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Table Of Contents
1. Online Dating 5
2. The Sequence And The Attitude 9
3. Preparation 18
4. Choose Your Battlefield 22
5. Your Profile 27
6. Choose Your Targets 39
7. The Email Opener 47
8. Email Communication 50
9. Scheduling The First Date 57
10. Comfort Bombardment 64
11. Battling The Flake Factor 70
12. You Did It! 73
13. Going Forward From Here 75
FAQ 77
Glossary 80
Chapter One
Online Dating
Like many men in the modern era, by my mid-thirties I
found myself divorced. Before my marriage, I led a single
life where dating, relationships, pretty girls, and sex were
present, but a hassle. There was drama, compromises, hurt
feelings, lots of money spent (on my part, of course) and lots
of wasted time. I decided to look at women, relationships,
and sex in a more relaxed and systematic matter.
My goal was to set things up where I could literally “press a

button” and have dates (and sex) with beautiful women,
whenever I felt like it. I didn’t want to try things that didn’t
work. I didn’t want to wonder about what worked and what
didn’t. And I didn’t want to waste time. I wanted a
SYSTEM.
I wanted a system that was reliable and repeatable. A

system for attracting beautiful women into my life.
First, I had to figure out where to find these women.

Second, I needed a system for bringing these women home
to my bed.
For finding the women, I didn’t want to scour the streets,

grocery stores, and bookstores trying to pick up women that
way (though later, I did become good at that). Also, I’m not
a big drinker or partier, so hanging out at bars, clubs, and
parties didn’t turn me on either. Lastly, I’m a self-employed
guy with a business life that is very important to me, so
staying out late into the evening on weeknights was not an
option…that ruled out meeting women at dance clubs and
the like.
So I went to the internet.

I tried approaching women on sites like MySpace and

Facebook, but my results were spotty at best. Not all women
on these sites are looking to be hit on by men. Plus, many
women were sensitive about the age difference between
myself and them. As of this writing I’m in my late thirties,
and I date women from age 18 all the way to the late 40’s.
Age is just not something I care about when it comes to
women; as long as a woman is attractive, intelligent, and not
whiny, I’m in.
(Since then, I have completely mastered the art of dating

with women from social networking sites like MySpace and
Facebook, so we will cover this topic later.)
So I quickly moved on to dating sites. I figured these were

better, since all these women are actively looking for a man
to date.
And I was right.
Within a few weeks of experimentation, I was going out on

numerous dates with some of the most beautiful women I
have ever seen in person in my entire life. I just couldn’t
believe it.
It took a while. I had to test and experiment with different

kinds of dating sites, different kinds of emails to send to
women, which types of women were more likely to date me,
when to pitch the first date, where to go on the first date,
how to minimize women flaking or rescheduling the first
date, and on and on.
But after months of experimentation, I got there. I had my

calendar full of first dates with beautiful, fun women.
I had solved the first part of the equation: where to find

beautiful women. Next, I had to figure out how to have sex
with these woman. But that wasn’t all. Having sex with a
woman can be easy. Just promise to be her boyfriend, and
might have sex with you. Maybe.
This was not for me. Have always believed that you can’t
get “serious” with someone until AFTER you know that
person is sexually compatible for you. I wanted to have sex
first, THEN determine if she was the kind of woman I
wanted to traditionally date.
So my goal was, and always has been, how to have sex with
beautiful women, without having to lie, without having to
stay up late into the evening, with the minimum amount of
work, time, money spent, and drama dealt with.
So I went on tons of first dates. I made notes on what

worked and what didn’t. I tracked what I did and didn’t do,
and my results. I read many books and web articles on
female psychology, dating, and sex. I studied dating experts
and “pickup artists” and their technique. Most of these guys
were picking up women at bars and clubs…not my style.
But, there were plenty of things they were doing that I found
I could implement, thus improving my own system.
I continued to experiment, trying different things on

different women, over and over again.
Soon, I noticed specific patterns of things I ran into again

and again. And I developed techniques to use them to my
advantage or to overcome them.
This was all a few years ago. My system is now perfected. I

now can, whenever I want, I can implement the system
(“press a button”), and have sex with sex with two to four
new women every single month, with minimal effort, time,
and money. Even better, every woman I have sex with is an

“eight” or higher using an attractiveness scale from one to
ten. The average amount of face-time I spend with a new
woman, grand total, from the moment I first meet her in
person to when we have sex is four to five hours…and often
less that that. The total amount of money I spend from the
moment I meet her to when we have sex, on average, when I
do actually spend money, is around 32 dollars. About 25%
of the time, it’s zero dollars.
The good news is that this system is reliable and repeatable.

Once you learn it, you will be able to do the same exact
thing I do.
I have broken this system down into two separate manuals.

The first manual (this one) is exactly what to do to use the
internet to fill your calendar with first dates with attractive,
cool women. The second manual, Dating Women: Getting
To Sex As Quickly As Possible, covers exactly what to do to
get from the first minute of the first date to sex as quickly as
possible within the above parameters (without needing to
stay up late into the evening, with the minimum amount of
effort, time, and money, and without having to lie.)
Whether your goal is to just date and have fun, or find a

girlfriend, or future wife, or just have sex, this book will
help you. If you want to meet, or date, or have sex with
women, with a minimum amount of time or money spent,
without having to lie, and without having to go to bars or
clubs, this book is for you.
One more thing…I use lots of terms and acronyms in this

book. If you ever get confused, there is a glossary at the
very end of this book to help you.
Let’s get started!
Chapter Two
The Sequence And The Attitude
In this book, you are going to learn how to schedule as many

first dates as you want with attractive women from online
dating and social networking sites. This the sequence were
are going to follow:
1. Determine your dating sites to use.
2. Set up your profile.
3. Find targets.
4. Email blitz to targets.
5. Communicate with prospects.
6. Schedule dates with prospects.
7. Establish comfort with confirmed prospects.
8. Ensure minimum amount of “flaking” prior to the first

date.
9. Have the first date.
During the dating process you will move a woman from one
category to the next, ending in a final category of your
choosing. The categories, in chorological order, are:
1. Target. A woman who you’ve seen on the internet and

who looks interesting to you.
2. Prospect. A women you’re communicating with online

who seems to be interested in you. Whether or not she
actually is interested in you is unknown at this point.
3. Confirmed Prospect. A woman who has scheduled a

actual first date with you, with a date, time and place,
but the date hasn’t happened yet.
4. Dating Prospect. A woman you’ve been on at least

one date with, though nothing has happened between
the two of you other than talking or maybe some
casual kissing.
5. ONS. One Night Stand. A woman you have sex with,

and never have sex with again. (This is not really my
style, but that may be something you enjoy.)
6. FB. Friends with Benefits. A woman you’ve dated

and had sex with, and who you really have no desires
for beyond just sex.
7. WD. Woman you’re Dating. A woman you are

dating, having sex with, and have real feelings for, but
one you are not exclusive with (yet…or maybe ever).
8. LTR. Long Term Relationship. A woman you’ve

dated, had sex with, and have made some
commitments to.
This book covers the very beginning of the online process all
the way to the beginning of the first date. Thus, it tackles
women in the above categories 1, 2, and 3. In Dating
Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible, we discuss
specific details on how to get from the first date to having
sex with her…but frankly, a lot of the heavy lifting is
already accomplished once she is sitting across from you,
relaxed, with a level of rapport, comfort, and mystery

already established. More on this later.
Here are some overall realties to keep in mind as you date

online and move through this sequence:
Time Is Against You
When dating online, time is your absolute ENEMY. Every

single MINUTE that passes between when you first start
emailing a woman back and forth and when you actually
meet her in person REDUCES your chances of ever seeing
her.
I cannot tell you how many times I have been

communicating with an absolutely gorgeous babe, we’ve got
a first meet scheduled, and she’s DYING to meet me, and
she’s sending me texts about how amazing I am, or how
much she wants to have sex with me, or whatever, but then
the meet gets rescheduled and delayed because of work
emergencies, or family emergencies, or her being out of
town, or holidays, or bad weather, or sickness, or whatever,
and then when I try to re-schedule, she either ignores my
communication or says “Actually, I’ve started seeing
someone and want to see where this goes…..”
Remember this: When dating online, ALL the men she

knows in real life are higher priority than you.
If any one of these guys makes a move (and the better

looking she is, the more likely they will), you’re OUT. This
is why it’s SO critical to nail down that first date as quickly
as possible, and have it be as SOON as possible. Be forceful
about it. Often, you’ll have a situation where a women who
is really interested in you will say “Hey, there’s no rush,
let’s keep talking and getting to know each other.” Or “I
don’t meet people until I get to know them better.” DON’T
buy into that! There IS a rush. If you buy into this and just
“keep talking”, in a week she will suddenly not be
responding to your emails/texts/phone calls…because she’ll
be having sex with some other guy.
A very hard concept for men to swallow is that women like

to talk forever to guys online. They really enjoy it, even if
they never end up meeting you. You avoid this phenomenon
buy pushing for a real life meet, and do it very soon.
Remember this rhyme: Don’t waste time when online.
You Must Put In The Numbers
Throughout this book, I’m going be repeating this over and

over again, so get used to it. This dating system will NOT
work if you run it on one woman at a time. You must make
sure you are running this sequence on MANY women at a
time, as many as possible in fact…not one at a time. When
I’m in full dating mode, I literally have 15 to 45 women
somewhere in the process.
That might sound like a lot, but as you read further and learn
the system, it really isn’t. These numbers are necessary,
even IF your goal is to find a serious girlfriend or wife.
This is because:
1. No matter how cool you are, rich you are, good looking
you are, or desirable you are, the vast majority of the women
you email will not respond.
2. About 40% of the women who do respond and

demonstrate interest will suddenly stop emailing you and
you’ll never hear from them again.
3. About 20% of the women you schedule a first meet with

will cancel on you and you’ll never hear from them again.
4. About 80% to 30% (depending on how good your real-life

skills are with women are) of the woman you have a first
date with will not want to see you again.
5. Some women YOU will determine you don’t like after the
first date, and won’t want to see again.
See why doing this on a one-woman-at-a-time basis won’t

work? Or even five women at time? You simply MUST put
in the numbers to overcome this attrition. This is the most
important overall concept in this entire book…don’t get
hung up on one “perfect” woman! Put in the numbers!
Confidence and Outcome Independence
Some men date a lot and/or talk to a lot of women, know a

lot of women, perhaps go on lots of first “dates” (or similar),
but never get laid. Other men date and actually get laid a lot,
almost effortlessly. The difference between these two types
of men is two things: confidence and outcome independence
(or OI).
Confidence means you can sit across from a Hollywood-

level gorgeous woman, and be totally relaxed and unafraid.
Confidence is demonstrated by things like talking slowly
and deeply, slow movements, solid eye contact, a relaxed,
kicked-back demeanor, laughter, and a big smile.
Confidence is not “acting cool” or “acting tough”. No, a
truly confident man doesn’t have to do either of these things.
Confidence is acting relaxed and at ease.
OI means that you literally don’t care. You don’t care if you
ever see this woman ever again. You don’t care what she
thinks about you. If she rips off her clothes and throws
herself at you, or she ends up calling you an asshole and

storms off, never seeing you again…it’s all the same to you.
You just don’t care.
Confidence and OI are very, very attractive qualities to

women. As a matter of fact, the more attractive and
desirable a woman is, the more attracted she will be to men
who are confident and outcome independent. Confidence
and OI, when combined, are literally a love potion that
works almost every time.
In this book, we’re going to cover a lot of technique, and

technique is critical. However, if you are:
1. Confident, and
2. Don’t care about the outcome
…your technique can be POOR, and you will still be

successful with women.
Whereas, if you are:
1. Inwardly nervous or feel unworthy, and/or
2. Really, really care a lot about what happens and how this
ends up
…even if your technique is PERFECT, the only time you

will score is if you are really lucky, or if she’s really drunk.
You must master confidence and OI before your technique

will do anything of real value for you. If you start
communicating with women online in a nervous or needy
way, you will have to contact a lot more women, and work
much harder to score dates.
You may already be a confident, outcome-independent guy.

That’s great. But what if you’re not? How do you develop
confidence and OI if you don’t have it? You can’t just tell
someone “be confident” or “just don’t care what she says!”
Clearly that won’t work.
So you have to ACT confident and outcome independent.

Keep acting this way, and you will eventually FEEL this
way. So how exactly do you do that?
1. Learn exactly what confidence and outcome independence

looks like.
A. For confidence, study any James Bond movie, any

old Arnold Schwarzenegger action movie, and study
men in movies like Morgan Freeman, Ed Harris, and
Sean Connery (there are many other good examples of
confident men in movies and on TV…choose as you
like).
B. For OI, study guys in movies like Jim Carrey,

Kevin Kline, and especially James Woods, the
absolute king of OI. The two best movies to study
James Woods, to learn what true OI looks like: The
1988 film Cop, and the 1994 film The Specialist.
Cop is insane, dark, and beautiful. James Woods is

doing things like murdering suspects, telling his boss
off, having S&M sex with witnesses, and just doing
whatever he damn well pleases (it also has one of the
best endings in Hollywood history, in my opinion).
In The Specialist, the movie itself isn’t that great, but

it’s fascinating to watch the contrast between
confidence and OI. When you watch it, notice the clear
difference between the confident-type villain (played
by Eric Roberts) and “don’t care” villain, played by

Woods. It’s great.
Quick side note: There is one guy that even beats

James Woods if you want to do a little digging. The
BBC science fiction television series Dr. Who, back in
the 1970’s, had the main character played by a man
named Tom Baker. If you want to see OI in action, this
guy was amazing. Rent or buy some DVD’s (they are
still being published), try to ignore the terrible 1970’s
BBC special effects, and watch this guy. He was a
genius. If James Woods is the OI king, Tom Baker
was the OI god. (The current, modern Doctor Who,
David Tennant, is also very good).
2. Walk around your house, in front of the mirror, and in

front of friends, emulating how these men move, walk, and
talk. Literally practice this. Do it over and over again. Way
back when I got started with all of this, when I felt myself
drifting, I would sometimes channel James Bond, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, James Woods, or Tom Baker when I was
communicating with a woman (nowadays it’s embedded in
who I am so it’s automatic).
3. If you really want to make this work, and still don’t think
you’re quite there, once you think you’ve got these
mannerisms down, pick out your ugliest female friend and
take her out on a fake date. If you want, explain what you’re
trying to do. DON’T try to have sex her! You want OI! You
don’t care what happens (remember?).
On the “date” pick out your favorite example for confidence

and your favorite example for OI, and while you’re with her,
act like him all night. I don’t care if you are nervous as hell
inside. Act the part.
Hey, if you end up actually having sex with your ugly
female friend, fine, but that’s not the objective here. Your
objective to practice acting confident and outcome

independent.
4. Control your body language. Whenever you walk,

imagine a string attached to the top of your head, pulling you
upward like a puppet. This will force you to walk very
differently.
When sitting, lean BACK, and completely relax. Don’t

slouch (that’s actually leaning forward). Lean back. Don’t
lean forward like you’re interested, and don’t sit up ramrod
straight like you’ve spent 10 years in the marines. Lean
back. Chill. Act like you actually are the owner of wherever
you are…the bar, club, restaurant, mall, wherever (I always
do).
5. Do it again. Take another one of your female friends

“out”. Practice your acting. Rinse and repeat.
6. When you start emailing women, or IMing women, or

texting women or talking to women on the phone while
using this system, practice confidence and OI at all times.
Actually re-read every email you are about to send to a
woman and ask yourself “Am I demonstrating confidence or
nervousness? Am I demonstrating outcome independence or
neediness?” Soon...it will start to become automatic. The
damnest thing will start to happen. You’ll actually start to
feel confident and less worried about “what’s going to
happen” or “getting it right” .
And then you know what?
Your results will suddenly skyrocket.
Chapter Three
Preparation
You must have several things in place before you start your
online dating adventure. Before you start blitzing out emails
to hot chicks, make sure you have the following items in
place.
1. A cool MySpace page and a cool Facebook page. Yes,

you must have both, unless you don’t want to date women
under the age of 23. In that case, just a Facebook page will
probably be fine. As of this writing, MySpace seems to
slowly be going away, but we’re not quite there yet. (If you
are a guy over age 30 and are interested in dating women
between the ages of 18 and 23, take a look at my ebook on
that specific subject, How To Attract And Date Younger
Women.)
Even if you intend on dating women though dating sites and

not MySpace or Facebook (a good recommendation when
first getting started, by the way), you still need a cool
MySpace/Facebook page. As you will soon see, Facebook
and MySpace are very powerful tools to solidify dating
prospects you find on dating sites.
Your MySpace/Facebook page must be fun, female-friendly,

and demonstrate you are a fun guy who does lots of
interesting things, and who is desired by other women.
Now, this isn’t a book on how to make cool MySpace or
Facebook page that will appeal to women (there are many
other ebooks on the market on how to do this), but here are
some general pointers:
A. Include lots of pictures. Pictures of you, pictures of

your pets (women love animals), pictures of you in
other cities or countries if you travel, pictures of you

with other pretty women having fun, pictures of you
doing interesting things, etc. You get the idea.
B. Be funny and witty in any text you have on there. Be

creative.
C. Have lots of comments from other women posted,

preferably pretty women.
D. Have lots of friends on your MySpace/Facebook

profile. If you don’t have lots of friends yet, hide your
friends list until you do.
E. Anytime you update your status, have it be something

that conveys your value as a man. Not “Joe is
hungry”, but “Joe is going to Vegas tomorrow!” or
“Joe just signed up a new client!”.
2. Next, you need an instant messaging account with both

Yahoo IM and MSN Messenger. Yes, you must have both.
If you don’t already have both, set up an account, and
download the necessary software, and get comfortable using
both systems. They’re quite simple.
3. A spreadsheet program like Microsoft Excel. (Throughout

this manual I’m going to assume you already know the
basics of how to use a spreadsheet…if you don’t, learn.)
Don’t want to buy a spreadsheet program? No problem, use
the online spreadsheet program in Google Documents or
download Open Office, both of which are free.
Once you start in with the process, keeping track of all these
women, what you said to whom, how long it’s been since
you talked to whom, etc, is going to get VERY complicated
unless you have an easy way to track it all. And a
spreadsheet is how you do it.
Set up a new spreadsheet with the following column headers

(I’ll explain what they mean in a minute):
Name, Online Name, Days Since Her, Day Since You,

DOLCFH, DOLCFM, Status, TEP, Phone/IM, Web, and
Notes.
Optionally, you may add some other columns that describe

aspects of women that are important to you, such as Age,
Height, Hair Color, Number of Children, Priority, etc. In my
own spreadsheet, I actually include a facial photo of each
woman (small enough to fit in a cell) to remind me of who’s
who. (This is critical for me since I can easily have over 40
women on my spreadsheet at one time.)
The columns mean the following:
Name: Her real name, first and last.

Online name: Her login name or profile name on the dating
site
Days Since Her: This is the single most important column in
your spreadsheet. It’s the number of days it’s been since
you’ve heard from her. It’s a formula: today’s date minus
the date in the DOLCFH column.
Days Since Me: This is the number of days since YOU
contacted HER. Again, it’s a formula…today’s date minus
the date in the DOLCFM column.
DOLCFH: Stands for “Date Of Last Contact From Her”.
Every time you hear from her, you’re going to enter today’s
date in this column (more on this later).
DOLCFM: Stands for “Date Of Last Contact From Me”.
Every time you contact her in any way, enter today’s date in
this column.
Status: This is one or two words on exactly how you’re
communicating with her currently. It could be the word
“Match.com” or “Email” or “Texting”.
TEP: This is the number of times you have emailed her on

the dating site within an ongoing email conversation. More
on this later.
Phone/IM: This just includes a “Y” or a “N”. It’s whether or
not you’ve had a phone call or IM conversation with her
prior to the first date to establish comfort. More on this
later.
Web: Again, this just includes a “Y” or a “N”. It’s whether
or not she has seen your MySpace/Facebook page(s) or any
other web sites that feature you.
Notes: Make this column nice and long. You can put
whatever you want in here…usually whether or not you’ve
already asked her out, or problems you’ve encountered with
her, or whatever.
We’ll go through specifically how to use the spreadsheet and

the specific applications of these columns as we go along.
The important thing now is to just get it ready. There will
be a “spreadsheet section” at the end of each chapter to tell
you exactly what to do with the spreadsheet as we progress.
4. A word processing program or spreadsheet program (you

choose) where you will keep all of your copy-and-paste
email openers and responses, and lists of women you’ve
emailed, so you don’t try to re-open the same women over
and over again.
Chapter Four
Choose Your Battlefield
Now it’s time to choose which particular sites to focus on.

We need to separate “dating sites’ into three distinct
categories.
1. Social Networking Sites. These are sites like MySpace,

Facebook, Friendster, and others. The good thing about
these is that there are lots of women to choose from, and
they’re free to join. The problem is that women on these
sites aren’t (necessarily) there to date, causing additional
resistance.
2. Dating Sites. These are sites like Match.com, Yahoo

Personals, Plenty of Fish, OKCupid, and many others. Sites
like this are the focus of this book. These sites are full of
women actively looking to date, either sexually, casually, or
seriously.
3. Sex Sites. These are sites like AdultFriendFinder. The

advantage is these women are “DTF”, as they say. The
problem is that the man-to-woman ratio on these sites is
horrible (many times it’s 10 to 1 or even 20 to 1), and most
the women are fat and/or ugly.
4. Classified Sites. These are sites like Craigslist that have

“men/women wanted” sections. In general, these sites can
work but are usually full of fake ads, like hookers, strippers,
webcam girls, etc.
My focus, and the focus of this manual, is how to get dates

from the second category, dating sites. However, using
many of the same techniques here, dating from other types
of sites will be effective, at least to some degree.
The four dating sites that I have worked, become proficient

in, and gotten dates, sex, and (when I want them)
relationships from, are Match.com, Yahoo Personals,
OKCupid, and Plenty of Fish. I have also dabbled in a few
other sites like Zoosk and had similar results. I have also
had sex with women I meet from both MySpace and
Facebook, but I’m talking about dating sites for the moment.
Of course, these are NOT the only dating sites out there.
There are many other good ones out there that I know for a
fact are good for men to use, so please don’t limit yourself to
these four or five. One or two of these four are good starting
points.
Below are the pro’s and con’s to each site, based on my

experience.
Match.com
Pro’s: Much hotter women. Less flakes. Huge numbers of

women. Very good search features. Can tell if women have
read emails or not (for a small extra fee). Can tell when
women were last online. Built-in instant messaging (but
women rarely use it).
Con’s: Women tend to want the “get serious fast” type

relationships or marriage more than other sites, thus
expecting a more 1950’s dating style. More high-
maintenance women. Lower response rate to emails. More
older women than younger women. Younger women much
less open to dating older men. Costs money.
Yahoo Personals
Pro’s: Very high response rate to emails. Every email you

send to women is saved forever, making it impossible to
send the same emails to the same women twice (fantastic
feature!). Very good search features. Can tell when women

were last online.
Con’s: Small number of women compared to other major

dating sites. Women are not quite as attractive (though there
ARE attractive women there). Can’t tell when women read
emails. More flakes. More false “scam” profiles than any
other dating site (and this is getting worse and worse; I’m at
the point where I’ve stopped using Yahoo Personals because
its simply gotten out of hand). Costs money (it’s free but
you cant type out emails unless you pay, making it next to
impossible to really get anywhere unless you pay). The
good news is that if you pay, you can still date women on
there who don’t pay.
The bottom line on Yahoo personals is that there are far less
women, but a higher response rate for those women, so it’s
still generally worth it. Watch out for fake profiles though!
Plenty of Fish
Pro’s: It’s free! Huge numbers of women. Lots of younger

women. Response rate pretty good (better than Match, not as
good as Yahoo). Younger women open to dating older men
(if that applies to you). Can tell if emails have been read.
More relaxed “chill” women. Built-in instant messaging.
Con’s: Lots of ugly women and overweight women (though

not as much as OKCupid). More weirdoes who waste your
time. Search features not that great. Very hard to determine
when a woman was last online. Very poor email capabilities.
Your emails are heavily censored. For example, send a
woman an email with the word “MySpace”, and it’s
automatically replaced with the word “spam site”.
Ridiculous.
OKCupid
Pro’s: It’s free! Many women will email YOU. Very high
response rate. Very, very relaxed, happy women. Large
numbers of women of all ages. Built-in instant messaging.
Con’s: Terrible layout. Can’t tell if emails have been read.

LOTS of ugly and seriously overweight women, more than
any other dating site I’ve seen. Many women are resistant to
actually meet in person. Many women on there are already
seeing someone and are just there for “friends” or “pen
pals”. Worst disadvantage – stupid, poorly written questions
that you MUST answer, which then provides a “match
percentage” which is prominently displayed to all women
you communicate with. Yuck.
Your goal here is to pick one, preferably two dating sites,

sign up, and learn them well. All four of these are good, but
here are some specific recommendations:
If you’re really uncomfortable around women and/or dating,

or are a dating beginner, OKCupid is probably the best,
since the women on there are the nicest, least picky, and
most likely to respond to you.
If you’re out for just sex or dating with nothing serious,

Plenty of Fish is probably the best dating site for you.
If you’re looking for a serious girlfriend or wife, Match.com

is the best site, by far. I know several people who have
married people they met on match, and even I fell in love
with a woman from Match.
And again, don’t necessarily limit yourselves to these four.

Sites like JDate, for example, are geared for Jewish folks,
and there are sites geared for other types of people as well.
Do some research and take advantage of those.
Sites To Avoid
As I said, most dating sites with a large selection of women

will work fine. But there is one dating site in particular that
will not work with this system, and that’s eHarmony. On
eHarmony it is impossible to actually do a search for women
you like. Instead, they tell you who they think you are
compatible with. Yuck. No thank you. Also, women who
are actually attractive are quire rare on eHarmony.
eHarmony is really a dating site geared toward shy people in
their 40’s, 50’s, or 60’s, looking to get married ASAP. Do
yourself a favor and avoid eHarmony.
In addition, as I said earlier, Yahoo Personals has in recent

years become a haven for false scam profiles. It does have
real women on there, but you need to be careful. You can
identify a likely false profile if there is only one photo of a
really hot woman, and all the parameters are set for “any”,
like a profile where a woman is looking for men of “any”
height, “any” race, “any” income level, “any” city, etc.
Chapter Five
Your Profile
Now it’s time to set up a profile. The objective of your

profile is twofold:
1. To entice women to send you an email when they read it.
2. Much more importantly, to entice women to respond to

an email you send them. You will send them an email,
then they will read your profile to determine if they want
to respond or not.
On most dating sites, a profile has three parts, all three of

which we’ll discuss here.
1. The Q&A Portion
2. Your photo(s).
3. The text.
Part One: The Q&A
The Q&A portion has stats on yourself like height, income,

etc. It also has stats on what your ideal woman should be.
Here’s the best way to fill out the questions to maximum
effect.
• RULE NUMER ONE: Do not lie about obvious things.

This is the biggest, dumbest mistake men make with
online dating. If you’re 5’5”, for God’s sake, don’t say
you’re 5’10”. Saying you’re 5’6” might be fine, but if
you clearly lie about something obvious, even if you trick
the woman in to meeting you, you will never get past the
first date with her, which means you will never get to sex
or a relationship. Read that last sentence again. Then
read it again. I’m not kidding about this. DON’T lie
about something obvious. If you’re 45, don’t say “ah,
hell I look younger”, and put down you’re 35. Don’t put
down you make $200,000 if you work at McDonalds.
I’m sorry, but it just won’t work. Listen, your goal here
is sex or a relationship, not a bunch of first dates that
fizzle and go nowhere, right? The only time it’s OK to
blatantly lie on your profile is if all you want out of this
are one-night stands that go nowhere. Not exactly my
style, but if that’s what you’re after, go ahead and lie.
But for everyone else, keep it truthful!
• Women read profiles to disqualify, not to qualify. They

are looking for flaws. They are looking for things they
don’t like, not things they like. So, when answering
questions, if you’re not sure a woman would like your
answer, by all means answer “no answer” or “I’ll tell you
later” or “not decided”. Yes, this could also be a red flag
when women read it, but it’s still better than a definite
bad answer. A perfect example are sites that ask what
horoscope sign you are. My advice is to always leave this
blank. Because many woman are very picky about signs,
and if you’re something she doesn’t like, you’re out (lots
of women hate Ares for example). Another example of
this is whether or not you want more kids. If you don’t,
leave the question blank or undecided. You can always
discuss this topic with a woman once you’re dating.
• On the “your ideal match” portion of your profile, cast a

wide net. Later, you will be doing very targeted searches,
but on your profile, it should be as wide open as possible.
If you have on your “ideal match” section that you like
women with red hair, age 20 to 22, and who are under
5’3”, lots of very attractive, very desirable women who
come across your profile are going to blow you off,
especially if you emailed her first and she doesn’t fall into
those tiny categories. On my profile I have my “ideal
match range” age 18 – 45, any color hair, any race, any
color eyes, any height, with a thin, athletic, or voluptuous
build, etc. See how open that is? In the next chapter
we’ll search for exactly what you want, but right now, be
as all-inclusive as you can possibly be.
Here are specific guidelines on some of the specific

questions you will be asked:
Height: Women like taller men. Feel free to add an inch

or two if you really think you need it (hey, shoes
add height), but beyond that don’t lie.
Age: If you tend to like women younger than you, do
this: If your age ends in a six, deduct one year
from your age (JUST ONE YEAR, PLEASE)
and make it a five. If your age ends in a one,
deduct one and make it a zero. If your age ends
in a zero, deduct one and make it a nine. All
other ages, leave alone. This is because women
will usually search based on multiples of five
(i.e. men age 35-40…if you’re 41 your going to
lose out). As long as you’re modifying your age
by ONLY one year, you will be OK. Don’t feel
bad about the minor fudging, because guess
what? Women lie about their age (and weight)
much more than men do, and usually its way
more than just one year! Just don’t fudge your
age more than a year.
Ethnicity: Don’t lie about this, please. (Yes, I have
actually seen men lie about this. Stupid.)
Body Type: Don’t exaggerate this. When men are looking at
women, it’s all about looks. But when women
are looking at men, looks don’t matter as long as
you are well-groomed, well-dressed, come
across confidently. (I go into detail about
physical appearance in the second manual in this

series, Dating Women: Getting To Sex As
Quickly As Possible.)
Income: Unless you’re purely after one-night stands,
make it as high as you can without lying.
Have Kids: Don’t lie about this either, again, unless you just
want one-night stands.
Want Kids: If you’re after older women, say you don’t want
any. If you’re after younger women, say you
want some. If you’re after everybody, say
you’re undecided. But as always, avoid lying
outright.
Smoking: Don’t lie about this, unless all you want are one-
night stands.
Alcohol: Don’t lie about this, unless all you want are one-
night stands. Note that if you answer this any
extreme way (“Never drink alcohol ever” or
“Drink a lot all the time”) you will alienate a lot
of women.
Education: Women are societally programmed to want
highly-educated men, so make it as high as you
can without lying.
Religion: If, and only if, the religion of the woman you
want is VERY important to you, state your
religion clearly, as long as you understand this
will be a huge negative on your profile to all
other women. Otherwise, always choose
something ambiguous like “spiritual but not
religious”.
Political: ALWAYS say “Middle of the road” or similar.
NEVER say conservative, liberal, democrat,
republican, etc. Discuss that political stuff with
her once you’re dating her (if at all).
Your Sign: Decline to answer this if at all possible.
Part Two: The Photos
The most important part of your profile, by far, are your

photos. It’s easily 80% of her decision.
Now, remember I said don’t lie about anything obvious? Let

me state one thing that you MUST get into your head about
women:
If a woman sees you on the first date, and clearly sees that
you have dishonest regarding your appearance or your
photo, you will never have sex with her, and you will never
see her again, no matter how charming you are.
Please go back and read that sentence again if you are at all
confused. As I said, this is the number one dumb thing that
men do in the world of online dating. Men seem to think
that if they put up a photo of someone else, or a photo that’s
ten years old, when the woman reacts with shock when they
first meet, he can somehow dazzle her with his personality
and overcome the fact that he has just treated her like a
complete dumbass. This NEVER happens. If you do this,
and I am still constantly shocked at how often men still pull
this, you will never see that woman ever again. And will
have just wasted all of your time and effort getting her to the
first date.
Please GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD before you start

picking out photos of yourself to put on your profile. Your
photos MUST:
1. Be of YOU and not someone else!
and
2. Be no more than two years old! And even two years is

pushing it. One year or sooner is better.
If you are not willing to adhere to these two rules, you really
should just throw this manual away. It will do you no good,
because nothing else in this book will work. I’m serious.
Your photos must convey FUN, SUCCESS, and TASTE.

Keep those three things in mind. You want to look like a
successful guy who knows how to have fun, and knows how
to dress himself. Some guidelines:
• Women like color. Wear colors in your photos. Colors

are better than a white T-shirt and beige shorts.
• I go into detail about this in the second manual in this
series, Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As
Possible, but women have triple the amount of receptor
cones in their eyes for perceiving color than men do.
Women like men who know how to wear colors that
compliment them. Wear colors that look good on you. If
you are at all unsure, ask a woman you know what colors
look good on you, and wear those. Every man is different
based on his skin tone, eye color, and hair color. I look
great in blue, but I look terrible in green. Find out what
works for you, and dress that way in your photos.
• Never take advice from another man on what to wear in a
photo, unless he’s gay. Ask the advice of women or gay
men, not one of your drinking buddies (I’m serious).
• Wear NICE clothes. If you have a lot of outdoorsy
photos, that’s fine, but have at least once photo with you
in at least a nice long-sleeved shirt. Think
SUCCESSFUL.
• Don’t look angry in your photos. Don’t try to look
“cool”. If you don’t want to smile, that’s OK. Just don’t
look pissed. Think FUN. At a minimum, be neutral.
According to an analysis done by OKCupid, best photo to
have for the highest response rates is a photo of you not
looking at the camera and not smiling. Not angry, just
not smiling.
• If it fits your personality, include an animal in your photo.

This has been shown to increase response with women.
(If you’re not an animal guy then by all means skip it.)
• Don’t have close-ups of things like your tats, your boots,
your butt, your nose ring, or your crotch. Don’t have
photos of you and your drinking buddies making stupid
faces at the camera while doing gang signs. You’re not
trying to appeal to other men here, you’re trying to appeal
to women. Think TASTE. Save the stupid pictures for
your guy buddies.
• Important…we need to talk about wearing hats in photos.
If you are wearing a hat in every single picture you put on
your profile, women are going to assume you’re balding.
Sorry, this is just how women think. Be aware of this. If
you have plenty of hair, lay off the hats in your photos. If
you feel you must wear a baseball hat, only wear it in
your outdoorsy photos. Unless you’re a really young guy
trying to attract really young girls, don’t have photos of
you in your hat while you’re indoors.
• Only have photos that have YOU in them. No photos of
your dog or your motorcycle. Women don’t care. Sorry,
but they don’t. Now, if you have really good picture of
you ON your motorcycle, that’s a good photo. See the
difference? Photos of only your dog or motorcycle might
be fine for your MySpace/Facebook page, but not for
your dating site profile.
• Photos of yourself in other countries or in interesting
locations is great. Women like travel. Again however,
YOU must be in the picture.
• I shouldn’t have to say this, but based on the guy pictures
I’ve seen online I apparently need to. Your hair needs to
look nice, well groomed and combed. If you have bad
teeth, keep your mouth shut. If you are chubby, take the
photo at the best possible angle. If you wear glasses
occasionally, make sure they’re off for the photo (if you
wear them 100% of the time then leave them on). Try
your best to look nice!
• At the same time, you don’t want to overdo it. Don’t

have photos that are “glamour shots” or look like you’re
trying to be a male model. You’ll come off looking gay,
and women like masculine. Nice, clean, but masculine.
• GOOD PHOTO TIP: Courtesy of David DeAngelo
(thanks David!). Take some photos you think are good,
and post them on HOTorNOT.com, and watch the ratings
flow in. If you rate low (and I’d say that means below a 7
or 8 on a scale from 1 to 10), post another one. Keep
going until you find a photo that rates as high as you can
get it, and use that one as your primary.
• If you’re ripped and muscular, by all means do show it
off, but not in a douchebag way. I.E. don’t have a
shirtless photo of you posing in front of the bathroom
mirror. Instead, have a shirtless photo of you working out
in your garden, for example. See the difference?
How many photos should you put up? One to three. No

more than three. Why? Because as we’re going to discuss
in a minute, you want to look OI and non-needy, and tons of
pictures plastered all over your profile just screams needy. It
looks like you’re trying too hard, and you don’t want to do
anything that implies that. The best combo is one
“successful photo” of you looking your best, and one or two
“fun” photos.
Part Three: The Profile Text
Now we’re on to your actual text description. This is make

or break time. The first thing a woman will do is look at
your photo, then, if she likes your look, she will read your
profile. And guess what? She will ready EVERY WORD.
With your photo, you want to think fun, success, and taste.
However, with your profile text, it’s quite different. You
want to be a:
SUCCESSFUL, SMART, FUNNY, NON-NEEDY, JERK
That’s right. You should print out those five words, stick
them up on your monitor, and read them constantly while
you are writing your profile text. You need ALL FIVE of
these aspects to create attraction and curiosity with women
who are reading your profile. I’ll go through each one
below, but once again I need to bring up the lying thing. If
you want one-night stands and nothing else, feel free to lie
your ass off in your profile text. I’m not here to judge you.
For the rest of you wanting something more (casual
relationships or long term relationships), you could certainly
exaggerate, but lying is a horrible idea. Why? Because if
you say you’re a millionaire and you’re not, she’ll find out
once you start dating, and then you’ve got a problem. It’s
the same if you say you’ve been to Europe and you haven’t,
or you’ve directed a Hollywood movie and you haven’t.
Exaggerate, yes (women exaggerate greatly, so this is
acceptable). But outright lying, no.
We’re going to use our confidence and OI to the max now.

Use the following attitude in your profile text…NOT the
actual words…the attitude:
Successful. You have a high income, you know finances,

you are a leader of men, you manage others, you are
powerful, you know business, you know real estate, you are
well-traveled, you’re a self-made guy, you’re experienced,
you’ve done a lot in your life, and you want to do more!
Smart. You’re well-read, you’re highly educated, you know

a lot about a lot of different things, you’re nuanced, you are
a jack-of-all-trades, you speak eloquently, you use varied
and classy vocabulary, and you have much to teach others!
Funny. Funny, not silly. Funny, not crude (no toilet

humor). You’re witty. Your profile should make her laugh
out loud at least two times, no more than three times.
Women LOVE a smart sense of humor. They love to laugh.
You have fun. You are fun. You are interesting. You have
funny stories to tell, funny experiences to share. You can
make funny observations about life that other men can’t.
Other guys are boring, but not you!
Non-needy. You are busy. You don’t have time to fart

around. You have high standards in women, and she
probably doesn’t cut it. You only date very attractive, smart,
amazing women. You NEVER date anyone else. You don’t
have the time for drama or games, that’s for other guys. If
she wants drama, she needs to find someone else. If she’s
not gorgeous, you’re not interested. You’re in demand.
When it comes to women, you have lots of options.
Jerk. You don’t care if she has a problem with what you
have to say. If she has a problem with that, it’s her problem,
not yours. She can go email the other pussies on this site.
You don’t care. You have no fear about what anyone thinks
about you. You’re successful, good-looking, and desirable.
Who cares? On to the next woman!
Now again, don’t actually use these exact words in your

profile, but clearly use these attitudes when writing it.
Confident and outcome independent!
Are women really attracted to this stuff? YES. I could write

an entire book about this one concept (and I might), but
women are not attracted to nice guys. Women say they are,
but they aren’t. Women are attracted to confident, outcome
independent, minimal-drama JERKS, at least in the initial
phases of the relationship. Please trust me on this. I can tell
you from extensive personal experience it’s true.
“But hey, I’m really not a jerk. Why do I have to act like
one?”
Hey, I personally think I’m pretty a nice guy too. You only
need to be a jerk in the profile. As we move forward in the
process, you’re going to get nicer and nicer. This is the
worst you’re going to be. So “jerk it up” in the profile, and
worry about being a little nicer the further we go into the
process.
Do not write up the profile on the web site. Type it up in

your word processor (with spell-check) first. Write up the
profile and write as much as you can. I always go to the
dating site character limit on all of my profiles. If you make
it interesting, women will read it, and want to read the whole
thing.
Once you’re done, re-read your profile at least twice. Does

it convey success? Are you smart? Funny and witty? Do
you make her laugh at least twice but not more than three
times? Are you clearly non-needy? Are you (kind of) a
jerk? If you can’t answer “yes” to all of those questions,
edit until you can.
Now it’s time to edit for spelling, punctuation, and grammar.

STOP!!! I probably just lost you didn’t I? You were just
going to gloss over this part weren’t you? Time to get
something in your head again:
If a woman sees ANY spelling, punctuation, or grammar

errors in your profile, or any email you write her, she will
not communicate with you, no matter how charming you
think you are.
Remember your third-grade teacher in school? Women are

worse. One error in your typing, and you’re GONE. No,
I’m not kidding. Women are very pissy about this. Women
are detail oriented…and spelling, punctuation, and grammar

are details. Even if SHE uses incorrect grammar or spelling,
anything incorrect you write to her is more than enough
reason for a woman to say “Next!” Is it silly? Yes. Is it
fair? No, but that’s the way it goes. You need to pay careful
attention to this…it’s not optional.
So go through your profile a third time, and check spelling,

punctuation and grammar.
Then, print out your profile text or email it to someone else,

and have someone else proofread it. No matter how good
you are, they will find errors you didn’t.
Once you’ve proofed it, and made sure you convey the five
qualities, copy and paste it into the web site, post it to the
profile, proof it one more quick time (HTML code
sometimes screws up pasting), and edit one last time if
necessary.
OK! Now were ready to find some women!
Chapter Six
Choose Your Targets
You’ve picked one or two dating sites and your profile and
photos are up! Now it’s time to find hot women.
Remember I talked about focusing in on putting in the

numbers and not getting hung up on just one woman? I’m
going to talk about it again. It’s that important.
Focus on the many, not the one.
I get emails all the time from men who say “I’ve got this
ONE hot chick who I’m emailing on MySpace (or Match, or
wherever). What should I say?” They don’t understand that
I can’t help them. At all. Why? Because they’re dealing
with just one woman. The odds of ever meeting her or
having sex with her are incredibly low. If instead a man
asks me “I’ve got 35 profiles of hot women who all live
within 45 minutes of my house, and I want to hook up with
one (or some) of these women, how do I do that?” Now
THAT guy I can help.
Usually, men focus all of their time on energy on ONE

woman they really, really like. They work her and work her
for weeks or months. Then, when they finally admit to
themselves it won’t work out, they get depressed. Then
what do they do? You guessed it, the find another ONE
woman they really like, and start the process all over again.
This is no way to date, and no way to live. And certainly no
way to have sex (because you’ll rarely get any).
If dating or sex is important to you, or if finding that one

person is important to you, you need to start focusing on the
many, not the one. Even if you want to find that one special
girl who is the answer to all of your prayers, doesn’t it make
sense to date as many women as you can to find the BEST

woman that’s out here for you? Isn’t that just logical?
Regardless of what your objective is, dating many women is
the best way to get there. I’m not necessarily talking about
actually having sex with multiple women all the time
(unless, of course, that is your objective). I’m talking about
dating women, meeting women, getting to know many
women, and picking out the best one (or ones).
Focusing on the many and not the one is a very clear

concept, but let me explain exactly what I mean in terms of
this online dating process.
Imagine a funnel. You fill the funnel with women who

appear attractive to you from searches on the dating site. At
the bottom of the funnel, pops out a women (or several
women) you will actually have sex with or a relationship
with. The lower in the funnel you go, the less women there
will be (though over time this will improve as you get more
skilled with this system). The more women at the top of the
funnel, the more likely you will get women coming out the
bottom of the funnel, and the higher quality those women
will be.
Here’s an example of what the funnel in this sequence would

be. The numbers are rough estimates, but should give you a
good idea of what to expect.
TOP OF THE FUNNEL
One, two, three or more dating sites with 1000’s of women

each
100 – 200 women’s pictures you just glance at on the one of

your dating sites
30 – 70 women’s profiles you glance at quickly to see if you

you’re attracted to them
20 – 50 women you know you like after reading their

profiles, and send an email opener to
About 10 who respond favorably to your email and begin the

“three exchange process”
5 to 8 women you schedule, or attempt to schedule, first

dates with
4 to 7 women who actually make the date
1 to 3 women you actually have sex with and/or start a

relationship with
BOTTOM OF THE FUNNEL
The numbers above are just examples I pulled out of the air,
so don’t get too hung up on them. They could be far better
or far worse. It’s just there to illustrate how important it is
to focus on large amounts of women, always.
Several things to note about this funnel model. Each

separate dating site is it’s own funnel. So if you’re on
Match.com and Yahoo Personals, you have not one, but two
funnels. You’ve doubled your possibilities. See why I
recommend for you to be on more than one dating site?

