will compare what happened there
with what has happened with my friends’ parents when
they have done the same exact thing or even worse. My
friends’ parents have simply said, “Oh OK, I was getting
ready to call your friends to see if you had stayed at one of
their houses. I’m glad that you are OK. Don’t scare your
old dad so much!” Whereas, my Dad went looking for me
and grounded me for the night.
One thing that I would suggest is that you tell your
parent that you might be late even though you are 100
percent sure that you will be home on time. The other
thing is that you make all possible effort to be about five
minutes early all the time for all occasions, no matter how
unimportant, so as to relieve their stress and not get
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wood terms, a cord is about eight feet long, two feet wide
and four feet tall, cut and stacked.) I had just had my
wisdom teeth removed the week before. I had a sinus
infection from that that I was taking my second set of
antibiotics for, as well as the Motrin for the pain and
swelling in my mouth. My dad also was sick with some
sort of chest infection. My mom had something also,
although I don’t remember what it was. None of us really
should have been working, but my Dad had planned this
ahead of time and he was going to get it done. We had
borrowed a chain saw from my dad’s work and we were
using it to cut the logs. The logs were too big for the puny
chain saw. We were going to get the wood done so we
used it anyway. About two hours through, we had about
half of our work done but the logs that were left were the
biggest ones. Our chainsaw got very dull and the engine
started acting up. We figured that the engine problem
might be gas, so we gave it some more gasoline and chain
oil. We proceeded to cut the logs but the chainsaw only
worked about quarter speed. On top of that, the chain was
about as dull as a butter knife. It took us at least fifteen
minutes to make one cut out of about two on a log. We
really should have quit when the motor messed up, but it
was necessary that we finish what we had started. It must
have taken us at least another four hours to finish cutting
everything. It was like cutting a steak with a butter knife
that was just ground, blade first into some pavement.
There is no way to really avoid this. You can only learn
to deal with this and understand it so that you will not be
so frustrated when something like this happens. You have
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Need to help
Something that ties into this is the Asperger person’s need
to help people; this is nice if you want to be helped with
everything imaginable, but the way in which this help
presents itself sometimes can be maddening. The thing
that you must realize is that when an Asperger person
helps you with something, he will not stop helping you
until the job is completely done. This means that even if
you want to quit doing something, they will not let you.
Also the way that they help you sometimes is in the very
strict routines and guidelines of the Asperger mind. The
key here is just to tell them if you want them to quit
helping you.
Wording
Another interesting thing about Asperger Syndrome is
wording and pronunciation. Everything has to be said
exactly right. Everybody has to “mean what they say, and
say what they mean.” A good example was just about half
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Commitment/loyalty
One of the best things about people with Asperger
Syndrome is the fact that they are loyal and committed.
They have a much better sense of commitment and they
are also much better lifelong friends than other people. A
good example of this is when I got in a fistfight at a church
when I was about six years old. It was at AWANA’s (a Bible
club for kids) and there was this kid there who wouldn’t
leave me alone. I told him on numerous occasions to leave
me alone and that I would punch him if he didn’t. He did
not listen to me and so I punched him right there in front
of God and everybody. His nose started bleeding and so
on and so forth. The AWANA leaders gave me a real hard
time and lectured me on the verse about turning the other
cheek, and how what I had done was so terrible, and how
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Routines
One interesting thing about people with Asperger
Syndrome is that everything has to be in the right place
and stay there unless they are notified that it was moved.
There must be a good reason for it to be moved. The only
exception to this rule is if they move it. This only applies
to their personal stuff. As far as the rest of the world, it
must be neat and orderly, but it does not have to be
immaculate and under keen surveillance. For example, our
house has to be swept and mopped on a weekly basis. The
trash and the vacuuming have to be done daily. My room
is kind of considered a “no-zone” where he psychs himself
up before he comes in. And his side of their bedroom is all
nice and picked up, and my mom’s is normal.
He also has his routines that he started, God knows
how long ago, that he still follows. He gets up at four in
the morning, plans the day, does his quiet time, takes his
shower and then gets to work at about six fifteen to six
thirty, when he has to be there at seven o’clock. To
“normal” people this may seem crazy, but it keeps him
sane. If he does not have these routines, or if one of them
gets messed up, it stresses him out beyond belief. If this
happens, then he has to fix it, or the rest of his day is
ruined.
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school. I had to give him report cards when they came out
and I got grounded for bad grades. Anyway, now that I am
older, education is in my hands and that has been a
journey all its own. Now, however, the main issue is
staying out late with my friends. My dad’s normal routine
is to go to bed at eight or nine and for me to get home
about eleven from work, and go to bed about then.
When I started asking to go out with my friends until
one thirty, you can imagine that I got some raised
eyebrows. Not only is it a change in routine, from an
“adult’s” perspective, that is late for a seventeen-year-old
to be out. At first he did not want me to be out past
midnight. Then when he realized that I was responsible
enough to stay out later, and he got used to the change in
routine, he started letting me stay out later. If you are in
the same predicament that I was/am in, then my best
advice to you is to get your parent used to the change
slowly. Change for an AS person takes lots of time and
energy. Let them get used to it for a while or you will not
get anything that you want.