Secondly, these numbers, as I said, are examples only.
They could be way high or way low depending on several
factors. Those are primarily 1) the size of the dating site, 2)
the size of the city you live in, 3) how picky you are, and 4)
your real-life skill in dealing with women. Clearly, if you
live in a huge city, aren’t really picky about the women you
like, and are really skilled in dealing with women, you’re
going to get a lot of women coming out the bottom of that
funnel.
Purely as an example for illustration, my personal situation

is this:
I live in a city, but a smaller one (population of about a

million people): Not good for the numbers, but not bad
I generally focus on three or four dating sites at a time: Very

good for the numbers
I am very picky about the women I will date: Very bad for
the numbers.
I am really good with women: Very good for the numbers.
So in the end, I come out OK. You’re going to fall

somewhere in that number spectrum, and it’s up do you to
get the numbers as high as you can within the areas you can
control. For example, if you live in a very small town, are
really picky about the women you will date, and aren’t good
with women, you’re going to have to give a little on how
picky you are and/or really, really focus on improving your
dating skills and/or move to a larger city. As you see above,
I’m quite picky, but I can afford to be (I’m good with
women and I live in a reasonably-sized city).
We are now going to start dumping women into the top of

the funnel. This part is easy, as long as you aren’t too picky.
Here’s exactly how to do it:
1. Set aside some time so you won’t be disturbed. And it

helps to be a little relaxed while you do this. If you’re
worked up about something, wait to do this until later.
2. Log into your dating site.
3. Do a search based on whatever parameters you like.
Try not to be too picky at this point.
4. Hopefully, you’ll get 100 to 200 women as results. If
you don’t, go back and expand your search a little
wider until you do. Experiment with this site’s search
system until you get really comfortable with it (Do
women in your area tend to be heavier? Do you have
a lot of Latina women in the area? Do women in your
area tend to be college-age or forty-plus? These are
the type of things you’ll get a feel for as you search to
get higher numbers).
5. Once you’ve found enough women, display the search
results as “gallery view” or whatever will get the most
number of pictures of different women on one page.
6. Sort the pictures by “Activity Date” or “Last Online” .
Women who have been on the site recently are more
likely to be there again soon. My experimentation has
conclusively proven this. One email sent to one
woman who has been online in the last 24 hours is
worth more than 10 emails to 10 women who haven’t
been online for three weeks. Going along with this,
sending emails to women who are “Online Now” will
garner you the highest possible response rate. (One
note: Once you’ve really implemented this system
over a period of many months or weeks, and you’ve
“cleaned out” the dating site, instead of choosing
“activity date” as your sort, you will choose “Newest”
or “Newest First”, to snag all of the new incoming
women…otherwise, until that happens, stick with

“Activity Date” or “Last Online”)
7. Look at each picture, slowly. Even point at each
picture with your finger if that will help you slow
down. You don’t want to quickly scan the page; you
want to look at each picture, one at a time.
8. On each picture ask yourself one, and only one
question “Would I kiss this girl, if all I could see is
this face?” That’s it. Don’t think of anything else.
Do not try to guess what the rest of her body looks
like. Don’t think about whether or not she’s hot, or if
she’s good in bed, or if you could introduce her to
your mother, if she has a pierced tongue. Do not judge
her (that comes later). Do not look at her username.
That will just distract you. Just ask that question, and
you will get a quick and simple “yes” or “no” from
your mind.
9. If you get a “no”, move your eyes to the next picture
and ask the question again.
10. If you get a “yes”, bring up her profile in a new
tab in your browser. STAY on this search results
page. Once her tab or window opens up behind your
active window, move your eyes to the next photo and
ask the question again.
11. Keep doing this until you have about 20 to 25
tabs of open profiles.
12. Remember exactly where you are on the search
results page, and click over to the first tab. DO NOT
CLOSE the search results page. Keep it open and in
the background.
13. Now you’re looking at an actual profile of a
woman you’ve clicked. Look at this woman’s photos
and see if you like her. If you do, check to see what
city she lives in. I have rule: I will not date any
woman who loves longer than a 45 minute drive from
my house. That’s my rule, but if you don’t mind
driving longer, fine (and if you live in a small town,
you may have to drive longer). Once she passes that

test, quickly scan her statistics and Q&A answers and
look for any red flags, whatever a red flag is to you.
DO NOT actually read her entire profile. This is a
waste of time at this point. Also, if you read every
women’s profile in its entirety, this online dating
process is going to take a HUGE amount of time.
Remember, one of our goals is to spend the minimum
amount of time doing this. Don’t sit there and read
every inch of her profile right now. Just see if she
sparks your interest. Use your gut, not your brain.
14. If she does spark your interest, and she’s been
online within the last week or so, you’re going to send
her your email opener, which we’ll discuss in the next
chapter. If you don’t like her, or fails any of your
litmus tests, or if it’s been longer than a week or so
since she’s been online, just close the profile and move
to the next.
15. Keep repeating steps 13 and 14 until you are out
of open profile tabs, then go back to your search
results page.
16. Repeat steps 7 through 15 until you reach the
end of your search results or until you reach women
who have not been on for more than a week or so,
whichever comes first (you could certainly keep going
with women who’ve been absent longer than a week,
but the odds of contacting these ones start getting
really low).
17. Hopefully, you should have set out at least 20 to
30 emails (or 10 to 15 if you’re only hitting the
“Newest” profiles), hopefully way more than that.
The more the better! Push to get out as many emails
as possible. 25 is good, 35 or 40 is way better, more
than 40 is fantastic. If you don’t have at least 20,
you’re probably being too picky, and you should
probably loosen up a bit and re-run the process. If you
live in a really small town, you may need to expand
your search to your nearest larger city or town, and

just plan on driving a bit more when you start dating.
Just do your best to get as many emails out as you
possibly can.
Chapter Seven
The Email Opener
Your “email opener” is the standard copy-and-paste email
that you email out to women you’ve never contacted before
who you are interested in.
Here are the rules for your email opener:
1. It should NOT compliment her. That’s what all the other

guys do. You’re different. (If you just can’t stand it and
must compliment her, say something very generic and
brief like “you seem interesting”.)
2. It should not convey ANYTHING of a sexual nature.

Again, that’s what all the other guys do, and it’s an
immediate turn-off for 90% of women out there (don’t
worry, you’ll get to the sex talk a little later).
3. It cannot be more than 4 sentences. 1 or 2 sentences is

best The shorter, the better. This is important.
4. It should convey that you’re not needy, and that it doesn’t

bother you if she doesn’t respond. It should be subtly
communicated that you don’t need her.
5. Ideally, it should subtly convey that you won’t contact

her again unless she contacts you.
6. Lastly, it should end “nicely”, to offset the “jerk-ness”

she’s about to read in your profile. You could even say
something to the effect of “I’m kind of a jerk in my
profile, but in real life I’m really not that bad”, or “Don’t
be too turned off by the text in my profile :)” or similar.
End with a nice comment with a smiley-face :) or similar.
7. Sign your opener with a single letter, like the first letter of
your first name, but it can’t be the first letter of your login
name. This creates a little mystery, which women like.
I’m not going to give you a literal set of openers that you can
just copy from this book and paste into your emails. You
don’t want me to do that…if I did, everyone would soon be
using the same openers YOU would be trying to make work,
and eventually NONE of the openers would be effective.
But, if you follow those above rules, you will have just
separated yourself from 98% of the other hundreds of emails
she’s gotten from all the other nervous, needy, horny,
douchebag guys on the dating site. She WILL take notice.
This kind of thing works very well on a woman’s
psychological attraction buttons.
Some dating sites provide a place for the title of the email.
You need to use this to pull her into reading your email.
Remember, many women, even the ugly ones, get literally
hundreds of emails from guys. You have got to stand out.
Make the email title silly, like “Purple socks!”, or open
ended, like “When I read your profile, I thought…”, or
qualifying, like “Hm, not sure…”.
While on the topic of the opener, we should talk about the

best times to actually email women online. Late afternoon
on a Sunday through Thursday is best, because that’s when
most people check these things. Sunday afternoons seem to
be the very best, because women seem to do their “online
dating stuff” on Sunday nights. The best is to send your
emails out around 4pm on a Sunday, or a workday (but not
Friday), so she will check her email that night and get a
response to you before it’s too late in the evening.
Eventually, you will start to get responses, ranging from the

curious to the very positive. Every once and a while you
will get a whiny woman complaining about your jerk profile,

but that’s rare. Just ignore those. Once you get a response,
you will begin the “three exchange process” I describe in the
next chapter.
What about those who don’t respond? If they have read

your email and didn’t respond, they are officially out,
especially if you can tell they viewed your profile. Delete
from your brain and forget about them forever.
If a good two or three weeks go by and they still haven’t

read your email, but it’s clear they are still active on the
dating site, then go ahead and send them another email with
your same opener, just use a different subject title. Of
course, this is may be a waste of your time if they clearly
haven’t been online since before your sending of your first
email, but it can’t hurt. Your list of “emailed women” in
your spreadsheet can help guide you here.
Spreadsheet Section: Once you send your email opener to a

woman, note her login name on your spreadsheet
somewhere, so you don’t end up sending her the same email
again. Yes, you’re going to end up with a very large list if
you do this regularly. That’s OK. If you’re every unsure if
you’ve emailed a woman before, you can just to a quick
search on this list to see if you have.
Chapter Eight
Email Communication
Now the work really begins. You now have several

attractive women who have sent you an email demonstrating
some interest in you. Now begins the most dangerous step
in the entire online dating process…email communication.
Dating site email communication (or DSEC for short) is

where you really, really need to be on your toes. One
sentence, one phrase, even one WORD that a woman gets
from you in an email that she doesn’t like, and it’s over, and
you’ll never be able to recover with her. I say this literally,
with no exaggeration. It’s just how women are at this stage.
Even worse, very often women will just suddenly stop
communicating with you, for no explainable reason. It’s
normal and all part of the process (all the more reason to
really put in the numbers!).
To make matters even worse, during DSEC you still need to

convey to these women that you are confident, outcome
independent, and funny. Try doing all that without saying
something she might take the wrong way! See why DSEC is
such a pain?
So, the most important aspect of DSEC is to reduce the

DSEC phase to its absolute minimum amount of time.
Remember when I talked about how time is your enemy? I
was primarily talking about DSEC. The less time DSEC
takes, the less opportunity there is for you to email her
something she won’t like, and the less time she has to flake
on you. It’s that simple.
Your goal during DSEC, your ONLY goal, is to schedule

that first date! It is not to carry on a conversation about her,
or to learn about her, or to demonstrate how cool you are.

It’s to nail down that first date! If that’s not possible, then
the second, “backup goal” is to move her out of the dating
site to some other form of communication. That could be to
your own email address, or to Yahoo IM, or to Facebook, or
to texting, or whatever. In either case, you need to get her
off that dating site as quickly as possible!
After much trial and error, I have developed the “three

exchange process” or TEP. TEP is the best way to
accomplish the primary or backup goal of DSEC.
An “exchange” is defined as one email received from her,

and one email you send as a response. That equals one
exchange (a total of two emails). TEP just means that at
three exchanges, you pitch the date. If you get to three
positive exchanges before doing this, you chances of success
on scheduling the date are very high. The three exchange
maximum is there for a reason. If you make three exchanges
without pitching a date or at least offering your phone
number, one of two things are going to happen.
1. The woman is going to wonder what is wrong with you.

It will start to get weird. You will set off wimp alarms in
her head.
or
2. The woman is going to shove you into “e-friend zone”. If

you keep communicating with her, eventually she won’t
want to meet you. Why? Because you’re her “online
friend” now! She’s getting all the validation she needs
from talking to you online, from a distance. She doesn’t
want to actually MEET you!
TEP also ensures the minimum amount of time for her to

flake.
Remember the five aspects of your profile? Successful,

smart, funny, non-needy, jerk. During TEP, you are no
longer a jerk. Strike that from your mind. She’s already
read your profile, and it’s done it’s job. If you still act like a
jerk during TEP, you’re gone. Also, you don’t need to
demonstrate successful any more either. If you attempt that
during TEP, you’re going to come off as arrogant. So no
talking about how rich you are or how much you travel or
your Corvette, unless she directly asks you. Even then, be
modest, and try to avoid answering questions like that
directly.
On the flip side, you cannot complement her in any way

during TEP. Do NOT tell her she’s pretty, or has a hot
photo, or that she’s smart, or that you liked her profile, or
that you think it’s cool she works at a radio station. Along
the same lines, do not give her any terms of endearment at
this point. Do NOT call her “hot stuff” or “hottie” or
“babe”, or any of that stuff.
So no jerk, no successful bragging, and no compliments.

That leaves smart, funny, and non-needy. This is what you
need to focus on during TEP. You want your confidence
and OI to flow. In every email, you need to:
1. Demonstrate your intelligence.
2. Make her laugh.
3. Demonstrate some curiosity in her without

complements (usually in the form of a positive question
about her).
4. Demonstrate non-neediness by qualifying her.
On top of all of this, keep your emails SHORT. Rarely are

my emails more than four sentences during DSEC.
Even more importantly, I’ll say it again, if a woman sees

ANY spelling, punctuation, or grammar errors in any email
you write her, she will very likely STOP communicating
with you, no matter how charming you are.
Spell-check, correct, review, and proofread EVERY

SINGLE WORD of every email you send a woman during
TEP. I’m not kidding. One error you miss means you’re
gone. End of story. If you suck at basic grammar, I have no
easy answers for you. Learn. Even if the woman you are
communicating with can’t punctuate or spell correctly, you
still need to. Yes, it’s not fair. Yes, it’s a hassle. Worry
not, it will be worth it.
Several other key points about TEP.
No matter what, you want DESC to be as brief as possible.

So, the TEP three exchanges is a maximum, not a minimum.
If you’re profile is well-written and your photos look good,
often, you will get a woman who, on her very first email
response to you, will suggest a first meet. TAKE HER UP
ON IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE, schedule it, and thank
the good lord for your fortune. You have just avoided TEP.
Yee-haw! If she ever offers a date before three exchanges,
take it! If not, YOU pitch the date on the THIRD exchange,
at the latest. Never go past three exchanges without pitching
a date if you can help it. I go into detail about how to pitch
the date in the next chapter.
Also, once you get the feel for this system and how women
communicate, it may be clear to you that she wants you to
pitch her a date before three exchanges. By all means go for
it!. The same is true if she does something like quickly give
you her cell phone number or actual real email address.
Again, take that information, stop emailing her over the

dating site, and start communicating with her in the new
way.
Sometimes, you will run into women who are “serial

emailers”. These women want to “get to know you” over
email. They may even clearly tell you they are “not ready”
to schedule a date or exchange phone numbers “yet”, before
you even make the pitch for the first date. You must short-
circuit these woman. Be strong, but nice. Gently but firmly
pitch the date at three exchanges, and dump her and move on
if she resists. Do not get sucked into an “email
conversation”. I know that the longer I email a woman
online, the lower my odds of eventually dating her are.
Let me repeat one part of what I just said. If she resists your
pitch to meet up in real life, forget her and MOVE ON.
Don’t start begging her and don’t get into a debate.
Remember your OI! If she doesn’t want to meet you after
three exchanges, there is a 99% chance she never wants to
meet you. Forget her and focus on other women in the
funnel.
Spreadsheet Section: Now you’re really going put your

spreadsheet to work. Here’s what you do during the TEP
phase.
1. As soon as a woman responds to your email opener, add

her to your spreadsheet. Make an entire row just for her.
Fill out her login name. In DOLCFH, enter today’s date.
If you’re going to email her back right now, also enter
today’s date the DOLCFM column. The Days Since Her
and the Days Since Me columns should calculate out by
themselves, each showing a zero (meaning zero days
since you’ve heard from her, and zero days since you’ve
tried to contact her). In the Status column, enter in the
name of the dating site you are talking to her on. In the
TEP column, enter a “1”, for one exchange. In the

Phone/IM and Web columns, enter in a capital “N”,
meaning you have not yet had a phone/IM conversation
with her, and she has not yet seen your web site(s). In the
Notes column, you can optionally enter in whatever you
want about her. If you do, keep it short. Remember,
we’re trying to be time efficient here.
2. If the woman responds to your responding email later,

send her an email back, then change the TEP column to a
“2”. Then enter today’s date in the DOLCFH and
DOLCFM columns.
At least once every four days or so, review your spreadsheet.

All you need to do is quickly glance at the Days Since Her
column, which is the single most important column in your
entire spreadsheet. This is the number of days it’s been
since you’ve heard from her. Generally speaking, you don’t
want this number to get past four days at the most. Once it
hits three or four days, send her off another email to
maintain the conversation (then update DOLCFM
accordingly).
If you start to see women who have high numbers in the

Days Since Her column, but low numbers in Days Since Me,
this means they have probably stopped contacting you. I set
a personal limit of 14 days in the Days Since Her column.
Any time a woman gets to 14 days since I’ve heard from her,
and I’ve sent her 2 emails in the interim, I delete her from
the spreadsheet. She’s gone forever, forget about her, and
move on. This kind of thing in online dating is normal and
expected. If you’re following the system laid out in this
manual, you should have TONS of woman on the
spreadsheet already anyway. Losing a few on a regular basis
should be no big deal to you (if it is, you need to check your
attitude about all of this and you probably need to re-read
chapter two regarding OI).
You should understand the key to why the spreadsheet is so

important now. Always look at the Days Since Her column,
and try to avoid getting any numbers in that column past
four. If they do reach that, contact the woman again. Not
contacting a woman in longer than four or five days enters a
danger zone where she may move on. Also, contacting a
woman A LOT will turn her off. If you follow the TEP
system and this spreadsheet system, you avoid both of these
possibilities.
A very “healthy” spreadsheet is one where you have lots and

lots of women, and the vast majority of the numbers in Days
Since Her are 0 to 2. I know I’m doing fantastic whenever I
see my spreadsheet look like that (and when I’m in full
“dating mode”, it always does).
Also pay attention to the number in the TEP column. If you

have any women over three or four exchanges, and you
haven’t nailed down a meet yet, YOU are not following the
system correctly, and are risking wasting your time. Nail
down that date on the third exchange!
Chapter Nine
Scheduling The First Date
It’s time to nail down the first date.
By the third email exchange, you say one of the two things:
“You seem safe enough. :) Let’s meet. Something simple

like drinks after work. At the moment, (and this is subject to
change very quickly) I’ve got Tuesday at 5:30pm free or
Thursday at 8:30pm free. Let me know if either of those
work.”
or
“We should meet early next week. Something simple like

drinks after work. If you’re up for it let me know and I’ll
give you a time and a place.
I have extensively tested both of those and they both work

more than 90% of the time. Use these, or feel free to
combine the two, or come up with your own that uses
similar language but more reflects your personality.
When you pitch the first date, it’s important that:
1. You don’t actually ASK her. See how in those two

above examples I’m not “asking” her? Instead I’m
gently telling her.
2. Imply that you don’t care what her answer is. You can
see the OI subcommunicated in the above two
examples.
3. Imply that you’re busy and have things to do. The

first example does this very well.
If you haven’t screwed up on TEP, you’ll very likely get an

email back affirming that she does want to meet you. The
rest are just scheduling details.
But let’s talk about those “details”. They are extremely

important.
Before pitching the first date to a woman, you must know

exactly where the date is going to be. Nothing turns a
woman off more than a guy who says “Well, what do you
like to do?”. This is an attraction-destroyer. Make sure you
have a specific location in mind, as well as a backup location
if for some reason the first place doesn’t work.
What should you do for a first date? I go precise, step-by-

step detail on how to plan, setup, meet, and end the first date
in the second manual in this series, Dating Women: Getting
To Sex As Quickly As Possible. For now, I’ll quickly give
you the basics.
The ideal first date is the fanciest bar in town, right after
work, on a workday. I’ll explain why each of those are
ideal.
The first date venue should be, in order of desirability:
1. The fanciest bar in town.

2. A fancy bar.
3. A coffee shop.
4. Something casual and free like going for a walk.
5. A cheap “lunch” restaurant (avoid if at all possible)
Your goal should be number one. If that’s not possible, it

should be number two. Then three, then four, then your
very, very, last option should be a “lunch date” (yuck!).

90% of my first dates are in very fancy bars, 10% are coffee-
shop first dates (sometimes this is necessary if the woman
doesn’t drink, or is nervous, or is under 21). Never do I do
anything else for a first date, but I realize sometimes you
have to improvise based on scheduling, etc.
A first date should NEVER be:
1. At a restaurant where she is expected to order food.

2. “Dinner”
3. “Dinner and a movie”
4. An expensive event like a play, concert, or basketball
game (even if you already have free tickets).
5. Anything that costs more than about $20 grand total.
6. Karaoke (unless you are a FANTASTIC singer, leave
the karaoke until after you’ve had sex with her)
I go more into this in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As

Quickly As Possible, but regardless if you’re looking for a
wife, girlfriend, or friend with benefits, your goal is to have
sex with this woman as quickly as possible with the least
amount of time and money spent. Spending a lot of money
on a woman up front actually reduces her attraction for you
in many cases, and often puts you in a “make him wait for
sex” category in her brain. Not to mention the silly idea of
spending money on a woman you don’t even know if you like
yet.
All you want to do for a first date is meet her at a fancy bar,
buy her a drink, buy yourself a drink, and talk. That’s it. I
have dated and had sex with many women using this exact
first-date formula, and it works very, very well.
Every once and a while, particularly with women over age

33, you will get a woman who has your first date with her
“all planned out”. She will sweetly demand that you “take
her out to dinner” or “go do something fun” or “go see that

new movie”. No. No, no, no! YOU are the boss. YOU are
the one spending the money. YOU are the one who will be
deciding what to do. And that’s drinks at a bar (or if she
hates alcohol or is underage, the local coffee shop). If she
balks at this, forget her and MOVE ON. You’ve just dodged
a bullet…or more accurately, a high-maintenance gold
digger who would have made your life a living hell,
assuming you ever got to sex with that woman, which would
have been highly doubtful.
Back to the “fancy bar”. It should be the fanciest bar in

town, because the location and ambiance of the first date
reflects directly upon YOU. If you meet at a crappy
restaurant with ugly people all over the place, this will
reflect badly upon you in her eyes, at least subconsciously.
The location of the first date should be beautiful, clean, fun,
and relaxed.
Before you start pitching first dates to women online, here’s

what you should do:
1. Use Mapquest, Google Maps, your friends, and/or

your own memory and experience and pick out the
fanciest bars in down.
2. Pick out your top three or four. Make sure they are in
clearly different locations. What I do is pick one for
each side of town, the north, south, east, and west side,
so no matter where she’s coming from, I have a place
for her to meet that relatively convenient for her (and
me).
3. Get their addresses and make sure you know exactly
where they are, and how to give directions to them.
4. Get on the web and get their hours of operation.
5. Get all of this info (address, hours, etc) into one
central place (a Word document or on your smart
phone) so you will have it at your fingertips when

scheduling first dates.
Now, when you pitch the meet and she’s interested, you can
tell her exactly where to meet, and you’ll know if it’s open
based on when you can meet.
Regarding the timing of the first date, I said it should ideally

be right after work, on a weekday. Why?
Women today are busy as hell. Between work, family,

school, their kids (if they have them), their extensive social
life, and their hobbies, nailing women down to a specific
time and place to meet is a damn nightmare. I have found
that right after work is, in most cases, the easiest time to get
a woman to meet you. Meeting a woman over a weekend is
workable but often tough; she’s just got too much stuff
going on. Meeting a woman later in the evening on a
workday is dangerous; there’s too much opportunity for
things to “come up” in her life, causing her to flake and/or
reschedule.
So right after work is best. Of course, often you need to be

flexible and schedule it for other times. This is fine, just
start with the “right after work” thing and go from there.
Another import key to scheduling the first date is this: The

closer the date is to today’s date, the less likely she is to
flake. Ideally, the date should be no more than 3 days from
today’s date. Yes, usually that’s not possible, but that’s the
ideal goal. I’ve even had first dates that were literally that
evening.
If three days out doesn’t work, shoot for five days out. If
that doesn’t work, shoot for seven days out. If she can’t
commit to scheduling a date less than a week out, that’s fine,
but just realize the odds of her rescheduling, cancelling, or
flaking go way up. Again, sometimes you have no choice.

But if you’re putting in the numbers like I keep saying, this
is not a problem.
Once she commits to your time and place, put in your

schedule (you DO have a schedule, don’t you?).
Congratulations! She has now moved from being a
“prospect” to a “confirmed prospect”.
What about getting her phone number?
You might notice at no point do I ever talk about “getting

her number” or “number-closing” her. That’s correct.
Here’s why: Believe it or not, it is easier for a woman online
to schedule a first date with you than it is for her to give out
her phone number. Yes, I know that makes no sense, but
that’s how women are.
So at no point should you ask a woman for her phone

number during TEP. It sets off too many alarms in her head.
Instead, once the date is scheduled, YOU give her YOUR

cell number. And guess what will happen? In reciprocation,
she will then give you her number. Never ask a woman for
her phone number online.
It’s important so I’ll say it again. Don’t ask for her number.
Schedule the date, then offer your number. 98% of the time,
she will hand over her number, if she hasn’t already.
What if she doesn’t give you her number? Fine. As long as

she has your number, and you follow up with her correctly
(which we cover in chapter eleven), you don’t need her
number. It’s not the norm, but I have indeed dated women
who didn’t give me their number until we met in real life.
It’s no big deal.
Spreadsheet Section: Once a woman has scheduled a first

date with you, she is not longer in the TEP phase. So on the
TEP column, replace whatever number you have in there
with a dash. You may even want to create a separate section
in your spreadsheet called “First Date Scheduled” and cut
and paste her row into there. This is what I do. I have a
“Communicating” section, a “First Date Scheduled” section,
and a “Dating” section.
Also, you should now no longer be communicating with her

via the dating site, so DSEC is over as well. You should
now be communicating via texting (best), or your own email
address, or the telephone, or IM, or Facebook, or whatever.
Whatever this is, enter this communication type in the
“Status” column. Avoid communicating with her via the
dating site now! Use some other form of communication
with her from now on!
And, of course, every time you communicate with her, make

sure you are still update the DOLCFH and DOLCFM
columns, and keeping a careful watch on her Days Since Her
value, making sure it doesn’t get past four or five days.
Chapter Ten
Comfort Bombardment
After going on scores and scores of first dates with women,
and testing different approaches to find the ones that were
the most successful, I found that the sure-fire way to
massively improve the odds that she will like you on the first
date is to get her to view you as someone she already
“knows” before she even meets you in person.
This means you must establish a level of comfort with her

before you meet her, but after you the first date is scheduled.
You want to literally shove buckets and buckets of comfort
on top of her little head. I call this process “Comfort
Bombardment”.
If you do this correctly, by the time you meet her in real life,
intimacy just seems like the “natural next step” for her.
Here’s exactly what you do:
1. Add her to your MySpace/Facebook pages. Remember

we talked about having a cool MySpace and Facebook
page back in chapter three? This is why. Once the date is
scheduled, immediately hop over to MySpace (if she’s
under 23 or so) or Facebook (if she’s over 23 or so), or
both, search for her, find her, and send her a friend
request. If you can’t find her, go ahead and ask her via a
text, phone, IM, or email, “Hey…are you on Facebook?”
She’ll tell you. Women love adding new friends to their
MySpace/Facebook pages.
Fire off that friend request and make sure she accepts it.
Now you’re no longer a strange guy from the internet
she’s never met! Now you’re “friends”!
Often, women will start communicating with you via

MySpace/Facebook once you’re friends. This is GREAT!
Encourage this. This makes her more comfortable with
you automatically.
2. Send them to your web site. Do you have your own

web site? For your business, or hobby, or whatever? If
you do, send them there also. If the web site displays you
as a desirable, or fun, or successful guy, and has photos of
you, this is even better.
My primary source of income is as a corporate consultant

and professional business speaker, so I have a web site
that sells my consulting and speaking services. It has a
few photos of me and sells me from a business
standpoint. As a test, I started sending confirmed
prospects (and sometimes, prospects) to the website. I
was shocked at how well it worked to attract women,
even women who were far younger than me who I
thought would have no interest in the business nature of
the web site.
This worked because my web site is what’s known as a

“DHV” or Demonstration of Higher Value. It made me
look valuable as a man, and thus desirable. So if you
have a web site, use it! Of course, if your web site is
scary, or odd, or pornographic, or doesn’t portray you
well, then skip it.
What if you don’t have a web site? Hell, make one.

Even if it’s just a blog or a resume site. It certainly won’t
hurt.
3. Have a good conversation with her either over the

phone or over instant messaging. This step solidifies
you as a “friend” and not a stranger, so when you meet up
on the first date, she really feels good about you. At

some point between when you schedule the first date and
when you actually have the first date, you must have a
good, fun conversation with her. The best time to do this
is the halfway mark to the first date (if it’s in six days, try
to do this on the third day).
There are two ways to do this that I know work. The first
option, and the better option if you’re confident and have
a good voice, is a phone call. Call her up when you know
she’s available (using texting if you need to), and talk to
her for 30 to 40 minutes. Do not have some huge, long
conversation that goes on and on for hours into the
evening. Always have a “bail excuse” ready to go. It
could even be “Hey, my mom is calling, I need to go, but
I’ll see you on Wednesday!”.
The longer you talk, the more likely you are to screw
things up. But talking for a while DOES increase the
chances of the first date “going somewhere”. So talk, but
keep the conversation to 30-40 minutes.
The second option is a good conversation over IM. Many

guys prefer this because the phone is too scary. However,
and this is a BIG “however”, it is actually easier to screw
things up in an IM conversation than in a phone
conversation. The reason is the women are less inhibited
over IM than talking on the phone, and thus will be more
aggressive, and will pin you down to harder
questions…questions you may answer incorrectly.
So as you can see, there are pros and cons to both IM and
the telephone, but you should do ONE of these two things
before you actually meet up. Even if she resists the
conversation because she “busy”, push for it as best you
can. It makes a big difference in the end.
Several things to remember about your first conversation:
A. Do it when you’re relaxed. If you’re uptight or

angry about something, do it some other time. You
need your wits about you.
B. Make her laugh in the conversation. Be funny, but
not silly.
C. Find commonalities between her and you, if
possible.
D. Let HER do the talking. Shut up. Listen. Ask
questions.
E. Do not fall into “job interview” questions. (“So
what do you do for a living? How many siblings do
you have?”) These are BORING. Keep the
conversation fun.
F. Tell stories; ideally, ones that demonstrate your
value as a man and ones that make her laugh.
Make sure they are SHORT stories, because again,
you want HER to do most the talking.
G. If you have the confidence to do this, move the
conversation into the topic of dating, men, and sex.
The best question to start this off is “So, have you
been dating a lot or a little lately?”
H. Exclude confidence and OI at all times.
All of these things I go into step-by-step detail about in

my second manual in the series, Dating Women: Getting
To Sex As Quickly As Possible, where I go into detail
how to have sex with her as quickly as possible after you
actually meet her, while spending the least amount of
time and money. But these tips should get you started.
4. Maintain contact through texting or email if she seems

comfortable with those mediums. By now you should
have at least her cell phone number, if not her actual
email address also, and likely she’s on your Facebook or
MySpace pages. Use these mediums to keep in contact
with her. Very soon, she will (likely) start to contact you
via email, texting, or MySpace/Facebook. This gives you
a clue as to how she likes to communicate.
Follow her lead and respond to her this way. Do NOT

have big, long conversations this way, and do NOT be
contacting her every day. You’re busy guy. Be
unavailable and aloof. The point here is to communicate
with her the way she likes to communicate (at least at this
stage of the game, which is before you’ve met her in
person).
One important point that bears repeating. Do NOT

continue to communicate with her over the original dating
site where you met her, if at all possible. You are trying
to move beyond the “stranger she’s emailing on some
dating site” mode and into the “cool guy I already know”
mode. Even if she tries to contact you through the dating
site, reply to her in other ways. It’s a subtle but powerful
method that makes a big difference.
Those are the four steps in the Comfort Bombardment

process. One final, very important word about this. These
are all things you do once you have a date scheduled and on
the calendar with her. These are NOT things you do before
the date is scheduled. Why? Because women LOVE to
“talk to guys online forever”. It makes them feel wanted,
makes them feel special, validates their egos, and satisfies
their need for attention. If you are squeamish about
scheduling a date with a woman, but keep talking to her via
DSEC, phone, texting, IM, or email, she will talk to you
forever.
Probably the single, biggest mistake men make when they

try online dating is to fall into this “talking to women online
forever” trap. Your job is to nail down that first meet during
TEP, within three email exchanges, before you start
“talking” to her. That’s why I make such a big deal about

TEP.
Online dating can be a huge time-waster in your life if you

let women lead you into the “talking forever” thing. Only
after she becomes a confirmed prospect has she earned the
right for you to start “talking” to her. And even then, you’re
not going to overdo it.
Spreadsheet Section: Your goal, before you actually meet

this woman, is to place a “Y” in both the Web column and
the Phone/IM column. A “Y” in these columns means she’s
been directed to your MySpace/Facebook/personal web site,
and you’ve had your IM or phone conversation with her. As
soon as you do these things, place a “Y” in those respective
columns. I always make sure that every woman I have a
first date with gets a “Y” in both of those columns before I
meet her in real life. It makes a huge difference in ensuring
that the first date goes somewhere beyond the first date.
And you know what I mean.
Chapter Eleven
Battling The Flake Factor
You’ve got your date scheduled, you’re talking to her, she’s
liking you, and is looking forward to meeting you. But
we’re not out of the woods yet.
Women are flakes. I don’t say that to be unkind. I’m just

stating fact. Most women, if they’re being honest, will agree
with me. Women are flakey. It’s not good or bad, it’s a
reality of who they are.
The good news is that if you’ve done everything in this

book, especially Comfort Bombardment, you’ve reduced the
odds of her flaking on the first date considerably. The last
step in the pre-date process is to contact her 24 to 48 hours
before the first date, and confirm things with her. You can
even just send her a text with “Hey you! You still good for
tomorrow at 6pm?” That’s all you need. You’d be surprised
at how many women, even very intelligent mature ones,
don’t actually write things down in schedules anywhere,
This technique will often save you a lot of hassle.
However, even with all of this, there is still a good 40% or

so chance that the woman will contact you sometime before
the first date, even the same day of the date, and cancel the
date with an attempt to reschedule. Her excuse will be
anywhere from “I forgot I have payroll today and have to
stay late after work” to “My daughter has a stomach ache” to
“OMG, I’m sooooo sorry! I totally forgot!!!”.
Her excuse is irrelevant. What’s relevant is that it’s going to

happen. Just plan on it, and don’t be too pissed off when it
does. It doesn’t (necessarily) mean you’re done anything
wrong.
When she does this, just be cool about it. Tell her no
problem, and right then and there, whip out your schedule,
and schedule the new date, time, and place for your first
date. If she says she “can’t right now”, that’s fine. Give her
a specific time when you two will communicate again to
figure out schedules.
Even with my solid system, women still reschedule my first

dates with them a good 30% to 40% of the time. But the
good news is at least 80% of the women who cancel the first
date do actually reschedule and I do actually end up meeting
them. So again, don’t worry if she tried to reschedule you. I
have had sex with plenty of women who rescheduled their
first date with me. It’s normal, and likely you’ll still end up
seeing her. Cancelling and rescheduling stuff is part of the
female existence.
Now, what if you reschedule, and she flakes on you again?

Now we have a problem. This is not good. She’s now
exhibiting a pattern of behavior. If she attempts a reschedule
a second time, this time, be firm. Let her know that you’re
getting concerned about her inability to manage her
schedule, that your time is valuable, and you do want to see
her, but if she schedules something with you again, you
expect her to be there. Then go ahead and reschedule one
more time.
If she flakes out a third time, forget her and move on. She’s
either a chaotic moron who can’t manage a schedule or she’s
going through a rough time in her life. Be nice, be cordial,
and move on. There are many more hot chicks where she
came from. Besides, if she’s just going through a rough
patch in her life, maybe she’ll be back one day.
Now that covers women who cancel and reschedule, but

sometimes, you will get women who cancel on you and
don’t want to reschedule. This is OK, and part of the

process. This usually means she’s met some other guy, or
some ex-boyfriend has returned, and she wants to “see
where things go” with this dude. No problem…be nice, be
cool about it, and tell her you hope it all works out.
…and keep her phone number. And keep her on your

MySpace/Facebook pages. Contact her again in 4-6 months.
You never know…
Chapter Twelve
You Did It!
Get through all of these hurdles, and now you’ve got your
first date! Hopefully, if you’ve been doing what I’ve been
telling you, you have MANY first dates with MANY
women. Never, ever go on one first date with one woman,
and rely totally on what happens with her. She may not like
you. You may not like her. She may flake on you later.
She may turn out to be a shrew. She may be a gold-digger.
She may have lied about her photos and looks very different.
Even if she turns out great, because you only have one first
date on your schedule, you will be totally reliant on what
happens on this first date, and women can smell neediness
and desperation, and it turns them off, big time (that would
be the opposite of OI). Of course I discuss exactly how to
get women into open relationships in my relationships
ebook, How To Create And Maintain Open Relationships
With Women.
“But I don’t want to date a bunch of women! I want a

serious girlfriend!” you say. Fine. It’s still important to go
on lots of first dates. What’s the best way to find a quality
girlfriend (or future wife)? Go on one date with one woman
and hope she’s perfect? Or go on 10 first dates with 10
women and pick the best one? You tell me!
PUT IN THE NUBMERS.
If you never tried it, I challenge you to go on 10 first dates,

with 10 new women, in the next two months. Most adults
have never gone on this many first dates in their entire lives,
and trust me, it will transform the way you think about
dating, relationships, women, and yourself. Go on 10 first
dates, and I guarantee, you will find a woman who you think
is amazing, and who thinks you are amazing. I’m quite

serious about this. Try it and you’ll see.
“So what do I do once I get her out on my first date?” you

ask. Well, that’s beyond the scope of this manual. My next
manual in the series, Dating Women: Getting To Sex As
Quickly As Possible, describes exactly what I do in order to
get from “first date to sex” as quickly as possible, with the
minimum amount of time, effort, and money spent. If this is
something you’re interested in, I encourage you to order a
copy. I go step-by-step on literally everything I do, just like
I do in this book.
Lastly, if you really want to hone your online game, my

ebook Improving Your Online Dating Results will take your
online dating to the next level. It’s the “advanced” manual.
Chapter Thirteen
Going Forward From Here
You’ve not done with the online dating funnel once you go
out on a first date or two. You’ve got to keep going.
Here’s what you should be doing on a regular basis:
1. Once a week or so, go back to your dating sites, and do

searches for all the new users, and send out more email
openers.
2. Once every four days or so, review the Days Since Her
column in your spreadsheet, and send out DSEC emails,
normal emails, or texts to women who get to four or five
days of no contact.
3. Periodically delete women from your spreadsheet whom

you haven’t heard from in 14 days.
4. Unless you’ve got it completely down cold, keep

practicing your confidence and OI. If necessary, get out
there and meet new women, even if it’s just for female
friends. This will help you tremendously.
5. Most importantly, keep doing on first dates until you have

achieved whatever dating goal you have set for yourself.
Don’t get lazy!
Unless my schedule is full of women I really like, or unless

I’m in a relationship with a woman I am 100% sure about, I
am in the midst of my regular online dating routine. My
routine is every Sunday afternoon and Wednesday evening.
I update my spreadsheet, send out emails, texts, and
schedule dates.
Until you accomplish what you want in your life in terms of

women or a relationship, I hope you will adopt a similar,
regular routine.
Regardless of what you do, I wish you the best, and hope
you find the type of woman (or women!) you’re looking for.
Good luck!
P.S. If you have any successes or interesting experiences

using this system, or even aspects of it, I’d love to hear
about it. Send me an email to –
[email protected]
Frequently Asked Questions

I worked with lots of men on getting their online dating
skills to a place where they can really get reliable, repeatable
results. Here are the questions I’m most often asked, and
their answers.
Aren’t women dishonest when it comes to their photos?

What if you get a woman who is older/uglier/fatter than
what she actually presents herself as?
Fortunately for us, most of the lying done in online dating is

done by men, not women. Women, generally speaking, are
relatively truthful online. The only danger is meeting up
with a woman who doesn’t have enough pictures that display
her whole body.
There are lots of women out there who look beautiful from
the shoulders up, but are seriously overweight (or grossly
skinny) from the shoulders down. Be very wary of setting
up date with a woman who’s profile photos only show her
face, or show her from a far distance. If in doubt, give her
your email address and ask her to email you one or two full
body photos of her that are less than a year old. Yes, I have
done this, and most women will be understanding of this and
will comply.
Meet up with a woman who’s only photos you’ve seen is of

her face, and you’re rolling the dice. Don’t do it, unless you
like overweight women.
What if I say X in my profile? Will that work?
I get a lot of questions like this.
Frankly, 80% of the determining factor in whether or not a

woman will respond is your photos, not what you say in
your profile. Women are VERY picky online when looking

at photos of men. So your profile text can be fantastic, but if
your photo is off, or if you don’t look like her “type”, you’re
out. So worry more about your photos than what you say or
don’t say in your profile.
What should I do if a woman opens ME?
If a woman checks out your profile, and sends you an email

out of the blue, great. Before you respond, check out her
profile and her photos. Make sure you like her. If you do,
respond to her email, and start TEP. Proceed with the
process normally. Usually you can nail down the first date
with her sooner than with other women, because hey, she
contacted YOU. The good news is that women who open
you have a higher chance of actually getting to a first date
with you.
No one is emailing me!
I know! Women won’t email you! Who cares? You do not

have the luxury of just sitting back and waiting for the hot
babes to start emailing you. YOU must email THEM.
Women can sit around, wait a few days, get hundreds of
emails from guys, and pick out the ones you want. You and
I don’t have this luxury. Get to work.
Women keep saying they want to talk to me more before I

meet them.
Yep, some of women will do this. This is why you MUST

1) ask them to meet you for drinks by the third email
exchange, 2) don’t IM or call them until she has scheduled a
date with you, and 3) keep your pre-first-date
communication short (i.e. one conversation that lasts less
than 40 minutes).
As I’ve said more than once already, women will drive you
insane if you let them “talk” to you without having a date
scheduled. I’m serious. Be strong, be tough, be a man. Nail
down that meet. If she says no, be polite and MOVE ON.
NEXT! There are LOTS of women out there!
I’ve run a search on my dating site, and I’ve already gone

through all the women I’m interested in. There aren’t
enough on here! Now what?
Hit up another dating site. Or two. Or three.
If you live in a small town, and live far away from a major
city, I don’t have any easy answers for you. Online dating
works best for people who live in cities, even if it’s a small
city. (I live in a city, and even though it’s a small city, I do
just fine.)
Now, if you do live in a city, and have “run out” of women

on your dating site, make sure you are attacking other dating
sites, as I’ve said.
Also, start a new routine where once a week, you hit all of
your dating sites, and you do searches for all the new users.
Specifically, the users who have signed up in the last week.
If you’re hitting 2-4 dating sites, you will have plenty of
fresh new “raw recruits” every week to sort through and
send email openers to.
What about trying to meet women on social networking sites

like MySpace and Facebook? How does that work?
I have successfully dated (and had sex with) women I have

met from MySpace and Facebook, but the sequence is a bit
different than meeting women on a dating site. Women on a
social networking site are not there to necessarily find a
boyfriend. This means when you open them, it must be very
casual, very friendly, and full of OI. Then you must engage
in a back and forth email conversation that lasts much longer
than TEP. 10, 15 or even 20 exchanges, rather than 3. Then,
once you’ve gained some rapport and trust (and you’ve
added her to your friends), you can (carefully, carefully)
pitch the first date.
Needless to say, because of all of that screwing around, the

odds of getting a woman to meet you in real life via a social
networking site are lower than on a dating site, requiring you
to put in much more numbers into the top of your funnel,
and requiring much more patience.
My advice is to get good at meeting women online via

dating sites first, then tackle the social networking sites once
you really know what you’re doing. This is exactly what I
did. When I first tried dating women via social networking
sites, I spent piles of time with zero results, so I dropped it.
A good year or two later, once I had my online dating
system perfected, I tried the MySpace/Facebook stuff once
again, and THEN, I got fantastic results.
Glossary
Classified Site – A site where people can place personals
ads, like Craigslist.
Comfort Bombardment – A phase of the online dating

process where, once you have scheduled a first date with a
confirmed prospect, you make her feel like she already
knows you, and thus is not meeting a complete stranger on a
first date. This has been proven to raise the odds of your
first date actually going somewhere past the first date.
Confirmed Prospect – A woman you have actually

scheduled a first date with, but the date hasn’t actually
happened yet.
DHV – Demonstration of Higher Value. Doing something

or showing something that portrays you has a higher-value
man to a woman. It could be as simple as being funny, or as
complicated as the fact that you’re a doctor.
DOLCFH – Stands for Date Of Last Contact From Her. On

your spreadsheet, it’s the date you last heard from her.
DOLCFM – Stands for Date Of Last Contact From Me. On

your spreadsheet, it’s the date you last sent her a text, email,
or voice mail…or the date you last spoke to her.
Dating Site – A site where people gather for the purpose of

meeting other people to date. These are different from social
networking sites or sex sites.
DSEC – Dating Site Email Communication. When you are

emailing a woman on a dating site, using the dating site’s
own email system. This is different than actually using your
own email address to email her own email address. Your
goal is to get the woman off DSEC as quickly as possible

and on to other forms of communication, even if it’s just
your normal email account.
Email Opener – The very first email you send to a woman

on a dating site to try to “open” her to a conversation with
you.
FB - Friend with Benefits. A woman you’ve dated and had

sex with, and who you really have no desires for beyond just
sex.
Match.com - Popular dating site, and one I recommend.
Funnel – The figurative construct that represents all the

women you are currently “working on”. There should be as
many women as possible in your funnel at all times, and you
should be using a spreadsheet to track the status of all of
these women.
LTR - Long Term Relationship. A woman you’ve dated,

had sex with, and have made some commitments to..
OI – Outcome Independence. Not caring at all how the

situation with a particular woman ends up. Whether or not
you ever see her, or see her again, or have sex with her, you
don’t care. It’s A VERY attractive quality to women when
you have it.
OKCupid - Popular dating and social networking site, and

one I recommend.
ONS - One Night Stand. A woman you have sex with, and
never have sex with again.
Open – Used as a verb. When someone sends an email to

someone else online, cold, without ever having
communicated with them, that means you’ve “opened”

them. You can open women, and sometimes, women will
open you.
POF - Stands for Plenty of Fish. Popular dating site, and

one I recommend.
Prospect – A women you are communicating with on a

dating site, but never met in real life, who seems interested
in you.
Target – A woman on a dating site you’d like to try to date,

but haven’t communicated with yet.
TEP – The Three Exchange Process. A process, and a

reminder, to pitch the first date to a woman within three
email exchanges between the two of you.
Sex Site – A site where people gather for the purpose of

having sex. These are different from dating sites, where the
goal is dating and then sex, not just sex up front.
Social Networking Site – A site that isn’t necessarily for

dating, but where you can find women who may be
interested in dating you. MySpace and Facebook are the two
biggest ones, but there are many others.
WD – Woman you’re Dating. A woman you are dating,

having sex with, and have real feelings for, but one you are
not exclusive with (yet…or maybe ever).
Yahoo Personals - Popular online dating site, and one I

recommend, with some caveats.
Zoosk - Popular dating site, and one I recommend.
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Table Of Contents
1. Dating In The Modern Era 5
2. An Overview Of The System 10
3. Putting In The Numbers 17
4. Your Objective 23
5. Confidence And Outcome Independence 26
6. Preparation 31
7. Grooming And Physical Appearance 36
8. The Different Types Of Women 46
9. Comfort Bombardment 53
10. The First Date 58
11. Between The First And Second Date 77
12. The Second Date 80
13. Getting To Sex 85
14. Troubleshooting 93
15. Dating After Sex 97
Chapter One
Dating In The Modern Era
During the 1950’s, if a man wanted to have a relationship
with a woman, or even if he just wanted to have sex with a
woman, he had to take her out on things called “dates”. This
means he had to dress up really nice, drive to her house, pick
her up, then drive her to the most expensive restaurant he
could afford, then buy her food and drinks, pay for it all,
listen to her talk for several hours about subjects he really
didn’t care about, then drive her to a movie or some other
event, pay for that, then drive her back home, walk her to her
door, and if he was really, really lucky, he’d get a kiss on the
cheek, after which she would vanish into her house, leaving
him alone on her doorstep.
Seems a tad lopsided.
That’s what we call massive work for little results.
But it gets worse. If he wanted more from this woman than

just a kiss on the cheek, he would have to do this exact same
“date” thing MULTIPLE TIMES. Over and over again, he
had to do this, well before he could make out with her, or
touch one of her boobs, or have sex with her, assuming she
allowed sex before marriage, which most women back in the
1950’s did not.
Now here’s the deal…that system was just fine. As a man, I

have no problem with that system at all. Why? Because
back in the 1950’s, once this guy actually married this
woman, this woman would serve him, 24 hours a day, 7 days
a week, literally for the rest of his life. She would constantly
clean his house, have dinner ready for him every night,
massage his feet after work every day, raise his children
without asking him to help much other than to dish out
punishment, have sex with him whenever he demanded, and

in many cases would even let him have sex with other
women as long as he was discreet about it and was home in
time for dinner. (Ever hear of JFK?) And since people
didn’t really divorce back then, she would never leave him.
Let me ask you a question. Do women TODAY do any of

that?
Of course they don’t. Hell, you probably just laughed out

loud. (Even if you’re a woman!) The independent woman
of the 21st century is no where near the slave-like woman of
the 1950’s.
And that’s a good thing.
Because, now that women don’t do that kind of thing any

more, men who understand women, and who know how to
date women, can get what they want from women (be it sex,
a relationship, or whatever) without any of the time, effort,
and money spent that the poor 1950’s guy had to deal with.
It’s a pretty good deal, for the men who know how to do it.
The problem is, when it comes to dating and relationships,
while modern women have evolved from their 1950’s
predecessors, most modern men still have not.
Most men today, particularly those over age 25, still follow
the outdated 1950’s dating model of “dinner and a movie”.
And this is a huge, huge mistake. Women aren’t like they
were in the 1950’s. It’s time to adjust.
For example, I follow a very different system.
Like most men, I like to have sex. Often. I consider it a

very important thing that, as a very masculine man, I cannot
go without. In the last several years, I have dated scores of
women. These women have been of all ages, from age 18 to

age 47. All of these women are at least an “8” on the
attractiveness “1 to 10” scale (I only date women who are
very, very attractive). Some of them have been celebrities.
Others have been actresses, models, students, corporate
executives, dancers, wealthy heiresses, attorneys,
singers…you name it. The majority of them have been
attractive, intelligent, engaging, and fun to be with.
The total average amount of “face-time” from the moment I

meet a woman in person to when we have sex is around four
hours. The total amount of money I spend from the moment
I meet her to when we have sex, on average, when I do
actually spend money, is around 32 dollars. About 25% of
the time, it’s zero dollars.
I am not some Hollywood-gorgeous hunk. As a matter of

fact, during the last several years of me doing this, I was a
good 40 pounds overweight. Also, I never lie to any of these
women. I am not a “player” who sleeps with a bunch of
women and tells them all they are the only woman in his life.
I never have to promise monogamy or exclusivity to a
woman to have sex with her. (In my opinion, that kind of
thing comes down the road anyway, not when you first have
sex.)
I am also not a “pickup artist”, at least not what is typically

thought of when that term is used. I don’t hang out at bars
and loud clubs, making out with complete strangers in the
back of the room, staying up to 3am on a weeknight so I can
have sex with some wild, average-looking, drunken party
girl. Nope, I’m a self-employed, divorced, thirtysomething
man with two children, a business to run, and a life. You’ll
almost never see me awake past eleven on a weeknight.
In this book, I’m going to lay out for you exactly how I do
all of this, so you can do the same thing.
My objective when I date is to have sex as quickly as

possible, with attractive women, with the minimum amount
time, effort, drama, and money spent, without having to lie,
and without having to stay up late into the evening.
By the end of this book, you will know how to do exactly

the same thing.
“But I don’t want just sex! I want to find that special

woman to have a relationship with!” you (might) say.
So do I. We all want that special woman. But think about

this…do you want to date a woman for weeks and weeks
like Mr. 1950’s had to do, with zero sex, and then commit to
some kind of relationship or “setup”, and THEN start to
have sex? I seriously doubt that sounds like a good system
to you. And as you’ll soon see, today’s women want sex
sooner rather than later also! They don’t advertise this, but
they DO. More on this later.
Let’s be adults about this. In the modern era, sex comes

first, the serious relationship stuff comes afterwards. The
only exception to this is the tiny category of people out there
who are super-duper religious…and frankly, if you’re
reading this book, you’re not in that category.
So sex is the objective here, regardless of your goals beyond

sex. If your goal is just to have sex, great. If it’s to find a
girlfriend, great. If it’s to get married, great. All of these are
compatible goals with this book. I generally don’t do the
one night stand thing (ONS). Once I have sex with a
woman, I want to have sex with her again and again, for as
long as possible, even if I’m not attracted to her on a serious,
romantic level (and this is a perfectly valid way to date a
woman, as long as you aren’t lying to her or implying
conditions that don’t exist).
So, I have written this book with the bias that I’m
(somewhat) assuming once you have sex with a woman,
you’re going to want to continue to see her…though I do
actually address the issue of the ONS, as well as the three
types of relationships in a later chapter.
Chapter Two
An Overview Of The System
I have sex with a woman on the second or third date.
Sometimes, I have sex on the fourth date, but that’s rare. So
I have a “two or three date system”.
I almost never have sex on the first date.
And, I do NOT have sex with a woman for the first time past
the fourth date. If a woman doesn’t have sex with me by the
fourth date, she’s OUT, and I focus on other women.
Nowadays, I can sniff these women out pretty quickly and
dump them well before the fourth date, which is why getting
to four dates without sex is a pretty rare thing for me; with
practice, you will learn to do the same.
Let me explain the reasons behind both of those parameters.
Why I don’t have sex on the first date.
Having sex with a woman on the first date is difficult.

Women’s brains are chock FULL of societal programming
that says having sex with a guy on the first date is “bad”.
The silly part of this is that these same women have no
problem having sex on the second or third date, but for some
reason even they can’t explain, having sex on the first date is
“bad” and makes them a “slut”. But having sex on date
number two or three doesn’t make her a slut at all. No, it
doesn’t make any sense. Welcome to the wonderful world
of woman-logic.
Yes, there are plenty of women out there who will have sex
on the first date. But in the majority of these cases, the only
way to consistently bypass this “sex on the first date makes
me a slut” thing is to spend a LONG time with her on the
first date, way into the late evening, ideally get some alcohol
in her, isolate her, and repeatedly push her hard for sex. If
you’re a confident guy and you do all that, you might have a
shot.
Frankly, that doesn’t sound like a lot of fun to me. Staying

up really late just makes me think of having a horrible,
groggy workday the next day. Getting a woman drunk isn’t
my style. And trying to talk a reluctant woman into having
sex with me really doesn’t turn me on at all. It’s a time-
consuming hassle. Remember, one of our objectives is to
get laid with a minimum amount of drama. A relentless,
constant attack on her I-don’t-have-sex-on-the-first-date
shield violates this objective.
I have buddies who are really good at “picking up chicks”

and having sex with women on the first date, or the “first
meet”. Two problems with this. Firstly, usually these
women are not 8’s, 9’s or 10’s. They’re usually 6’s (or
worse). No thank you. Remember another component of
our objective, to sleep with attractive women, not
“acceptable” women. Secondly, the vast majority of the
time, these same guys are staying up really late into the
evening and having sex at about 2am. Many of these guys
like this interplay and challenge and the feeling of
accomplishment when they finally “bag her”.
I don’t. I think it’s too much trouble. Plus, I’m well into my
thirties; if I was 22 years old I might have a different
opinion. Also, I sometimes date women 15 years older than
me and/or 20 years younger than me. Try having sex with a
girl 20 years younger than you on the very first date. Good
luck with that.
(Now if you’re more a “sex on the first date” type guy, that’s
great. Don’t let me stop you. Take what you can learn from
this book and integrate it into what you do.)
So what’s the answer to all of this? The good news is this:

If women won’t have sex with you on the first date, but will
have sex on the second or third date, all you need to do is
make the first date as brief and as inexpensive as possible,
while simultaneously making it appear you’re really
“treating her”. I’ll describe how to do this, in detail.
Why I have sex on the second or third date.
Just like women today are “wired” to not have sex on the
first date, the vast majority of women out there are “wired”
to have sex on the third date (and remember, often this “third
date” is the second date). To them, the third date just
“seems right”. Part of this is biological. In prehistoric
times, women could not mate with a man unless she was
sure he would stick around and protect her cave (with her
children inside). This exact same programming still exists in
women’s brains today.
The other reason is societal. A woman doesn’t feel like a

“slut” if she has sex with you on the second or third date.
She can have sex with you and feel good about it. It’s
normal to her. After all, all of her friends have sex with
guys on about the third date too. So does her sister. You get
the idea.
Assuming you do everything I teach you in this book, you’re

going to have women happily having sex with you on the
second or third date. They’re going to WANT it. This is a
far cry from trying to “talk them into sex” on the first date
(or getting them tipsy with alcohol and hoping you score).
I’ve had women who were very prude and prissy with me on
the first date who literally couldn’t unzip their own pants
fast enough on the second date. I’ve had very attractive
women who haven’t had sex with any other man for literally
years whip off their own clothes on the second or third date
with me. This goes for sexually experienced woman and
complete virgins and women who were near-virgins (i.e.
women who had only been with one other man prior to me).
Also, and this is important, I’ve slept with many women

who had gone on many first dates with other men who they
didn’t sleep with, because, as these women themselves said,
“He tried to have sex with me on the first date!”
The third date is magical in women’s brains. In her world, if

it’s the third date, it’s time for sex. So, your goal is to get to
the third date (or usually, the second date) as quickly as you
can, and as cheaply as you can, as I’ll soon describe.
Why I dump women who don’t have sex with me by the

end of the fourth date.
This is a touchy subject. Women who applaud me when I

say I never try to have sex on the first date will suddenly
grimace and hate my guts when I say I dump women who
don’t have sex with me by the fourth date.
Here are the realities:
1. I can tell you for a fact, after dating many, many

women, there is no difference in quality between
women who have sex on the second or third date and
women who make you wait longer. There is a myth in
society that women who “put out” sooner are dumber,
or less mature, or less successful, or more cheap, or
more dramatic, or more trashy. I myself bought into
this myth for a time. But I’ve dated huge numbers of
women since then, and I can tell you, beyond a
shadow of a doubt, there is no truth to this.
There is NO difference in quality between women who

will have sex with you on the second date and those
who make you wait longer!
2. As I stated above, most women like to have sex on the

third date. So by pursuing women who make you wait
longer, you really are wasting your time. For every
beautiful, intelligent, fun woman who is making you
wait, there is another beautiful, intelligent, fun woman
right around the corner who will have sex with you on
the third date. It’s silly to waste your time with the
former when you can be dealing with the latter. (And
remember, there is NO difference in quality between
these two women.)
3. If you want to have sex on the third date, and the

woman you’re dating wants to have sex on the tenth
date (for example) and she somehow talks you into
this, you have just set into motion a relationship that
won’t work. She has forced you to adhere to her
system. Because of this, I guarantee that down the
road, there will be other significant and problematic
sexual or relationship differences between the two of
you that you will have to wrestle with. And she will
expect you to comply with her, just like you did
earlier. What she should do is stop dating you, and go
date a man who likes to have sex on the tenth date like
she does. She shouldn’t be forcing a man she’s
sexually incompatible with into her mold.
The exact same goes for you. You should be dating a

woman who is as sexually comfortable as you are, not
some woman who is more frigid than you, who you
now have to “mold” or “convince” or “negotiate with”.
Politely stop dating her, and go find another woman
who is already compatible with you. (We’re going to
really get into this in the next chapter.)
4. All of that being said, here’s the BIG REASON that I,

personally, won’t date a woman past the fourth date if
she refuses to have sex with me. In my experience,
when a woman is still resisting sex on the third or
fourth date, but wants to keep dating you anyway,
something is wrong. There’s something foul afoot. I
have found it’s always one of the following three
things:
a. She likes your company, but doesn’t really like

you romantically. She never intends on having
sex with you. She doesn’t think of you that way.
You’ve entered into her “friend zone”, and
you’re now trapped there forever. You do NOT
want to keep dating this woman, for obvious
reasons. There’s a word for a man who
continues to date a woman like this…“sucker”
(though that word has since morphed into
“chump”, “schmuck”, then “chode”). Don’t be
chode.
b. She does like you romantically, but she’s got

some kind of sexual hang-up. Maybe she’s a
virgin. Maybe she’s been raped. Maybe she
hasn’t had sex in 5 years. Maybe she’s just been
through an abortion. Maybe she has an STD.
Maybe she’s super-duper religious. Maybe she a
gold-digger and you “haven’t spent enough
money on her yet”. Maybe she has cervical
cancer. Maybe she’s just gotten out of a horrible
relationship with a man who lied to her badly
and she’s super-sensitive about sex right now.
In my adventures, I’ve run into all of these
cases, and many others. And all of these women
are usually BAD NEWS. Be polite, and MOVE
ON.
c. She does like you romantically, and she doesn’t

have any sexual hang-ups, but she’s already
dating or sleeping with another guy, and she
“doesn’t know what to do”. She is attracted to
you, but if she has sex with you, while
continuing to have sex with her current guy, then
she’s a “slut”, and she risks losing the other guy.
She doesn’t want to break up with him, and she
doesn’t want to break up with you. So, she’s
going to just keep you around until she “figures
it all out”. Yeah. You can see where this is
going, or should I say not going. Look, you
don’t want the be the guy she’s not sleeping
with. You want to be the guy she is sleeping
with. MOVE ON. (Keep her phone number
though, and call her back in three months.)
As I’ve said, the good news is once you’re doing everything

right, women who won’t have sex with you by the fourth
date usually won’t make it to the fourth date anyway. You’ll
be able to detect them and screen them out far sooner than
that. It is very, very rare in my current dating life for me to
get to four dates without sex. We either have sex well
before then, or we stop seeing each other well before then.
So there you have it. I’m going to teach you a “two or three
date” system to sex. The dates are going to be quick,
inexpensive, and conducive to your schedule.
Chapter Three
Putting In The Numbers
What I’m about to pronounce is the number one thing men
do wrong when it comes to dating. Here it is:
They date one woman at a time.
You know the drill:
1. Man meets woman.
2. Man gets turned on by woman.
3. Man goes out on a few dates with woman.
4. Man gets infatuated with woman.
5. Man has sex with woman.
6. Man starts getting territorial and jealous with woman.
7. Man gives woman the “we should be exclusive” talk.

(Contrary to popular belief, it is usually men who initiate
exclusivity in dating relationships, not women, and by a
large margin.)
8. Man starts to get uncomfortable with woman when

woman hangs out with, or calls, or texts other men.
9. Man starts experiencing drama with woman.
10. Woman’s attraction for man lessens.
11. After a few weeks or months, woman leaves man.

(Statistics again. Most relationships are ended by women,
again by a large margin.)
12. Man becomes stalker.
13. Man calls/texts/emails woman 10,000 times a day

trying to get woman back.
14. After about 10,000 blow offs and rejections from

woman for weeks on end, man finally, reluctantly, moves
on.
15. Man is depressed for several weeks/months, pining

away about woman.
16. Man meets another woman.
17. Entire process repeats with new woman.
This phenomenon is called “oneitis”. It’s a very common

disease, you’ve probably had it, or something similar, at
least once or twice in your life (I know I have). Oneitis is
when you focus all of your energy, action, and thoughts on
ONE woman. Of course, if you’re actually married, or
living with a super-duper serious girlfriend, that might be
fine. But barring those two situations, this condition is
death. It leads to drama, chaos, anger, cheating, and lots of
hurt feelings.
When you focus 100% of your dating energies on one

woman, you pin all of your hopes, dreams and desires on
that one woman. If it doesn’t work out with her, you are
devastated. If she doesn’t behave exactly the way you think
a woman should behave, you’re pissed. If she hangs out
with other men, or texts them on her phone, you’re jealous
as hell.
Women feel this. It’s a very unattractive quality, and when

you have oneitis for a woman, it actually repels her. You
make it that much harder for her to get intimate, or stay
intimate, with you. (The opposite of oneitis is “outcome
independence”, or OI, which I will describe in a later
chapter.)
If you instead focus on dating many woman at a time, this

dynamic is either absent or dramatically reduced. If you
have 10 first dates scheduled with 10 women, all of whom
are attractive enough for you to really want to have sex with,
are you really going to care if the third woman you meet
doesn’t like you? Or is texting other men all the time? Or
acts whiny? Or acts in a manner you think a woman
shouldn’t act like?
Unless you’re a really dramatic, touchy guy, the answer is

no. Dating many woman at once actually, believe it or not,
takes most of the stress out of dating!
As a side benefit, when women clearly get the vibe that you
don’t care if it works out with her or not, women become
tremendously attracted to you. More on this a little later.
As I mentioned last chapter, even if you don’t want to date

lots of women, even if your goal is to find a soul mate to be
with, you’re still going to glean far more positive results if
you date lots of woman at once instead of plodding along
dating one at a time. Date a PILE of woman, get many
attracted to you, and THEN pick your favorite! What a
fantastic place to be in as compared to Mr. Oneitis I
described in the sequence above. Let me also point out that
you don’t have to actually be having sex with all of these
woman (unless you want to)
Let’s take a completely different sequence than Mr. Oneitis,

above. This is the sequence I follow:
1. Man talks to many attractive, high quality women (in

his work life, in his social life, at bars, at clubs, at
bookstores, online dating sites, online social
networking sites, in his dance class, at the gym, or
whatever).
2. Man goes on 10, 20, 30 or more first dates many

women, all of whom the man considers very attractive.
3. Lots of women don’t click with the man. There are so

many women in the pool, the man doesn’t care.
4. Lots of women the man doesn’t like. The man doesn’t

see those again. He can afford to be picky now.
5. Out of 10, 20 or 30 (or whatever) women, there are 2

to 10 women he really likes and who really like him.
6. Man dates these 2 to 10 woman for a bit.
7. Over time, many of the woman disqualify themselves,

causing the man to stop dating them.
8. Man now has many options to choose from, including,

but not limited to:
A. Out of the remaining group of amazing woman the

man is dating, man picks the best one he likes the
most and gets exclusive with her. This woman is of
far, far higher quality than any woman he could
have found using the “date one at a time” system
(and that system would have taken him many
drama-filled YEARS instead of a few months). Or,
B. Man decides he likes dating multiple women and

continues to do so. Or,
C. Man continues to date multiple woman until one

woman naturally “rises to the top”, and man gets
serious with her over time, in a very organic
fashion.
Every single problem you are going to run into in dating is

solved by PUTTING IN THE NUMBERS; dating several
women at once, and I’m going to keep going back to this
maxim over and over again in this book until you’re sick of
hearing about it.
Focus on the many, not the one.
“OK, great, where do I FIND all of these women?”
Where and how to meet women or “pick up” women is

beyond the topic of this book. If you’ve already read the
first book in this series, How To Fill Your Calendar With
Dates Using Online Dating, you already know a proven,
step-by-step system to fill your schedule with as many first
dates as you like using online dating sites. It’s how I do it
and I highly recommend you do it as well. So I highly
recommend my Online Dating book if you haven’t already
read it.
If online dating isn’t your thing, here are several other ways
to meet women:
1. As you go about your life during your day-to-day

activities, meet women at the mall, grocery store,
bookstore, whatever. I’ve done this often and with great
results.
2. If it’s appropriate, you can meet women through your

work.
3. If you’re a younger party guy, you can meet women at

parties, bars, and clubs.
4. Sign up for some dance classes. A great and easy way to

meet women (physically fit women, I might add).
5. The gym.
6. Other personals type ads either in real newspapers or

online.
7. Speed-dating. Not exactly my thing, but I know men who

have been very successful in dating women this way.
8. Through your school, training, or continuing education.
9. Through women (and men) you already know. I know

single guys who put on small parties and get-togethers
every other weekend at their homes…they meet a lot of
women this way.
10. Did I say online? Dating sites like Match.com and

social networking sites like MySpace (for you younger
guys) or Facebook are all fantastic places to meet women
(get my book, How To Fill Your Calendar With Dates
Using Online Dating, for exactly how to fill your
schedule with first dates with very desirable women).
These ideas should get you started.
Chapter Four
Your Objective
Before you begin this process, you should be very clear
about your short-term objectives regarding dating and
women. I say “short-term” because I think just about all
men have the same long-term objective, to eventually find
that one woman. Even if this is not your long-term
objective, that’s irrelevant. You must know exactly, and I
mean exactly what you want out of dating, right now.
Do you want a girlfriend? Do you want to get married? Do

you just want lots of sex? Do you want a friend with
benefits? Do you want many of them? Do you want to just
“date” to see what’s out there? Do you have a goal of sexing
100 women? Do you want a woman to move in with?
I don’t know what your goal is, and I’m not here to judge. If
you want to be married in the next six months, great, that’s
your goal and I’m here to help. If you want a roster of 10
different friends with benefits buddies on “rotation”, great,
that’s your goal and I’m here to help. I don’t care. But
YOU need to know what your goal is.
This is because from the very first date, your approach, your
aura, your subcommunication will be very different if you
want a girlfriend, vs. if you’re just out for sex. You must be
congruent with your objective at all times. If you’re not,
you’re in for a pile of drama, chaos, wasted time, and hurt
feelings. How many times has a person wanted just sex
from a person they were dating, and the other person wanted
more, and this lead to huge, dramatic blow-outs? This is
something you want to avoid.
This brings up the topic of different types of relationships.

Below are the four types of relationships, and you need to
know which one you’re after. Throughout the rest of this
book, I’m going to refer do these, and my advice will be
different based what type of relationship you want.
The four different types of relationships are:
1. LTR. Long Term Relationship. This means an

exclusive girlfriend. You may eventually marry her,
or not, but the point is you’re exclusive to her, and she
to you. LTR’s are “serious”.
2. FB. Friend with Benefits. A woman you don’t have

romantic feelings for at all, but one you enjoy having
sex with. You can see an FB regularly, or
infrequently. You even can have more than one at a
time.
3. WD. Woman you’re Dating. Like an FB, you can

have more than one at a time. Unlike an FB, a WD is
a woman you may actually have some feelings for, and
see on a regular basis. You’re actually taking her out
on dates, and cuddling after sex. But she’s not an
LTR, because you don’t “love” her, you’re not
“serious”, and you’re not exclusive. You can be
dating (and/or having sex with) other women at the
same time you’re dating her (and frankly, she can be
dating other guys if she wishes). A WD can be
“upgraded” to an LTR later if things work out. Or,
they can be “downgraded” to an FB if the emotions
fade. Or the relationship can end before either of these
things happen.
4. ONS. One-night stand. (Not really a “relationship” in

the strictest sense of the word.) You have sex with
her, then move on and never see her again (or at least
never have sex with her again). As I’ve said, this is

really not my style, but it may be yours, and that’s
fine.
I go into detail on exactly how to create and manage

relationships like this in my relationships ebook, How To
Create And Maintain Open Relationships. This is just an
overview here.
Your objective should be one of the preceding types of

relationships, or a combination thereof. Maybe you want an
LTR as soon as possible. Maybe you want one or more
WD’s, with the eventual goal of an LTR, if things work out
with one of them. Maybe you don’t want anything serious at
all, and just want FB’s or ONS’s. Maybe you want to be an
absolute mack-daddy pimp and have a schedule full of WD’s
and FB’s.
Again, I don’t care, it’s up to you. But YOU need to be very

clear about what you want. Make sure you know what your
objective is before continuing on. It’s critical.
Chapter Five
Confidence And Outcome
Independence
(Note: If you’ve already read my book How To Fill Your
Calendar With Dates Using Online Dating, most of this
chapter is repeated from that book and you can skip this
chapter if you like. However, it is so important I would
recommend reading it again.)
Some men date a lot, talk to a lot of women, go on lots of

first “dates” (or similar), but never get laid. Other men get
laid a lot, almost effortlessly. The difference between these
two types of men is primarily two things: confidence and
outcome independence (or OI).
Confidence means you can sit across from a Hollywood-

level gorgeous woman or a billionaire CEO, and be totally
relaxed and unafraid. Confidence is demonstrated by things
like talking slowly and deeply, slow movements, solid eye
contact, a relaxed, kicked-back demeanor, laughter, and a
big smile. Confidence is not “acting cool” or “acting
tough”. No, a truly confident man doesn’t have to do any of
these things. Confidence is being relaxed, at ease, in
control, and in charge.
OI means that you literally don’t care. You don’t care if you
ever see this woman ever again. You don’t care what she
thinks about you. If she rips off her clothes and throws
herself at you, or if she ends up calling you an asshole and
storms off, never wanting to see you again…it’s all the same
to you. You just don’t care.
Confidence and OI are very, very attractive qualities to

women. As a matter of fact, the more attractive and
desirable a woman is, the more attracted she will be to men

who are confident and outcome independent. Confidence
and OI, when combined, are literally a love potion that
works almost every time.
In this book, we’re going to cover a lot of technique, and

technique is critical. However, if you are:
1. Confident, and
2. Don’t care about the outcome
…your technique can be POOR, and you will still be

successful with women.
Whereas, if you are:
1. Inwardly nervous or feel unworthy, and/or
2. Really, really care a lot about what happens and how this
ends up,
…even if your technique is PERFECT, the only time you

will get laid is if you are really lucky, or if she’s really
drunk.
You must master confidence and OI before your technique

will do anything of real value for you.
You may already be a confident, outcome-independent guy.

That’s great. But what if you’re not? How do you develop
confidence and OI if you don’t have it? You can’t just tell
someone “be confident” or “just don’t care what she says!”
Clearly that won’t work.
So you have to ACT confident and outcome independent.

Keep acting this way, and you will eventually FEEL this
way. So how exactly do you do that?
Here’s how:
1. Learn exactly what confidence and outcome independence

look like.
A. For confidence, study any James Bond movie, any

old Arnold Schwarzenegger action movie, and study
men in movies like Morgan Freeman, Ed Harris, and
Sean Connery (there are many other good examples of
confident men in movies and on TV…choose as you
like).
B. For OI, study guys in movies like Jim Carrey,

Kevin Kline, and especially James Woods, the
absolute king of OI. The two best movies to study
James Woods, to learn what true OI looks like: The
1988 film Cop, and the 1994 film The Specialist.
Cop is insane, dark, and beautiful. James Woods is

doing things like murdering suspects, telling his boss
off, having S&M sex with witnesses, and just doing
whatever he damn well pleases (it also has one of the
best endings in Hollywood history, in my opinion).
In The Specialist, the movie itself isn’t that great, but

it’s fascinating to watch the contrast between
confidence and OI. When you watch it, notice the clear
difference between the confident-type villain (played
by Eric Roberts) and “don’t care” villain, played by
Woods. It’s great.
Quick side note: There is one guy that even beats

James Woods if you want to do a little digging. The
BBC science fiction television series Dr. Who, back in

the 1970’s, had the main character played by a man
named Tom Baker. If you want to see OI in action, this
guy was amazing. Rent or buy some DVD’s (they are
still being published), try to ignore the terrible 1970’s
BBC special effects, and watch this guy. He was a
genius. If James Woods is the OI king, Tom Baker
was the OI god. (The current, modern Doctor Who,
David Tennant, is also very good).
2. Walk around your house, in front of the mirror, and in

front of friends, emulating how these men move, walk, and
talk. Literally practice this. Do it over and over again. Way
back when I got started with all of this, when I felt myself
drifting, I would sometimes channel James Bond, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, James Woods, or Tom Baker when I was
with a woman (nowadays it’s embedded in who I am so it’s
automatic).
3. If you really want to make this work, and still don’t think
you’re quite there, once you think you’ve got these
mannerisms down, pick out your ugliest female friend and
take her out on a fake date. If you want, explain what you’re
trying to do. DON’T try to have sex her! You want OI! You
don’t care what happens (remember?).
On the “date” pick out your favorite example for confidence

and your favorite example for OI, and while you’re with her,
act like him all night. I don’t care if you are nervous as hell
inside. Act the part. If you want to practice the techniques
you are about to learn in this book, go ahead, but focus on
being confident and not caring about the outcome.
Hey, if you end up actually having sex with your ugly

female friend, fine, but that’s not the objective here. Your
objective to practice acting confident and outcome
independent.
4. Control your body language. Whenever you walk,

imagine a string attached to the top of your head, pulling you
upward like a puppet. This will force you to walk very
differently.
When sitting, lean BACK, and completely relax. Don’t

slouch, that’s leaning forward. Lean back. Don’t lean
forward like you’re interested, and don’t sit up ramrod
straight like you’ve spent 10 years in the marines. Lean
back. Chill. Act like you actually are the owner of wherever
you are…the bar, club, restaurant, mall, wherever (I always
do).
5. Do it again. Take another one of your female friends

“out”. Practice your acting. Rinse and repeat.
6. When you start dating using this system, practice

confidence and OI on every single one. Soon...it will start to
become automatic. The damnest thing will start to happen.
You’ll actually start to feel confident and less worried about
“what’s going to happen” or “getting it right” .
And then you know what?
Women will REALLY start to like you.
Chapter Six
Preparation
Your “two or three dates” system is going to look like this:
First date – Meet at a very fancy bar. Buy one drink for her
and one drink for yourself. Engage in lots of “kino”
(physical touching to arouse sexual desire, more on this
later) but no kissing or sexual activity. End the date at 90
minutes.
Second date – Attempt to get her to meet you at your place

for “movie night” or to “Play some Wii”. If she goes for
that, have sex, if possible. If she doesn’t go for meeting at
your place, meet at a different fancy bar. Again, buy her one
drink and one drink for yourself. Talk for a while. Engage
in kissing and/or sexual activity, and move on to sex if
possible.
Third date – “Movie night” at your home. Have sex.
The vast majority of women I’ve had sex with followed this
sequence, or something very close.
We’re going to go into detail into the why’s and what’s of

what I just described, but for now, you must plan this
sequence in advance. That means you must know exactly
where your “first date” location will be, your “second date”
location will be, etc. You want to have all the logistics
planned out and arranged in advance, so this process will
move smoothly. You also want backup plans in case you
come across hitches in your plans, which happen often.
Here’s exactly what you need to do before you start filling

your calendar with dates.
Establish Date Locations
You must establish three or four first and second date

locations. These should all be fancy bars, that are nice, not
trashy, not too “sports-bar” like, comfortable, and preferably
without loud music during the hours you’re going to be
there. The nicer the place is, the better. Having a date at a
nice bar will reflect directly upon you in her subconscious.
If you take a woman to a very nice bar, and spend $12 on a
drink for you and a drink for her, it will feel to her like
you’ve spent much, much more. Thus the beauty and
ambiance of the first and second “date bar” is very
important!
6. Use Mapquest, Google Maps, your friends, and/or

your own memory and experience and pick out the
fanciest bars in down.
7. Pick out your top three or four. Make sure they are in
clearly different locations. What I do is pick one for
each side of town, the north, south, east, and west side,
so no matter where she’s coming from, I have a place
for her to meet that relatively convenient for her (and
me).
8. Get their addresses and make sure you know exactly
where they are, and how to give directions to them.
9. Get on the web and get their hours of operation. This
is important. You’re going to need to have this
information!
10. Get all of this info (address, hours, etc) into one
central place (a Word document or something) so you
will have it at your fingertips when scheduling dates.
It’s important to have more than one location for these dates.
For the longest time I had one “first date” bar, and one time I
met a woman there, and the bar was temporarily closed due
to a liquor license suspension. Lucky for me, it was in a nice
part of town with lots of nice bars, so we just walked one
block down the street to a different one, but I could have

been really screwed. (I ended up having sex with her, by the
way.) Always have a back-up plan!
In addition to bars, you also need to establish two or three

non-alcoholic date locations, to cover the fact that you might
be dating women who are under age 21, or who don’t drink,
or who don’t like bars. This will happen. The best non-
alcoholic venue for dates is a very nice, plush, quiet coffee
shop. Not just any coffee shop! I said a NICE one. A
restaurant might also work, but he problem here is that she
will have the expectation of food, which damages our
“minimum amount of money spent” goal. Yes, if you’re a
really confident guy and are on a date with a woman who is
not a ball-buster, meeting at a restaurant and just getting
dessert or drinks is fine, but it’s still iffy. Stick with fancy
bars and nice, plush coffee shops if at all possible.
When done, you should, somewhere on your computer, have

three for four fancy bars, two or three fancy coffee shops,
with directions and hours of operation. It’s also a very good
idea to have the phone numbers of all these locations in your
cell phone.
Your Car
The following items must be in your car at all times:
1. Breath mints/breath strips/breath spray. Always

freshen your breath as you leave your car for any date.
2. Chapstick, or similar.
3. Condoms. Something a lot of guys don’t know: If you

live in a hot climate, you need to make sure to replace
these every few months. Heat can damage a condom’s
effectiveness. Also remember condoms have

expirations dates, so be aware!
4. Kleenex. Women always need this. Don’t ask me

why.
If you are actually going to pick a woman up for your date,

clean out your entire car. Yeah, you heard me. Your car
should be trash and clutter free. Even if you have to unload
all of your crap into a big box before you leave your house,
that’s fine, but when you pick her up, your car had better be
clean, inside and out. If your car is really dirty on the
outside, get it washed before the date.
I’m going to keep repeating this, because it’s critical:

Women are detail-oriented. The more crap out of place in
your car, in your home, or on you, the more points this is
against you, at least in the initial stages of dating, and you
want to put as much of the odds in your favor as possible.
Once you’ve have sex with her twice, she’s going to be
much more forgiving, but we’ll discuss that later.
Other Logistics
If you’re a dating beginner, it’s a really good idea to have

some key points to remember in your cell phone, to review
right before you leave your car for the date once you arrive.
Whatever key areas you need to work on, make some notes
in your cell phone and have them handy. This was a big
help to me way back when I was mastering all of this.
Also, I shouldn’t have to say this, but based on some emails

I’ve gotten from guys, apparently I must. Make damn sure
you have the woman’s phone number in your phone before
you head out.
You also need to pay attention to weather logistics. I live in

the USA, in the Pacific Northwest. Where I live, it can be
beautiful, clear skies, and sunny at 11:00am, and then cloudy
and pouring down rain at 4:00pm. Prepare and anticipate for
the weather in your area.
Scheduling
When is the best time to schedule a first date? In my

experience, the best time to do it is right after work
(meaning around 5:30pm for most people) on a weekday,
but not Fridays. (Note I’m talking about FIRST dates, not
dates with women you’re already dating.)
The reason for this is because women are busy as hell

nowadays. Between work, kids, friends, family, hobbies,
school, and yes, other men she might be dating, nailing a
woman down to a specific time is a nightmare.
The best time, I have found, to get a woman to commit to a

time, with the lowest chance of her flaking, is right after
work. There’s often too much stuff going on during the
weekend, and if you schedule it later in the evening, there
too much opportunity for things to “come up” in her life.
Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule and sometimes

you’ll have to be flexible.
Chapter Seven
Grooming And Physical Appearance
Before you get out there and getting laid, we’ve got to talk
about your looks.
One of the primary problems in dating is that people in both

genders try to demonstrate what they like, instead of
demonstrating what the other gender likes.
Men do this when they email women pictures of their

penises. Or when they obsess about their height. Why do
they do this? Because men are attracted to looks, therefore
they think women are REALLY attracted to looks also.
But women actually aren’t.
Women do this when they brag about how “sassy” they are,
how “independent” they are, or about their careers or college
degrees. Why do they do this? Because women are
attracted to intelligence, toughness and independence. So,
they think men are REALLY attracted to, and turned on by,
intelligence, toughness and independence also.
But men actually aren’t (as you and I already know).
To a man, a woman’s intelligence, toughness and

independence practically doesn’t matter if she’s amazingly
hot and really fun to be with.
To a woman, a man’s looks practically doesn’t matter if he

demonstrates confidence, masculinity, intelligence, OI,
humor, etc.
Now, to be fair, a woman’s intelligence, sassiness, or

independence might be nice (depending on the man and
what that man likes or is used to), but that’s not what creates
attraction in us men. And women do get turned on by hot-
looking guy…but it’s not the primary focus of what they’re
truly after, and it’s not what stirs their real attraction.
So, a man who frets about how he’s not “good looking
enough” is being just as silly as a woman who thinks “I’ll
tell him I have an MBA and then he’ll really think I’m a
catch!” (Yes, many of today’s women do this…silly isn’t
it?...but you’re being just as silly if you’re worried about
what she thinks of your big nose).
We’ve all seen it: the gorgeous, hot, young woman with the
guy who is old, or fat, or ugly, or short. “What does she see
in him?” people ask in bewilderment. It’s confidence, OI,
and lots of other things, but it isn’t looks!
Here’s one key to the looks thing for men: Women don’t
care about how a man looks as long as he’s well dressed and
well groomed.
As I’ve said, women are detail-oriented. Women’s brains

are far more advanced in terms of input then men’s are. The
reason women can be detail-oriented is that they see the
entire world all at the same time. Men can’t do that. We see
one thing, then another thing, then another.
How does this relate to your looks?
When you meet an attractive woman for the first time at a

social setting, and strike up a conversation with her, during
the first three to five seconds, what do you actually see and
process? You see and process her boobs, and you see and
process her hair. If you’re a very advanced, very
enlightened man, maybe you see her eyes too. Later, you
take in more, but in the first few seconds that’s about it.
What does she see in the first few seconds? She sees and
fully processes your eyes, your eyebrows, your hair, your
nose, your nose hairs, the pigmentation and color of your
skin, your facial hair, your five o’clock shadow, your lips,
your teeth, your chin, your double chin, your hands, the way
you move your hands, your eye contact, the hair on the back
of your neck, the little bits of chest hair sticking out of your
collar, your dirty fingernails, your watch, and your body
posture. And that’s not all. While doing this, she is also
seeing and processing everything you’re wearing: your
clothing, your shirt, your belt, your pants, your shoes, your
socks if they’re visible, your earring, your hat, your
necklace, and any rings on your fingers.
Yes, she really does all of this. Women are amazing. Now,
she still doesn’t care about your looks, like I said. But, if
she processes any red flags about your poor grooming or
poor dressing habits, she’s going to make negative
assumptions about the rest of you. And as I’ve said already,
you want the odds in your favor.
Grooming
Grooming is the easy part. It’s really just a checklist of

items you need to address on a regular basis. A lot of it are
things men never think about, but that woman look at.
1. Any hair on your face should be part of a

predefined look, not something that just happens
because you’re lazy or want to look “natural”. If
you want to be clean shaven, always shave cleanly.
If you want facial scruff, pay attention to it and
manage it. Don’t let it run wild. More often than
not, women do like facial hair on men, but if
you’ve got wild, curly hair coming out of your
sideburns (for example), this is not good.
2. If you have any retained facial hair (beard, goatee,

mustache, whatever) shave it DOWN. It should
clean and sleek. Not bushy. This isn’t the 1800’s.
3. Can’t believe I’m saying this, but shower daily. If
you had a sweaty day and are dating tonight,
shower again when before you leave.
4. Can’t believe I’m saying this either, but brush your
teeth and mouthwash at least every morning and
right before a date.
5. Floss your teeth right before leaving for a date.
6. Use soap all over your body when you shower
before a date or when you know you’re having sex
that evening. (Do not use soap every single time
you shower, however. It’s not good for your skin.)
7. Use deodorant or cologne or both. Now look, I
understand some men have worse B.O. than others.
Some men are blessed with very little B.O. (I am
one of them) and I do know some men who don’t
wear any deodorant and can get away with it. I still
always wear a little cologne on a date, and often
wear cologne in my day-to-day life, just to be on
the safe side.
8. Don’t overdo the cologne. Many men wear way
too much. One tiny, distant spray under each
armpit is all I use, and often even this I more than I
want. Always apply cologne one hour before you
actually see the woman.
9. How do you pick out cologne if you have no idea
what you’re doing? Take a woman you trust
shopping with you and have HER pick some out.
With cologne and clothing, when it doubt, have
HER pick it out.
10. Shave the back of your neck once a week. Women
notice.
11. If you’re over 30, address nose hairs and ear hair at
least once every other week.
12. If you have a unibrow, take care of it.
13. If you have very big or very scruffy eyebrows, trim

them. Comb them upwards; anything that goes
above the natural upper line of your eyebrow, trim
with a small pair of scissors.
14. Get a cool hairstyle. Think edgy. If you have no
idea what’s cool, whip through a current men’s
magazine like GQ, and pick a style you like, rip out
the page, show this to your stylist, and make it
happen. If you have a little more money, pay the
money and go to an actual salon (as opposed to the
$14 haircut place) and get a professional stylist’s
advice. You only need to do this once. Once
you’ve got the style down, then you can always go
back to cheap place and duplicate it (this is exactly
what I do).
15. If you are bald, have a big bald spot, or have very
thin hair, SHAVE YOUR ENTIRE HEAD. This
looks way better, both to men and women. Just do
it. If you’re nervous, force yourself to keep that
look for one month. If absolutely hate it, you can
always go back. But hey, think of all the time and
money you’ll save when you never have to wash or
style your hair ever again?
16. If you’ve got yellow teeth, or dark spots on your
teeth, address this, even if it costs you some money.
Women do look at, and judge men on, their teeth.
17. If you are at all concerned about the pasty
whiteness of your skin, get a tan. I don’t care if
you go outside or to a tanning salon or use self-
tanner. If you’re self-conscious about it, get it
fixed. (Full disclosure: I’m a really pasty white
guy, but I honestly don’t care, so I’m OK. I’m
talking about if you are pasty white and it bothers
you. She will feel that it bothers you. And I do
often go get a fake tan (Mystic Tan) when I feel I
need to.)
18. If your face has any serious problem that is quite

obvious, like big dark circles under your eyes,
crooked teeth, or whatever, address it. If your
problem costs money to fix, go see a specialist and
find out exactly how much it costs to fix, then set a
financial goal to earn this money and get it taken
care of. Not only will you look better, you will feel
better and have more confidence.
19. Clean your fingernails, daily if necessary.
20. Make an effort to keep all of your fingernails
approximately the same length all the time. This is
a tough one for us manly men, I know. But do your
best. (And don’t get manicures…they’re a waste of
time in my opinion.)
21. Shave off any hair that grows on the front of your
neck (if any), and any chest hair that pokes through
your collar.
22. Shave off any hair that grows on your shoulders or
upper arms (if any) at least every other week.
23. If you have anything more than peach fuzz on your
back, shave or wax your back once every four to six
weeks.
24. If you have “hobbit hair”, i.e. hair growing on the
backs of your hands, the top of your fingers, and/or
the top of your feet, shave it all off once a week so
the skin is smooth, especially right before a date.
25. If you have lots of bushy chest hair, buy the
adjustable clippers that hair stylists use, set it to a
two or three, and shave your chest hair down about
once every two to four weeks. You will be amazed
at how much better you look. I personally do not
have a lot of chest hair, but when I did this myself
just as an experiment, I was sold. It does look
better. Note I said shave your chest hair down, not
off. Surveys show, and my experience shows, that
the majority of women actually like chest hair, and
shaving chest hair off looks bad, feels weird to a
woman touching it, is itchy as hell, is

uncomfortable, and the effect only lasts a few days
until it looks weird again. Unless you’re a cut
bodybuilder, shave down, not off.
26. Some men have really stiff chest hair, like steel
wool. Use a normal hair conditioner on your chest
hair for a few weeks to soften it.
27. Everything I just said about chest hair applies
equally to, if you have it, excessive pubic hair,
excessive armpit hair, and/or unusually hairy arms.
Shave it down, but not off. (As an aside, I have had
more than one woman tell me stories about men
they’ve slept with who had shaved off all of their
pubic hair. In every case, the woman considered it
was a turn-off. As always, shave down. Not off.)
28. Some men, like me, have really dry feet that often
crack or get really flaky. Address this. The best
trick I know if is this: Right before bed, cover both
of your feet with a good lotion, put on some 100%
wool socks, then cover each foot with a clear
plastic bag, rubber-banding it at the top (on your
leg right above the foot). When you wake up the
next morning you’re going to wonder who’s
beautiful feet those belong to. This magical effect
only lasts about three days, so repeat as necessary.
If you are having sex with any women who are
really into feet (some women are), you may have to
do this more often.
Clothing
This is one area I fought for a very long time. When I need
to dress for business (as in suits and ties), I know exactly
what to wear and what not to wear, and I always look great.
But when it comes to dressing casually, for a long time I
looked like a dork from 1980’s. I mean, if I dress the way I
really want to dress, I look terrible. I do everything wrong.
Of course, I think I look great. Everyone else thinks I’m

trying to look like Mickey Rourke from 1986.
I bring all of this up because a lot of men do exactly that.