Overall, living with an AS parent has been a challenge
as well as an excellent growing experience. It certainly has
its ups as well as its downs. I regret the fact that I had to
focus on the negative aspects of this parent–child
relationship, but the only things that I could foresee your
needing advice on were the things that created problems.
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Structure
An important part of learning how to effectively live and
work with an AS person is to understand them as beings
that sometimes act like cyborgs. They are human in
appearance and principle, but the way that they think is
oftentimes like a robot. Everybody has seen those cheesy
seventies and eighties TV shows where there is some evil
invincible robot that must be destroyed. The hero in the
story then devises a plan to make the robot short circuit by
feeding it information that it cannot compute. It then
slowly dies, chanting the uncomprehendable string of
information as it melts into the floor.
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Details
AS people can pick out, remember, and fix detailed things
(that would be considered difficult for us), with great ease.
This can be a very positive side of the syndrome. However,
if the person with AS happens to be your parent, then this
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pick apart even the most complex entity. For them to relax,
every detail must be right and in order. To them,
relaxation is having everything (down to the exact detail)
go as planned in their routines. Details form the base of an
Asperger person’s life. Without details, there would be
nothing to base their numerous routines upon. To the AS
person, details keep life manageable as well as understand-
able. This is why they are so organized, and they have
exceptional skills in detail work. When you are working
with them, even around the house, you will see that they
are seemingly obsessed with making sure that every detail
is correct.
get it done. You can talk to your parent about this but s/he
will most likely not back down, because it is in his/her
routine to eat supper at six so therefore you must eat
supper at six. Now if you ask him to change his routine so
that he knows that every night you will eat supper and do
homework at seven, then he might agree to that. Ask him
to also tell you stuff like when you have to be home in
private, that way it is less embarrassing to you and you do
not look like a little kid in front of your friends. If you
explain this stuff to him, he will most likely be willing to
do this for you, but if you do not do this then s/he will
have no idea how quickly it yanks down your “koolness”
factor.
Communication
This brings up another interesting point about AS: commu-
nication is very important. Communication is perhaps the
most vital part of living with an Asperger person in
harmony. You see, a lot of times people with AS do not
pick up on things that the rest of us would think are
obvious. For instance, I might think that my dad knows
that I am hungry because I have worked six hours with no
food. But unless I tell him that I am going to fall down and
die unless I eat within the next thirty seconds, the thought
that I am hungry will not even cross his mind. People with
AS do not feel things like we do. For this reason, it is
absolutely essential to communicate with your Asperger
parent and tell him things like this. A good thing that I
have learned is to ask him what the best way to talk to him
is. If you want something from your parent, like most if
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Frustration
One of the most important and difficult subjects to cover
is how to deal with your parent when s/he is angry with
you. Inevitably, even if you are the best kid in the world,
you will get into conflict with them sometime, so I am
going to give you some guidelines to follow in conflict.
One important thing to remember is that when an
Asperger person gets angry, it can go from being very
small (frustration) to being very big (anger) in a short
amount of time. You often have very little warning, and it
can be very surprising or bewildering to the unsuspecting
person. The key to calming the situation down is to
remain calm yourself. If you get upset, it will only get
worse and your parent’s frustration will rise, causing the
situation to escalate.
A critical skill to learn is to teach yourself to recognize
the telltale signs that indicate that that you are putting
wood on the fire. I have become angry with my dad
because all of a sudden he would freak out and become all
upset over the littlest thing imaginable. I eventually
explained this to him and he said, “Well, it is an
accumulation of things and that one little thing is the
straw that breaks the camel’s back. If you look carefully
you will notice that there are signs that an explosion is
coming.” For example, on Sunday I could not take out the
trash, on Tuesday I could not brush the dog, and on
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Wednesday I could not close the shed doors all the way.
By the time Friday rolls around and I forgot to check the
mail, my dad will be very frustrated with me and almost
any little thing I do wrong will set him off.
Now this may not be obvious because your parent will
appear to not be bothered at all and they may not even say
anything to you until it all builds up. Then you can be sure
that you will hear about it! When you get home from
school Friday night you will notice the difference in your
parent by the way he talks or doesn’t talk to you, and how
he is acting towards you. Now when s/he sits you down
to talk about your transgressions, be sure to not have an
attitude, because s/he will notice that and it will just add
more wood to the already sky high fire. The first thing to
do if you want to get it over with quickly is to take respon-
sibility for what he is saying that you did and apologize
appropriately. If you do not do that, then cancel your plans
for the night because he will not let you go until you have
logically gone through each step that you took to commit
the crime and you have acknowledged your guiltiness.
Now the chances are high that you are not going to agree
with what your parent is saying, so tell him that, but make
sure you explain why and do so respectfully.