They have a certain style of clothing that they really like,
really feel comfortable in, and looks terrible to everyone
else. Some guys like to look like cowboys. Some guys like
to look gay or metrosexual. Some guys like the dirty grunge
look from the early 90’s. Some guys dress look like emos or
nerds or hippies or stoners. Some guys just like old ripped
jeans and bland white T-shirts. None of these looks are
going to appeal to a broad range of women, and you’re
going to have to snap it up, at least a little bit, when you’re
going out. The good news is you can always look like one
of the Village People on your days off.
Dressing right really comes down to two things: the right

colors for your face, and the right styles for the time.
Regarding colors, women have triple the amount of cones in

their eyes for perceiving color then men do Find a feminine
woman you trust, who is well under age 40, and have her
take you clothes shopping. Even better, take more than one.
While there, have her put different solid-color shirts up to
your face and get her opinions about what colors she thinks
work for you. This is one of the very few times I will ever
recommend you take a woman’s advice about something
dating-related.
Even better, if you can afford it, spend about $100, and go
have a consultation with an image consultant. They’re in
every major city. Yes, I know it sounds gay, but it will be
one of the best $100 you’ve ever spent. These people will
tell you exactly what colors to wear and what not to wear,
based on your skin tone, hair color, eye color, body shape,
and facial features. Take their advice, and you will be
shocked at how much better you look, and how more often
people (especially women) will complement your

appearance.
My favorite color is black. I wore pretty much nothing but

black, white, and grey from puberty all the way to about age
30 (as of this writing, I’m 37). Then I went to an image
consultant to improve my appearance for my public
speaking. They made it clear to me that because of my very
white skin, very dark hair and very blue eyes, black and
white made me look terrible. They told me specifically what
colors to wear and what not to wear. And boy, did I hate
these people for taking away my beloved black!
But, dammit, they were right. I reluctantly did exactly what

they said and started wearing colors that complemented me,
and I looked like a different person. I couldn’t believe it.
Women I didn’t know came up to me in stores to
complement me. I couldn’t believe the huge difference
something as silly as colors made. But it did. That was
years ago and now I have completely mastered my “set” of
colors that look best on me.
(But I still sneak some black in every once and a while.)
That’s colors, now lets talk about styles. Robert Kyosaki, of

Rich Dad, Poor Dad fame, made a great statement once that
really hit home with me. He said in terms of his appearance,
he doesn’t ever want to be stuck in time. He wants to move
with time. Whatever he’s wearing in public should be the
look and the style of the current time. The current time is, as
of this writing, 2010, which means you should wear what’s
cool for the late 2000’s. You should wear current styles. If
you wear styles that are clearly 90’s, or 80’s or, god forbid,
70’s, most women are going to shut you down, fast.
Just like colors, I fought styles. First I fought them with my

business attire, then I fought them several years later with
my causal attire. I am stuck in the 1980’s, so when I wore

suits, I only wore double-breasted suits with wide lapels.
Those were hot stuff in the 80’s and early 90’s. Over time, I
grudgingly moved to single-breasted suits with narrow
lapels. That’s what’s hot now. And you know what? It
doesn’t look too bad. It grew on me. I did the same thing
when I moved from wild, funky looking ties (hot in the 90’s)
to more pattern-based ties (hot now).
Casually, I like to wear black, tapered-ankle jeans with my

shirt tucked in. Yep, that was the cool stuff back in 1987
when I was in high school. Nowadays, it looks horrible. So
I don’t wear it. Instead, I leave my shirt untucked and wear
the dark blue “boot-cut” jeans that I was taught to hate in the
1980’s (they remind me of bell-bottoms). And it’s grown on
me. Bottom line, when I go out, women think I look good
and that I know what I’m doing. That that’s the look I want
to convey
I’m not going to sit here and give you a class on current
styles. I’m not an expert on that anyway. Just have two,
three, or four different women in their 20’s or 30’s take
some time and have them give you a little class. They’ll be
happy to do it (Ask some women to help you with clothing
and style? You’ll make their day!) Take it on faith and do
what they say.
Even if you end up with just one or two “date outfits”, that’s
good enough.
Showing up to a first date well-groomed, with a shirt, pants,

and shoes that are cool, in modern styles, and color
coordinated with your skin and your hair instantly scores big
points with a woman. Believe me, one of the most common
complaints I’ve heard from women about other men is that
men don’t know how to dress. You set yourself apart
immediately if you follow the advice in this chapter.
Chapter Eight
The Different Types Of Women
There are several different types of women out there, and
women in different age groups date differently. Let’s
address age first.
It’s important to understand there is a very clear difference

between women over the age of 33, and under the age of 33.
In the last several years or so, I’ve dated, in some capacity,
well over 100 women, of all ages (the youngest were age 18
and the oldest were in their late 40’s), and what I’m about to
explain is a reality that I’ve seen happen over and over
again.
In a woman's mind, sex occurs in one of three environments:

in a "casual" environment, a "dating but not serious yet"
environment, or in a "relationship" environment.
Women under the age of 33 and under are comfortable with

sex in all three environments. Of course, these younger
women will still have “rules” in their heads about men,
dating, relationships, and sex.
Women over age 33 are quite different. They love sex in

casual environments (thus the term "cougar") and love sex in
relationships, but are actually uncomfortable with sex when
in a "dating but not serious yet" environment.
There’s a magical switch that activates in a woman’s brain

around age 33 or 34 that says “I’ve had my fun. I’m a lady
now. I can’t have sex with a guy taking me out on dates
unless he acts like a gentleman and (virtually) promises to be
my boyfriend”. Of course, this exact same woman has no
problem having meaningless sex with the mailroom boy at
the office, who’s NEVER taken her out on a date or spent
one dime on her. Nor does she have a problem with having
meaningless sex with her ex-boyfriend who hasn’t actually
taken her out on a date in over a year.
And if you challenge her on how unfair or illogical this all

is, she’ll just respond with “Well, that’s different, he and I
aren’t dating.” And in her mind, it makes perfect sense.
Yes, it’s grossly unfair. No, it doesn’t make any sense in

reality. But this is how most women over 33 think. Are
there exceptions to this rule? Of course there are, but those
women are exactly that, exceptions.
What does this all mean to YOU?
• If you’re the type of guy who’s just out for sex and
nothing else, dating women over 33 is going to be more
difficult. (Yes, you could lie to her about your intentions,
but remember, one of our objectives is to have sex
without having to lie.) You can still get laid with women
this age, but you’re going to have to put in more numbers
and be more patient. The best women to date over 33 are
women you already know, like from work or your social
circle. Meeting women over 33 cold and trying to have
sex with them in three dates or less is doable, but a tough
sell.
• If you’re the type of guy who prefers WD’s, avoid

women who are over 33 unless they’re unusually
desirable.
• If your goal is an immediate LTR, this “over 33” dynamic

is much less important to you. Date the over 33 crowd or
not, it’s up to you.
That covers age. Now, here are the different types of

women you’re going to run into, and what to do with them.
The Flake From Hell
All women are flakey to some degree, but in my experience,

about 20% - 25% of single women literally lack the ability to
schedule and keep an appointment in their personal life on a
regular basis. They just can’t do it. They want to, they
mean to, but they can’t. This kind of woman is the Flake
From Hell, or FFH. What shocked me as I learned more
about them is that they are not stereotypical. FFH’s are not
necessarily younger or dumber. Many FFH’s are well over
35 or 40 years old. Some FFH’s are upper-level executives
at prestigious corporations, making six-figure incomes.
Many FFH’s are extraordinarily intelligent women with
genius level I.Q.’s. Some FFH’s are single mothers, but
many aren’t.
One thing is for sure, you cannot look at a woman and talk
to her for a few minutes and assume that because she’s
smarter or older or wealthier or more organized or more
articulate, that she isn’t a FFH. She very well could be!
Flaking is a normal part of dating women, and we’re going

to address it in detail a little later, but an FFH is a woman
who flakes, reschedules, cancels, or is very late, all the time
as a pattern of behavior. Often, these are the kind of women
who bounce checks, all the time. Who run out of gas on the
freeway, all the time. Who are late for their flights, all the
time.
FFH’s will make you go grey. I have a “two-strikes you’re

out” policy. If a woman reschedules a set appointment with
me more than twice in less than two weeks, she’s gone. I
suggest you adopt a similar policy. If you’re putting in the
numbers, this shouldn’t be a big problem for you.
The SVSRN
Some women, because of their religious beliefs, or because

they’ve been burned so many times, or because they have
just gotten out of a long-term relationship or marriage, or
because they think they’re more amazing than Wonder
Woman, will demand a guy get “serious” right up front.
They want exclusivity by literally second or third date. I call
these women SVSRN’s. Which stands for Something Very
Serious Right Now.
They want serious commitment, not later, not even very

soon, but right now.
Most SVSRN’s are over 33 years old, but some aren’t. They
tend to be bitter and/or high-maintenance. These are women
who are pissed off they haven’t found their soul mate yet.
They hate dating. They think it’s lame they even have to
keep dating. They don’t want to “go on dates” or “date a
few guys”. No, they are so wonderful, they expect men to
commit by date number two or three. If he doesn’t, he’s not
a “gentleman”. He’s probably a “player”.
The good thing about SVSRN’s is that unlike FFH’s, you

can identify them easily, right on the first date. Hell, they
practicality advertise it. You should have a battle plan for
when you run into these woman.
If your goal is an LTR, and she’s an amazing woman, you

could consider dating her. But if your goal is FB’s or WD’s,
you should politely drop this woman like a hot potato. Of
course, you could just lie to this woman and keep dating her,
because she will have sex with you on the third date like all
other women will, but as I’ve said, lying is not something I
recommend. It creates too much drama. Lying to women to
get them into bed is something pussies do.
The Busy As Hell
A BAH (Busy As Hell) is a woman with a 24/7 jam-packed

schedule, all the time. She works full time, has 2 kids, goes
to college at night, has softball on the weekends, yoga every
day, and has 14 best friends. When dating a BAH, you’re
lucky to see her once a week, if that.
BAH’s are not flakes. They are (usually) organized and on

top of things. Many of them are LTR material. The only
trouble with the BAH is getting your “two or three dates to
sex” is going to take a while, and as we’ll discuss later, the
more time that passes between each date, the lower your
odds are of getting to sex.
If an LTR is your goal, there is nothing really wrong with

dating a BAH, as long as you understand her schedule is
going to be something you’re going to have to deal with. (If
things start getting serious, likely she’ll loosen her schedule
for you.)
If your goal is WD’s or FB’s, BAH’s, once you have sex

with them, are fantastic. They’re very fun and low-
maintenance, and they can never complain about your
schedule, since theirs is so terrible.
The Gold-Digger
Pretty self-explanatory. I probably don’t need to describe

what a Gold-Digger is…it’s a woman who expects lots of
money to be spent on her, all the time. I’m a higher income
guy, so I battled Gold-Diggers quite a bit was I was
mastering this system. Here are some gold-digger
symptoms:
1. She always needs to go out somewhere that costs

money. She get’s upset if you want to just have cozy
evening at home (even if she likes having sex with

you).
2. When you try to have sex with her the first time, she
complains you haven’t been “romantic enough yet”.
This is woman-language for “you haven’t spent
enough money on me yet”.
3. Whenever you take her out, she orders lots of food and
lots of drinks, and rarely eats it all. Even if you go to a
bar for drinks, she always ends up ordering several
plates of food.
4. She’s always dressed in very expensive clothing and
jewelry. (Not all women who dress this way are Gold-
Diggers of course, but it’s often an indicator.)
The good news about gold-diggers is often, they are quite

honest and up-front about what they are. I’ve had women
tell me on first dates, straight out, “I’m an expensive gal” or
“Any man who wants me is going to TREAT ME”.
95% of the time, Gold-Diggers are not worth it. And unless
you really know what you’re doing, it’s very hard to have
sex with a Gold-Digger under our “two to three dates”
system, since one of our objectives is to spend the least
amount of money possible.
Is it possible to date a Gold-Digger, have sex with her, and

not spend a lot of money? Sure. I’ve done it once or twice.
But it’s an advanced level of dating, and way beyond the
scope of this book. I don’t recommend it unless you’re very
confident and very dating experienced.
The Freak
She smokes pot every day. She snorts coke and/or does acid
several times a week. She often gets into fistfights with
other women. She’s never in bed before 3am. Sex with her
is amazing…she loves the kinky stuff. She’s horny as hell
and loves to have sex all the time (and not just with you, but
with four other guys too). Things like a job, birth control,
money, and time management are alien concepts to her. But
damn, is she fun!
She’s a Freak. The good news is that they are very easy to
get to sex (be sure to wear a condom). The bad news is they
will make your life a living hell forever after. Freaks are
only good for FB’s, and even then you’d better be on your
toes. Like Gold-Diggers, Freaks should only be in your life
if you’re a strong guy who really knows what he’s doing and
are going into the situation with both eyes open. Other than
that, you should probably stay away unless you’re only after
ONS’s. You’ve been warned.
The “Good” Types
There are other types of women, the types that are “good”,
and are good for you to have sex with, date, and have
relationships with. The Good Girl, the Cool Chick, the
Cougar…but I don’t really need to get into detail about any
of these. What’s more important is to watch out for the
unusual or problematic types I outlined above. Generally
speaking, if a woman isn’t a FFH, SVSRN, BAH, Gold-
Digger, or Freak, she’s probably good to go for an LTR,
WD, or FB.
Much Younger Women
If you’re an older guy, say over age 30, and are going after
women as young as 18 or 21, this introduces another set of
challenges and opportunities. This is such a big topic I’ve
devoted and entire ebook to it, How To Attract And Date
Younger Women. If you’re over 30, I highly recommend
you check it out.
Chapter Nine
Comfort Bombardment
Sometimes, you’ll be going out on a first date with a woman
you already know. However, if you’re putting in the
numbers (and you’d better be!), very soon your pool of
available women is going to run out, and you’re going to
start having first dates with women you don’t know. This
can range from a woman you’ve met causally once or twice
at a party or at the bookstore, to a woman you’ve never met
in person, in the case of meeting a woman online or via (God
forbid) a blind date.
If you already know the woman, you’re pretty much good to

go in terms of making her comfortable in your presence.
But if you don’t know her yet, you have one more phase
before you actually meet up with her on the first date.
You must make her comfortable with you before she

actually meets up with you on the first date. You must make
her feel that she already knows you. This is done by loading
on piles of comfort on top of her little head, before the first
date occurs. I call this process Comfort Bombardment. (If
you’ve already read my online dating book, How To Fill
Your Calendar With Dates Using Online Dating, most of
this chapter is repeat, so feel free to skip to the next chapter.)
If you do this correctly, by the time you meet her in real life,
intimacy just seems like the “natural next step” for her.
Here’s exactly what you do:
3. Add them to your MySpace/Facebook. If you are on

MySpace or Facebook, once the date is scheduled,
immediately hop over to MySpace (if she’s under 28 or
so) or Facebook (if she’s over 28 or so), or both, search
for her, find her, and send her a friend request. If you
can’t find her, go ahead and ask her via a text, phone, IM,
or email, “Hey…are you on MySpace?” She’ll tell you.
Women love adding new friends to their
MySpace/Facebook pages.
Fire off that friend request and make sure she accepts it.
Now you’re no longer that strange guy from the club,
bookstore, or internet she’s never met! Now you’re
“friends”!
Often, women will start communicating with you via

MySpace/Facebook once you’re friends. This is GREAT!
Encourage this. This makes her more comfortable with
you automatically.
4. Send them to your web site. Do you have your own

web site? For your business, or hobby, or whatever? If
you do, send them there also. If the web site displays you
as a desirable, or fun, or successful guy, and has photos of
you, this is even better.
My primary source of income is as a corporate consultant,

so I have a web site that sells my consulting services. It
has a few photos of me and sells me from a business
standpoint. As a test, I started sending women I was
interested in to my web site prior to the first date. I was
shocked at how well it worked to attract women, even
women who were far younger than me who I thought
would have no interest in the business nature of the web
site.
This worked because my web site is what’s known as a

“DHV” or Demonstration of Higher Value. It made me
look valuable as a man, and thus desirable. So if you
have a web site, use it! Of course, if your web site is
scary, or odd, or pornographic, or doesn’t portray you

well, then skip it.
What if you don’t have a web site? Hell, make one.

Even if it’s just a blog or a resume site. Can’t hurt.
4. Ensure you have at least one good conversation with

her pre-date. At some point between when you schedule
the first date and when you actually have the first date,
you must have a good, fun conversation with her. If you
already had the conversation with her when you first met
her, that’s fine. But if you didn’t, you need to have one
via the telephone or internet IM, whichever you’re more
comfortable with. The best time to do this is the halfway
mark to the first date (if it’s in six days, try to do this on
the third day).
There are two ways to do this that I know work. The first
option, and the better option if you have a good voice, is a
phone call. Call her up when you know she’s available
(using texting if you need to), and talk to her for 30 to 45
minutes. Do not have some huge, long conversation that
goes on and on for hours into the evening. Always have a
“bail excuse” ready to go. It could even be “Hey, my
mom is calling, I need to go, but I’ll see you on
Wednesday!”.
The longer you talk, the more likely you are to screw
things up. But talking for a while DOES increase the
chances of the first date “going somewhere”. So talk, but
keep the conversation to 30-45 minutes.
The second option is a good conversation over IM. Many

guys prefer this because the phone is too scary. However,
and this is a BIG “however”, it is actually easier to screw
things up in an IM conversation than in a phone
conversation. The reason is the women are less inhibited
over IM than over talking on the phone, and will be more

aggressive, and will pin you down to harder
questions…questions you may answer incorrectly.
So as you can see, there are pros and cons to both IM and
the telephone, but you should do ONE of these two things
before you actually meet up. Even if she resists the
conversation because she “busy”, push for it as best you
can. I can tell you for a fact, it makes a big difference in
the end.
Before you actually talk or IM with her, be sure to review

the next chapter (chapter 10) first, for what to say and not
to say.
5. Maintain contact through texting or email if she seems

comfortable with those mediums. By now you should
have at least her cell phone number, if not her actual
email address also, and likely she’s on your Facebook or
MySpace pages. Use these mediums to keep in contact
with her. Very soon, she will (likely) start to contact you
via email, texting, or MySpace/Facebook. This gives you
a clue as to how she likes to communicate, though texting
does work the best.
Follow her lead and respond to her this way. Do NOT

have big, long conversations this way, and do NOT be
contacting her every day. You’re busy guy. Be
unavailable and aloof. The point here is to keep the lines
of communication open, not to communicate excessively.
Your one good 30-45 minute conversation is a both a
minimum and a maximum, pre-date. You don’t want
more than one conversation like this until you meet up
with her.
5. 24 to 48 hours prior to the first date, text her or call

her and confirm it. As we’ve already discussed, women
are flakey. You have GOT to circumvent this. 24 to 48

hours before the date, be SURE to call or text her and
confirm. It can be as simple as, “Hey you! We still good
for Wednesday at 5pm?”
Chapter Ten
The First Date
This is the longest chapter in this book, probably the most
important chapter in this book, and the chapter with the most
techniques. Make sure you read and re-read this chapter
several times before your next first date, so that you really
internalize it’s contents.
Alright! Today’s the day! You’ve scheduled the first date at

a fancy bar, right after work on a weekday. You’re well-
groomed and dressed in modern styles and colors that
compliment you. You’ve got confidence and OI wired into
your system as best you can, and your speech and
movements reflect that. If you’re picking her up, your car is
clean. She’s now on your MySpace/Facebook page and
you’ve had at least one good conversation with her so she’s
comfortable with you. Just yesterday you confirmed the
date with her and she’s still on.
It’s game time.
First of all, relax. If you’re nervous or uptight, this will

work against you. I always schedule at least 10 first dates at
a time…do that, and you won’t care what she thinks. You
want confidence and OI at all times. As an easy exercise,
remember “CIFS”. CIFS is what I used to help me
remember all of this stuff when I first started mastering this
system.
CIFS stands for
C = Confident
I = “I don’t care.” This is your OI.
F = Funny
S = Sexually Aggressive
We’ll describe Funny and Sexually Aggressive (kino) in a

minute, but if you’ve got all four of those things down in
your brain, the rest is easy.
The four main things to keep in mind is on this date:
1. You are going to spend less than $15. Which means

ordering one drink for her and one drink for you. No
food.
2. You are going to end this date at 90 minutes.
3. You are not going to have sex on this date.
4. You are not going to kiss this woman on this date.

(But you are going to touch her a lot, we’ll get to that
in a minute).
I’ll explain each.
You’re going to order 2 drinks, and that’s it. What if she

orders another drink after she finishes the first one? This
usually doesn’t happen, because most women don’t want to
seem like they drink more than you do. But if it does
happen, fine, let her order another drink.
What if she (gasp!) orders food while at the bar with you?
This is very rare (women don’t want to look like pigs), but it
does occasionally happen. It’s a strange thing. Women
don’t respect men who spend lots of money on them, but
women also will not have sex with men they perceive as
“cheap”. It’s a very careful dance. So again, if she orders
food, go ahead and let order. If she asks you if you’re

hungry, tell her you just ate. If she still orders, let her do so.
One thing I have found, is often, if a woman is comfortable

enough to order food with you, it’s actually a very good
sign. The odds of me having sex with a woman go up when
she orders food. I don’t necessarily want her to order food,
but when it happens on a first date, I chalk it up to the
universe and let slide.
You’re going to terminate this date at 90 minutes or so.

Sometimes I even set my alarm in my cell phone to beep at
90 minutes to remind me. Why are we doing this? The
majority of women will not have sex with you on the first
date, remember? So fine, we’re going to make the first date
as short as possible.
Another reason for this is simple time management. You are

(hopefully) going to have LOTS of first dates. I’ve had
weeks where I’ve had seven or eight first dates! If these
dates are any longer than about 90 minutes, your schedule is
going to be unworkable.
All you need to do on a first date is establish comfort and

attraction, and then get the hell out of there so you can meet
up with the next woman. 90 minutes is all you need.
Yet another reason for the 90 minute limit is that there’s a

very good chance the woman won’t like you, or won’t like
you enough to have sex with you. If this is the case, you’ve
only wasted 90 minutes of your life. Ever had a big, long,
extravagant first date only to get a blow-off afterwards?
Remember how pissed off you were? After all that trouble?
With the 90 minute rule, you’ll never have this problem
again.
You’re not having sex with her, for reasons we’ve already
talked about. So get the “I need to sleep with her” stuff out
of your head. Don’t worry about it. Yet.
Lastly, let’s talk about kissing. As long as you’re giving her

lots of kino (touching), kissing a woman on your first 90
minute date actually reduces the odds of having sex with her
later. I’ve gone on over 100 first dates in the last few years,
and I can tell you for a fact this is true.
There are many reasons for this. One is often women get a
form of buyer’s remorse when they go home and say “Oh
my God! I just kissed I guy I barely know!” And now she
thinks she’s a “slut”, and doesn’t answers your calls
anymore.
The other reason is that if you’re engaging in a lot of kino,

but you don’t kiss her, you create sexual tension, and this is
what really, really turns women on. Kissing her actually
kills some of the tension, to a degree. You want her tension
levels very high for when you meet her for the second date.
Are there exceptions to this? Sure. Sometimes the sexual

fire between the two of you will be so high, a kiss might be
the right thing to do, but this is unusual. Also, never, ever
kiss a woman “goodnight” at the end of a date. This is
1950’s chode behavior, and will either turn her off or
activate her “make him wait for sex” buttons.
Here now is exactly what to do (and not to do) on the first

date:
1. Never compliment her appearance. Even if she

asks. Ready for a hard and fast rule? Never, ever
compliment a woman’s appearance until you’ve had
sex with her twice. (Once you’ve had sex with a
woman twice, she’s somewhat locked-in to you and
you can start relaxing a little bit.) Other than that,

telling a woman she looks good is DEATH. It will kill
her attraction for you. The more attractive she is, the
more this is true. So many men make this mistake and
I just want to kick these guys. Even if she says
something like “How do I look?”, give her a dodge
answer like “Hm, ask me later”. Never compliment a
woman’s appearance, in any way, on a first date! If
you really want to compliment her, read below
regarding making observations about her.
2. Shut up and let her do the talking. She should do

85% of the talking on the date. Women get
comfortable with you by talking, so you want her to do
it a lot. Also, the more you talk, the higher the odds of
you saying something that will disqualify you. The
more she talks, the higher your odds of sleeping with
her later are. I have been shocked at how little a
woman knows about me once we actually have sex,
since she’s been doing so much talking and I’ve been
doing so little.
3. Avoid saying anything unless it’s a quick DHV or a

question. This goes along with having her doing the
talking. When you do talk, it should be a question to
get her to do some more talking. If not that, it should
be a DHV, a Demonstration of Higher Value. It
should be casually and indirectly conveyed that you
are a unique guy with lots to offer a woman. But even
this should be quick. Then redirect back to her, and
keep her talking.
4. Avoid “job interview” questions, hers or yours.

This is another dumb thing men get sucked into on a
first date. “Job interview” questions are things like
“What do you do?”, “What do you like to do for fun?”,
“How many brothers do you have?”, and so on. These
kinds of questions are BORING, and will kill her

attraction. Do NOT ask these kinds of questions, and
if she asks these kinds of questions, steer the
conversation away from them to more exciting topics
(travel, romance, fashion, sex, movies, her hopes and
dreams, etc.) If you must ask some, spread them out
over the entire conversation; don’t rapid-fire them.
5. Don’t lie. Lying to women to get them into bed is

something pussies do. Lying will also create drama in
your life when she finds out you were lying (and she
will).
6. Never discuss any of your past relationships, even if

asked. What is the single biggest complaint I’ve
heard about men on first dates from women? “All he
talked about was his ex the whole time.” Never, ever,
ever talk about any of your ex’s on a first date. Not
your ex-wife, ex-girlfriend, whatever. Even if she
directly asks you about it, give her a quick neutral
answer, slightly change the topic, and then redirect
back to her. Now, it is acceptable, actually ideal, for
her to talk about her ex’s. We’ll get more into that in
a minute. But NOT YOU.
7. Make sure she laughs at least once every two

minutes or so. The “F” in CIFS is Funny. You
should be making her laugh, a lot. If several minutes
go by during the date and she hasn’t laughed, consider
yourself in a danger zone. Make her laugh. Be funny.
If you are not a naturally funny guy, I suggest you
purchase some books on humor and study them.
Women love men who make them truly laugh.
8. Relax and lean BACK. As we talked about back in

chapter five, your body language is critical. It should
convey that you’re confident and relaxed, and don’t
care…perhaps even a little bored. Whenever I’m on a

first date, my arms are behind my head, and I’m
leaned back and relaxed, like I own the place. You
should not be leaning forward, totally interested in her;
that conveys neediness (or if you do lean forward, just
do it for a minute or two, then lean back again), and
you should also not be sitting ramrod straight; that
conveys nervousness and stiffness.
9. Don’t worry about how the date will end up. Back
to OI again. Remember, you don’t care if you ever see
this woman ever again. When you really get this in
your system, you will become wildly attractive to
women.
10. Maintain good eye contact. If you’ve got

confidence and OI down, you’ll be doing this already.
Make sure you look her in the eye. Don’t glare at her,
and don’t have eyes that are darting all around the
room. Also, never, ever look at her tits! This will be a
strike against you, even if she wants you to look.
Sometimes, when you’re with a woman who’s
showing of her huge cleavage, this can be tough.
Maintain self control and don’t look…and likely by
the very next date, those tits will be yours.
11. Smile. Attractive, confident alpha males smile.

They don’t try to act “cool”. They’re relaxed and
having fun.
12. Have two DHV-filled fun stories memorized

and ready to tell. Yes, you still want her to do most
of the talking, but when you talk, have at least two
funny stories that display you in a good light ready to
tell her. The more DHV’s in these stories, the better.
This is extra-important if you are on a date with a
woman who is really shy or is not a talker, and you

will occasionally run into those.
13. Use massive amounts of kino. “Kino” means

touching, both sensual and non-sensual. You’re not
going to kiss her, but you need to touch her, a lot.
Touch her often. Ideally, you and her should both be
smiling or laughing as you touch her. Start by
touching her hands and arms. Then touch the sides of
her thighs (non-sexually). Then try to get the point
where you’re touching her hair or her face. The more
confident you are, the easier this is. I’m at the point
where on a first date, I’m touching a woman on her
hands, shoulders, arms, legs, back, hair, and face, as
well as touching her jewelry, like her necklace. You
need to get to the point where you are completely
comfortable doing this. Kino is very, very powerful
and really ramps up her sexual tension. You want to
be sure to start kinoing her almost from the very
beginning of the date, within 10 to 15 minutes, and
then ramp up the kino throughout. Kino is not
something you just dump on her in the last five
minutes. Also, there will be times that this level of
touch is impractical, because of a table between the
two of you, which means you always want to sit right
next to her, or at an angle from her, not directly across
from her, if at all possible.
14. Get her talking about sex. Most men have no

idea about this, but most women get almost as much
mental turn-on from talking about sex as they do from
actually having sex. You must get a woman talking
about sex during your first date. How far you can take
this is up to the woman, but you must get the ball
rolling. Here’s exactly how to get a woman talking
about sex:
A. Establish rapport, talk for a while, and get her

comfortable with you. You don’t want to be
talking about sex right off the bat.
B. Ask her the magic question: “Have you been dating

a lot or a little lately?
C. She will usually roll right into this. Keep asking

her questions based off her answers.
D. She will often start taking to her about her last

failed relationship(s). Talk about it, but only briefly
(you don’t want her in a horrible state, complaining
about her ex). If she instead talks about other men
she’s dated, or distant relationships that don’t
bother her any more, this is fine.
E. Segue the topic from “her past relationship(s)” to

“men/women relations”.
F. Segue the topic from “men/women relations” to

sex.
G. Get as sexually explicit and detailed and emotional

as you can. Test the waters as you go and follow
her lead at this point. As I said, most women love
talking about sex and will get pretty explicit pretty
damn fast. Others are more shy about it, and this is
fine...follow her lead once you get to this point;
don’t freak her out if she’s more timid on this topic.
Yes, this process is art as much as it is science. If

you’ve never done anything like this before, it’s good
to do this in an IM or phone conversation first, then
tackle it in real life. But you must learn how to do this
comfortably. It’s critical to set the stage as a sexual
man (I said sexual man, not a horny man) who is

comfortable talking about sex.
15. If she’s really beautiful, neg her. A “neg” is a

light, silly, fun insult, or a back-handed compliment.
Examples would be “You have a crusty eye” or “Eh,
your hair looks OK, I guess” or “Hey, I like woman
with a really big ass!”. You get the idea. There are
various dating and pickup books that recommend
negging a woman often as you “pick her up”.
However, when on a date during the dating game, negs
are only needed if the woman sitting across from you
is really, really beautiful or thinks she’s really, really
beautiful (you know the type). By not complimenting
her appearance, and throwing in a few light negs here
and there, you show her that you are not effected or
wowed by her beauty. This confuses the hell out her
(because all the other men in her life are constantly
slobbering all over her) and will attract her to you.
However, if she’s not super-gorgeous and not arrogant
about her looks, negging isn’t important and there’s
really no need for it in my opinion (but still don’t
compliment her appearance…that’s an absolute).
16. Arrive five minutes after she does. There is an

interesting mental dynamic that makes no logical
sense, but is real nonetheless. If you arrive to the date
after her, she will respect you more than if she arrives
and you’re already there, sitting around waiting for
her. There are all kinds of psychological reasons
behind this but they’re irrelevant. The flip side of this
is that it’s rude to be late. So here’s what you do: If
the date is for 6pm, arrive at between 6:05pm and
6:10pm. If she’s still not there, send her a text saying
you’re going to be “a few minutes late”, leave the bar
and go somewhere a block away (go shopping for a
few minutes or something). When she arrives, she will
text you that she’s there, then come back and make
your entrance. I’ve just described the worst-case
scenario; most women will text you in advance and tell
you they are running a few minutes late; just use this
as your queue as to when to arrive.
17. Subcommunicate that you “date a lot”.

Without actually telling her, you want to convey, via
answers to her questions, that you date a lot, and have
dated a lot, and have options when it comes to women.
Talk about the fact that you’re “downtown” often and
that you have “busy weekends”. If she asks if you’ve
been dating a lot lately answer yes, and then smile, but
don’t go into detail. If she asks something like
“How’s the dating been going?”, answer “Great! It’s
been a LOT of fun!”, but don’t get into any specifics.
You get the idea. This implication and underling
subcommunication is doubly important if your
objective is multiple WD’s and/or FB’s. However,
you still want to do this, at least a little, if your goal is
an LTR. Women like men who they know other
women like.
18. Establish the 90 minute time constraint up-

front. If you haven’t yet established with her the 90
minute time frame, do so at the very beginning. Have
an excuse. Just say something like “Hey, just so you
know,” <look at watch> “I need to meet a friend at
8:30pm to help him move a TV, but looks like we’ve
got a good hour and a half here.” When 90 minutes is
up, walk her out of the place and make your escape.
First dates should be over as quickly as possible!
19. Pay the bill, but do it correctly. When I was

first developing this system, I was on a first date with
a woman I was really hitting it off with. It was very
clear, through her body language, voice inflections,
and what she was saying. that she was very interested
in me. I liked her too, so I felt good. When the bill
came, the woman pulled out her purse, pulled out her
wallet, and opened it. I thought “Cool, she wants to
pay for herself! Man, what a cool chick!” So we each
paid for half the bill. After the date, she sent me a
furious text saying how horrible it was that I “expected
a woman to pay for half on a first date!” and how that
was an instant deal-breaker for her. Remember, she
pulled out her purse and her wallet with no prompting
from me. Yikes. I have a strict “no woman-drama”
rule, so I never contacted her again.
A little while after that I was on another first date with

a different woman, and the exact same thing happened.
She pulled out her wallet to pay, without any
prompting from me. Remembering what happened
last time, I stopped her and I insisted on paying. When
she said she wanted to pay, I still told her I would pay
and that it really was no trouble. The entire bill was
only about nine dollars anyway. This woman then
proceed to scream at me, right there in the bar, about
how horrible it was that I was demeaning her income.
“What? You think I can’t even afford my own damn
drink?!?”
I then concluded that all women are insane.
Seriously, in the modern era where women are very

confused about all of this, here’s what you do to avoid
this ridiculousness: When the bill comes, pull out
your wallet, and pay it. Even if she pulls out her
wallet or purse, ignore that gesture and still pay it. If
she actually stops you, or says she wants to pay, hold
your wallet out in your hand so she can clearly see it,
and in your best nicey-nice voice, say “If you’d like to
pay, I’m cool with it, but I’d be happy to pay the bill.”
Usually, she will get the point and immediately either

let you pay, or whip out her own cash or credit card to
pay herself. If instead she gives you some kind of
ambivalent statement or expression, snatch up the bill
and pay it with no further discussion. I’ve used this
exact technique scores of times and never had a single
argument. It works.
However, as I said way back in chapter one, a good

25% of my dates don’t cost me any money at all, and
you should set a goal to get to the point where a good
portion of your first dates don’t cost you ANY money.
Then this entire issue is moot.
20. Speak slowly and clearly, and use your

deepest voice.
21. Move slowly, confidently, and in a controlled

fashion. Think James Bond. No frantic movements
or nervous energy.
22. Don’t just look at her, look around as well.

Sometimes, as she’s talking, casually look behind her,
or around the bar, or out the window. Always be
casual and relaxed, not excited, and not “cool”. If
she’s really beautiful or desirable, you can even look
like you’re just a little bored.
23. Be chivalrous, but not a chode. Hold the door

open for her. When walking on the sidewalk, walk on
the street side. However, don’t go overboard and pull
her seat our for her, or things like that. A little
chivalry shows masculinity, class, and strength. Too
much chivalry shows neediness that kills attraction (or
puts you in the “make him wait for sex” category). Do
just enough that shows you’re aware, but stop there.
Remember, women don’t behave like it’s the 1950’s

any more, so neither should you!
24. If anything, end the date with a hug, not a

kiss. As we’ve discussed, don’t end the date with a
kiss (unless you’ve already been kissing a lot). Also,
don’t end the date with a handshake and don’t end the
date with a wave goodbye. Most importantly, DO
NOT have some awkward moment at the end of the
date. Walk her to her car if appropriate (and usually it
isn’t), then give her a big, confident hug, tell her to
have fun, say goodbye, turn around, and slowly walk
away.
25. DHV, but don’t brag. Talking about your last

trip to Europe is good. Telling her you’re a wealthy
jetsetter is bad. See the difference? Indirect DHVing
is an attractor. Having a slight arrogant air can also be
an attractor, but bragging is a big turn off. Even if you
think she’ll be impressed, no bragging.
26. Don’t drink more than one drink. A) You’re

trying to keep your costs down. B) You need to be on
your game right now and alcohol will screw that up
fast. C) You need to demonstrate you’re only having
one, so that (hopefully) she will only order one. I
barely drink...I’ve never been drunk in my entire life.
I’ve been slightly buzzed perhaps 6 or 7 times in my
entire life. So what I do is usually order a virgin drink
or have a glass or half-glass of white wine that I nurse
for the entire 90 minutes.
27. Do NOT talk about you and her getting

married, or moving in together, or moving your
homes closer together, or how well both of your
kids will get along. I told you what the biggest
complaint women give me about men on first dates is
(complaining about the ex the whole time). Here’s the

second biggest: On the first date, too many men start
in with the “serious talk”. Many men, usually older
men, will actually talk about marriage, moving in
together, and other crazy things on the first damn date.
Even if she likes you, this is an instant deal-killer. If
you’ve internalized confidence and OI, you shouldn’t
even be thinking this way, even if this woman is the
most amazing woman you’ve ever met. No serious
talk until you’ve had sex with a woman twice! (Even
then, only if your objective is an LTR.)
28. Don’t give her any of your opinions about

politics, religion, marriage, divorce or prenuptial
agreements. Consider these five areas forbidden
topics until you’ve had sex with her at least twice.
These really are no-win topics when dating a woman,
pre-sex. If you’re very careful, to a degree you can
discuss your experiences with those things, just not
your opinions. If you’re following the rule above
about letting her do 85% of the talking, this shouldn’t
be a problem, but if you’re a more opinionated guy
(like me), you’re going have to keep your yap shut for
the time being.
What if she brings up one of these topics and asks your

opinion? Without lying, agree with her, or agree with
some aspect of what her opinion is, then change the
topic, and re-direct back to her.
29. Do not look at other women. Looking around

is fine. Gawking at other women beyond a basic
glance will likely cause you to lose points. If, while
you’re talking to her and some gorgeous blonde with
huge knockers walks right past you, exert self-control.
Even your date might look at her and comment about
it. But not you. “Hey, I’m a manly man,” you say to
me, “I look at attractive women!” Once you have sex

with this woman twice, you can go back to being your
manly horny self, and she won’t care at that point.
Remember I’m just talking about the first date here.
30. If you have kids, talk about the time you

spend with your kids and how much you enjoy it. I
have kids, and this technique is one of my “secret
weapons” that has yielded fantastic results. Women
have powerful biological wiring to look for a man who
makes a great dad. If you have kids and demonstrate
that your kids are very important to you, and that you
see them a lot, you will score major points with
women including ones who don’t yet have children of
their own. I’m divorced but I see my kids every single
week, often more than that, and I make it a point to tell
women this, and this alone has gotten me laid by more
than one woman. Some men believe that women will
view men with kids as “baggage”, when the reality is
quite the opposite, believe me.
31. Make positive or neutral observations about

her. Not complements, observations. Stop, pause,
look her in the eye, tilt your head to one side, and say
“You seem like the kind of person who…” then make
a positive or neutral observation. (Remember not to
have it be about her appearance.) Women LOVE men
who are intuitive and LOVE to be told things about
themselves. What if your observation is wrong?
Guess what? She’ll take it and run with it, even if she
spins it in another way. If she actually says you’re
wrong, just keep going with it “And, you seem like a
person who…”
32. Anticipate, and be prepared for, her “test

questions”. A test question is when she asks
something like “Do you want kids?” or “Do you want
to get married someday?” These are test questions,

and you’d better answer “correctly” or you’re OUT.
Your only two valid options are to either answer the
question the way she wants, without lying, or to
creatively dodge the answer and change the subject
(yes, a third option would be lying to her and telling
her what she wants to hear, but as I’ve said repeatedly,
I don’t endorse lying to women). You really need to
know thyself and what it is you want for your future,
and you should know answers to the “test questions”
in advance so you’re prepared for them when they
come. And they will come.
Speaking generally, all single women want to get

married someday, even the ones who have gone
through horrible divorces. Even older women who
don’t actually want to get legally married still want
that “one person” to spend the “rest of her life with”.
Speaking generally, all women who don’t have

children yet want children someday. Most women
under age 35 with less than two children want more
children.
So now you more or less know the answers she’s

looking for. Beware.
Troubleshooting
What if she doesn’t drink, or hates bars, or is under age 21?

It’s fancy coffee shop time (or, less desirably, restaurant
time, but again, try to avoid this). All the above rules apply.
Purchase one drink for you and one drink for her.
What if you have no choice and have to meet her at a

restaurant? Avoid this if at all possible, but I do understand
that life is life, and sometimes you’ll have no choice. If this
happens, make sure to meet her well outside “dinner hours”.

After 8pm is good. Let her know in advance that you’re
going to get dessert. This nicely conveys that this will not
be a “dinner date”. (I once dated a very hot singer who had
been on national TV several times, who was under 21 years
old and thus couldn’t drink. Our first date was at a cheap
24-hour restaurant at 11:30pm, and a vanilla milkshake
which we both shared was all I ordered. I ended up dating
her for several months.)
What if she’s really late to the date? I have a 30 minute rule.

If she’s more than 30 minutes, I tell her to forget it and I
leave. How rude I am when doing this, and whether or not I
see her again, depends on the circumstances. Waiting 30
minutes is bad enough. Waiting past 30 minutes really
shows neediness.
What if she flakes? Depends. There’s flaking and there’s

rescheduling.
A good 30% of the time, a woman will contact you before

the day of the date (or sometimes, the very day) and say that
something came up, or that she forgot about something, and
will try to reschedule with you. This is normal. Most
women are flakey and do have a very hard time keeping
scheduled commitments in their personal lives. It’s part of
being a woman. Don’t take it personally. Tell her it’s no
problem, and reschedule the date with her. If she then
reschedules a second time, I’d probably move on.
Actually flaking is when a woman literally never shoes up

for a date, without calling or texting or anything. If you’re
doing everything I teach in this book, this should never
happen. I consider flaking a permanent deal-breaker.
Unless there is an actual medical emergency, I consider
flaking rude and offensive in the extreme. In all the dating
I’ve have ever done, only once have I had a date where a
woman actually flaked…she was a police officer and she

was in a severe car accident in the line of duty earlier that
day, and was hospitalized for over a week. Pretty good
excuse, I’d say.
And that’s my point. If women are actually flaking on you

often, you are doing something wrong. You’re not
confirming, or you’re demonstrating neediness, or you didn’t
establish comfort pre-date, or something.
Chapter Eleven
Between The First And Second Date
You’ve had your first date. Guess what? The hardest part is
over. The rest is mostly a repeat of what you’ve already
done. And if you do it all right, getting to sex will be easy.
There are all kinds of jokes about how long to wait before
you “call a woman back”. Frankly, there is no hard and fast
rule. But here’s what my experience has shown me.
• Contacting the woman the same day or same evening

as the date is usually too soon. It’s what most guys do,
and it conveys massive neediness.
• Contacting the woman several days later is too long.

Since you’re not locked into her yet, she will often
“float away” in the flow of her complicated life if you
wait several days.
So the answer is to wait 24 to 48 hours before calling her

back. Yes, there are exceptions to this, so it’s not a hard and
fast rule, but in my experience it does apply a good 90% of
the time. Over time as you become more dating
experienced, you will learn to calibrate these kinds of things
from woman to woman and circumstance to circumstance.
The Ultimate IOI
If you’ve done everything right, and she likes you, you may
not need to worry about when to contact her…she may
contact you first. This is what I call the Ultimate IOI. An
“IOI” is an Indicator of Interest. It can be nonverbal, like if
she starts touching your hands before you touch hers. Or it
can be verbal, like when she says “You’re a Taurus?
Tauruses totally turn me on for some reason!”
But the greatest and best IOI you can possibly get is when
you’re driving away from your first date, your phone beeps,
you pick it up, and it’s a text from her, telling you what a
great time she had with you. That’s the Ultimate IOI, and
based on my experience, when I get one of those, I know
that unless I really screw something up, I’ll be having sex
with this woman on the very next date (or sometimes the
date after). It’s pretty much in the bag.
When you get a text (or email or phone call) like this, this is
GOOD. You’ve done everything right. Keep it up!
However the post-first-date contact is initiated, once you’re

talking to her again, nail down the second date immediately.
Don’t wait! Don’t get bogged down into some conversation!
Schedule that second date!
Also, when you are the one contacting her after the first date,
don’t start off with a text that says something like “So, what
do you think? Should we see each other again?” or “Let’s
go out again!” Very weak. Instead, contact her by referring
back to something fun you both discussed. Once you’re
talking back and forth (via texts or phone or whatever), then,
nail down the second date.
Also remember that the more time that goes by between the
first and second date, the less likely you are to get to sex
with this woman, since there will be more things that may
“come up” in her life in the interim (including other men).
So schedule the second date for as soon as she can make it.
Where should the second date be? Here, you have a primary
goal, and a secondary, fallback goal. Your primary goal is
to have her come over to your home for the second date.
The reason is obvious, but you’re not going to even HINT
that the reason is sex. Do that, and you will instantly

activate her “I’m not a slut!” defense system. Instead, you
need to give her some other fun reason to come over, that
has nothing to do with sex at all. Rent a DVD, play Wii
(women love the Wii), watch videos on YouTube, barbeque
her some ribs, whatever, it doesn’t really matter. Just think
of something fun to do at your place, even if it’s as “dumb”
as watching a movie, and pitch her that idea.
Likely, she’ll agree to it. This in itself is another huge IOI.
Often, however, she may resist the idea of going to your

place. If this happens, that’s fine. Don’t push the issue.
Just set up the second date at one of your other pre-selected
fancy bars, and nail down the time and date.
If she wants to get into any big telephone conversations at

this point, I would avoid it. Again, we want to get to sex
with the minimum amount of time invested. A long
conversation would only be a good idea if the second date
was not going to be for a long while (over a week).
In any communication at this point, keep the tenure of your

overall attitude the same. Review all the first date
techniques in the last chapter, an always maintain a
confident and OI attitude.
Chapter Twelve
The Second Date
Time for your second date at either your place or at a
different fancy bar than the first bar you took her too.
The second date is a repeat performance of the first date,

with two key differences we’ll get to in a minute. You’re
going to use the exact same attitudes, techniques, and rules
you’ve already learned and executed on your first date.
Don’t compliment her appearance, touch her a lot, lean back,
be confident, don’t worry about the outcome, only order one
drink for her and one drink for you, etc, etc. All the same
stuff.
There are only two differences. First off, there is no 90

minute time limit this time. This date should last as long as
it needs to. It could be 90 minutes again, or it could be 2
hours, or 4 hours, or even longer. It’s totally up to you (but
again, remember our goal of sex with the minimum amount
of time invested).
Here’s the second and more important difference: On the

second date, you’re going to get sexual. No more “don’t
kiss” rule. On this date, you’re definitely kissing her, and
ideally you’re going to go all the way to sex.
Generally, here’s how you move to sexual contact (this

includes kissing):
1. Get her talking about sex or attraction or men,

just like you learned back in chapter ten.
2. Kino her heavily, going from hands, to arms, to

shoulders, to legs, to back, etc, just like you
learned in chapter ten.
3. Kino her to the point where you are touching her

hair. Then, if it feels right, touch her face.
4. If she doesn’t flinch as you do this touching,

she’s ready to be kissed. Just slowly pull her
over and kiss her. Do NOT verbalize the kiss in
any way. Big mistake if you do this! Don’t ask
her if she wants to be kissed, or if she’s a good
kisser, or any of that stuff…if you’re on the
second date and she’s letting you touch her hair
and her face, without flinching, she’s ready to be
kissed. Shut the hell up and KISS HER.
5. When kissing her for the first time, kiss her for a
few seconds and be the first one to pull away.
This is very important, and sometimes it’s hard
to remember when you’re in the throws of
passion, but do it nonetheless. It’s a process
called push/pull, and it’s very powerful. It
creates even more sexual tension and attraction
within her.
6. Talk to her more for a little bit (not about the

kiss that just happened, though you can if she
brings it up), then just kiss her again.
7. Now, really kiss her. Make out.
8. If you’re in private place, move to touching her

back, her thighs, her ass, and her tits. Get as
sexual as you can.
9. If you’re in a private place, attempt sex. I go

into detail about exactly how to do this in the
next chapter.
The goal of the second date is to get as far sexually as you

can, even if this means sex. Sex is a likely outcome on date
number two if some or all of the following conditions are
true:
1. She clearly really likes you.
2. She gave you the Ultimate IOI (she texted you first,
soon after the first date).
3. She’s clearly sexually comfortable, i.e. has no problem

talking explicitly about sex, lets you touch her body
without protest, etc.
4. She’s under age 33 or under.
5. She agreed to meet you at your place for the second

date instead of a public location.
6. Most importantly, you are confident and outcome

independent, regarding her and your sexual moves
towards her.
Now, if she doesn’t want sex, or stops you before sex, and is
clear about it after you try two or three times, then just drop
it, and forget about sex for the evening. Just resume talking,
(or even better, politely end the date as soon as you can). As
I’ve said, many women aren’t comfortable with sex until the
third date no matter how good you are or how much they
like you. So this is fine…at least for the moment.
How To Isolate For Sexual Escalation
If you’re already at your home with her, you don’t need to

worry about isolating her. But if you’re at a bar, obviously
you can’t have sex with her there. If she’s really drunk, you
could squeeze her tits right there in the bar, or pull her into
the bathroom and have sex with her in there, but that’s not
my system nor my style. (You’ve only bought her one drink
anyway.)
You’ll have to get her home to get beyond sexual touching.

This means getting her to your home or to her home. More
likely, this means your home. 95% of all of my first-time
lays took place in my home, not her home, and you should
assume a similar ratio.
How do you get her to your home from the bar? Once again,
you’re going to have to maneuver around her “I’m not a
slut” defense mechanism. Even if she wants to have sex
with you tonight, if you say to her “Let’s go to my place to
have sex!” or even “Hey, baby, let’s go do my place <wink,
wink>”, you will instantly activate her “I’m not a slut”
defenses and she will refuse at best, get pissed at you at
worst.
Instead you must give her a reason to come over to your

home that has nothing to do with sex. It could be things
like:
“I need to go home to check my email. Want to come? We

can watch a movie.”
“Hey, when we’re done here, you should come to my place

and check out my saltwater fish tank we were talking about.”
“After this, I’m headed home to watch a movie. I just rented

<whatever>. You can join me if you want.”
“You should come to my place and check out that African

mask! It’s wild!”
You get the idea. If she wants to have sex with you, she will
say yes to any of these things. And she’s not stupid; she
knows you’re going to your place to have sex. She just can’t
hear that verbalized. Yes, it’s silly, but it’s part of the deal
with dealing with women.
So bottom line, on the second date you must escalate

sexually as far as you can without bugging her about it more
than two or three times. It really doesn’t matter how far you
get. If you can only get to a good makeout or two, that’s
fine. If you get to sucking her tits on your couch or a
blowjob in your car in the parking lot, that’s fine too. If you
get her back to your place and have sex, great. Get as far as
you can.
The point is, if you don’t get to sex, she know knows you are
a sexual man and that on the third date, sex is coming. This
is critical. You’re going to have a very hard time having sex
with her on the third date if nothing sexual happened on the
second date, and the more sexual you get on the second date,
the more likely sex is to occur on the third date. (This is
literally an inverse of the first date, where the more sexual
you get there, the less likely you are to ever have sex.
Strange, I know. But it works.)
Chapter Thirteen
Getting To Sex
If you had sex with her on your second date, and hopefully
you did, then my work here is done. Congratulations, and
keep dating other women and putting in the numbers!
If not, that’s OK. We need to keep moving. Tonight is the

night (with exceptions, which we’ll cover later).
Like scheduling the second date, you want to schedule the

third date to occur as soon as possible. The third date is not
going to be at a bar. It’s going to be “movie night” at your
house, or some other fun event like we talked about in
chapter 11. “Movie night” is my favorite. Just tell her to
come over to your place to relax and watch a movie. Tell
her what movies you plan to watch or rent. You should
know her enough by now to know what types of movies she
likes. If you have no idea, the default for women are
comedies or romantic comedies, though I’ve found most
women really like horror movies too. Like with the second
date, do not imply any sexual stuff when talking to her about
the third date. Make it sound like a relaxing, chill, low-key
evening. If she likes to drink (and the vast majority of
women do), tell her what kind of drinks you’ll have there
too.
If you’ve gotten this far, and done everything right, and she
was sexual to some degree on the second date, she will
usually have no problem with this, and agree to this with no
resistance. As I’ve said all along, women like to have sex on
the third date.
If she does balk at actually meeting at your home for the

third date, this is a red flag. Something is wrong here.
Maybe she isn’t into you. Maybe you screwed up and did
something wrong. If she refuses to come to your place at

this point, it’s a judgment call on your part if you still want
to see her. Realize that if you do, your odds of having sex
have gone way down, but if you want to keep pursing her for
just a little bit longer, I won’t object.
If you do, where do you think you schedule the third date?
You guessed it, meet her at yet another fancy bar, and do a
repeat of the second date, including the kino and sexual
stuff, and then you attempt to isolate her by getting her back
to your place or her place, just like we talked about in the
last chapter. Sometimes, women do need to meet at a bar for
the third date, then easily end up at your place for sex; it’s
not normal but it does happen.
Preparing Your Home
You need to assume that you are having sex with her tonight
(because, if you’ve done everything right, you probably are).
So your home needs to be 100% prepared for this. Here’s
how:
1. Your bathroom(s) should be as close to spotless as you

can get it. Going to the bathroom is a much
more…intimate experience for a woman than it is for
us guys. Toilet, sink, floor, shower, everything should
be clean. Remove all clutter from your bathroom
counters. Shove everything into a box and shove the
box in a closet if you need to. Also, check all the toilet
paper on your toilet paper rolls. If you don’t have a
LOT on all of them, replace them with new full ones.
2. Your kitchen should be generally clean. It doesn’t
need to be spotless like the bathroom, but any moldy
six-day old pizza should be dealt with.
3. The rest of your home, outside of the bathroom and
kitchen, should be generally clean and organized, but
not be too clean or organized. Women have strong
biological wiring that push them to “fix” men. If your

home is immaculate and organized in every way, this
is actually a turn-off for a woman, because she has
nothing to “fix”. At the same time, if your home is
disgusting (especially your bathrooms) this will also
turn her off. So the objective is to have a clean home,
with two or three obvious “controlled messes”
somewhere in there. If your home is generally clean
and neat, but you also have, say, a pile of board games
shoved into one corner of a room, and the books on
your bookshelf are disheveled, and you have a bunch
of CD’s and DVD’s thrown all over your TV, and a
pile of dirty dishes on your kitchen counter, this will,
believe it or not, actually make her feel better about
you. Women expect men to be crude and dirty to
some degree. If they see some controllable messes in
your home, or some really stupid looking furniture, or
similar, they will think “Oh, I could totally fix this
guy”. And that’s exactly what you want them to think.
4. For the same reasons, do not go out of your way to
decorate your place the day of the date just to impress
her or be “girl-friendly” or to provide “ambiance”.
Some men do this, and this is a mistake. Again, if she
sees your home decorated in a way she hates, she’ll
just fantasize about how she would decorate your
home. This is perfect! As long as your home is
generally clean, and your bathroom is very clean,
don’t worry about your decorations.
5. Plan the seating arrangements in advance. If the
movie-watching (if any) is to occur in your bedroom,
make sure there is nowhere to sit in your bedroom,
other than your bed. If it’s going to happen in the
living room, and there is a couch and a big chair, move
the big chair out of there or at least make sure there’s a
big pile of “crap” on the chair, forcing her to sit on the
couch with you. You get the idea.
6. Most importantly, make sure condoms and personal

lubricant are located in several places in your home for
easy access. Nothing kills sexual escalation like you
running around your home with your pants off looking
for a condom or lube while she’s on your floor waiting
for you. As a side point to this, always assume that
women need lube. Some don’t, but many women, of
all ages, do.
7. Plan where you’re going to have sex, in advance.
Sometimes this is tough, but plan anyway. I prefer to
have sex with a woman on a good thick blanket on the
floor, so I have two big thick blankets located behind
my couch that I can whip out at a moment’s notice. If
you want to have sex in your bed, that’s fine too. My
general rule of thumb is if I know the woman is going
to be an FB, I will push hard to have sex with her on
the floor, and if she’s going to be an LTR or WD, I’ll
let her have sex in my bed, but only if she asks.
8. It’s my experience that most women are used to noise
going at all times. They actually get uncomfortable if
your house or apartment is silent without music
playing. So often I’ll turn my stereo on to some top 40
station (or some other type of music if you know she
hates top 40), with the volume low. It really does
make a difference with putting women at ease.
Sexual Escalation
Once she is in your home alone with you, here’s how you
escalate all the way to sex.
1. As soon as you get home, take her on the tour of your

home. Show her all the rooms, including the bedroom.
You want her comfortable in your domain.
2. Get her relaxed and comfortable. Usually, this is just

sitting and talking. If she’s a drinker, it might be
having a drink in your kitchen. It might be watching a

movie. Unless she’s in a horny mood already, do not
start kissing her or getting sexual yet. Give her a good
10 to 15 minutes to relax first.
3. Start in with your kino, and use the same order you
used on the second date. Just causally and confidently
kino her as you’re both talking. Get to the point where
you are touching her hair or her face, and then kiss her.
4. Make out. If you are not already sitting where you

want to have sex, make her stand up. Keep kissing
her, and “walk” her over to where you want to have
sex.
5. Most important: At all times, make sure you are the

LEADER, and you are LEADING HER. When getting
sexual, to not ask her to do things. TELL HER.
ORDER her. To not check to see if she’s OK with
things. JUST DO IT. If she then says no, then stop.
Otherwise, YOU’RE THE BOSS HERE. I can’t tell
you how many times women have told me things after
sex like “I love how you’re so aggressive!” or “I love
how you tell me what to do!” or “I love how you just
grab me!” Be a MAN and LEAD.
6. As you’re making out, start touching whatever part of

her skin is exposed, such as neck, upper chest, legs if
she’s wearing a skirt, etc.
7. Slowly and confidently lift up her shirt and start

kissing her stomach. Again, don’t ask her if you can
do this. JUST DO IT. Of course, stop if she says no
(we’ll get to what to do if she says no in a minute).
8. Kiss up her stomach then, remove her bra and suck her
tits.
9. Start feeling her ass under her clothing (and under her
panties), then move your finger under her ass, and start
rubbing her nether regions.
10. She might comment on this, or make noises.

Unless she clearly tells you to stop, push your finger
inside her and start fingering her.
11. Once you get this far, the rest is easy. Get her
pants off and your pants off, and have sex. Be sure to
use a condom. STD’s are bad, getting her pregnant is
even worse.
Now what if she stops you? Here’s what you shouldn’t do:
1. Keep going. Never keep going if a woman says “No”

or “Stop”. The laws in this area 100% favor women.
If she says “No”, you stop. That being said, if she says
things like “I’m not sure about this” or “We shouldn’t
be doing this”, those are acceptable to proceed with.
Women often say those kinds of things the first time
she’s with a man; it’s more of her “I’m not a slut”
programming. So just so we’re clear: Things like “I
don’t know if we should be doing this” are a green
light, things like “No” or “Stop” are red lights.
2. Beg her. “Oh, c’mon, it’ll be OK!”
3. Get mad at her. “Jeez! What’s wrong? What’s your

problem?”
4. Start negotiating with her. “Look, I promise I’ll just

suck your tits. I won’t do anything else. OK?”
These four things are what most men do, and their
effectiveness is limited. What you should do instead is
employ a technique called the freeze-out. A freeze out is

when she stops you, you completely disengage from her,
move away from her, and ignore her for a small frame of
time. How much you disengage and how long you ignore
her depends on the number of times she stops you. The first
time she stops you, you’re going to disengage slightly and
ignore her just briefly. The third time, you’re really going to
ramp it up.
Here is an example.
You’re removing her clothing. Her shirt and bra are off, and
you’re trying to get her pants off. She stops you.
Freeze-out: You say nothing, roll off of her completely, put

your hands behind your head, stare at the ceiling, and hum a
tune.
She starts touching you again, and perhaps says something.

You start sexual escalation again.
Let’s say she stops you again.
Freeze-out: This time, you say, “I’m getting a drink of water.

I’m thirsty,” then get off of her, go into the kitchen, have a
drink, relax for a minute, then come back (or wait for her to
come to you).
You get hot and heavy with her once again. Let’s say she
stops you a third time. You say “Hey, I’m going go check
my email,” and you leave the room. Go to some other part
of the house, and for 5 or 10 minutes, check your email or
play World of Warcraft.
You get the point. What overcomes a woman’s reluctance is

not you talking to her or complaining at her or negotiating
with her, but you ignoring her, and acting totally unaffected
by her reluctance. As much as you want sex, women want

attention. Take that attention away, and women become
very complaint very fast.
Here’s the good news to all of this. If you’ve done

everything I’ve outlined in this book, you won’t have to
employ freeze-outs at all. If you’ve followed this process,
she’s ready to have sex with you, with no games, already.
I’m completely confident and outcome independent, and
follow this process exactly, and I almost never have to
employ freeze-outs with a woman. The entire “two or three
date” process is there so that you don’t have to fight a
woman to have sex with you.
Chapter Fourteen
Troubleshooting
We’ve covered the entire “two to three date” process in
detail, from what to think, to how to act, to exactly what to
do and not do. Of course, not every woman is going to fall
into exact lock-step with what I’ve outlined here.
We’ll now discuss what happens if women don’t go along

with the program.
What if she won’t agree to a first date with me?
If you’ve asked a woman out on a first date two or three

times, for God’s sake, MOVE ON. Have some dignity. Go
find four or five other women you like and ask them.
Always be putting in the numbers.
What if she insists on a “dinner and a movie” type date?
This means one of three possibilities:
1. You’re being very weak in the way you’re asking this

woman out.
2. She’s a Gold-Digger.
3. She’s an older woman (one of the “over 33” types)

who demands this kind of behavior from men who
“date” her, versus men who just sleep with her.
When I ask a woman out, and pitch the “fancy bar” date, and
she counters with a “dinner and a movie” date, I confidently
(but sweetly) tell her that I’m the one asking her out, and if
she wants to go out with me, that’s how we’re going to do it.
If she still complains, I politely move on. There are plenty

of other, lower-maintenance women out there, trust me.
What if she flakes?
We’ve discussed this already, but I’ll reiterate. If you’re

doing everything we’ve talked about, women should not be
flaking on you. If, despite this, a woman literally does not
show up for a date, without calling or texting, unless she had
some kind of catastrophic medical emergency, consider her
out. This kind of behavior is beyond rude, and unacceptable
in my book, and I don’t care what her reason was (again,
unless she’s in the hospital, or her dad died, or something
similar). Forget her, and move on to other women.
What if she keeps rescheduling dates?
This does happen a lot. It’s a judgment call on your part.

My general rule about this is a “two-strikes you’re out”
policy. If a woman reschedules a date with me two times in
a row, I consider her out, unless he’s unusually amazing,
then I might give her one more shot.
The bottom line here is to not continue working with a

woman who doesn’t know how to control her schedule.
What if she won’t agree to a second date with me?
That means she doesn’t like you. If a woman meets you on

a first date, and won’t meet you for a second date OR won’t
communicate with you after the first date OR gives you the
Lets Just Be Friends speech, that means she doesn’t like you
and never will. And this is good. You’ve only spent 90
minutes and 0 to 15 dollars. You are no longer going to
waste any more time on a woman who doesn’t want to have
sex with you. Move on to other women.
Even at my level, if I schedule 10 first dates, four to six of

those women don’t ever want to see me again after the first
date. And this is fine, because I’ll probably have sex with
least three of the remaining women, if not more.
What if she won’t kiss me on the first date?
If you’re following my system, you shouldn’t be trying to

kiss a woman on a first date, unless you already know her
really well.
What if she won’t kiss me on the second date?
Consider this a red flag, but not a showstopper.
It’s hard to say why she won’t kiss you, because there can be
many reasons for this. Maybe she wants to kiss you, but
she’s not ready. Maybe she wants to kiss you, but not in
public. Maybe you’re acting too needy. Maybe you didn’t
kino her correctly, the way I described. Maybe she doesn’t
want to kiss you at all. Who knows?
Give her a little more time, kino her more, and keep
escalating to a kiss (and more). If she still doesn’t kiss you
but seems to like you, no problem. Go ahead and schedule
the third date, and then sexually escalate HARD.
What if we’re sexual, but she won’t have sex with me on the
third date?
Unless she’s on her period, this is a major red flag and likely
a complete deal-breaker. Get as sexual as you possibly can.
Go as far as you possibly can using freeze-outs. If you do
get clothing off and get sexual but not all the way to sex, and
she seems to genuinely like you, go ahead and schedule one
more date with her. Just remember that this fourth date is
“make it or break it time” for her.
The fourth date should be either at your home again, or her

home, or at yet another fancy bar, preferably near your
home. On this date, you’re going to talk, have fun, do your
thing, and then sexual escalate as far as you can again.
But what if she won’t have sex with me on the fourth date?
She’s OUT and you’re done with her. MOVE ON. I have a
hard and fast four date maximum rule. Sex with me by date
number two, three or four, or I move on to the next woman.
Period. I went into detail why I do this way back in chapter
two.
The good news is once you get good with this system, you
will almost never get to the end of the fourth date without
sex. You’ll be able to screen out the women who don’t want
to have sex with you much sooner (usually, by the end of the
first date!).
Tough love time. If you do get a woman to four dates

without sex, that means you did something wrong. Or you
kept on dating a woman who never had any intention of
having sex with you, which still means you still did
something wrong (you should have picked up on this and
stopped seeing her sooner). Think back over what you did,
and compare it to the process I’ve laid out here. I guarantee
you, you’ve done something wrong…likely, several things
wrong. Make a mental note, dust yourself off, and move on
to the next woman. Don’t repeat your mistakes this time!
Chapter Fifteen
Dating After Sex
You’ve had sex on the third date. Now what?
That’s really a question beyond the scope of this book. The

next book in the Blackdragon Dating System is How To
Create And Maintain Open Relationships With Women.
Unless you’re 100% committed to the idea of only having
sex with only one woman for the rest of your life, I would
recommend you check it out. It tells you step-by-step how
to take ANY woman you’ve just started dating and get her to
be with you in an open relationship. I’ve done it many times
and highly recommend it.
But as far as general post-sex advice goes, by now, you’ve

hopefully mentally placed this woman into a category of FB,
WD, or LTR, and that will give you a good guide on how to
proceed.
If she’s an FB, hang out with her, but don’t take her out on
“dates” and don’t spend money on her. Have sex with her,
and enjoy her company. Definitely continue to keep dating
other women.
If she’s a WD, keep dating her. Spending money on her is

fine, but don’t be extravagant. Don’t make any big
commitments to her until you are 100% sure she is LTR
material and compatible with your life and who you are,
even if that takes months of dating her. Definitely continue
to date other women. Don’t put all of your eggs in one
basket.
If she’s an LTR, and your goal is a serious LTR, make her

your girlfriend if you wish. Just make sure that you are
always being a man, and you are always leading the
direction of the relationship. Don’t get sucked into her rules,

expectations, or demands just because you like her. Never
operate from a position of fear.
No matter what happens or what category she’s in, unless

you are absolutely, 100% sure you want an LTR and the
woman you have in mind is perfect for it, always, always,
always keep putting in the numbers of women, always keep
scheduling first dates, and keep moving women through the
two or three-date process. It’s normal to have several first
dates to have sex with one woman. Always remember that.
Good luck!
P.S. If you have some successes or interesting experiences

using this system, or any parts of it, send me an email to
[email protected] and let me know. I’d love
to hear your story.
Blackdragon Dating System: Volume Five Part One
How To Attract
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Younger Women
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How To Bring Younger Women Into Your Life and

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Table Of Contents
Introduction 5
How To Use This Book Set 6
1. Overview 7
2. The Three Types Of Younger Women 17
3. The Necessary Frame To Have 23
4. Your Age As A DHV 31
5. Fashion and Physical Appearance 35
6. Where and How To Meet Younger Women 48
7. Online Dating With Younger Women 55
8. Daygame With Younger Women - Part One 63
9. Daygame With Younger Women - Part Two 70
10. First Dates and Day2s 78
11. Specific Techniques For Type Threes 85
12. Ongoing Relationships With Younger Women 90
13. VYW Referral Game 100
14. Drama Management 112
15. Things To Watch Out For 119
16. Sex 133
Afterword 142
Introduction
This book and it’s two companion volumes, Younger Women
Case Studies and Younger Women Transcripts is designed
primarily for men over age 30 who are interested in dating
women much younger than they are. If you are under 30
you will still derive a great deal of value from these books if
you date women under age 30, just but realize at many
points it’s geared towards men who are a little older.
Dating younger women is not difficult. I’ve been doing it

consistently and with great success for many years now. It
simply requires a slightly different approach and different
focus from attracting women your own age.
I can tell you for a fact that having younger women in your
life is extremely rewarding, not only sexually but
emotionally and in terms of living a happy life. Not to
mention that younger women keep you younger as well!
How To Use This Book Set

In this book I use a lot of terms and acronyms that apply to
dating, seduction, and relationships that I use across all of
my writings.
I could spend pages and pages of this book listing out a

glossary of terms, but what makes more sense is to just point
you to my online glossary at my blog. Every unusual term
or acronym I use is defined there, and I always update the
definitions and new terms there to adjust to new information.
So any time you come across a term like AFC, LSNFTE,

soft next, or MLTR, just click over my glossary and it will
have all the answers you need.
There are three actual books in this package. THIS book is

the one you should read first. The second is the case studies
book, the third is the transcripts book. Of course you’re
welcome read the books in any order you like but I wrote
them with the above sequence in mind.
Chapter One
Overview
Years ago when I was still married and well into my thirties,
I had occasional thoughts, like all men do, of what it would
be like to date a woman who was 19 years old, or 22 years
old, or any youthful age.
It wasn’t an overwhelming desire, like that experienced by

Kevin Spacy’s character in the movie American Beauty.
Rather, it was simply a passing pleasurable curiosity. “I
wonder what that would be like?”
At the ripe old age of 35, I found myself divorced and single
once again, for the first time in almost ten years. I started
dating. A lot. I dated and had sex with many women in a
relatively short period of time, as I’ve talked about in detail
in my other ebooks.
Most of these women were in my own age range, a little

younger, a little older, at most no more than eight or nine
years plus or minus my own age. I enjoyed these women,
but after a while my thoughts started returning to that
curiosity about younger women. Much younger women.
For the first time I seriously considered attempting to date
18 and 19 year-olds. Hell, I thought, why not?
So I did my best to approach much younger women, both in

real life and online. To my surprise, I was soon on a date
with an extremely attractive 20 year-old. The youngest
woman I had ever dated at that point was 26, and here I was,
on a date with a 20 year-old girl, myself being 15 years older

than her.
During that first experience with a woman that young, there

was some good and some bad.
The bad was that she indeed acted like a teenager. She
swore like a sailor. Though I could tell she was intelligent,
her speech patterns were that of a moron. At one point she
spent 20 minutes talking about her hair. I’m not kidding.
Her hair.
The good news was that she was so beautiful, so full of

energy and life, and so fun to just be with, I was able to
overlook a lot of this immaturity. I was extremely turned on.
Moreover there was an…effortlessness…to the sexual
attraction that seemed less forced somehow than with
women in their 30s or 40s.
The first date was very brief, like most of my first dates,
because we both had tight schedules that day. When I got
back to my home, I was suddenly overcome with a horniness
I had never experienced before. It was really something. I
was so randy I was temped to have sex with my couch. I was
overcome with a powerful, sexual euphoria that I had never
experienced before. And the amazing thing was I wasn’t
really that attracted to her. She was very attractive, but a lot
of women are very attractive. This was…different.
There is, without a doubt, a powerful biological mechanism

within men of all ages that generates powerful sexual
attraction to women of prime childbearing age. That means
women in their late teens and perhaps early twenties. I have
experienced it many times, and you probably have too, even
if you’re and old man. I don’t think this biology diminishes
much just because you turn 30, 40, or even 50, even if your
preferences in types of women change over that time.
That first date with the 20 year-old never went anywhere,

primarily because I did a lot wrong. Despite being a little
turned off by her silliness and immaturity, I remembered the
powerful attraction I had for her. I thought to myself “Hey, I
got one out on a first date. If I did it once, I can do it again.
If I can do it a few times, I should be able to actually have
sex with a woman that young.” It made sense. What did I
have to lose?
So while dating women around my own age, I also

attempted to date women who were much younger, primarily
the 18 to 23 crowd.
I ended up in a brief relationship with a woman at that time

(age 31) and for a while suspended my “prospecting” efforts
(though I was still sexual with other women; monogamy is
not something I’m a big fan of). After a few months, we
broke up, and I resumed.
About two months after that, it finally happened. I had sex

with a very pretty 18 year-old. I was 36 at the time. A few
months later I had sex with another 18 year-old, and actually
had an open relationship with her that lasted several months,
during which I had sex with two of her friends, both of them
18 years old.
That was all several years ago. As of this writing I am now

almost 40. Since then I have had sex with, and relationships
with, a huge number of women ages 18 to 23. Many of them
were quick flings. Many of them I’ve had ongoing
relationships with. I’ve even had an open relationship with a
19 year-old that has lasted consistently for two and a half
years so far (she is now 21).
I have not just dated younger women over the last few years.
I’ve dated and had sex with many women, some much
younger, some around my age, some older, and a handful

much older. I can tell you from real and extreme experience
that younger women are easier to be with in dating contexts,
as well as relationships, than women over age 30. I’m not
saying women over 30 don’t have their advantages. They
certainly do! But they simply cannot beat the ease, fun,
excitement, and happiness of younger, less angry, less jaded,
and of course better-bodied younger women.
I fully intend on continuing to date women this young for

many years, well into my 40’s and even 50’s. I have
personally worked with, known, and coached men in their
40’s and 50’s and many of them have ended up dating
women 20, 25, even 30 years younger.
It’s not tough if you do the right things and avoid doing the
wrong things. In this book and its companion books, you’ll
learn exactly what to do and not do so you can achieve the
same results.
Legal Ramifications
Before we get into the good stuff, we need to get this out of
the way first.
Never, ever, ever get sexual with a woman under the

legal age of consent.
Read that again. Then read it again. I’m serious about this.
I know a 23 year-old guy who is on house arrest, has to wear

ankle bracelet for four years, and has been legally branded a
sex offender for the rest of his life, all because he had fully
consensual sex with his girlfriend, an 17 year-old girl three
months before her 18th birthday. Her parents found out,
decided they didn’t like him, called the cops, and that was all
it took.
I could tell you other horror stories like this and I’m sure
you’ve heard them too. They do happen. Sadly, we live in a
hyper-frightened, overly litigious, politically correct era,
especially if you live in the United States like I do. Some
people out in your world are sadly freaked out about this
older man / younger woman issue. If you intend on dating
much younger women, you need to make sure you have all
your bases covered and never cross any legal lines.
This means you must do the following:
1. You must learn the legal age of consent in your

area (country, state, or province). If you are at all
unsure, get on the internet and find out. Some states
have very clear-cut ages of consent, others don’t, and
instead have lots of conditional rules. If you are at all
unclear after researching this online, spend $30 and
call a local attorney and have them explain it to you
until you understand it.
The legal system will not care if you didn’t know the
specifics of the age of consent laws in your area, so
you need to know them cold. Moreover, getting
sexual with someone under the age of consent is
considered a “strict liability” crime. That essentially
means the law does not have to prove you did it in
order to punish you.
Yes, you read that right. Messing around with legally

underage women is serious business. Learn the age of
consent in your area, and avoid all women who are
under that age, at last until they become legal.
2. Check her ID before you ever touch her. Have her

show you her state ID or driver’s license or passport or
social security card or something similar. Young girls
do lie about their age to make them appear older.
They do this all time. If she lies about her age and you
get sexual, you’re in the realm of “strict liability” and
you will go to jail regardless of anything else.
I have a strict policy of never even touching a much

younger woman until I’ve seen her driver’s license or
similar ID. If she can’t show me one because she
“forgot it” or “lost it” or whatever, it’s hands-off until
she can procure it and present it to me, no matter how
hot she is or how badly she wants me. I always
remember that the law will not be on my side if there
is a problem.
3. Verify her age through other means if suitable ID is

unavailable. As we’ll discuss later, younger women
tend to be somewhat irresponsible, especially when it
comes to paperwork issues. Often, they really don’t
have ID and really are telling the truth about their age.
That means you’re going to have to verify her age

some other way. There are many ways to do this, but
the easiest I’ve found is to get her full name (and if
you don’t know her well, verify that really is her
name) her social security number (or equivalent if you
live outside the US) and the name of the city she was
born in. Then call a private investigator and have him
verify her date of birth. It will cost you less than $40
to do this in most cases, and it’s the best 40 bucks
you’ll ever spend, believe me.
There are web sites that also provide services like this,
but they seem to go out of business all the time. So at
the moment, I’m unable to recommend any. If you do
find one that works, use it (and email me and let me

know). Some states and/or countries have sites that
actually show you a scan of her birth certificate for a
small fee. Nice.
Usually you will not need to go this far, but I have

done this more than once with several younger women
I’ve had sex with, and just the assurance that they were
indeed “legal” helped a lot with my confidence (an
extremely important thing you’re going to need; more
on this later) and peace of mind.
4. Use willpower and do not get sexual with underage

women who pressure you. You might get to the
point, as I have, where you get so good at this,
underage women will be propositioning you for sex.
This is where you need to be a mature man, use your

willpower, thank her for her interest, and get the hell
out of there. If she’s really hot and/or very physically
developed for her age, this will be hard, but you must
do it.
Over the years I have had multiple experiences where

underage women have pressured me for sex or sexual
“stuff”. Every time, I refused. I’m not going to jail,
thank you. You need to do the same.
You can get her phone number and/or friend her on

Facebook and stay away until she has her 18th birthday
(or whatever age she becomes legal in your area), then
hit her up. That’s fine. But the key point is you do not
touch them and you certainly do not have sex with
them when they’re not legal. Don’t be stupid.
I’ll say it one more time. I do not recommend, promote, or

endorse getting sexual with women under the legal age of
consent. Do not get sexual in any way with women under

the age of consent in your area. In most areas, that means
women under age 18.
Now don’t worry. There are plenty of 18 year-olds (and

slightly older) who are readily available for you. Let’s focus
on them.
Two Types Of Interest
Usually, I’ll refer to the women we’re talking about as

“VYW”, which stands for Very Young Women, defined for
this book (and the other books in the series) as women age
18 to age 23. If the age of consent in your area includes
women age 16 or 17, you may include them in the VYW
category as well. For most of the western world, 18 is the
age of consent, so for the rest of the book I’m going to
consider 18 as our lowest target age. Just reduce that age by
a year or two if the age of consent is lower where you live.
If you’re reading this book, you fall into one of two

categories.
1. You’re a guy who’s over age 30 who is interested in

dating VYW.
2. You’re an older guy who is well over age 45 or 50

who is interested in dating women VYW or any
women who are much younger than you, even if that
means women in their mid-twenties or above.
The vast majority of the techniques I’m going to be talking

about will apply equally to both types of men. When
necessary, I will differentiate the two types of men when
discussing certain topics.
What Is Too Old?
One of the more common questions I’m asked is “I’m 45

years old (or 59 years old, or 53 years old, or whatever). Is
it reasonable for me to expect to date an 18 year old? Is that
too old?”
In general, this is what I’ve seen. Assuming a man does

everything right, i.e. he does everything we’re going to talk
about in these three books, any man from age 30 to about
age 44 can date women as young as 18 or close to it. It’s not
a problem.
At age 45 or so, dating VYW as young as 18 or 19 starts to

get a little more difficult and resistance rises, but only a
somewhat. Dating women in their early or mid twenties is
still very easy.
By a man’s late 40s it gets a little tougher. Things start

getting really difficult for attracting VYW in a man’s mid to
late 50’s unless he starts throwing money around. (Which
we are not doing to do here. This book is how to attract and
date younger women without having to do that. Most my
first dates with younger women whom I end up having sex
with cost me zero dollars.) Again, dating women in their
mid to late twenties is still quite easy.
I’m talking about girls who are specifically 18 or 19 years

old. Once you move women’s ages up over the age of 22 or
so, things get easier. I know several men in their late 40s
and even early 50s who are dating women in their early 20s
without a problem.
Therefore if I were to make some generalizations about

men’s ages vs. the ages of younger women, it would look
like this:
Men Age 30 – 39: Very easy to date VYW of any age

(provided you do it right).
Men Age 40 – 44: Easy to date VYW age 20 and older.

VYW younger than 20 doable but a little more difficult.
Men Age 45 – 49: Somewhat easy to date VYW age 22 and

older. VYW younger than 22 doable but more difficult.
Women age 25 and older are very easy.
Men Age 50+: VYW more difficult but still doable. Larger
numbers required to get results. Women age 25 and older
still very easy for men in their early 50s.
Again, this is for men who do everything right, and most

older men do everything wrong when it comes to younger
women. Of course, this is all just a generalization. I do
know of men in their 50’s who have sex with 18 and 19
year-olds who do not throw a bunch of money around like
Hugh Hefner. I plan on being one of them someday.
They’re just more rare.
Chapter Two
The Three Types Of Younger Women
Not all VYW are the same. There are huge differences
between them. This was one of the things that really struck
me when I first started dating VYW.
Some young women are literally disgusted at the thought of

having sex with a man any more than about four or five
years older than they are. Other young girls have been
fantasizing about getting nailed by a much older man their
entire lives, and have been secretly waiting for one to come
along who is strong, confident, and not creepy. Still other
VYW have never given the issue of age any thought…they
could go there perhaps, but they don’t need to.
It is important, therefore, to break out VYW into three

distinct types.
Type One VYW
Type one girls are VYW (and remember, “VYW” means

women age 18 to 23) who are simply disgusted at the
thought of being sexual with older men. They are adamant
about it. The thought of sex with a man more than just a few
years older than her repulses her heavily.
There could be many reasons for this.
Sometimes type ones have younger, good-looking fathers,

and having sex with a man just a little older is too much like
having “sex with dad, ew!” This is very likely the reason if
you are older than her father and she resists you strongly.
Other type ones are simply immature for their age. The
concept of older men not only turns them off, but frightens
them as well. No matter how good-looking, fun, cool, or
confident an older man is, they simply cannot conceive of
sex with him. He’s just too old, and therefore, too alien.
Yet other type ones are just very, very picky. They have the
image of the “perfect guy” and that guy is a very specific
age, ruling out any men older than that.
About 30% of VYW in society are type ones. Your goal

with type one girls is to:
1. Identify them as quickly as possible.
2. Drop them as quickly as possible so you can move on

to other women.
Once you determine a VYW is a type one (and it will be

usually be very obvious!) you need to drop her fast and
MOVE ON. Working on her, trying to seduce her, trying to
change her mind, all of these things are a complete and total
waste of your time. It will not happen with her. Even if she
gets drunk, she’s not going to touch you. You cannot
change her mind. She’s a type one.
This is a good thing. I like type ones because they do not

waste my time. As soon as I determine a VYW is a type
one, I thank her for her time, drop her out of my life, and
move on to other women.
You should do the same.
Type Two VYW
Ah, type twos. My favorite.
Type two VYW are the polar opposite of type ones. While
type ones are disgusted at the thought of older men, the
thought of getting nailed by a much older man gets a type
two wet. Literally.
Type two girls are massively attracted to much older men in

powerful ways. They have always been that way, usually
starting at puberty. Type two girls are those girls who stared
starry-eyed at their algebra teacher during high school, while
all the other girls were flirting with the cute football players.
These are the girls who had constant sexual fantasies about
their teachers, next-door-neighbors, father’s friends, or dads
who hire them for babysitting jobs. While most VYW are
excited about guys like Justin Beiber and Chris Evans, type
twos are fantasizing about guys like Bruce Willis and
Morgan Freeman. Most VYW are excited when they see
buff guys with their shirts off, but type twos are excited
when they see guys in suits.
Some type twos, most in fact, don’t advertise this desire.