Do not make a bunch of excuses because that will
make him/her angrier and your sentence harder.
Remember that AS people function on logic, and they
especially revert to it when they experience an emotional
disturbance! So remember to make your defense as logical
as possible, and it will go much smoother for you. The
clearer that your parent understands what you are trying
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Wow! You just got an earful from our son in the last three
chapters! It’s hard not to notice his candor and flare for
words. In this chapter, we’re going to talk about how
Estelle and I work together in raising this young man. My
Asperger Syndrome adds another dimension to what is
already seen by some as a daunting task.
It is quite amazing how two people can view the same
incident in radically different ways. To keep sanity in our
home, Estelle and I have created a few tools, giving us all a
good foundation to build on. Now, we will discuss how
Estelle and I give Jared a vision for life and show him how
to get there. We will explain our process of interpretation
of each other to Jared. We will show how we live out
well-defined roles as Mom and Dad. The benefit of inter-
personal communication will also be considered as it
concerns areas of friction and certainly the major issues
regarding Jared.
Estelle gives Jared the vision and I show him how to
get there. This is accomplished by taking opportunities to
exclaim his great potential. His mother tells him to run for
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that since Patrick enjoys deep issues rather than just chit
chatting, one would be wise to think before answering his
questions!
Another difficulty in relating with others comes in the
form of confusion and frustration. When Lenina first
began working with Patrick, she didn’t like him and her
impression of him was negative. He was confusing and she
often was frustrated with her inability to understand him.
He spoke in a realm which was difficult to comprehend.
She then found that he was extremely intelligent,
therefore having a hard time coming down to our level to
communicate in a way we can understand. Because of this,
Lenina believes that AS people are easily misunderstood.
Eventually, she found Patrick to be reliable, having
knowledge, integrity and someone she could trust.
Lenina’s confusion from her initial conversations was on a
personal level, but she didn’t allow that to hinder her
desire to work with him.
Paul brought up another important factor in relating;
the thinking of Asperger people is different than others.
Their thinking is objective, not emotional. Paul says that
this is important to understand when sharing something
emotional with a person who thinks objectively. The
discussion must be objective rather than emotional. So
Paul explains that if there is an offense needing to be
aired, one should think through it before talking about it.
How can this be communicated in a way that will be
understood? Simply dumping emotion onto the objective
Asperger individual will not attain the desired outcome.
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employees may not feel trusted. Paul stresses the need for
employees not to take having their work being cut to
shreds (by their detail-oriented boss) personally. Patrick
only desires for his personnel to strive for a higher level of
work performance. Paul also shares another way he’s
learned to deal with Patrick’s attention to detail, to always
turn work in early. This ensures he will have plenty of time
for corrections!
Though Patrick is extremely detailed, at times he only
wants simplicity. Paul shares an amusing situation that
happened recently. He had worked hard to supply his boss
with a very detailed agricultural report/forecast. He felt
pleased with his work, confident that Patrick would be
happy with it. But much to his surprise, he received a call
from Patrick asking, “Paul, could you make this more
simple? We don’t need all the details.” Was he hearing
correctly? This was not the Patrick he had grown to
understand! He was quite shocked and bewildered! What
Paul didn’t know was that the management team from
headquarters couldn’t understand the massive amounts of
detail and agricultural terminology. They were having
detail overload! Though the report was wonderful to
Patrick, with all details fine-tuned, it was confusing the
ones who had requested the information.
To the AS manager, attention to detail in work area
cleanliness shows how well you are performing. To
Patrick, a tidy work area represents the high quality of
work being accomplished. If a person does not take the
time for the details of cleanliness, he also must not care
about what he is doing. Paul suggests that new employees
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around and locate stores where they could find items they
would need in the future. Upon disembarking from our
vehicles, everyone had collected what was needed and was
ready for the journey. However, Patrick stood stock still
by the car and would not move. He was unable to just walk
around, and needed a specific plan to follow. This put a
temporary damper on the mood as no one knew which
shops were where and we had no map to guide us along.
After Patrick came up with a structure he could follow, our
little group started out. Each weekend also needs a
definite plan to follow. It is not okay to just wait and see
what the day will hold. A plan needs to be made and
executed for peace to be had.
The perception of accomplishing is another note-
worthy topic. Often normal people like to do nothing, but
there is no room in the Asperger mind for that concept. In
our home, we have an individual affectionately called
“The White Tornado.” This is a nickname Patrick has well
earned for his constant high level of productivity (plus his
desire for constant and complete cleanliness). Activities
must be challenging, or he becomes easily bored. Even
though Patrick performs an exhausting job as an
operations and facilities manager for a rescue mission, he
still is not satisfied. Patrick has written a manual, and
given training at national level, for the mission. It is
important for others to understand Patrick’s need for this
constant high level of performance, or they may feel
threatened by what they consider competition. Part of
meeting his need for challenges is his present work of
writing this book. He also is currently studying a new
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