They keep it quiet to all but their closest friends, and even
then it’s considered a big secret. Other type twos are more
than open regarding their desire for older men, and actually
can’t wait to show off their 42 year-old boyfriend to their
other teenage girlfriends.
Most type twos are very turned off by boys their age, and
avoid dating them if at all possible, unless they feel they
“have to” because they have no other choice. Many type
two VYW feel trapped by the feeling that only boys their
age, whom they hate, are sexually available to them.
If a VYW’s last few boyfriends have all been way older than
her, this is a telltale sign she’s a type two.
Type two girls, both the secret and overt kinds, are the types
of women you’re going to be working with the most. As
long as you do everything right, these women are easy. I
mean that in every sense of the word, not just sexually. You
are (hopefully) the older man she’s been dreaming about her
whole life. She is just waiting for you to come into her life
and sweep her off her feet in a confident, non-needy, and
non-creepy way, that magical way the boys her age are
incapable of doing.
Type twos represent about 20% of the VYW population at

most. That means most VYW you approach are not going to
be one of them. That’s okay. 20% is more than enough as
long as you’re putting in the numbers (which we’ll talk
about in detail soon). Plus, not all of your hopes need to be
with the type twos. There’s one more type of VYW…
Type Three VYW
If 30% of VYW are type ones and 20% are type twos, that
leaves at least 50% for the rest. These VYW are type threes.
Type threes are simply VYW who don’t care about age one
way or another. They really have never thought about it,
either positively or negatively. When they see a man, they
are focused on attributes other than age. If he’s attractive to
her and does all the right things, she’ll go there, regardless of
his age (more or less). If not, she won’t.
That does not mean that type threes are easy free game like
type twos. Type threes present several obstacles:
1. Like all women, type threes are very concerned about

what other people think about them. Dating a man 20
years older than her might be okay with her, but she
may feel that might look weird to her
friends/family/parents/etc. This may cause some
serious resistance to the concept (and thus requires you

to be on your game as well as be more discreet).
2. Unlike most type twos, the vast majority of type threes

have no experience dating (or having sex with) older
men at all. If you have sex with her, you’ll likely be
her first “older guy”. That means it’s outside of her
comfort zone. For this reason, type threes require
more solid “game” and work to get to the point where
they will have sex with you, much less date you in any
sort of relationship context. No, they will not resist
you on the basis of your age like a type one will, but
there will usually still be some sort of resistance you
will need to overcome. It will not be a “do everything
right and it’s a slam dunk” like with a type two.
3. Unlike type twos, type threes do enjoy dating guys

their own age. That means there way, WAY more
competition for you; the type competition you’ll never
have to worry about with a type two. Every time I’m
done dating a type three VYW, she always goes right
back to dating boys her own age. Remember, type
threes don’t care about age. They’ll date a 20 year-old
guy just as happily as they’ll date a 38 year-old guy.
Perhaps more so, since the 20 year-old dude is more in
her comfort zone.
Don’t worry though. I devote an entire chapter in this book

on how to close on type threes. They just require a little
more patience and work than type twos. Moreover, they
require more time. When I have sex with a type three, it
almost always requires more of my time to get her
comfortable with the concept than a fast lay with a type two.
This is normal and to be expected.
To review, here are the three types of VYW and your default
actions with each:
Type Ones – Zero odds of success. Identify and screen out

as soon as possible.
Type Twos – Proceed strongly and fast. High odds of

success.
Type Threes – Proceed carefully and gently. Medium odds

of success.
We’ll cover all of the above. For now, it’s important to get
the definitions of the three types down, because I refer to
them often.
Chapter Three
The Necessary Frame To Have
In my primary dating ebook, I talk about how important the

twin qualities of confidence and outcome independence are
to your ability to attract and keep women your life. As an
older man working with much younger women, these traits
are even more important than when working with women
your own age (for reasons I’ll describe in a minute).
The good news is that theoretically, as an older guy, you

already should have a decent quantity of both confidence
and outcome independence. I work with a lot of guys in the
seduction business, and the difference between guys in their
early 20’s and guys in their late 30’s is often night and day.
Younger men are often raging with neediness, loneliness,
drama-queen behavior, and a strong need for acceptance.
Older men often have these negative traits as well, but
usually not nearly as much.
As an older man, you need to take all of your experiences

and successes and hone this into a powerful sense of
confidence and outcome independence. It is absolutely
critical you demonstrate these two qualities with VYW, or
nothing you will learn in these books will help you much.
I’m going to briefly describe confidence, outcome

independence, and a third trait you’ll need: non-creepiness,
in a minute. First you need to clearly understand why these
three traits are not only necessary, but more necessary for
VYW than with other women.
The Life Of The Hot Younger Woman
VYW live a different life than older women. I’ll use an

example by comparing a typical hot 28 year-old with a
typical hot 18 year-old.
On the surface, the smoking hot 28 year-old woman and the

hot 18 year-old girl appear to move through life about the
same. They’re both hot, and they know it. They both dress
hot and present themselves well. They both get an extreme
amount of attention from men.
However if you look deeper, strong differences emerge.
The 28 year-old gets hit on by men all the time, sure. But
men are not throwing themselves at her, propositioning for
sex constantly. They can’t, because likely she knows these
men in the workplace where they’d get fired if they pulled
that. Other men around her are going to be her age or older,
which means their moves towards her are going to be more
classy and less overt. Her access to men is
compartmentalized into times only when she’s not working
on her responsibilities in life. Most of her time is taken up
by her job, extended family, school, the gym, and her
children if she has them (which statistically speaking she
most likely does).
The 18 year-old’s situation is completely different. Unlike

the hot 28 year-old, the hot 18 year-old is constantly
surround by horny younger men who are constantly telling
her how hot she is, how big her tits are, how beautiful she is,
and how much they want her to move in with them. On top
of this, she is getting a constant barrage of sexual
propositions from these horny bastards. She is being asked
for sex on almost a daily basis, and by multiple men. Since
younger men usually have very poor game, often she’s even
begged for it.
While the 28 year-old is at work or college or the gym or

taking care of children, the 18 year-old is hanging out at
malls, flirting with guys downtown, and having sex with
guys at parties. Men are constantly around her,
complimenting her, groping her, and kissing her ass.
It gets even worse. The hot 28 year-old would never tolerate

this behavior. She’s used to men fawning all over her and
while sometimes she likes the attention, often she tires of it
and it annoys her. If a man actually makes a sexual
comment, she will often actually get upset.
The 18 year-old? Hell no! She LOVES all this immature

attention from needy younger men. It’s all new and exciting
to her, and she drinks it up with relish. This is even more
intense if she’s a late bloomer, and a lot of very hot VYW
are. I’ve dated many 18 and 19 year-olds who were ugly
ducklings at age 15 or 16 and then suddenly blossomed,
getting big boobs, losing weight, growing out their hair, and
going blonde. By the time they hit 18, they’re suddenly
gorgeous. These women LOVE every bit of immature,
stupid sexual attention they get from men (even if they
complain about it in a joking way).
So in the middle of all this comes you. You are out on a

date with a hot 18 year-old, and you start telling her how
pretty she is, how cool and fun she is, and how she should
“just come back to your place”. Will that work? Are you
being ANY different than the last 50 guys who have tried to
have sex with her?
The answer is of course, no. Kissing a woman’s ass like that

might work if she’s 33 years old. Maybe. But if she’s a cute
VYW, she’ll just place you in the “just like everyone else
who tries to sleep with me” category, which is a roundabout
way of saying she will not have sex with you.
Confidence and Outcome Independence
I hope you understand what I’m saying here. Your

confidence and outcome independence are of paramount
importance if you want to make younger women a part of
your life.
As I said, I’ve discussed these two qualities in-depth in my

other books, so I’m just going to summarize them here.
Confidence means that you are always relaxed, happy, calm,

not nervous, strong, and have no problem issuing orders and
preferences to a woman you’re sitting across from. It means
your body language is always strong and relaxed. Your
walk is bold and straight, perhaps even with a swagger.
Your eye contact is strong but not weird, your stomach in,
your chest out. You are not phased by anything that
happens. The world is your oyster.
Outcome independence means you literally do not care how

the interaction may end up. If you’re on a first date with
super ultra hot 20 year-old, you’d like to have sex with her
of course, but if you don’t, you don’t care at all. If you end
up sleeping with her, great. If she calls you an asshole and
storms out of the coffee shop, that’s fine. If she tells you
you’re the most amazing man she’s ever met, that’s equally
fine. It’s all fine. You don’t care. Regardless of what
happens with this one woman, you know there are thousands
of other hot women out there, right around the corner, and if
she doesn’t work, you’re on to the next hot babe on the list.
Outcome independence is probably the most attractive

quality you can possibly have to women, especially VYW.
Just imaging being on a first date with that hot 18 year-old
from the above example. She’s used to men stumbling and
drooling all over her, and here you are, relaxed, talking to
her, not complimenting her at all, enjoying yourself, and

clearly not caring about how the interaction ends up. You
do this, she will be suddenly attracted to you and she won’t
even know why.
We’ll talk more about specifics on the first date with a

younger woman in later chapters, so if I just threw a lot at
you, don’t worry, we’ll get to it.
Non-Creepiness
As an older man attracting VYW, there is a third trait you

need that normally you don’t need to worry about. That is
non-creepiness.
You’ve probably heard about “risking creepy” when trying

to seduce a woman. That’s good advice. You should touch
a woman (kino) very soon and strongly and confidently
escalate to sexual activity as fast as possible (in most cases)
even if you think touching her “this soon” might make you
look “creepy”. This is a very effective way to get laid and I
do it all the time.
However! If you’re an older guy trying to attract a VYW,

this is an exception to that rule. “Risking creepy” does NOT
work with VYW and older men.
As a younger girl, she is already going to be on guard

against you as an older man acting creepy, especially if she’s
a type three (but this is an issue with type twos as well).
You being 20 years older than her (or more) is already
enough of an issue. You getting “creepy” on top of all that
will instantly derail the interaction and you’re out. It is
extremely important to be confident, outcome independent,
even sexual, but not creepy.
“How can I be confident and sexual without being creepy?”

you ask. I’ll give you some examples of confidently sexual
vs. creepy and you’ll see what I mean.
Examples of Confidently Sexual
• Asking her a question about the sexual prowess (or

lack thereof) of the ex-boyfriend she’s talking about.
• Musing about how you like to grab a woman’s hair

hard during sex, saying it with a calm smile on your
face.
• Asking her if she cums vaginally or clitorally while

taking about sex.
• Confidently talking about how you like bigger asses

on women and hate smaller ones.
• Confidently and calmly answering any sexual or

detailed relationship questions she asks you no matter
how personal, and getting explicit with the answers.
• Joking about sex or sexual issues (and your jokes are

actually witty and funny, not crude and stupid).
Examples of Creepy
• Clearly staring at her cleavage.
• Implying strongly that “we should go back to my

place” way too soon in the interaction.
• Saying “I bet you like big thick cocks!” and then

winking at her.
• Saying something sexual then laughing at your own

joke.
• Talking about weird sexual stuff, like S&M or fisting

or sex with animals.
• Creepy eye contact that is too strong, boring into her

eyes.
• Wild eye contact that is too weak, always darting your

eyes around the room as you talk.
• Clearly leering at other women while on the date.
• Body language that is “too interested”. Leaning

forward, getting into her face, etc.
• Being too eager to talk or to impress her, especially

regarding sexual topics (but others as well).
See the difference? Younger women are instinctively going

to have their “creepiness radar” on full-blast when they first
meet you. You need to dial down the creepy, needy sexual
stuff as best you can. The good news is once you start
having sex with her, you can get as kinky as you like.
Another way to describe this is to be sexual, but not horny.

Horny men are a turn off, and she’s well used to horny men.
Sexual men on the other hand are extremely attractive, and
that’s what she doesn’t see much of. It’s what will help
differentiate you from all the other men in her life.
A horny guy is leaning forward, leering at her, getting a

boner in his pants as he’s talking to her. A sexual guy is
leaning back, relaxed, smiling, and talking about sex and
sexual experiences in a way that engages her imagination.
Every technique we’re going to be talking about must come

from a place of confidence, outcome independence, and non-
creepiness. Otherwise, your results will be very spotty no
matter how honed your technique is.
Chapter Four
Your Age As A DHV
If I had only one sentence to answer the question “How can I

attract much younger women as an older man?”, it would be
this:
Be the man the boys her age are not.
Sometimes I will notice that older guys will go out of their

way to dress younger, act younger, engage in “young guy”
activities, and lie about their age.
I suppose there is nothing technically wrong with that, and

that can work, under certain conditions, if you are no older
than perhaps 35 or so.
It’s a mistake and I’ll tell you why. The reason a younger
woman is going to like you, be attracted to you, want to be
with you, is because of how you are different from the
young guys her age, not because you’re the same.
It’s a key point and a lot of older guys misunderstand this.

Does a 21 year-old girl want a guy who looks 38 but acts
like he’s 25? No. If that were the case, she’d just go for
guys who act 25 and really are 25.
A guy who is 38 and more or less acts like he’s 38, now
that’s different. Interesting. Unusual. Compelling.
“Forbidden.” Exciting.
Guys her age are kissing her ass, getting emotional way too
fast, talk like “gangstas”, and play Xbox all day.
You’re an older guy. Confident. Strong. Sure. Focused.

Successful. Controlled. Steady. These are powerful
qualities to have, and extremely attractive, not just to
younger women but to all women.
These qualities will attract the type two VYW to you like a
magnet, and make the type threes at least give you a serious
second look. However if you dress like you’re going out to
the clubs and talk like a guy 15 years younger than you,
you’re going to destroy all the qualities that attract younger
women to older men.
Older guys who go out of their way to act younger are really
just trying to score with the type ones. The problem is as I
said back in chapter two, type ones don’t want to have sex
with an older man no matter how cool or “young” he seems.
The type threes aren’t going to care at all about your false
young behavior and the type twos are actually going to be
repulsed by it.
I’m not saying you try to “act old” either. That’s also a
mistake. Too many older guys grumble about “that damn
rap music” and dress like old married AFCs. You don’t
want to act like one of her young guy friends, but you also
don’t want to act like her dad, uncle, or grandpa either
(though there are slight exceptions to the dad thing…we’ll
talk about that later).
You don’t want to hide your age or be ashamed of it. Your

goal is to promote the good qualities and advantages of your
age over younger men while diminishing the few negative

qualities of your age (if any!).
Here’s exactly how you can accomplish both:
1. Unless it’s part of a greater overall strategy, never lie

about your age. If you’re 42, tell her you’re 42 and
don’t shy away from it. (Am I telling you to never lie
about your age no matter what? I don’t like about my
age, but I do work with guys who do fudge their ages
a little and come clean about their age later in the
interaction. It’s one way to go, and it can work, but
it’s not ideal in my view, for all the reasons we’re
discussing.)
2. Don’t try to dress like a man younger than you. Dress

cool, but dress age appropriate. Next chapter we’re
going to talk about this in detail.
3. Be busy. Have a busy schedule. Make sure she

knows you have things to do. Men her age, even
those with jobs, usually have a LOT of free time on
their hands. You don’t want to be in that category.
David DeAnglo once said the immortal words, “Give

her the gift of missing you.” It was one of the most
accurate things ever spoken on the issue of seduction
and relationships. Give her plenty of opportunities to
miss you while you get work done in other areas of
your life. Let all the guys her age constantly bother
her because they’re bored and have nothing to do.
4. Do not tolerate drama or immature behavior from her.

Guys in her age group will dive right into her drama
and will fight and scream and complain and
rationalize and explain and argue right along with her
until the cows come home. As an older man, you
need to be above that childishness. If she starts

throwing immature drama your way, give her one
stern warning. When she acknowledges it,
immediately change the subject. If she does it again,
soft next her and go do something else with your life
while she cools off. I’ve devoted an entire chapter
(chapter fourteen) to drama management, but in the
meantime, remember this:
Drama is for younger men. Not you.
5. Avoid “young guy” vernacular. If you’re over the age

of about 32, you should not be saying the word
“dude” too often, and I better not ever hear the letters
“OMG” fall out of your mouth unless you’re clearly
being sarcastic.
You get the point.
6. Exhibit responsible behavior. Young guys are

irresponsible, older men are responsible, or at least
that’s how it’s supposed to be and that’s what
younger women are going to expect (and if they’re
type twos, be attracted to).
I’m not saying you can’t booze it up or have kinky

sex or occasionally drive really fast. Just make sure
you’re doing those things responsibly. You know
what I mean by drinking responsibly and drinking
irresponsibly. There’s a difference between when a
40 year-old guy gets drunk and when a 23 year-old
guy gets drunk.
Chapter Five
Fashion and Physical Appearance
We’ve talked about how you need to allow your age to DHV
you and not attempt to look or act younger. A key
component of this and of all your seduction efforts is your
style, fashion, and physical appearance.
The goal here is to dress appropriate for your age but do so

in modern styles. Pay attention to what celebrities your age
are wearing, and use that as a basis. Sources like GQ
magazine and Askmen.com are also good. Don’t dress
younger, instead dress cool. Those two things are not
mutually exclusive.
If you are severely fashion-challenged and have no idea

where to start, pay $100 and go spend an hour with an image
consultant. Alternatively, go shopping with two women
who are well under the age of 35 and have them give you
some pointers (this is the only time I’ll tell you to take
advice from women about anything dating-related).
On first dates with younger women, I will often wear nice,

jeans (not the baggy wrinkly kind), nice shiny business
shoes, a nice button-down shirt (usually blue) and sometimes
wear a suit jacket over that. I look good. I look my age.
Most importantly, I look cool, with the times, and like I
know what I’m doing. These are all the images I want to
convey.
Sometimes I will even wear a full-on business suit to the

first date if I get wind that guys in suits turn her on. This is
very common with the type twos. Guys in suits to them are
like girls in cheerleader outfits to us.
Here are some examples to get you started.
If you’re a guy in his 30s, here’s the Colin Farrell look:
Colin Farrell is in his mid-30s and always does a good job at

dressing cool while not trying to look younger than he is.
It’s a slightly more “edgy” older guy look and it works.
If you’re in your 40s, take a look at this:
Mr. Craig here is dressed completely age appropriate but

still looks very cool. Even though his clothes are nice he’s
still casual and relaxed. Notice his two top buttons are
unbuttoned and his sleeves are rolled up. Casual, cool, and
classy all at the same time. Perfect.
For you guys in your 50s, here are two different possible
looks, both of which work.
I can only hope I look as young as Liam Neeson does when

I’m in my 50s. Go back and watch his fantastic movie,
Taken. People don’t realize he was 56 years old when he
did that film back in 2008. The way he was dressed and the
way he carried himself in that movie was part of the reasons
he looked so damn good for his age.
Hair
You need to have a current, non-nerdy hairstyle. I didn’t say

you need to have a crazy peacocked hairstyle, I just said
current and non-nerdy. Older men tend to fall into the trap
of either not caring about how their hair looks or styling
their hair the same way they did when they were in high
school 25 years ago. Both are bad.
The easiest way to avoid this is to again, check out some

modern celebrities who are around your age and find a
hairstyle you like. Talk to an upper-level hairstylist for
assistance if you need to.
Gray Hair
This is mostly a personal preference thing. A little gray,

especially if you’re over 40, is fine, and won’t damage your
ability to attract younger women. A lot of gray likely will.
If you’re over 40, have a little gray, and you really don’t
care, leave it alone. However, if you’re under 30 and gray
or if you’re over 40 and don’t like your gray or if you have a
lot of gray regardless of how old you are, dye your hair at
every haircut. Most inexpensive haircut chains have very
cheap hair dye options for men, often under $15. This is
what I do. It removes 80% to 90% of the gray from your
hair in less than 10 minutes and looks great.
If you can afford full-bore dying that eliminates all the gray
from your hair, go for it. It’s important you think your hair
looks “young” so you can be confident in dealing with
women, younger or otherwise.
Balding
First let me state for the record that I have been clearly
balding since I was about 32 years old and I have had sex
with many younger women anyway, VYW included.
Having a small bald spot or thinning hair is not a make-or-
break deal with VYW, especially the type twos.
That being said, bald spots or clearly thinning hair still

makes you look less attractive to older and younger women
alike, thus going bald is still a bad thing in terms of your
physical appearance, and if you can see scalp on the top of
your head you are still going to lose points with women,
requiring you to ramp up your game and/or put in more
numbers of women you open. It must be addressed.
Here’s how you can keep your balding head a minimal issue.
1. If you are balding, the first thing you need to do is to

start a topical regimen to prevent future hair loss.
Products like Rogaine or Nioxin are both fine, and
there are many others. I recommend topical solutions
that you apply directly to your scalp, not pills you take
orally. Pill solutions like Propeica do work but have
way too many side effects for my taste. Do your
research, choose your option, and start using it daily.
No, these products will not re-grow lost hair despite

what the marketing says. What they will do is retard
the hair loss process and prevent or slow the loss of
future hair.
Also add vitamin B complex and vitamin B6 to your

daily vitamin intake. Vitamin B6 can help retard hair
loss and you must take B complex to absorb B6 into
your body.
2. Next, you need to keep a hair style that makes you

look the least balding. That essentially means you
have two options: a) shave your entire head like Jason
Statham or b) keep your hair reasonably long on the
top so most of your balding scalp is covered by the
longer hair.
The point here is keeping a reasonably short hairstyle

if you’re balding is your worst option and makes you
look the most “bald”.
3. Use products to reduce the balding look of your hair.

The absolute best one I can recommend is Nanogen
Nanofibres, a European product that is really amazing.
Google it and take a look. There are even videos
demonstrating it. I will usually use some of this stuff
on first dates and when I get my picture taken. It
really does make you look less bald without looking
weird. Take a look at it and if it looks good to you,
order a small bottle of it and try it out. It makes a
huge difference.
The ultimate solution to balding, until medical science

comes up with other options, is either A) elect to get medical
hair restoration surgery or B) use a hair mesh or hair
“matrix”.
Medical hair restoration is a surgical procedure where they

transplant individual follicles from the back of your head to
the top of your head. It is not hair plugs. I have several
personal friends who have had the procedure done and it
looks 100% natural; you cannot tell anything has been done
no matter how hard you look.
The downside? It’s very painful, extremely expensive, and a

massive hassle. It will cost you $5000 to $12000 to get it
done (depending on how badly you’re balding and who you
use). The recovery from the surgery is extremely painful.
You’ll be in serious painful discomfort for 10 days after the
surgery. In addition, your current hair will temporarily fall
out, so for a few weeks after the surgery, you’re going to
have to wear a hat or you’ll look like a mutant. However
like I said, after all that pain and expense, it does work.
A hair mesh or hair matrix (the most well known one is

“Hair Club For Men”) is where they shave the top of your
head but leave the sides, glue a very thin, porous mesh on
the top of your head with hair that’s been matched to yours.
Your hair then regrows, grows back through the mesh, and
combines with the mesh hair. It looks perfectly real, the
mesh never comes off, never blows off in wind, you can
swim with it, and women can touch your scalp and not tell
there’s anything there.
The downside? It’s expensive, though not quite as bad as

the surgery. A typical mesh will cost you about $1200.
Which is great, but you’ll need to go back in once or twice a
month to get your hair styled and the mesh constantly
adjusted. This can run you as much as $250 a month for as
long as you wear the mesh. (Yikes!) However my
understanding is this monthly cost includes all of your
haircuts and hair colorations, shampoo, conditioner, etc. So
if you factor that all in, it’s not as bad as it sounds. (I know I
spend at least $80 a month on haircuts, dying my hair, hair
products, etc.) I have also heard from guys who’ve had the
procedure done that the mesh can get a little itchy at times,
though these guys still rave about it and recommend it
highly.
Another slight downside is that a small number of people out

there can tell something has been done if they’re actually
looking for it and know what to look for. I’m talking about
people who’ve worked in Hollywood in the makeup
department or who’ve had the procedure done themselves.
But hey, that’s a really big “if”. I’ve seen guys with hair
meshes and I can tell you for a fact that not only can you not
tell they’ve had anything done, but often their hair actually
looks better and thicker than guys who’ve gotten the
restoration surgery (because some of those guys can still
have thinner-looking hair).
Here’s the bottom line if you’re balding. If you have darker

or more tanned skin and a reasonably trim face, you might as
well just skip all this crap and shave your head if/when you
get bald enough. Nothing wrong with that at all and for a lot
of guys it looks fantastic. However, for those of you who
are more chubby and/or lighter-skinned (like me), medical
hair restoration or a mesh may be the way to go. I’ve talked
to guys who have raved about both and recommend both
procedures. I myself will definitely have one of those done
very soon. (Haven’t decided which yet.)
Skin
Youthful, healthy-looking skin is the key to looking young.

Look at all the celebrity photos above. All those guys have
great looking skin, either because of makeup or because of
their skin regimen (or both). The better your skin, the better
your results will be with younger women.
Every man over the age of 35 who wants younger women in

his life needs to have a regular daily skin regimen to ensure
his skin looks healthy and youthful well into his old age.
A male skin regimen is made up of six components, applied

in this order:
1. An inexpensive oil-free facial cleanser, available at

any grocery store. Wash your face with this every
time you shower. (Which I hope is at least once a
day.)
2. A strong exfoliant to exfoliate your skin. Like the

cleanser, this doesn’t need to be fancy or expensive
and is available at most grocery stores. It should be
strong enough to actually feel the roughness on your
skin when you apply it. If you don’t, get a different
exfoliant.
You should exfoliate your face and neck about two to

three times a week, right after you rinse off your facial
cleanser. Don’t exfoliate every day; that’s bad for
your skin.
3. A good, expensive moisturizer with SPF protection.

Unlike the cleanser and the exfoliant, this stuff needs
to be good, expensive, high-quality stuff. You’ll have
to order this over the internet or buy it at a high-end
makeup counter or boutique. Make sure it’s high-
quality, anti-aging moisturizer with built in UVA and
UVB protection from the sun. I use Clinique
Superdefense SPF 25, however your skin may be
different from mine. There are several types of skin
(dry, oily, combination, etc). Talk to a makeup/skin
expert and have them recommend a good SPF
moisturizer that works best for your type of skin.
Apply your moisturizer every day right after you get

out of the shower while your skin is still a little moist.
Make sure to get your entire face, forehead, entire
front of neck, and all over your ears (front and back).
4. A good, expensive eye moisturizer. The skin around

the eyes is different than the skin on the rest of your
face, thus it requires a completely different
moisturizer. I use Clinique All About Eyes, but again,
you may need something different based on your skin
type. Apply your eye moisturizer when you apply
your normal moisturizer. Make sure the get all the
skin around the far corners of both your eyes with this
as well, where the first wrinkles tend to form.
5. A normal, cheap moisturizer that has strong SPF

protection, available at most grocery stores. This is
for the backs of your hands and your elbows. Apply
this liberally to the backs of your hands, backs of your
fingers, and elbows right after your shower.
(Technically you should apply this to your knees as
well but I usually don’t. You can also apply this all
over your body, but again I usually don’t; I’m really
not concerned with getting wrinkles on my thighs or
back.)
6. Make sure you are eating plenty of protein. One of

the reasons women tend to wrinkle faster and more
heavily than men is women eat less protein. You need
to make damn sure your diet consists of lots of protein,
preferably full-chain protein like the kind found in
whey. Your skin needs protein!
If you do those five things daily plus keep protein in your

diet, you will be surprised how well your skin will start
looking after a few days. I was looking at some photos of
myself from about three years ago when I had just started
my daily skin regimen, and I was shocked at how much
better my skin looks now, as a man three years older!
More importantly, throughout your life your skin will age

extremely well if you get a head start on this early, as in your
30s like I did.
If you’re an older guy over the age of 45 and already have

obvious wrinkles, you will need to add two more items to
your skin regimen: AHA cream and retinol. The above items
focus on preventing future wrinkles; AHA cream and retinol
clean up and repair wrinkles that are already there. Your
usage of these two items completely depends on your own
skin; talk to a makeup/skin expert to get their advice on how
much and when to use these two items.
If you actually have sun damage on your face, as in strong

discolorations on your cheeks or forehead that are darker
than the rest of your skin, consider getting them removed if
they are large enough or dark enough. They can usually be
lasered off for less than $500. If they’re small don’t worry
about it (though on your next physical with your doctor I
would confirm they’re aren’t cancerous).
Body Hair Management
I go into the topic of body hair management in great detail in

Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible.
I’m not going to repeat all of that here, however as an older
guy, you’re going to have more hair to deal with than the
younger dudes.
You need to make sure that you regularly address hair in

your ears and nose, on your back, the back of your neck,
backs of your hands, and tops of your feet and toes, if any.
How often depends on the person and how fast your hair
grows. I use two of those little personal groomer tools and
address my body hair once every two weeks. You may need
to do so more or less often, but the point is you NEED to do
this, regularly. Don’t slack off on your unattractive body
hair like most older men do! Women, especially younger

women, WILL notice and it can cost you some potential lays
and/or ongoing relationships!
The Bottom Line
There’s looking older and there’s looking old. Looking

older is good. Looking old is bad. Younger women are
attracted to older men. They do NOT want to have sex with
old men. Get what I’m saying?
The bottom line to personal appearance in terms of gaming

younger women is dating a much older man is already a
stretch for her. You make this stretch “longer” and more
apparent if you look old. You want to avoid looking old and
focus on older as much as possible to make it easier for her
to say yes to you.
Chapter Six
Where And How To Meet Younger

Women
There are many places and contexts in which you can meet
younger women even if you have no younger women in your
normal day-to-day life.
I’m like most guys my age. I work in a business where the

vast majority of people are my age or older. Rarely are there
any hot 19 year-old girls in the places I work. My social
circle (outside of my seduction / dating life) is the same. It’s
mostly made up of middle aged married people, not young
hotties.
That means you’re going to have to go out of your way to

meet younger women. If you’re familiar at all with the
seduction community / dating industry already, I’m not
telling you anything you don’t already know, and perhaps
you may already have at least a basic handle on the different
ways and methods to meet women.
Whenever we talk about meeting women (of any age), we

have to talk about game styles. Every method of possibly
meeting and/or seducing a woman happens in one of four
different game style categories: daygame, night game, social
circle game, and online game. There may be a few more
categories you can think of but I’m betting they’ll all fall
into one of those primary four categories.
In this chapter I’m going to overview all four game styles in

terms of older men meeting much younger women. I’ll go
into detail regarding some of the styles in later chapters.
Your mission is to choose one style of game from the four

types and focus 100% on that style until you get good at
meeting younger women using that style. A common
mistake guys make is focusing on many (or all!) of the four
game styles at once.
No.
Pick one, focus on it, and get good at it. Then once you’re
getting laid all you like from that one style, if you still want
to try a new style, then go ahead. This is exactly what I did
and it’s the fastest way to get from “zero to good”.
Daygame
Daygame is where you meet women during the day in

normal places where one would not be expected to “pick up
chicks”. That would include the grocery store, mall,
bookstore, or even out on the street (“street game”, the
hardest type of daygame there is).
I have met and had sex with VYW using daygame, and did it
for a while until I shifted my focus completely to online
dating (“online game”). Daygame is a great way to meet
women, especially if staying up late in the evening is not an
option for you.
In terms of meeting younger women via daygame, there’s

really only one place you need to worry about: the local
mall. Almost every successful pickup I’ve had with a
younger woman via daygame was at a mall.
Second to malls, general downtown areas are also good,

especially during the summer months but year-round any
time after about 4:00pm on weekdays and noon on
weekends. You probably already know the general areas in
the city you live where younger people spend time. These
can be just as target-rich as your local mall, if not more so.
The downside to downtown daygame versus mall daygame

in terms of meeting VYW is that when “hanging out
downtown”, younger women will often be accompanied by
younger men. At the mall, this is often less of an issue.
We’ll be discussing VYW daygame in detail in chapters

eight and nine.
Night Game
Night game is meeting women during evening hours

(usually late evening hours) at dance clubs, bars, lounges,
and similar. This is the most popular style of “game” in the
seduction community / dating industry by far.
If you’re an older guy, I’m going to assume that night game

is not the ideal style for you for the reasons I’m about to
describe. I personally avoid night game for a number of
reasons, some of which may apply to you and some may not:
1. Successful night game, where you are actually getting

laid, usually requires you to stay out late into the
evening, well past midnight. The problem is, I work
the next morning. Staying out to 2am on a Tuesday
night in order to get laid when I have client meetings
the next morning is not a good idea for my financial
life (or overall life).
2. I’m too old for most night game venues. Once you hit
your mid 30s you’re going to start looking a little out
of place at most dance clubs. This becomes a hard

reality once you’re well into your mid 40s. The
exception would be if you’re a musician, celebrity,
movie producer, or other “personality”.
Am I generalizing? Sure. Is it possible to be a well

dressed, confident 49 year-old and walk into a club
and have sex with some 22 year old girl? Sure it is,
and I’ve seen things like this happen in larger, hipper
cities, especially if the man is really good-looking.
However in my opinion that’s still an uphill battle and
there are much easier ways to attract VYW into your
life.
3. I don’t like the club atmosphere. I hate the loud

music, big male sweaty bodies pressed up against me,
and drunk people screaming at me (happily or angrily
makes no difference to me) and the drunken morons
stepping on my feet or poking me with their elbows.
You may love the energy of the club atmosphere, and
if you do that’s great, but I can’t stand it.
Since I’m always dating VYW they sometimes drag

me to the clubs and I will go just to be nice guy, but
you’ll never seem me going to the clubs with the
objective to lay new women.
As you can probably tell, on the overall, night game (dance

club game in particular) is probably your lest effective route
to meet and lay VYW as an older man. I would not even
consider dance clubs an option if you are over age 35 unless
you are one of those usual exceptions I described above.
Bars and lounges are a little different, especially those that

don’t blast loud music. If you’re a guy who enjoys the
bar/lounge atmosphere, there is nothing wrong with using
those kinds of venues as a way to meet younger women. Of
course you’re only going to be dealing with women age 21

and older (usually!). But hey, if you manage to attract and
lay a cute 25 year-old you met at a bar, I have a feeling you
won’t be complaining.
For all of these reasons and many more, we won’t be going

into night game in detail as a specific style of game (nor do I
have sufficient experience in this area to render advice
anyway). However most of the techniques in this book set
can be applied to club game or (even better) bar/lounge
game if you choose to use those venues to meet VYW.
Social Circle Game
Social circle game is meeting and laying women you already

know or have recently met via other people you already
know. (“College game” would be one of the many subsets
of social circle game.) This style of game has huge
advantages as well as huge drawbacks.
The advantages are the women are right there. You don’t
need to “go out and get them” like with other game styles. If
you have a large social circle and/or you’re a very outgoing
social guy, you will often have new women coming into
your life, rather than you going to them. This is great.
The disadvantage is the women in your social circle already

know you, the good and the bad, or at least they will be close
friends with women who already know all of your dirty
laundry. This is a serious drawback, especially if you’ve
had any bad experiences or drama with other people in your
social circle (and almost always this is the case if younger
men or women are concerned).
My general advice for guys on social circle game is to treat

it in two stages.
Stage one would be the “bleed it dry stage”. This is when

you make a list of women and then use your skills to try to
have sex with every attractive unmarried woman in your
social circle except for those where it would be completely
inappropriate to do so.
Right after my divorce many years back, I made a list of

every hot woman I knew. Most of them were in my own age
group. Then I went to work. I was able to have sex with
almost all of them. It took me about eight months to get to
all of them and it was a hell of a ride.
The problem was at the end of those eight months and I had
exhausted my list, there were no other women to sleep with.
Therefore, social circle game was no longer useful to me. I
had entered the second stage, the “forced growth stage”.
Once you deplete your social circle, you need to go out and
add new women to your social circle, or else you’re done. If
you have hobbies or work in an industry that constantly
supplies you with new attractive women, or if you’re
currently going to college or have a similar situation, than
that’s fine. Likely you’re not in any of those categories.
This means if you want social circle game to work, you need
to be constantly expanding your social circle. This is a topic
beyond the scope of this book.
However! There is one very effective way to get laid with

VYW constantly, using a certain type of social circle game,
and that’s “referral game”. It’s something you can do once
you’re in a relationship (even a casual one) with a VYW.
It’s so powerful and so important I’ve devoted an entire
chapter to it (chapter thirteen).
Online Game
If you’ve read my other books, you know its no secret that

most of the women I have sex with via cold approach is
using online dating. So much so that I have two ebooks
entirely devoted to the topic of online dating. This applies to
women of all ages, including VYW.
I have had sex with and established relationships with many

VYW over the years using online game. You should
strongly consider online game is a key source for VYW in
your life, unless you wish to focus on daygame (which is
also a good method).
Meeting and seducing VYW via online dating sites requires

a different tack than with older women. We’ll cover online
game with VYW in detail in the very next chapter.
Choose One
I’ll say it again. Pick ONE of these four styles and master it.
Unless you are already very pick-up experienced and know
how to get laid, don’t go crazy and try to do everything at
once.
Chapter Seven
Online Dating With Younger Women
First off, if you choose online dating as your main method of

attracting VYW into your life, you should get a copy of my
two online dating ebooks, How To Fill Your Calendar With
Dates Using Online Dating and Improve Your Online Dating
Results. I would also highly recommend Dating Women:
Getting To Sex As Fast As Possible since it’s directly
applicable to online dating once you get a girl out on a date
with you. All three of those books will show you exactly
how to get laid using online dating, and almost everything in
there applies to younger women as well. Almost.
What I’m going to cover in this chapter is the differences

between attracting VYW online as an older man vs. doing so
with women older than age 23 and/or closer to your own
age.
More Numbers Required
I can tell you for a fact after years of testing and tracking
online dating results, if you’re a man over age 30, as soon as
you start sending email openers to women age 18 to 23 your
response rates drop, sometimes greatly. This is also true if
you’re emailing women in their mid to late 20s and you’re a
guy in his late 40s or above (though the drop is not nearly as
bad).
This is normal and to be expected. Remember, 30% of the

VYW you’re emailing are type ones and are going to be
disgusted as soon as they see how old you are, no matter
how good you look or how cool your profile is. Another
50% are going to be type threes, most of whom are much

more likely to respond to guys their own age before, and
instead of, responding to you.
That leaves the 20% of type twos and small handful of the
type threes who are actually in your target market of
possibilities. And not all of these women are going to email
you back either, for various reasons.
Now don’t despair. I’ve had sex with lots women in this age
group, starting when I was 36 years old, using online dating
and you can too. All this means is that you will have to send
openers to more women in the VYW category than the other
categories in order to achieve results. As a man in my late
30’s, my personal response rate for women age 18 to 23 is
usually around 8%, sometimes as high as 19%. If you’re a
better looking guy than me or take better photos (both of
which are extremely possible), yours may be higher than
this. The good news is that as long as you send out a lot of
openers, this is more than enough women to work with.
Under normal conditions, I will send out 15 to 25 email

openers once or twice a week for a few weeks in a row in
order to get plenty of first dates. If I’m focusing 100% on
VYW, I raise this to 30 to 40 emails once or twice a week in
addition to shooting out some openers here and there to
women I see who are actually online at the time. My stats
have shown that response rates and profile view rates are
higher if you send openers to women who are online the
moment you send them, and VYW aren’t any different.
Bottom line, be prepared to send out more openers than you

are typically used to and expect lower response rates. It’s
normal and still very workable. Don’t let it concern you.
For you much older guys, as in guys in your mid 40s or 50s,
if the online approach seems too tedious or out of your reach
for women as young as 18 or 19, simply raise your target age

to 24 to 26 year-olds focusing purely on them (and going
slightly older if you like). I can tell you for a fact that
women in that age group have much less of a problem dating
guys in their late 40s or 50s than do legal teenagers. I
personally know several men age 50+ who have girlfriends
in their mid 20s, many of whom met them via online dating.
Ignore Negative Responses From The Type Ones
As we talked about back in chapter twp, the type ones who

receive your opener are going to be disgusted, perhaps even
angry. You are going to receive some negative responses
from some of these girls. “Dude what the hell are you
thinking I’m 19!” and similar.
If you’re getting a response like that, she’s a type one. And

what do we do with type ones? Ignore them and move on.
Delete her email, don’t give it another thought, and keep on
sending out openers. Believe me, for every chick who sends
you a nasty response online there will be another one just as
young, just as hot, who’s going to be excited you sent her an
email.
Do not let the few negative responses you get sway you.
They’re type ones. They’re meaningless.
More Time Before Date Pitch
As you might imagine, being a much older man talking to

VYW online requires a little more care and a little more
hand-holding than with older women. Under normal
conditions, you want to qualify a new prospect online then
pitch the first date as fast as possible, since going into
conversation-mode online with a gal just raises the odds of
you suddenly not hearing from her ever again.
Online, this approach often does not work with VYW and
older guys, especially with the type three girls. You usually
will have to exert a little more care and a little less
forcefulness, even if the gal you’re talking to is a type two.
Of course, often you won’t even know which category she’s
in at this point, making all of this caution a little more apt.
The best way to do this, if you’re able, is to exchange three

or four messages then simply IM her on the dating site’s IM
feature. Have a very light conversation there for about 20
minutes or so, then lightly pitch the concept of meeting up
and hanging out.
The Younger Woman Transcripts ebook will show you

exactly what to do and not do when having IM conversations
with younger women online, with specific examples of how
I did it.
Low-Pressure First Date Venue
Do NOT use the word “date” when pitching or scheduling

the first meetup with a VYW online. At this point, you’re
not sure if she’s a type two or type three, and you don’t want
to push the envelope. Even if she’s a type two, you may be
the first older man she’s ever met in a dating context in her
life.
As I talk about in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As

Quickly As Possible, none of your first dates should be
actual “dinner dates”. Normally you want to meet up at a
cool bar for just 60 minutes, perhaps buy her a drink and
yourself one, then get the hell out of there and schedule the
second date where sex is going to occur.
With VYW, your first date needs to be even more casual and
low-pressure than that. Not to mention the fact that she’s
very likely going to be under the legal drinking age, which

precludes the possibility of meeting at a bar.
You need to frame it as not a “date” but just “hanging out”

and “having fun”. Very low-pressure. No big deal. Very
low-risk. Meeting up with a man on for the first time is
scary enough. Meeting up with an older guy is even scarier.
You need to make this as easy and as safe for her as
possible.
The majority of first-date locations for VYW that I had sex

with whom I met via online dating are/were malls, classy
delis, and bookstore coffee shops, in about that order of
effectiveness. If weather permits, outdoor parks also work
well, not only for first dates but for second dates too.
Malls are usually the best place to meet up with a VYW.

Malls are fun places to younger girls, but more importantly,
they are familiar places. You never have to twist a 19 year-
old girl’s arm to go to a damn mall. Most girls this age live
there anyway.
The best place in the mall for a meet is the food court. The
second best would be at a bookstore coffee shop within the
mall. In either case you can even get up and walk around
with her a bit once you’re done talking.
Another extremely effective place for a first online date is a

classy deli. Not a standard deli, but a nice one. Check
around your local area for some nice delis. Sometimes
upscale stores like Nordstrom’s have small, quiet, classy
delis inside and these work very well.
The third best option would be your standard coffee shop

like Starbucks. Consider this your fallback option of a mall
or classy deli is unavailable to you. There’s nothing wrong
with coffee shops per se, but they don’t DHV you as much
as a mall or classy deli. Also, they tend to put more pressure

on her since a coffee shop isn’t quite as “fun” as a mall.
People are also getting to the point where they know that the
coffee shop is the “default” place for meeting on online first
dates. We want to avoid this stigma if at all possible.
Another good option for first or second dates, if you can

make it work is parks. I have had several first and second
dates with VYW at parks that have resulted in sex. Sounds
crazy, but trust me, it works. Of course, there are some
logistics involved with parks. The weather needs to be nice,
they can’t close to early if you’re there in the evening, you
don’t want them too crowded, etc. Regardless, they’re
certainly an option.
Odd Hours
Unlike older women, many younger women work or go to

school at odd hours and are often only available to meet at
late hours. I’ve had many first dates with VYW that were at
10pm, 11pm, sometimes even midnight. Be open to this,
because many women will want to meet you at those hours.
It will not be the norm, but younger women, VYW
especially, will ask you to meet up at odd times more often
than you might think.
My personal rule that I talked about back in chapter six, of

of “not having to stay out too late for sex” still applies. If
you keep the first date to under an hour (which if you’re
following my system you should be), meeting her at 11pm or
similar is usually no problem.
This also means you know of several convenient locations

that are open that late. Check around and make a note of at
least three different 24-hour restaurants in your general area.
That way, when that cute 19 year-old wants to meet up at
10pm tomorrow night but has no idea where, you’ll know
exactly where to go (and remember, late night bars are not

an option for women this young).
Social Networking
Younger women love, eat, and breathe Facebook. It’s the

blood that runs through their veins. Many of them are also
heavy users of Twitter, YouTube, Tumblr, Flickr, and
Formspring. If you have no idea what these things are you
need to get on the internet, learn, and get up to speed fast.
You don’t necessarily have to be a user of these services, but
you should be reasonably familiar with them. You do not
want to be a date with a hot 19 year-old and ask “What’s
Tumblr?”
A decent Facebook is an absolute must. Likely you already

have a Facebook page but if you don’t, make one right now
and start making it look good. Though it’s not in open use at
the time of this writing, getting on Google+ is also a very
good idea. MySpace is not mandatory but there are still
millions of VYW who still use MySpace and if you want to
go full-bore with this, having a decent MySpace is also very
important.
What do I mean by “cool” Facebook page? To summarize:
• You have many pictures on your page of yourself

doing interesting things. Travelling, having fun,
parties, outdoors, indoors, etc. The pictures should
DHV you.
• You have a wall that has lots of positive, funny,

witty comments from you with responses from your
friends, preferably hot women.
• You have at least 100 friends in your friends list.

Many VYW have over 700 friends, some have well
over 1000. If you have less than 100, it will look

strange. If you’re starting from scratch, send out
friend requests to absolutely everyone you know as
well as the people who know them. Getting to 100
Facebook friends isn’t very difficult.
One note I would add is, in my opinion at least, you

don’t want too many friends on your Facebook
page either (unless you are a public figure or have a
very public job). People are starting to figure out
that people with hundreds and hundreds of friends
on Facebook are often people with no real life.
You don’t want to be perceived that way. (As of
this writing I have about 170 Facebook friends and
I consider that just about right.)
This is not a book on how to have a cool Facebook page but

those guidelines above are 80% of it.
You should get into the habit of adding every VYW you
meet to your Facebook page, whether successful with her or
not. I have laid many VYW that I was initially unsuccessful
with but who I re-acquired later via Facebook. It’s an
invaluable tool.
Chapter Eight
Daygame With Younger Women -

Part One: Laying The Groundwork
Daygame is an extremely effective way to meet younger

women. Younger women have less ASD and less social
inhibitions than older women, and are often very pleasant to
talk to during cold approach, even to the point of playful,
even if they just met you.
I’ve had sex with several VYW just by meeting them at

malls or downtown areas. Later I decided to shift my focus
to mostly online dating (remember my advice earlier about
choosing just one style of game and getting good at it), but
meeting and laying VYW via daygame did work and
occasionally I still do it. These days I consider daygame a
supplement to my online game (since I’ve already mastered
meeting VYW via online game).
A quick aside here. Daygame is a huge topic that easily

warrants an entire book on its own (and there are many
books out there on it already). There are many different
ways to do it. This is not a book on daygame, this is book
on younger women and older men. Therefore, in this
chapter and the next, I will only be talking about daygame as
it applies to older man and VYW specifically. That means
meeting younger women in a non-creepy, fun way, getting
their Facebook information, then contacting them later for an
actual meetup. I’m not saying this is the only way older men
can bring much younger women into their lives via real-life
cold approach; I’m sure there are probably many others. I’m
saying this is the way that I know works.
Daygame Pros and Cons
Likely your style of choice is going to end up being either

online game or daygame. This is because, as I discussed
earlier, night game is not an option for most older men
seeking much younger women (however if you really want
to make a go at VYW night game, please don’t let me stop
you) and social circle game is usually not something that is
long-term sustainable.
Online game and daygame are both good. Though I prefer

online personally, daygame may make more sense for a lot
of guys. There are a pros and cons to each. Here’s a quick
rundown of the pro/con comparison between online dating
and daygame in terms of older men and younger women.
Pros of Daygame Over Online
• You get exactly what you want. When you approach a

woman via daygame, you see exactly how she looks in
real life. There is no approximations or guesswork
like there is with online game.
• You can establish rapport much more quickly. Many

guys are much more compelling in real life than online
with a profile. I am certainly in that category. If you
have a compelling look or personality or presence that
does not convey well over online, daygame is likely
the place for you.
• It’s more “fun” for more social guys. If you have a

more social personality type, daygame is going to be
much more enjoyable and less tedious for you than the
online stuff. Really extroverted guys often tend to
hate online game.
Cons of Daygame Vs. Online
• It’s more scary. It takes serious courage to walk up to

strange women and start running game. Many guys
can do it. Many guys can do it, but do it badly. Many
guys can’t, or refuse to learn. Online dating requires
very little of this type of courage since all you’re doing
is sending out emails.
• It’s not nearly as schedule-friendly. This is the main

reason why I chose online game over daygame years
ago. Online game you can do literally whenever you
want, at any hour of the day, anywhere in the world,
and you don’t have to go anywhere or even get dressed
or take a shower. Daygame, no. You have to get
ready and then go somewhere. You can only do it at
certain hours. Etc.
• It’s harder to put in large amounts of numbers very

quickly. I can sit down and email out 30 - 40 openers
to new women, all of whom I find attractive, and do it
in less than 60 to 90 minutes. I’ve never seen anyone
put in these kinds of numbers in such a small period of
time using daygame unless you’re literally a maniac
approaching every woman you see, including the ugly
and average-looking ones.
However, this disadvantage can be mitigated if you

don’t mind having sex with more average-looking
women or if your positive response rate from daygame
is extremely high because you’re such a compelling
guy. Once could argue that though the number of
openers is higher with online game, the response rate
will often be lower. So keep that in mind.
I’ll repeat that online game and daygame are both very good
ways to meet younger women. The choice you make is
going to be largely dependant on your personality, lifestyle,

and schedule. Choose one style to focus on and get good at
and consider the other styles something to occasionally dip
your toe into.
Consistent Focus
The big thing with daygame guys screw up on is that if you

want to get good at it, it’s not something you can just
randomly do whenever you feel like it. This kind of activity
level is for guys who are already very good at getting laid.
If you’re in the learning stages and daygame is your weapon
of choice, you need to make a concerted, constant effort.
It is my strong opinion that if you want to get results with

daygame, you need to be out there at least three times a
week, several hours at a time.
We’ll discuss the best times to do daygame in a minute, but

whenever you choose to do it, you must put “sarging” time
in your schedule, at least three times a week, and keep those
appointments with yourself just like you were meeting with
your boss or an important customer. You will not get good
at daygame by just doing it whenever you feel like it. When
I was focused on daygame I was out in the malls every other
day, even on days when I didn’t feel like it.
Best Times For Daygaming VYW
The best times and locales for meeting VYW during the day
are as follows.
Malls
Malls are hands-down the best places to meet VYW for

obvious reasons. Most of my VYW lays via daygame
resulted from a mall meet. I will still occasionally meet
women at malls in my normal day-to-day activities,

especially during the summer when younger women are out
of school.
There are VYW at malls at all hours the malls are open, but
the best times to go when there are the most to choose from,
thereby using your time the best, are these:
Non-summer months:
Tuesdays – Thursdays, 6:30pm-8pm
Saturdays – Sundays, 1pm-5pm
Summer months:
Tuesdays – Thursdays, 1pm-7pm
Saturdays – Sundays, 1pm-4pm
In addition, during the Monday to Friday weekday,

especially during summer months, the food court of the mall
will be jam-packed with women between noon and 1:30pm.
In malls that are large enough, often you can just work the
food court during the lunch hour and forget about the rest of
the mall.
Downtown Congregation Areas
Every downtown area has one or many areas where younger

people congregate. It could be a city park, city square or
similar. There will almost always be large amounts of
people hanging around, talking to friends, eating, or
shopping. As I describe this you’re probably already
visualizing where this place (or places) is in your city.
If you’re not aware of where this place is, I promise you

your city has one (or several), unless you live in a small
town. Ask around or drive around and find out where this
place is.
Best times to meet VYW at downtown congregation areas

are:
Non-summer months:
Monday – Thursday, 1pm–7pm.
(Why not weekends? Younger women are around, but often
they’re “away” on weekends doing something else.)
Summer months:
Any day of the week when the weather is good, any time
after 11am.
College Campuses
I have no personal experience in meeting younger women at

college campuses, but I know for a fact these are fantastic
places to meet them; other men I know have had much
success there.
The best places in campuses are college libraries at just

about any time of day and outside in college park areas,
especially when the weather is nice.
If this is an area of interest for you, it would behoove you to

pick the largest college campus near you and scout it out at
different times of the day and different days of the week to
get an idea for when the most women are available. In all
seriousness, you could make an entire daygame “career” at
just your local college campus.
Places Not Suitable For Concentrated Daygame Efforts
VYW are everywhere, but most places are only good for
occasional, on-the-fly daygame, not concentrated efforts.
Grocery stores fall into this category. Yes, there are often
really hot VYW at grocery stores, but they’re always with
their mothers or boyfriends. Think about it. How many

VYW do you know who like to go to grocery stores by
themselves or with girlfriends? You see my point. You
often see a similar dynamic in coffee shops and bookstores.
Daytime bars and restaurants with attached bars are fine and
these places are all great for meeting more professional-level
younger women, especially those age 24 to 27. VYW won’t
be there.
Chapter Nine
Daygame With Younger Women -

Part Two: How-To
You’ve determined where and when you’re going to enact

your VYW daygame efforts. Now it time to get crackin’.
Your Appearance
Review chapter five in this book and if you have it, chapter
seven in Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As
Possible, and check yourself from head-to-toe before you go
out. You need to look your best. This is not only important
for your odds of women being attracted to you, but for your
own confidence as well.
Your Mental Frame
Review chapter three and then do a conscious mental

checkup on yourself. Confident. Outcome Independent.
Funny. Relaxed. Non-needy. Non-creepy. Your frame
must be well defined and crystal clear in these areas or very
little of this will work for you.
Your Objectives For The Day
Before you leave your home, you must have clear objectives
for today’s daygame excursion. They must be defined in
terms of specific actions or results. Either is okay
depending on your level of daygame skill.
If you’re brand new at cold approaching women, younger or

otherwise, some valid goals would be the following:
• Say “Hi” to ten younger women who you find very hot,
even if they’re with friends.
• Start up at least two conversations.
If you are a little more experienced with cold approaching or

not experienced but are a more social or confident guy, some
valid goals for the day might be:
• “Pull the trigger” on at least two women by asking for

their contact information.
• Open at least three younger women whom you find

REALLY attractive. (Since often it’s easier to open
women you consider uglier or average-looking.)
Once you get the hang of this, or if you’re already

experienced with cold approaching women in general, your
goal should be something like:
• Do not leave the mall until you have three phone numbers
or emails or Facebook addresses from younger women.
• Do not leave the mall until you’ve had at least three

quality conversations with younger women, including
kino.
You get the point. What you do not want to do is “just go

out and meet women”. That’s not an objective. It’s much
easier to waffle when your “goal” is to just “go out and talk
to people”. If this is your scheduled daygame time, you
need practice, progression, and (eventually) results. Even if
your goal is to just say “Hi” to 10 hot girls, that’s better than
a “goal” just “going out to talk to people”.
The Opener
There is a hell of a lot of written in the seduction community

/ dating industry about openers and pickup lines. Frankly,
guys make way too much out of it.
The best way I’ve found to open women during daygame is

either:
1. Ask her a question about something she’s wearing. It

can be clothing, shoes, jewelry, a hat, whatever.
or
2. Ask her a question about whatever it is you’re both

looking at in the store.
These two things are simple, straightforward, natural, and

non-threatening. No silly pickup lines or technique. I have
had sex with many VYW by just asking about the barrette in
her hair or about the sunglasses we were both looking at in
the store.
What I typically do is play “fashion dumb”. I’ll ask “newb”

questions about female fashion. Which is easy since I really
don’t know much about it.
Examples:
“Where did you buy that hat?”
“Is that hair tie made out of silk?”
“So, how can you tell which of these sunglasses are for men
and which are for women?” (I’ve used this one many times.
It always starts a funny conversation, namely because most

sunglasses are unisex.)
<hold up two hair clips> “Hey, I need a woman’s opinion.

The brown one or the black one?“
“Those shoes are funky. Where did you get them?”
You get the point. These openers aren’t fancy. They may
even sound stupid. That’s why they work. They’re very
non-threatening (something you need to keep in mind as an
older guy talking to a VYW). Also, women love to talk
about clothing and love to help “clueless” guys out about
these things.
The Conversation
Years ago I used to use a lot of canned techniques in my

conversations during daygame. Over time I learned that just
having a normal conversation was just as effective in terms
of actually getting laid. So I don’t really do canned routines
any more. I just have a brief conversation, get her contact
information, and leave.
The best way to do this is to talk for about a minute on

whatever clothing topic you started in your opener, then
make an observation about her. Start with the words “You
seem…”.
“You seem really happy. Is it your birthday or something?”
“You seem very educated. Are you in college?”
“You seem pissed. Did you get in a fight with your BFF
today or something?”
Then just roll into a very casual, fun, brief conversation.

Remember your frames from chapter three. Remember to be
confident, outcome independent, non-needy, and most
importantly, non-creepy!
Also, be as relaxed as you can and be funny. Make sure she

laughs, at least a little, several times in the conversation.
The Contact Close
You only need to talk for perhaps one or two minutes. Of

course, if she seems fun and into you, talk longer. But you
don’t need to, so don’t feel like you do.
Once she’s laughed a few times or it’s clear from her body
language that she likes you or is comfortable with you, it’s
time to get her contact info and get out of there. All you
need to say is something like “Hey, I’ve got to go. Are you
on Facebook?” If she’s a VYW, of course she’ll say yes. (If
you are outside the United States, use whatever popular
social networking site women use in your area.) When she
says yes, just say “Cool. What’s your email on there?”
Then just put it in your phone, or write it down, or whatever.
Lastly, smile big and say something like “It’s been nice
meeting you. You’re very different.” Then leave.
Boom, done. Nothing fancy or whiz-bang.
There may be times asking for her number to text her may
be better than asking for her Facebook. Conversely you can
skip the whole Facebook thing and just ask for her email.
Anything works, but I’ve found that Facebook is the least
dangerous and most “fun” option for VYW. Feel free to
experiment and do what you are most comfortable with.
The Half-Routine
Daygame, like all forms of game, is a numbers game. Most

of the younger women you contact close will never respond
to you in any meaningful way. This is normal.
Once you get comfortable with meeting women this way,

there are several techniques to raise the odds that when you
get back to her (Facebook or text or email or whatever)
she’ll actually respond to you. It’s what I call the “half
routine”. It’s an old technique that started with the old-
school pick artist Style. It’s one of those more canned
routines that I avoid these days, but I have used this myself
and it’s still very effective (sometimes the oldest techniques
work best).
Years ago when Style was teaching this stuff, guys would
complain that they could get phone numbers, but women
would never call them back. Style said that this was because
they never gave her a compelling reason to talk to them
again. They were just being a fun guy, and often this is not
enough. It’s better if she has a specific reason to contact you
again, beyond you being cool or attractive or funny.
One of the easiest ways to do this is to run a routine on her,

but only run the first half of it. Halfway through, you’ve
“gotta go” and you contact close her to “continue the rest
later”.
The actual routine doesn’t matter. It can be the running

patterns, “The Cube”, reading her palm, “The Lying Game”
(Google these routines if you want more info on them), or
even just something simple like saying “I need to tell you
something I just noticed about you. But I need to go, I’ll
have to tell you later.” Whatever. Stop midway, ask for her
Facebook, and tell her you’ll continue this with her later.
This really, really works well with younger girls. The point
is you give her a reason to hear back from you. If she has a
reason, the odds of you getting a response when you contact
later go way, way up. Often she will be texting you to
“Hurry up and tell me what you were going to tell me!”
Hired Guns
“Hired guns” is the term used for women who actually work
at the establishments you daygame in. If you see a cute 20
year-old working behind the counter at the lotions kiosk, do
you talk to her and get her contact info?
My general answer is yes provided you will not be hitting

that exact same location again often at that same time of day.
For example, if you hit up the cute girl at the sunglasses
store at the mall, and things don’t go well (or they do go
well but you never hear from her when you friend request
her, or whatever), then when you’re back there a few days
later daygaming again, well, things might be a little
awkward for you.
If it’s clear this is not going to happen or it’s clear you will
not be at her exact location again soon, then yes, go ahead
and hit her up! Often these girls are much more easy to talk
to since that’s what they’re trained to do. Plus, many times
these girls are really, really bored and are dying to talk to
someone.
Bonus Technique: Want a really easy, stupid way to talk to

cute girls at a mall and get phone numbers? Go into the
makeup sections of large stores, ask for some man-makeup,
and sit in one of those makeup chairs and have them put
some of that crap on you. While she does it, talk her up and
get her contact info. This is a great way to practice talking
to women especially if you are new at this. Back when I
was new to daygame I used to do this all the time. I got a lot
of good practice as well as some email addresses and phone

numbers.
In Closing
Obviously I’m just scratching the surface of daygame here.

I’m just covering the basics in terms of older men talking to
younger gals in a daygame setting. If daygame is your
method of choice for meeting VYW, it would behoove you
to research the topic of daygame further, keeping in mind
that regardless of what you learn, you need to keep the older
man / younger women frames of confidence, outcome
independence, non-neediness and non-creepiness.
Chapter Ten
First Dates and Day2s
In this chapter we’re going to talk specifically about what to

do and not do when you actually have a VYW away from
her friends and right in front of you, either on a first date or a
“day2”, meaning the second time you hang out with her after
meeting her in person for the first time.
In Dating Women: Getting To Sex As Quickly As Possible I

go over the first date in detail, however this chapter I’m
going to focus on the differences you will have to be aware
of when face-to-face with a VYW vs. a woman closer to
your age.
It should be no surprise by now that I’m going to tell you to

review chapter three for the key frames to keep in mind and
chapter five to make sure you look your best. If you look
dumpy, or old, or nerdy, you’re going to lose major points.
If you’re acting needy or creepy, you’re out, no matter how
good you look. Make sure you have both areas covered as
best as you are able before you meet up with her.
The Location
As we talked about in chapter seven, you’re going to have

your first dates at either a mall, classy deli, coffee shop, or
park. The point is to keep the location casual and low-
pressure.
If she’s legal drinking age, a cool bar is also a fantastic place

to meet her. Not a restaurant, a bar. A bar attached to a
restaurant is fine as long as you make damn sure you and her
hang out in the bar area, NOT the restaurant area where the
tone will be more “date-like”.
Make sure the bar is cool and not rowdy. Not a crappy bar,
and not a loud sports bar. It should be a cool, modern bar.
The cooler the better.
The First Three Minutes
Unlike other women you’ve met up with on a date, the

younger woman you’re about to meet up with will likely be
very nervous during the first few minutes especially if she’s
a VYW. This is normal and you need to expect this. More
importantly, you need to diffuse this nervousness in her as
fast as possible. If all she’s thinking about how nervous she
is, she will not be thinking about what a great guy you are,
and you two aren’t going to get anywhere.
The best way to reduce or eliminate her nervousness is to do

two things:
1. Don’t be nervous yourself. Yes, I realize that’s easier

said than done, especially if you’re new to this stuff.
You still need to put yourself into a frame of mind
where you are as relaxed as possible. Make sure your
mind is clear. Make sure you’ve had plenty to eat and
have drank plenty of water before the date. Make sure
you’ve had a good eight hours of sleep the night
before (that’s important!). Make sure you are walking
tall and straight, and are dressed in a way that builds
your confidence.
If you’re still feeling nervous after all of that, but a big

dumb smile on your face and hum your favorite song
to yourself as you walk to the date location. Yes it
sounds dumb, but it works.
Most importantly, you need to get into your head that

this is just one girl in a ocean full of girls who would
love to meet you and be with a man just like you. If it
works with her, great. If not, that’s great too, since it’s
just more practice for when you meet the next one.
Say to yourself: It’s no big deal. Because guess what?

It isn’t.
2. As soon as you meet her, act like you’re already old

friends. I really mean this in a literal way. Just say
“Hey” and start right in talking to her like you’ve
known each other for a year. When you read the
Younger Woman Case Studies book, you’ll see how
often I do this and how amazingly effective it is. If
you do this, you will be shocked at how well it works.
You’ll see her tense body language relax in a matter of
minutes. I do with on first dates with VYW all the
time and it works every single time. Fast.
This means your tone of voice is like that of a casual

friend, not a stranger meeting her for the first time.
This means your body language is relaxed, almost
lazy. This means you’re not saying things like “Hello.
How are you?” because that’s not what friends say to
each other. I hope you get this because it’s key.
Just say “Hey”, sit down, and start talking.
The faster she gets comfortable with you, the higher odds of
you laying her. It’s a one-to-one ratio. Women simply can
NOT have sex with men they aren’t comfortable with no
matter how attractive they may be, and this goes double for
VYW and older men.
Dialog
In terms of what VYW like to talk about, I’ve found there

are two distinct types of girls: “shallows” and “singulars”.
Shallows are girls who talk about vacuous stuff for hours on
end. These are the girls who will spend 20 minutes talking
about their hair, like the gal I talked about back in chapter
one. They love to talk about things like music, famous
people, parties, makeup, getting drunk, and hot guys. Deep
topics bore them quickly.
That does not necessarily mean shallows are dumb, though

some are. Many of them are extremely intelligent with high
IQs and even higher social intelligence. It just means they
like to discuss a wide array of shallow topics that directly
impact their lives as younger women.
Shallows tend to be fun, fast talkers. They switch topics

often and laugh a lot. The best thing to do with a shallow is
to just let her talk (which frankly you should do with all
women on a first date). Stay upbeat and match her vocal
tonality and speed. Be funny and make her laugh a lot,
which should be easy. Don’t try to get her into any super-
deep conversations about any deep topics. Keep the
conversation fun and light.
Singulars are very different. Singulars are VYW who have

one “key” issue that they love to get very deep into. Every
singular has a different “topic” they will talk about for hours
and hours on end. It could be relationships, or it could be
fantasy novels, or it could be acting, or it could be travel…it
could be one of many things. Whatever it is, that’s her
“thing”, and she’ll love to talk about it forever and get
deeper into it than you ever thought possible.
Singulars tend to be more moody, shy, and quiet than

shallows. They also tend to be very smart. It’s much easier
to engage in a conversation with a singular since she’ll
automatically focus on her one topic. However, you’d better
be on your toes, because if she senses that you’re not as
smart or perceptive as her, she’s going to disqualify you as
“not my type”. That doesn’t mean you need to know
anything about her topic (though if you do you’ll score some
major points and increase the odds of a lay significantly).
You just need to demonstrate that you’re an intelligent guy
with some deep thoughts.
Talking About Sex And Relationships
One of my core, tried-and-true techniques is I always

eventually start talking about sex and relationships on a first
date and with younger women this is no different. The
easiest way to do this is to just ask her about her last
boyfriend, assuming she doesn’t bring it up on her own
which she likely will.
Do not be surprised at the immature or even stupid situations

she describes to you about her past relationships. She’s a
younger woman and this kind of stuff is part of her
experience. She may go on and on complaining about
something that was clearly her fault or something very minor
in a past relationship. Conversely, she may tell you about
how inexperienced she is, and that she’s (for example) only
slept with one man in her entire life. Either of these kinds of
extremes are possible, so be prepared for them and don’t let
them phase you.
No matter what you hear, never get on a high horse and

disparage her about anything she tells you unless you’re
clearly being sarcastic (and are very comfortable with
sarcasm…otherwise skip it). As always, just relax and go
with the flow and keep her talking.
Kino
It’s important that you touch her. Her hands, her arms, her
hair, even her legs and her face if you can. As you’re talking
together, either just touch her hands or even tell her “Give
me your hand for a second”.
Remember, VYW have far, far less ASD than any other
women out there and are also extremely complaint in the
face of a confident older man. She will comply with your
requests to touch her hands, arms, etc. Sometimes I will
even say “lean over a little” and then I will touch her hair.
Men don’t realize that hair is a huge erogenous zone for
women. Touch it!
Don’t Kiss!
I’ve you’re not already familiar with my dating system, the

basic structure is to meet up on a quick and casual first date,
keep the date to an hour or less, then meet up on the second
date and go right to having sex as quickly as possible. I
have had sex with numerous women of all ages and have
been doing this for many years. It works. It works just as
well for younger women.
If you’re the kind of guy who is experienced in doing

“SNLs” or Single Night Lays where you have sex right on
the first date, that’s fine and you’re welcome to go for it, but
that’s not the system I teach. I have an extremely high
success rate for having sex with women on the second date,
and this includes VYW.
This system means that on the first date, you talk about
relationships and sex, you kino her, but you do NOT kiss her
or get sexual beyond basic touching. This is double-
important for much younger women and older men. When
she walks away from your first date together you want her
excited to be with you again, not regretting that she “just
kissed a guy she doesn’t even know!”.
Are there exceptions to every rule? Sure. There have been a

small handful of VYW I did make out with on the first date
who I later laid on the second (or sometimes third) date. If
you start dating a lot of VYW, eventually you’ll probably
run into one or two where the sexual fires are white-hot
between you from the very beginning. However the vast
majority of VYW I’ve had sex with had sex with me on the
second date after a first date of no kissing. It’s a very
reliable, repeatable system.
So don’t kiss her on the first date unless it’s clear she’s
begging for it. When the date is over, give her a big hug and
tell her you’ve got to run but you’ll text her later.
For the second date, tell her you’re going to hang out at your
place. That is where you’ll have sex. Because of the utter
lack of ASD, you’ll be surprised how fast and how easily it
happens.
If she balks at meeting up at your house for the second date,

just meet somewhere close to your house so you can drive
her there afterward. On the second date, this “no-kiss” stuff
does not apply. On the contrary, you should not only kiss
her but do your best to get as far as you can (ideally, to sex).
Younger women have so little ASD, you’ll be surprised how
easy it is, especially if you’re used to dating women over age
30.
Chapter Eleven
Specific Techniques For Type Threes
Type twos, assuming you follow the advice in this set of

books, are going to be a slam dunk for you once you get the
hang of this.
Type three girls are a little more tricky. The process of

getting to sex with type three girls is a little more delicate.
What I’ve always recommended to older guys to get started
with type two girls first, and quickly weed out the type ones
and the type threes. Once you get good with the type two
girls, the type threes aren’t really that much more difficult,
but tackling a type three girl when you’ve had limited
success with even type twos is going to be very difficult.
Overall, type threes will be less raring to go that the type

twos. That means you must be less aggressive with type
threes and allow the seduction to take (a little) more time.
This is normal and natural for the type threes. I have had
sex with many type three VYW and they are no less
“difficult”, just the your approach must be a little more
tender.
Less Aggressive Kino
With type twos, you can kino quickly, just like any other
woman, and she’ll love it. However with many of the type
threes, super aggressive, super sexual kino will scare them or
creep them out.
As I said way back in chapter one, under normal conditions

this kind of sexual aggressiveness is good, and most guys
have a problem with not being aggressive enough, but not if
you’re an older guy dealing with a type three.
I’m not saying you don’t kino at all. I’m saying you a) delay
the kino slightly, and b) keep the kino less overtly sexual in
the beginning.
As you’ll see when you read the Younger Woman Case

Studies book, there are some type threes where there was
minimal or even zero kino or kissing before the actual
clothing came off! Sounds odd I know, but you’ll get a
much better feel for this once you read that book.
More Time Meet-To-Lay
As you probably already know, I teach a two-dates-to-lay

system. With type threes and older men, you may very well
be looking at three dates before that lay, sometimes even
four if you’re new at this.
This is normal and often necessary. You are doing

something far outside her comfort zone here so you need a
little more time to get her comfortable. Expect this and
don’t be surprised by it.
Do NOT use this as excuse to keep dating any woman, of

many age, past three or four dates without any sex! As I talk
about in detail in my seduction ebook, going on dates with a
woman past about the third date where sex has not taken
place is one of the biggest no-no’s in the book. All it does is
waste your time and reduce the odds of you ever getting to
sex with her. Younger women are no different in this
respect! Some cases, they’re worse! No dates past about the
third or fourth date with no sex, or at least no clear sexual
activity.
Make It Normal
This is a very effective technique for laying type three VYW

that I stumbled upon completely on accident several years
ago.
If you make it clear to a type three that other VYW in her

family or social circle have slept with an older guy and
enjoyed it, she will be much more comfortable with the
concept.
So, it’s up to you to educate her. If she has any female

friends, acquaintances, coworkers, or family members who
are younger and have dated or slept with much older men
and had a good time with it, you need to let her know and
remind her.
The first three I ever had sex with a type three was the 18
year-old Asian girl I talk about briefly in chapter five of the
Younger Woman Case Studies book. Her close friend was
dating me and loving it, and heard nothing but good things
about how “older men are better” from her. So although she
was a hardcore type three, laying her wasn’t a big problem.
(This is also a textbook example of younger woman referral
game we’re going to talk about in chapter thirteen).
However you do not need to go to this extreme. I’ve

executed this method various ways, including:
1. Asking her questions about other women in her family

who might have dated or married much older men to
positive results, then had her expound upon it to me.
Not to educate me, but to her herself say it.
2. Show her other friends or acquaintances she knew of,

even if they were distant Facebook friends, who had
dated (or are currently dating) an older man and are

happy with it.
3. Get her to think back on an experience in her history

where she knew a younger woman with an older man.
This technique is not a cure-all. It will not change her mind

or make her do a 180 and suddenly make her sleep with you
or transform her into a type two. It’s just an effective way to
nudge her in the proper direction.
Ongoing Relationships Are Unlikely
I’m sad to say this, but as an older man, but carrying on a

relationship that lasts longer than about a month or two with
a type three VYW is unlikely. There are always exceptions
to every rule of course, but the majority of the time, once she
has sex with you for a while, even if she enjoys it, she will
eventually return to dating men her own age. The concept is
just too far out of her comfort zone. Societal norms are just
too important to her.
Now don’t cry. It’s not all bad. Here’s some of the good
news.
1. Like I said, there are exceptions. You might get lucky.

I just wouldn’t plan on it.
2. If you follow the open relationship techniques in my

open relationships ebook, it is easily possible to get
type three VYW to keep coming back to you sexually,
sporadically, for years and years via LSNFTEs. I’m
just saying consistent relationships with type threes are
unlikely, even monogamous ones.
3. Long-lasting relationships with type twos are not only

likely, but very easy to do. More on this in the
following chapter. Remember, type twos should be

the mainstay of your younger women diet anyway. I
consider type threes as a bonus. You should too.
Chapter Twelve
Ongoing Relationships With Younger

Women
Relationships is a big topic. Open relationships or

monogamous relationships, serious relationships or FB-only
relationships…an entire book, or even series of books, could
be written about any one of these topics. Clearly I’m not
going to tackle all of that here in this one single chapter.
I have already written an entire book about open

relationships, and I blog often about relationship techniques,
usually from the point of view of open relationships. So I’m
not going to attempt to repeat all of that here. Instead, this
chapter is strictly regarding having an ongoing relationship
with a much younger woman from the standpoint of the
older (over age 30) man. First we’ll cover the positives, then
we’ll cover the negatives, and lastly we’ll cover how
younger women operate in the four different relationship
types.
The Positives
In no particular order, here are the good things about

younger woman, particularly VYW, in ongoing
relationships.
1. Extremely flexible. I don’t mean they’re physically

flexible during sex (although many definitely are!). I
mean that in your relationship with her, she will be
extremely flexible regarding your lifestyle and who
you are. Work odd hours? She’ll work around it.
Already have kids? She doesn’t care. Don’t have a lot

of money? Doesn’t bother her a bit. You’re
emotionally distant, or an asshole, or cheat on her?
She’ll make it work. (Not that those are good things,
or things I recommend, but the point is she’ll work
around them.)
No matter who you are, the problems you might have,

or the odd life you might lead, she will work with you
on it. All she wants is to be with you. She doesn’t
have this massive checklist of boyfriend/husband
“must-haves” that older women constantly operate
under. It’s very nice.
2. Pleasers. Younger women, most of them anyway, are

constant pleasers. They want to make you happy.
They want to do what you like. They want to make
you dinner. They want to clean your kitchen or
babysit your sister’s kids.
Yes, older women sometimes do this to, but only in

the beginning and even then it’s sporadic. With most
older women (especially those over age 33 or so) this
“pleasing” is only a temporary phase before they
downshift into betaization mode. Younger women
will (usually) always remain pleasers, throughout the
length of the relationship (even if they attempt to beta
you later).
3. Highly compliant. Tell your 35 year-old girlfriend,

nicely, that you think it would be great if she cleaned
your house. Watch the reaction you get. I promise
you it won’t be a positive one. If you don’t believe
me, just try it.
Now tell your 20 year-old girlfriend the same thing.

Her reaction will range from neutral (“Sure. Maybe
next week.”) to giddy excitement (“Okay! You don’t

have any cleaning products here so I’ll bring some
over from my house!”)
Younger women have much less of this “don’t tell ME

what to do!” stuff than older women.
4. Constant happy, upbeat demeanor. One of the first

things you notice about younger women, particularly
VYW, as you start dating them is how they always
seem happy. Even if they’ve had a bad day or fought
with their girlfriends or their mom or their boss, by the
time they see you they’re smiling, happy, laughing,
and joking around as if nothing happened. This is a
far cry from the often stressed-out, touchy,
complaining demeanor older women are often prone
to.
This near-constant happiness is in my opinion one of

the greatest advantages of dating much younger
women over women your own age. It really makes a
guy’s life an enjoyable one. Try it and you’ll see what
I mean. I’m sure you’ll love it as much as I do.
5. Higher tolerance to open relationships (or, if you’re

that kind of guy, cheating). Not only do most
younger women not mind if you play around, often
you can use them to assist you in having sex with
other women. (We’ll talk about exactly how to do this
in the next chapter). Talk about a huge advantage!
The Negatives
I’ve actually devoted a chapter to the problem areas of

younger women (chapter fifteen). I’ll describe two quick
minor ones that weren’t “big” enough to include in that
chapter.
1. She will love the music you hate. Oh lord. This may
not sound like a big deal, but man, if you hate Top 40
music as much as I do, you’re going to really have to
steel yourself if you want younger women in your life.
If she’s under the age of about 27, she’s going to love
Top 40 music (or worse) and will constantly be
listening to that crap.
You have been warned.
2. Whining. VYW whine. It’s not drama, it’s not any

big deal, and as soon as you glare at them they’ll
usually stop, but they’ll do it. Sometimes I will get
VYW complaining to me that I have to work (and thus
not spend time with them) on, for example, a Tuesday
afternoon at 2pm. “OMG you have to work??? That’s
BS, just hang out with me!”
Maybe they don’t have a job. Maybe they have a job

but have Tuesday off. It doesn’t matter. If she wants
to spend time with you and you have to work, even if
it’s during normal work hours, she will put up with it
(as I described at the beginning of this chapter) but
there will be a little whining. Stay strong and it
dissipates fast.
(By the way, here’s a little pop quiz. Do you think

that logically explaining to her that “normal people
work on Tuesdays at 2pm” is going to work? What do
you think?)
VYW In The Different Relationship Types
As I’ve described in detail in my other writings, there are

four types of relationships. A quick review:
FB – Friend with benefits. You just have sex, that’s it. No

“dating” or romantic feelings.
WD (or MLTR) – A woman you do have romantic feelings

for, but have not promised monogamy to. You can have sex
with and romantically date other women as well.
LTR – A serious girlfriend (or wife) you are monogamous

with.
OLTR – A serious girlfriend (or wife) you’re in an open

relationship with. You can both have sex with other people
provided they’re just FBs and it’s “just sex”.
I’m going to tackle each relationship type in regards to older

men and younger women.
FBs
Younger women make fantastic FBs. Their almost complete

lack of ASD, their zest for life, their lack of relationship
rules, all of these things are 100% conducive to FB
relationships.
Two caveats to this.
First, many younger women tend to get oneitis faster than

older women. Just because she’s an FB and fully
understands it doesn’t mean she won’t start falling in love
you with hard. It can and will happen. Women in their mid
20’s in particular are notorious for lecturing guys about how
“This is only sex, okay? We’re not dating okay? You’re not
allowed to start liking me, okay?” only to start getting
serious romantic girlfriendish feelings for the guy just a few
weeks after saying those very words. Be aware.
Second, just like women of all ages, younger women do not

like other people referring to them as a “friend with
benefits” even if they themselves admit that’s what they are.
They can call themselves these things, but you can’t. Never,
ever refer to a woman as a “friend with benefits” even if
she’s called herself that. (I know that makes no sense.
Women don’t make sense.) When you’re pressed and you
have to actually verbalize what she “is”, she’s your “close
friend”.
WDs / MLTRs
A WD is a woman you’re actually dating and do like more

than just a friend with benefits. However you haven’t made
any commitments to her yet, you’re not monogamous, and
can still be with other women, even romantically.
An MLTR is the same thing except you pretty much never

have the intention of being monogamous with her, ever,
regardless of how serious the two of you get.
I have had many WDs and MLTRs of all ages, from 18 year-
old girls all the way to women in their early 40’s. There
really is no difference to MLTR management with younger
women vs. older women. I racked my brain, went back
through my notes, racked my brain some more, and I really
can’t think of a single difference (other than the possible
faster oneitis on her end we’ve already talked about).
Surprisingly, younger women’s sense of timing about when

things are “casual”, when things are “dating” and when
things should “start to get serious” really are about the same
as women of older ages.
Refer to How To Create And Maintain Open Relationships

With Women for more information on MLTR management.
Everything in there applies to younger women and VYW.
LTR
As you’re already aware if you’ve read my other writings,

monogamy is not something I endorse or practice, for a
myriad of reasons I’ve written about in detail elsewhere.
Therefore I can’t give you a lot of first-hand experiences of
younger women in monogamous relationships. All I can do
is relate what I have seen when other older men get
monogamous younger girlfriends.
The first issue is that of children. Younger women want

kids. If they’re in a serious relationship with you, they’ll
want them with you. That doesn’t mean they’ll want them
immediately, but it does mean they’ll expect them from you
eventually. If you already have kids she won’t mind, but
she’ll still expect you to have more. With her.
Having kids, the decision to have them, or more of them, is

obviously far beyond the scope of this book. What’s most
important is that you as a man make a solid decision as to
whether or not to have kids, and under what conditions you
will have them (or more likely, more of them).
As you already know, I do not endorse lying to women.

Therefore I do not endorse the concept of stringing women
along, promising that you’ll have babies with her “some
day” when you know damn well that you won’t. Once
you’re dating and things look like they may move in a
serious direction, Tell her flat out that you want more babies,
or that you don’t, or that you could but only under certain
conditions. Don’t lead women on.
The most important point here is that you need to expect in

advance that any younger woman in your life beyond the FB
level are going to want to have babies with you.
Vasectomy
All of this talk of babies necessitates a quick segue into the

topic of vasectomies. Most older women, particularly the
ones who’ve already had two or more children, love guys
with vasectomies, and you’ll do very well with older women
when you advertise you’ve had the procedure done.
However, there is a hard fact of life regarding younger

women that you’re going to have to come to terms with, and
it is this: If you tell a younger woman you have a
vasectomy, she’s gone. Very few younger women are going
to stick around with a guy who’s had a vasectomy even if
they only intend for the guy to be an FB. That doesn’t mean
they’re trying to get a baby “on accident” from you (though
some are). It’s because of their intense biology, Disney
fairytale desires, and woman-logic. A younger woman will
always want the option of having babies with a man she is
having sex with, and if you tell her on the first date (or
whenever) that you can’t have children, she’ll out of there so
fast a gust of wind will follow her out of the Starbucks.
I’ve slept with many VYW where literally the only question
they asked about me prior to having sex was whether or not I
wanted to have more children. Even if you answer “no”, if
they know you haven’t had a vasectomy, they’ll often
rationalize it and have sex with you anyway (“Oh, I can
change his mind!”) But if you tell them you can’t have kids,
the odds of her sticking around are very, very low. This is a
major deal breaker for most younger women.
If you haven’t had a vasectomy, you have nothing to worry

about. If you haven’t had one but plan on getting one, this is
something you’ll need to consider. (Even though I’m likely
done having children, I made the decision several years ago
to never get a vasectomy, for many reasons. You’ll need to
make your own decision.)
If you’ve had vasectomy, you’re in a tough spot. When she

asks about future prospects of kids, you’ve got three options:
1. Lie and tell her you’re able to have more kids. I do

not endorse or recommend lying to women, for any
reason, but it’s your life and it’s certainly an option.
2. Tell her the truth, and be ready for any consequences.
3. Tell her you’re ready to get the procedure reversed

immediately and want to have more kids. Again, I
would only tell her this if there’s some truth to it.
Stating this will work. It will be enough for her to
rationalize being with you. Just remember if the two
of you actually end up dating, she’ll hold you to your
promise. (Rightly so.)
OLTR
Over the last few years there has been one particular girl in
my life who has essentially been an OLTR (“Tiffany” as I
discuss in the Younger Women Case Studies book). She has
not quite been an OTLR, but damn close. I also know a few
older men with much younger women OLTRs and their
experiences have very similar to mine.
When a younger woman becomes your OLTR, or close to it,

or begins to sense it, because you’re behaving that way
(hopefully in a correct fashion like I talk about in my open
relationships ebook), her Disney fairytale desires or going to
go on overdrive. She’s going to talk about moving in
together, getting married, having babies (unless you’ve
already done those things with her) and how excited she is
about it and how wonderful it will all be.
She will still tolerate you having sex with other women, but
in an OLTR a woman will issue more “rules” surrounding
the practice. Younger women are not different than older
women in this regard, except that as I already said, they will
be far more flexible about it and less stringent about these
rules an older woman would.
The downside is a younger woman’s Disney desires will be

five times the magnitude of an older woman’s. Older
women have already gone through the pain and suffering of
marriage, living full-time with a man and all the negatives
therein, having babies, rising kids, divorce, custody battles,
and all that fun stuff. However (most) younger women
haven’t experienced any of that pain yet. To them, it’s all a
perfect fairytale fantasy, and they expect you to play your
part.
If things like living together, having more kids, and or

marriage are what you want from your OLTR, go for it. Just
make sure you take all the necessary precautions I talk about
in my free ebook on the subject of marriage and equally
importantly, never promise her monogamy! Living together,
having kids, perhaps even getting married (remember the
prenup!) are fine, but monogamy? Never! Not if she’s an
OLTR. Hey, remember, she’s a younger woman. She won’t
mind. She’ll make it work.
If there are aspects of the relationship you adamantly do not

want, you need to man up and not let her sway you. If you
absolutely don’t want kids, or absolutely don’t want to get
legally married, or whatever, then tell her and do not waver
when she begs / pleads / cries / threatens. You may lose her,
you may not, but don’t let the possibility of that loss sway
you. There are many other quality women out there…she is
not the only one. Even if you truly love a woman, never get
oneitis!
Chapter Thirteen
VYW Referral Game
One of the absolute gold mines regarding VYW women is

something very few men know about. It’s this:
VYW are far more forgiving, to the point of uncaring, if

you sleep with their friends.
VYW live in a world every everyone has sex with everyone.

All their guy friends have sex with all their girlfirends. I’m
exaggerating of course, but you know what I mean. If a FB,
boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, or perhaps even a close guy friend
of a 35 year-old woman has sex with one her her best female
friends, she will react with such anger that the act alone is
grounds for ejecting the guy (and possibly the woman too)
from her life forever, never to return.
However for 19 year-old girls, this situation is damn near the

norm. There’s nothing unusual about it at all. If something
like this happens, there’s probably a short but intense spurt
of drama, then two weeks later everything returns back to
normal and life goes on just like before.
You can take advantage of this little-understood fact…even

do it without the drama.
Take a look at this chart. It’s an actual repsentation of what

has happened with four particular VYW I dated, colored in
purple.
This chart is a representation of what actually happened with

four VYW whom I’ve dated (and in some cases, am still
sporadically seeing via LSNFTEs). By attracting and having
sex with four younger women, I actually ended up getting
sexual with twelve women instead of just the original four.
Here’s what I did. Using my normal cold approach

techniques (mostly online game) I attracted and laid four
new women, girls A, B, C, and D in the above chart. Then I
started dating them all as either MLTRs or FBs, as I always
do whenever I lay a new woman. (I don’t do one night
stands.)
Using “referral game”, I made sure to meet other women in

their social circles and seduce them as well. It worked, and I
ended up having sex (or getting very sexual with) seven
other women, most of them VYW but a few (girl U and girl
X) were older.
In one case, I actually did that again with one of those

“second level” girls, girl Y, and eventually had sex with one
of her friends, girl V.
See the power of this? I only had to take the time and effort
to “pick up” four women, but was able to have sex (or in the
cases of girls T and Y, get sexual) with twelve women.
A few other things about this chart.
• You’ll notice that sometimes the 2nd or 3rd level

women are older. Girl X was a very hot 40 year-old I
had met through girl B. Since referral game usually
will not work on women older than about age 24, girl
X was a “dead end”. Regardless, you can still get
younger women to “refer” older women to you. Just
don’t expect older women to do any referring. Their
ASD levels are too high.
• I was able to get a “referral lay” from a girl who I

didn’t even have full-on sex with (girl Y).
• I put girl A and girl Y together in order to score with

girl Y. We ended up having a threesome (and later I
ended up laying girl V via girl Y).
• You’ll notice some girls referred a lot, some referred a

little. And of course there have been many younger
women who never referred at all (they aren’t on the
chart). I only got one referral lay from girls C and D.
Girl A was better with two. Girl B was a gold mine of

referral sex, to this day I make sure to always keep girl
B around to so I can mine more women out of that
cavern.
This is the power of what I’ve started to call “referral game”,

a type of game that works primarily with women under the
age of 24. It’s a topic I don’t see talked about much
anywhere and that surprises me.
Referral game is a type of social circle game, but it’s not

social circle game specifically. It’s not about meeting chicks
at parties through other people you know and trying to sleep
with them. That’s just normal game.
Rather, referral game is the practice of very quickly

isolating, escalating, and having sex with women who are
friends with VYW you are already dating, usually with their
assistance. I’m not talking about threesomes, though
threesomes are sometimes a component of referral game.
You start having sex with girl A, and establish an ongoing

sexual relationship with her (FB, WD, MLTR, OLTR, it
really doesn’t matter what kind). After a while, it comes to
your attention that girl A is friends with girl B, who is really
hot (perhaps you saw a picture of her on Facebook, perhaps
you met her briefly while meeting up with girl A, whatever).
You target girl B to have sex with, often before you’ve even
met her in real life, and with girl A’s assistance (or even
without it) you meet up with girl B, who already trusts you
because you’ve been socially proofed and “endorsed” by girl
A, and have sex with girl B very quickly and with minimal
effort.
I am not talking about meeting girl A’s friends at a party and

start gaming them over time. There’s nothing wrong with
doing that of course, but that’s just more typical social circle
game. Instead, with referral game your only objective of the

interaction is to have sex with girl B and do it very quickly.
Not to hang out with her and have fun, not to cross your
fingers and fantasize about something someday, and not
consider her a possible back-up if things with girl A “don’t
work out”.
I am also definitely not talking about having sex with one of

your girlfriend’s female friends and then hoping your
girlfriend never finds out. That’s a recipe for massive drama
with your main gal even if you’re in a stated open
relationship. As with all of my techniques, I’m here to show
you how to avoid drama, not create more of it. Referral
game is (usually) very above-board. Both girls A and B are
well aware that you have slept with both of them. How
happy they are about that is a different story, and depends on
the nature of your relationship with girl A, but there is no
hiding or deception involved.
Considering real-world ramifications, drama-free referral

game is only possible under the following conditions:
1. You have not promised monogamy to anyone,

especially girl A. (An exclusive relationship where
threesomes are allowed might be an exception to this.)
2. You are dealing with younger women, generally

women who are age 23 or younger. You think those
over-30 types are going to be cool with you having sex
with their friends? Uh, no. If you don’t believe me,
mention the idea to one of them and watch what
happens.
4. You have a nonmonogamous EFA already established

with girl A and are able to convey at least some of that
to girl B. Girl A so she’ll go along with your plan, girl
B so that she won’t feel like she’s “hurting” or

“betraying” girl A.
The great thing about referral game is that it’s almost

literally no work. There are no phone calls, no emails, no
going out to sarge, no dates, no number closes, no
scheduling dates or day2′s, no flaking, no establishing
rapport (at least not really, you’d be surprised how little you
need). As long as you’re at least somewhat confident, have
a strong sexual frame, and have already laid the groundwork
with your solid EFA, it’s amazingly easy…easier than any
other type of seduction you’ve ever done.
It’s also very fast. I have no problem declaring it’s probably

the fastest form of game out there. I’ve had several referral
game lays that were literally under two hours grand total
from meet-to-lay. At least one I remember was under an
hour.
The only downside to referral game is that ongoing

relationships with the B girls are unlikely, since they tend to
view girl A as your “primary” or your “girlfriend”, even if
she’s only an FB. That’s a pretty minor downside when you
compare it to the positives.
As soon as I start having sex a new VYW one of my first

objectives is to figure out how to meet her other hot female
friends, if she has any. One fast referral game lay for me
eliminates the need to send out a bunch of openers online
and schedule a bunch of first dates. It’s an extremely
powerful and high-return use of your time.
How To Do It
1. Establish and maintain a nonmonogamous EFA in a

relationship with your main girl (“girl A”). You need
to establish an EFA a open nor at least a “not yet
committed” relationship before you start pursuing

sleeping with her girlfriends, otherwise you’re in for a
world of resistance and drama.
How to create and maintain a poly EFAs are beyond

the scope of this book. However I lay out exactly,
step-by-step how to establish and maintain the EFA of
an open relationship in my open relationships ebook.
The bottom line is that you never promise or even hint
about being monogamous or “exclusive” and you
never act jealous or needy when she hangs out with (or
even dates!) other men. There’s more to it than just
that of course; if you’re really interested refer to the
open relationships book.
2. As soon as you’re comfortable doing so, encourage her

to hang out with you and some of her female friends,
especially ones you think might be attractive. This
should be easy. Many girls will do this with you
anyway.
3. Target the women you find attractive who are not in

serious relationships and who seem enjoyable and
sexual. That means you’re avoiding married women,
women in a brand new relationship with a new
boyfriend, or virgins. You get the idea. If you’re new
at this, pick just one girl (“girl B”) at a time.
4. Casually let your girl A know that you’d like to have

sex with girl B. Do NOT make this into some kind of
big “talk” or big deal. When girl A is in a good mood
and you’re hanging out and enjoying each other,
casually mention off-the-cuff that you think girl B is
really hot and would love to have sex with her. Do
NOT do this while having sex or while being in any
way sexual or romantic with girl A. Do it when you’re
just hanging out and having fun.
If girl A is under age 24 (the younger the better) and

you’ve correctly established a proper EFA with her,
the response from her should range from mildly
positive, where she gives you some playful or sarcastic
remarks, to very positive, where she literally says
something like “Yeah, the three of us should hang
out.”
Keep talking to her until you get that “three of us”

response. If you encounter some resistance, you’ve
done something else wrong. Perhaps your open
relationship EFA is weak (or worse, you’ve destroyed
it by acting like her “boyfriend”), or perhaps you
asked her too soon (like only after a week or two of
dating), etc.
There are times where you would not tell girl A about
your desire to have sex with girl B. This would be in
situations such as:
• Girl A and B are related.
• Girl A and B hate each other or currently mad at

each other.
• Girl B has serious boyfriend or new boyfriend.
• Etc.
If this is the case, skip this step and all the following
steps and go down to the “Two Step Referral Game”
section below.
5. Schedule a time for the three of you to hang out. This

should be easy once you get past step four. Make sure
it’s only the three of you, not the three of you with a
bunch of other friends. Just the three of you. Also

make sure the meetup occurs in the evening and at a
location you can completely control, which ideally
means your home.
If girl A seems open to the concept of you being

attracted to girl B but is hesitant about actually
hanging out as a trio or if the three of you meeting up
never happens because of logistical or scheduling
reasons, then skip all of these next steps and go down
to “Two Step Referral Game” below.
6. Qualify girl B. Make sure she’s legal. Make she there

is no new exciting boyfriend in her life. Make sure
she’s a sexual girl who likes sex and has minimal ASD
(most VYW are in this category so that one should be
easy). Make sure she’s a type two or three VYW.
7. Make sure girl A is “on board” with you “playing”

with girl B. Do NOT go into specifics about what will
or won’t happen. Don’t start talking about threesomes
or taking turns or whatever. Just get her
acknowledgement that “it’s on” tonight. That’s all
you’ll need.
8. Pre-plan logistics. If you’re planning a threesome,

make sure you have all the logistics that you need
ready. If you’re planning a more one-at-a-time-in-the-
same-evening thing, pre-plan that as well. Lay it all
out in your head well before it happens and try to
anticipate any problems that may arise.
9. Close. Either have the threesome or do a take-turns

thing. Either works, and I’ve done it both ways many
times.
This is not a book now how to initiate sex or

threesomes. How to escalate to sex is explained in
detail in my seduction ebook, but I’ll give you a quick
overview of how I tend to do threesomes.
Always make sure girl A is your “main girl”. Give her

most of the attention. When escalating, don’t linger on
girl B too long, even if that means you escalate on girl
B, acknowledge girl A quickly, then go back to
escalating girl B and repeating.
Be commanding and strong. TELL them what you

want them to do. “Get on the floor.” “Kiss each
other.” You get the idea. If alcohol is involved this is
even easier. (Warning: Don’t get any underage women
drunk! Don’t break any laws please!) Proceed
strongly. This is critical.
The best formula is to escalate on both, have sex with

girl B first, then finish with girl A. I always make sure
to do this since it doesn’t give girl B too much time to
“think about it” and it allows me to take more time
with girl A to make her feel appreciated, as well as
“awarding” girl A with my orgasm.
This applies whether you are doing a threesome or

whether you are doing a take-turns thing. Once things
get hot and heavy, have sex with girl B first, then girl
A.
Two Step Referral Game
The above method or variations of it work in about 60% of

cases. However many of my referral game lays happened
without the cooperation of girl A at all. Often they
happened after girl A and I were seeing each other (usually
due to a LSNFTE). I simply maintained contact with girl B
(and/or girl C, girl D, etc) and laid them on my own. This

requires a different technique.
Steps one through three above remain the same. Do those,

then make sure you do step six. Then, we’ll jump right in,
starting with a new step five.
5. Get girl B on your Facebook and in your cell phone.

Both is ideal, but if you can get only one, get her on
Facebook.
6. Contact girl B via Facebook or by texting on at least

two separate occasions. You want it in her head that
it’s “normal” to be communicating with her this way.
7. When you view it’s appropriate, contact her and pitch

a meetup. Then met up with her and proceed as
normal to sex.
“When you view it’s appropriate” is going to depend

on the situation with girl A. There’s so many
possibilities that I can’t cover them all. Usually if step
4 in the above steps fail, I do these steps here then
pitch the meetup when girl A LSNFTEs me. That’s
the easiest way to do it.
However you can still do it while seeing girl A as long

as girl A is somewhat aware of what you’re doing. I
mean “somewhat aware”; don’t give her specifics.
All of this may sound more complicated than it is, and is

probably difficult to visualize if you’ve never been in a
situation like this before. Once you’re actually in the midst
of this, it’s much easier than you might think. The first time
I did this with no experience with referral game was with
two 18 year-olds. We did it as a trio and I did the take-turns-
in-the-same-evening thing. That was over three years ago
and to this day I still have sex with both of them

occasionally.
Once you’ve established a new relationship with a VYW

who really likes you, give it a whirl. It’s easier than you
think.
Chapter Fourteen
Drama Management
If you’re familiar with my other work, you already know

that one of my core concepts, not only regarding
relationships but of all life, is that I have a zero tolerance for
drama. Life is too short, and I have better things to worry
about.
A zero drama tolerance may seem antithetical to a man who

dates younger women, especially VWY. After all, aren’t
younger women big balls of childish drama?
I’ll answer that question in a minute. First, we should

quickly define drama before we go too much further into this
discussion. Per the glossary on my blog, my definition of
drama is this:
Drama – Any harsh negative actions directed from a woman

to man where the man is the target of said negativity.
Screaming, nagging, complaining, arguing, demands,
crying, threats, ultimatums, the “silent treatment”, refusing
sex because of non-medical reasons, all of these things are
drama, and there are many others. Drama is not “anything
negative”. Specifically, it must be harsh (sweetly lying
would not be considered drama) and focused at the man
(angrily complaining about her boss at work would not be
considered drama). Drama is a female trait. (Men have
guy-drama.)
If she screams at you, that’s drama. If she gives you the

silent treatment, that’s drama. If she spends 20 minutes
complaining about her whiny best friend, that’s not drama.

Nor is it drama when she lies to you. These might be bad
things, but they don’t fall under the definition of “drama”.
While were at it, let’s also be clear about what guy-drama is.
Again from my glossary:
Guy-Drama – A particular form of drama directed from a

man to a woman. Unlike drama, which is feminine and takes
many forms, guy-drama takes the form of a lecture issued in
order to correct behavior. “Setting her straight”,
“straightening her out”, “laying down the law”, commands
to “respect” him, or issuing “rules” are all forms of guy-
drama. Guy-drama is extremely ineffective at managing a
relationship and only creates more drama or at best simply
delays (instead of preventing) future drama.
Now that we’re on the same page with definitions, let’s get
back to our question. Do younger women have more drama
than older women?
The answer is yes. And no.
Drama – Yes
Indeed younger women and VWY in particular can be full of

silly, ridiculous, childish drama. All you have to do is watch
some 18 year-old girls talk to each other or watch Facebook
statuses of people (men and women both) under the age of
24 to see the sheer amount of up-and-down, useless,
dramatic BS that permeate the lives of younger women (or
more accurately, younger people).
By the way, I’m not saying older women aren’t tornados of

drama also. They definitely are. Drama is a female trait, not
just a “younger woman” trait. However the sheer amount of
drama from VYW may be something new to you if you’ve

only dated women your own age.
Drama – No
There’s a big BUT to all of this. Yes, VWY are volcanoes

of silly drama, BUT in the face of a confident older man,
their drama can be permanently redirected away from you.
If you stand firm without being a jerk (and we’ll discuss how
in a minute), your 20 year-old girlfriend (or FB or MLTR or
whatever) will quickly learn redirect her drama away from
you and back towards her family, girlfriends, and guy
friends who want to have sex with her (her “orbiters”).
No, she won’t stop being dramatic. That’s like expecting a

dog to never bark. She’ll simply throw her drama at other
areas of her life instead of at you.
This is a key difference between younger women and

women over age 30. If you even start implying that your 35
year-old girlfriend should throw her drama somewhere else
instead of at you, she will actually feel insulted and
offended. To her, she’s has a “right” to throw drama you,
her boyfriend or husband. That’s part of your role in her
life: a target of her drama when she’s in a bad mood. I’m
not making a joke here. This really is how women view
permanent male fixtures in their lives, especially husbands
and live-in boyfriends. The older a woman is, the more this
is true. (There are many psychological and societal reasons
for this that go beyond the topic of this book.)
The point is your 20 year-old girlfriend isn’t adamant about

this “right” to throw drama at “her man” like your 35 year-
old girlfriend would be. The 20 year-old is more than happy
to redirect her drama away from you and towards other
people. As long as she can “express” her drama, she’s fine.

The actual target of her drama isn’t that important.
How To Redirect Her Drama
The first step in redirecting her drama is to not do what your

instincts tell you to do. When a woman (of any age) starts
giving you drama, your biological male instinct will be to
react in one of three ways:
1. React back. You’ll want to instantly throw it right

back at her. “What the hell are you talking about?” or
“I never said that! She’s lying!” or “If you don’t like
that, then stop doing this!” or “Why are you screaming
at me? I didn’t do anything!” This reaction is more
common with more emotional men and more
immature men.
2. Acquiesce. Surrender. Apologize. In psychological

circles this is called conflict avoidance, saying things
like, “Okay, okay, I will!” This is especially common
with men with strong oneitis or beta males in long-
term relationships or marriages.
3. Respond with guy-drama. We’ve already defined

guy-drama. This saying things like “Alright, look!
That’s it! From now own, you are no longer allowed
to hang out with her! I don’t want you ever talking to
that shrew. Delete her off your Facebook page and
call Verizon and block her phone number right now.
I’m going to stand right here and wait until you do it.”
This is common with stronger men, particularly older
men.
Here’s the problem. All three of those responses are bad.

All three are extremely ineffective at the primary goal of not
having drama in your relationship in the first place. The
first response creates more drama. The next two simply

delay drama (in addition to creating the environment for
future drama to fester). None of them remove the drama.
Father-Like Qualities and Soft Nexting
What then is the correct response?
You respond like a kind, loving, but stern father.
Not a jealous boyfriend. Not a drama queen. Not a wimp.

Not a drill sergeant. Not her boss. Not an abusive or
insecure father. A strong, confident father figure who loves
her but doesn’t have time for her crap.
Your words and actions need to make it clear to her that

while you love her (I use the word “love” loosely in these
examples, since you may not truly love her depending on the
type of relationship) you will not spend time with her while
she acts out. Other men might. Her girlfriends might. Her
sister might. But you will not.
Therefore you’re not going to respond to her drama,

surrender to her drama, or issue your own kind of drama.
You’re just going to calmly smile, tell her to calm down, and
if she doesn’t, you’re going to calmly remove her from her
house, and go do something else.
I’m of course talking about the soft next. I go into extreme

detail into the how-to of soft nexting and why it works so
well in my book on open relationships. To summarize, a
soft next is a temporary removal from her life, done in a
relaxed, non-angry way, where you leave her, ignore her
phone calls, emails, and texts for three to seven days. After
which you see her again and resume the relationship like
nothing ever happened.
The difference in soft nexting and drama management with

you as the older man and her as the younger woman is you
need to a little less of an Alpha male badass and a little more
the strong, stern, loving father. Many younger women,
particularly the type twos, have been lacking in a strong
father figure, or in just as many cases, a much too strong
father figure. In many ways you’re the security and
balancing force in her life that she craves. Moreover, she’s
not going to give her father figure drama. Not if he’s both
strong and loving, and you need both components to make
this work.
A few years back I was dating two VYW simultaneously

who were both friends. One day, after some furious
whispers between them, they came to me and started asking
me very nicely if we could have a party at my house and
invite their friends. Immediately they started making all
kinds of promises and assurances.
One of them suddenly stopped, looked at the other, and said

“You know…this is just like we’re asking our dad.”
That’s when I first knew I had nailed the confident, non-

needy, loving, strong, drama-free frame of the father figure.
By the way, both of these girls were massive drama queens
to everyone else in their lives (and remain so to this day), but
neither of them ever gave me drama. This is why.
Let Them Vent
The technique of letting a woman “vent” applies to women

of all ages, and it’s a key in keeping drama low and
redirecting a younger woman’s drama.
When a woman comes home and complains about her

horrible day to her lover, I call that “venting”. Venting isn’t
drama. It’s a very important part of the feminine
psychological process. I don’t know if you’ve noticed yet,

but women process the world by talking. Only by talking
things out do they get to the point where they can relax.
This is, of course, the opposite of what most of us men like
to do. After a rough day we’d rather just crawl into our cave
and watch football. We don’t want to talk to anyone.
Talking about stuff often just pisses us off even more.
Women are the opposite. They need to talk it all out. While
drama should not be tolerated, not even a little, you should
allow her to vent all she likes, as long as she’s at the WD
level or higher. If she wants to complain to you for 30
minutes about her dumbass boss or ex-best friend or her jerk
sister-in-law, let her. Just smile, nod, and let her talk. This
concept was first introduced in the 1980’s by John Gray, the
Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus guy. While
he was dead wrong about a lot of other things, he was
absolutely right about this one.
If you don’t let your woman vent when she needs too, she’s
not going to feel like you are a safe place for her. It’s
critical. And remember, it’s not directed at you, so it’s not
drama! Also, as I implied above, if she’s just an FB, you
don’t need to listen to her venting if you don’t want to.
Of course, if in the process of venting she starts complaining

about you, THAT’S drama and it’s time to nip that in the
bud immediately. Just follow the sequence of 1) a warning,
2) changing the subject if she persists, 3) soft next if she still
persists.
Women are extremely fast learners. She’ll figure out the

difference between drama and venting and modify her
behavior accordingly. I’ve done this countless times over
the years with many women. It works.
Chapter Fifteen
Things To Watch Out For
Younger women are wonderful. I really mean that. My life

has been enhanced in every way since learning how to
attract and date VYW, and I recommend it for every older
man who has decent energy levels and a healthy sex drive.
However it’s not all sweetness and roses. Having a sexual

and/or romantic relationship with a girl 20 years (or more)
younger than you does introduce some challenge areas that
would not happen with a woman closer to your own age
(and, of course, a few that would).
I have several years of experience sleeping with, dating, and

being in relationships with much younger women, and in
large numbers. In this chapter I’ll give you a heads up on all
the pitfalls I’ve observed and learned, so that you can be
prepared for them and ensure they’re alleviated if and when
they do happen to you.
Challenge Area 1: Legal Issues
This is such a critical issue we already discussed this way

back in chapter one, but it bears repeating.
1. Know the age of consent laws in your local area as

well as your attorney does.
2. Always verify a younger woman’s age before you

touch her, either by checking ID or by using a private
investigator or web service.
3. Do not touch women whose age you cannot verify, no

matter how hot or how willing they are, until you can
verify it. If you absolutely can not verify her age,
there are plenty of other fish in the younger woman
sea…move on to other women.
4. Do not touch a women you know to be under the age

of consent, no matter how hot or willing she is.
Remember, there are plenty of fish in that sea, and jail
time nor lifetime status as a sex offender is not worth
any one woman, no matter how amazing.
Got it? I’ve said it twice now. This book assumes that you
have indeed verified the age of any woman you are seeing in
a sexual context.
Challenge Area 2: Family Issues
Even younger women who are 100% sexually legal still may
have parents they live with who are not going to approve of
their perfect little girl dating a guy in his 30s, 40s, or 50s.
The good news is that as the world becomes more

progressive, this is much less of a problem than you might
expect. I’ve actually been extremely surprised at the number
of parents who really don’t have a problem with their 18 or
19 year-old daughters going out with a guy 20 years older.
The majority of the parents of VYW I’ve been with who
were aware of my existence in their daughters’ lives have
been surprisingly supportive, or at least neutral to the
concept.
However, this doesn’t mean all parents will be supportive.

Some are going to be downright creeped out or worse, very
upset. This is especially true if the parents are younger than
you. The good news is younger women aren’t stupid, and
most girls who have parents they know are going to be
pissed simply keep the older man in their lives a secret from
their parents. However younger women being who they are,
secrets tend to get out.
You need to be prepared for any fallout that might occur in

your life or hers if the issue of disapproving parents arises.
Here are some ways you can prevent or alleviate this
problem.
1. Always treat the younger woman (or women) in your

life with the utmost care and respect. You should be
doing this with all women in your life anyway, but it’s
going to serve you double as well if you do it with
VYW. The more you treat her like crap, the more
likely she’ll go complaining about it to her friends and
possibly her parents, and the more likely there will be
trouble for you.
I am not saying you act like a wimp, AFC, or beta

male. Hell no. You can still be a strong, dominant
Alpha male with the younger woman in your life and
still treat her with kindness, care, and respect.
2. Do not lie to women. Again, this should be a maxim

for all romantic relationships. Telling the younger
woman in your life the hard truth or just keeping your
big mouth shut are both better than lying. Most drama
in non-married relationships stem from dishonesty.
Plus, VYW are already used to men constantly lying to
them, so your confident honesty will be a nice retreat
for her, as well as a DHV.
3. Do your best to only date VYW who do not live at

home with their parents. Just doing this alone removes
all kinds of possible relationship and logistical
problems from your interactions with her. VYW are
indeed ten times easier to deal with if they do not still

“live at home”.
Not only are their logistical benefits to dating her

when she doesn’t have parents at her place, but VYW
who do not live at home are far more likely to act like
mature adults than those who live at home with
mommy and daddy. (Of course, there are plenty of
exceptions to this rule as well.) I’ve dated several
VYW who lived in on their own or with roommates,
who owned their own cars and/or had their own full
time jobs. Despite the fact they were numerically
young, they essentially lived the lives of “adults”.
The next best situation is if they live with just one

parent. 50% less parents in the picture means 50%
reduced odds of problems. Plus the single parent will
often be working hard at a job to support the family
and thus not be home; another plus.
If you indeed end up with VYW who is still living at home

with both of her parents, you need to be double as respectful
and honest with her if you want to avoid “parental
entanglements”.
Challenge Area 3: Drugs and Alcohol
Regardless of the law, it’s a hard fact that women age 16 to

23 do more drugs, drink more alcohol, and get drunk more
often than women in any other age group. I have dated large
numbers of women in all age groups, from age 18 to age 49,
and I can attest to this personally.
Women under age 24 drink and/or do drugs more often and

more heavily, often to ridiculous levels and (this is the
important part) it does not matter how smart or mature they
are in the other areas of their life.
Many extremely intelligent and capable VYW will still get

drunk to the point of puking all over the carpet on a semi-
regular basis. Do not be fooled by the cute 20 year-old who
acts “mature for her age”. Most likely she’s still a little
party animal just like all the rest.
Of course, when VYW are with you, you can control this to
a degree, and you should. (Not to mention the legalities
involved of being an older man in the presence of drunk
underage minors.) However when she’s not with you, that’s
where she’ll often get into trouble. Sometimes, big trouble.
I first realized this when I watched an 18 year-old FB of
mine down three-fourths of an entire bottle of 151 rum
within about ten minutes. Wow. I can’t even put a shot of
151 near my face without getting disgusted with the pungent
aroma, but here she was, guzzling it like it was beer. (She
spent the rest of the night puking in the toilet of course.)
In my time with younger women, I’ve had these situations:
• One 18 year-old FB of mine got drunk downtown

with friends (I was not there) and was wearing a
pair of sweat pants that were too large for her (that
she was borrowing from someone else). They were
constantly falling down and she was constantly
pulling them up. She got a little too drunk, and
didn’t pull them up fast enough when the cops
drove by. She was arrested and had to spend the
night in jail.
• One 20 year-old FB got drunk and stoned, had sex

with one of her younger guy friends at a party, and
got pregnant. Her third child (from as many men).
She snagged the guy as a BF so they could “make it
work” until a paternity test revealed he was not the
father. She was so drunk she didn’t even remember

who the real father was.
• One 19 year-old MLTR of mine (one of those very

smart, mature, capable ones) was so drunk one
evening when I picked her up, she kept me awake
until 4am while I held a bowl under her face to
catch her puke. Fun. I had an important business
appointment the next morning and needless to say I
was not happy.
• A 25 year-old MLTR of mine once saw something

another woman put on my Facebook wall she didn’t
like. In a fit of jealousy, she LSNFTE’d me, then
quickly went out on first date with a guy from
online she had never met, got drunk with him, and
had sex with him on the first date. Unprotected
sex, of course, because when you’re drunk you
don’t care. So far so good, until a few days later her
genitals started bleeding. He had given her genital
herpes, and is now herpes positive for the rest of
her life.
• Years ago, before I had most of this younger

woman stuff mastered, I stupidly held a party at my
house and most people there were guys and gals
under age 24. Two guys got drunk, got into a fight
with each other, smashed some of my glasses, got
blood on my floor, and scared the crap out of
everyone else. I had to physically remove them
from my house (thankfully I’m a big guy) drive
them 30 minutes away and kick them out on the
sidewalk, all of this at around 3am in the morning.
Man, I was pissed. (However I did get a threesome
with two 18 year-olds out the deal, and they
cleaned the mess for me while I was gone, so the
evening wasn’t a total loss.)
I don’t want to give you the impression that these are

common occurrences in my life. They aren’t. These are just
a few instances over an almost five year-period of me dating
a lot of women. But if VYW are in your life, especially
multiple ones (like I have), you need to be prepared for these
situations.
Challenge Area 4: Lack of Birth Control or STD

Protection
I cover the topic of birth control and STD prevention in-

depth in my ebook, How To Create And Maintain Open
Relationships With Women, and I’m not going to rehash all
of that here. Suffice it to say that unless you know the
younger woman very well and she’s demonstrated a history
of responsible sexual behavior, you always need to be
wearing a condom when you have sex with one.
This is even more important with VYW than with women

your age. VYW, even the very intelligent and mature ones,
simply don’t care about preventing pregnancies or STDs,
especially when they’re drunk which we’ve just established
can be often. They are especially careless about
pregnancies. I shouldn’t have to tell you about the epidemic
of teenage mothers out there for you to understand that
VYW just don’t care if they get “accidentally” pregnant.
Unlike older women who often actually want to get pregnant

“on accident”, most VYW just don’t care. I mean they
really don’t care. If you want to cum inside them for weeks
on end without wearing any condom, they won’t bat an
eyelash.
But YOU should! Not only will you end up having to pay
child support to some dingy 18 year-old for the next 18
years, you’ll probably end up with chlamydia or herpes or

some other fun disease.
When having sex with any woman, but especially a VYW,

condom up. I don’t care if she said she was “just tested and
is clean” (unless she can show you a hard copy or email
results) or that the “doctor said she can’t get pregnant”.
Wear that condom!
Challenge Area 5: Super High Energy Levels
I actually consider this a good thing, at least sometimes, but

you might not. As I talk about in the next chapter, VYW
have young teenage bodies bursting with powerful
metabolisms, flowing hormones, and almost boundless
energy…possibly way more energy than you want or are
ready for.
• You might want to have a quiet evening at home, but

she wants to go to the clubs and dance until 3am.
• While you’re at work she’s texting you…complaining

that she wants to go to the mall with you. Right now.
(No, she doesn’t care it’s 2pm on a Tuesday and
you’re at work.)
• You’re cleaning your garage on a Saturday and she’s

bouncing off the walls, wanting to go camping or jet
skiing.
• It’s 7pm and she’s starving and wants to go out and

eat, even though you both just ate full meals two hours
ago and she ate more than you did.
• It’s 1am and you’re ready to fall asleep, but she’s wide
awake, jumping on the bed, and wants to stay up and
watch The Simpsons with you. Again.
You get the idea. Humorous as they sound, these kinds of

situations are not unusual.
I happen to be a very healthy and high-energy guy, so this is

not a big deal for me (usually!). Plus I’m at the point where
I’m accustomed to it. However I know plenty of older guys
interested in younger women who have moderate or even
low energy levels. You need to be prepared for the
occasional disconnect with your younger companion. If
you’re only interested in infrequent FBs or very short-term
relationships, this is much less of an issue for you, but still
something to be aware of.
Challenge Area 6: Lower Sex Drives
You’ll especially notice this difference with VYW if you are

used to dating women over age 35.
Women in their 40’s and mid to late 30’s tend to have wildly
insatiable sex drives once they get comfortable having sex
with a particular man. You can have sex three or four times
in an evening and they’re still ready and willing for more.
Younger women, especially VYW, not so much. Yes, they
love sex, and yes you can have sex with them more than
once and they’ll be happy, but they will usually not be
craving sex like older women are.
You’ll probably never get the compliant “all we do is have

sex!” from a 40 year-old woman, but you might from a 20
year-old one. If you have sex once or twice with a VYW,
it’s more likely she’ll be ready to take a shower and “go do
something fun” rather than have sex again.
When I date older women, I often will get phone calls and
texts from them begging me to come over to their place to
have sex with them. I almost never get these kinds of
requests from the VYW I date. (Though there are always

happy exceptions to this!)
One of the key psychological differences between VYW and

older women is that older women like sex because they like
sex, while VYW tend to like sex because of the attention
they’re getting. It’s a slight but key distinction.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying your new 19 year-old

girlfriend won’t love sex with you and won’t be asking you
to have sex with her. She will! Just don’t expect the
hardcore sexual desire you might be accustomed to when
having a 40 year-old girlfriend.
Challenge Area 7: “Slutty” Behavior
This may sound like the complete opposite of challenge area

six, but it’s true. While VYW might have lower sex drives
than older women, they still tend to be more…well…slutty.
I’ll explain.
You might have to worry about the 27 year-old woman in

your life sleeping with another man when you’re not
looking, but you may have to worry about the 18 year-old in
your life having sex with four other men when you’re not
looking.
You’ll probably never have to worry about the hot 28 year-

old gal in your life dancing on a table in front of a bunch of
men when you’re not around.
You’ll probably never have to worry about the 38 year-old

woman in your life dressing in overtly sexually alluring
clothing when it may not be appropriate to do so.
You’ll probably never have to worry about the 31 year-old

in your life constantly flirting inappropriately with other
men when you’re not around.
However you my very well encounter all kinds of things like

this from the younger women in your life. This is one of
those “take the good with the bad” situations. The good
news is that younger women have much less ASD than older
women, and believe me, this is a very, very good thing. The
flip side of this is they will often flaunt their sexuality far
more than older women. If you’re a more controlling guy or
have a more jealous personality, you’re going to have your
hands full.
Challenge Area 8: Addictions To Phone And Facebook
Women of all ages women like to talk on the phone, and

many women of all ages like to mess around on Facebook.
However younger women consider these things their
constant lifeblood. Her phone is the most important thing in
her life. She’s on Facebook all day long, whether that
means sitting at a computer or Facebooking on her phone.
While talking to her at the restaurant while having dinner,

much of the time her little face will be planted in her phone
while she texts someone and talks to you at the same time.
This is a classic generational difference. You might consider
this behavior as rude, but people in her generation do not.
It’s just considered normal in her social world, and if you
tell her she’s being rude you’ll just confuse and annoy her.
It’s simply part of the new communication paradigm of her
era (and frankly, of yours too).
That phone of hers rules her life. It doesn’t matter if you’re

having a quiet emotional moment or in the middle of
watching a movie at the cinema…if that phone beeps or
rings or whatever, she must stop whatever she’s doing and

respond to the text, email, Facebook message, or phone call.
Even if she loves you, her phone will (seemingly) be more

important. Be prepared.
Challenge Area 9: Jealous Younger Guys
Oh, this is a big one.
She’s going to have young guy friends in her age group, and
they are all going to universally hate you with a white-hot
passion. Some “old guy” having sex with “their girl”. Oh
man, they’re going to be pissed.
She’s going to constantly hear complaints and insults

regarding you (when you’re not around, of course). Take
her out to a bar, and guys closer to her age are going to
badmouth you to her whenever you turn your back to get a
drink.
You are not going to be welcome in her male social circle.

The other young men in her life will at best fear you, at
worst hate you. Be prepared for this. I’ve even had one or
two instances of young jealous orbiters of young FBs or
MLTRs I was dating try to mess with me. (Online of course,
never in person.)
If you’re a more emotional, touchy, or dramatic guy, this is

going to be a problem. It’s no big deal for me however;
because of my no-drama policy, I simply refrain from
spending any time with any younger guys in her social
circle. I suggest you do the same unless you enjoy drama
and conflict.
The younger women in her social circle…now that’s a

completely different story! You want to talk to them! We
already talked about referral game.
Challenge Area 10: “On Blast” With Relationship Details
“On blast”, if you have not heard the term, is a common

term among the millennial generation that means to
embarrass someone by revealing compromising information
to a large group of people. Over time that term has morphed
to mean “revealing anything personal to people who don’t
need to know”.
VYW, women under the age of 24 or so, have a different

concept of privacy that you might, especially if you’re well
over age 35. In a world of 24/7 camera phones, video
phones, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter, the term
“privacy” has changed dramatically to say the least.
Let’s say you have a little argument (or even a big argument)
with the younger woman in your life. You might be
surprised to find the next morning she’s posted about it in
detail on her Facebook page so that her 523 friends and
family members can read all about it.
Again, this is a generational difference you need to accept, at

least to some degree. Contrary to what us older guys from a
bygone era might think, she’s not doing this because she’s
being a shrew, or because she’s trying to get back at you, or
anything like that. She’s doing it because that’s what her
generation does. If something pisses them off, they plaster it
all over Facebook/Twitter/Formspring/whatever, regardless
of how personal or private you think it should be.
As an old fogey, you need to be prepared for this

generational difference. For a while, when I was new to the
world of dating younger women, I tried to fight this with all

the VYW I dated. Over time, I realized this was a losing
battle. This is just how “kids these days” “work”. It’s the
way it is, and you’re not going to stop it. Trust me, I know.
I’m at the point now where as long as the crap that is posted
about me isn’t too explicit or specific, I just let it go. Unless
you want to be constantly battling a key generational
difference that you’ll never “win”, I suggest you learn to do
the same. I’m also not saying every younger woman does
this, but the majority do. If it makes you feel better, she’ll
also constantly be posting all kinds of flattering and
wonderful things about you as well.
It’s definitely a new world out there. By dating much

younger women, you’re going to get a crash course on just
how new it really is.
Chapter Sixteen
Sex
Sex with younger women is not that different from sex with
older women. There are all kinds of stories people tell about
how women in their mid thirties are at their sexual peak and
hornier and better in bed than younger woman, some of
these things have some truth to them.
Regardless, I’ve slept with a large number of women from

18 year-olds to women in their late 40s, and I can tell you
for a fact that the actual act of sex with younger vs. older
women is more or less the same. With both younger and
older women, some women are good, some are bad. Some
are loud, some are quiet. Some are very active, some lay
their like a dead fish. Some women orgasm easily many
times, some orgasm once, some can’t cum at all. Etc.
It’s true that an 18 year-old’s body is going to look and feel

much different than the body of 45 year-old woman. That is
absolutely the case and one of the big benefits of VYW. I’m
saying the actual act of sex is more or less the same.
What where you do run into differences between older and

younger women is the atmosphere around sex rather than the
sex itself.
As I mentioned last chapter, speaking generally, older

women, particularly those over age 30, like sex primarily
because it feels good. Younger women, VYW in particular,
like sex primarily because of the attention it gets them. I’m
not saying 19 year-olds don’t think sex feels good. They
certainly do (most of them anyway). What I’m saying is that

for younger women, sexual attention is just as important, if
not more important, than the act of sex itself.
I’ve dated women in their 40’s who wanted me to just come

over to their houses and have sex with them. You will rarely
get requests like this from VYW. She might call you up to
have sex, but after sex she wants to go “do something”.
Whereas after sex the 42 year-old woman probably wants to
just have sex again.
This is the reason why a cute 20 year-old girl loves to dance

on tables down at the local bar but a cute 40 year-old woman
has no desire do to that at all even if thought she could get
away with it without judgment. You might think that’s
because the older woman is more “mature” or have already
“gone through that stage”, and some of that might be true.
However the overriding reason is that pure sexual attention
is less important to the 40 year-old while sex still is. The 20
year-old girl thrives on sexual attention, loving it just as
much as actual sex.
There are few ways as effective to command a man’s total

and complete positive attention as having sex with him, and
younger women learn this very quickly. That’s the
overwhelming reason why they want to have sex, in addition
to the fact she’s got raging hormones (more on this in a
minute) and sex feels really good.
How does all of this relate to you?
In some ways, her desire for sexual attention is very good. It

means she has far less ASD than her 40 year-old female
counterparts. If you play your cards right, she will have sex
with you much faster and with much less rules and strings
attached than a 40 year-old will (whereas the 40 year-old
woman can and usually will deny you sex even if you play
all your cards right in a dating environment).
It also means if the woman in your life is really young, as a

VYW, she’s going to be far more tolerant of you sleeping
with other women, including women she knows personally.
That’s what referral game is all about.
The bad news is that your new 19 year-old or 23 year-old

girlfriend is likely not going to be as pure a sexual creature
as your last girlfriend who was 39. Your new GF is
probably not going to want to have sex six times a day. I’m
not saying she won’t do that, I’m saying she won’t be
begging for it. Your old GF would love to have sex three
and four times in a row late into the evening, but your new
19 year-old GF is ready to go “do something fun!” after
having sex once or twice. She may think having sex all
night is “boring” when she’d rather go to the club with you
instead.
Going back over the plus side of all this, your new 19 year-
old girlfriend is going to have far, FAR less rules about your
relationship than your 39 year-old ex-GF ever did. Your 19
year-old is going to let you do just about whatever the hell
you want. Your 41 year-old ex had a list of expectations and
“proper boyfriend behaviors” for you that was a mile long.
Violations of any of these resulted in a long “discussion”
about things like “mutual respect” and “how hard she
works”. (If you’ve ever dated a woman over age 33 or so
you know exactly what I’m talking about.)
Like most things in life, it’s a list of pros and cons.
Teenage Biology
Before get into the next topic of women’s “slut phase”, we

need to make a quick detour into the realm of biology. This
will aid you in understanding the sexual and relationship

motivations of VWY.
As I have written about extensively in my other works, we

human beings possess, more or less, the same brains and
bodies of ancient cavemen from tens of thousands of years
ago. We like to think we’re all high tech with our IPads and
Bluetooth headsets, but the reality is we are operating the
same bodily machine as Grog the caveman 80,000 years ago
sitting in a cave with a spear and a stinky loincloth. Nature
has been very slow in catching up with our technological
advancements and culture.
Back then, when food was scarce and gatherings of people

were small, nature designed you to grow fast, reproduce fast,
and die fast.
Nature made sure you matured from childhood to

adolescence by age 12 or so. Then it wanted you to have
lots of babies as quickly as possible. So it designed your
body with all kinds of hormones to improve your looks,
make you stronger, metabolize food efficiently, and make
you really horny for sex. This is why teenagers are so damn
horny. This is why parents fantasize about locking up their
teenage daughters and why you used to masturbate 20 times
a day back when you were 13.
After a few years of this, nature didn’t want you hanging

around as an old person, draining the tribe’s very limited
food supply. So it made sure you died at age 25 or sooner.
This is why people start actually aging at age 25. It’s also
why the brain isn’t fully formed until around age 25. Up
until then, people look great. After that, the slow death
process begins. The reason people over age 25 run into
things like sagging skin, wrinkles, gray hair, cancer, heart
attacks and Alzheimer’s Disease is that nature never
intended for any of us to live past age 25. Interesting when

you think about it.
So if you’re a man over 30 dating a woman who is under age

25, certainly if she’s under age 20, you need to remember
her body is likely in a very different stage than yours. No,
I’m not talking about puberty…most women have that
handled by age 12 or 13. I’m taking about this adolescent
caveman-stage where her hormones are powerfully flowing
through her body in an effort to get her to reproduce, among
other things.
This will help you put into perspective the next part of this…
Levels of Sexual Experience and The “Slut Phase”
I have found that VYW usually fall into one of two

extremes. Either she will be very sexually inexperienced, as
in she’s a virgin or only has had sex with one or two men in
her entire life, or she’s had sex with a huge number of men.
Rarely have I met or dated VYW who fell in-between these
two extremes, and there’s a very specific reason for this.
In the modern era, most women hit a temporary “slut phase”

sometime between the age of 16 and 22. At some point
between those ages she snaps and suddenly has sex with a
huge number of guys within a very short period of time,
even if she was a very “good proper little girl” beforehand.
We’re talking 10 to 15 men within 6 to 12 months, or more.
This happens because of various factors including cultural
pressures, parental deficiencies, immaturity, the desire for
attention, and the extremely powerful biological factors we
just talked about.
Then when the smoke clears, she snaps out of it, looks back
and says “OMG I was a slut!” then calms down a little,
keeping it to just one or two guys at a time.
This slut phase is normal, natural, and predictable. Almost

every woman I know went through something like this.
Most older women will (reluctantly) admit that they too
went through this slut phase back when they were that age.
(If you don’t believe me, just ask them.) Of course there are
exceptions to every rule and there will always be a few
women who never do this, but the vast majority in the
modern era, in the western world, do. I don’t care how
innocent or sweet or responsible or how good her grades are
or how good her parents are. She’s either done this or will
be doing this very soon.
When you meet up with a VYW who is very sexually

inexperienced, that means she hasn’t hit her “phase” yet.
There is nothing inherently good or bad about this. These
women are just as layable as the “post-sluts”, so proceed as
normal. Just realize that if you get into an ongoing
relationship with her, the day will come when she’s going to
explode and go get slammed by a bunch of guys. You need
to be prepared for this. Again, I don’t care how much of a
“good girl” you think she is or how much you care for her.
Be prepared for this. All the time I see younger guys get
into serious relationships or marriages with pre-slut-phase
younger women only to be shocked and horrified when these
girls break up with or divorce these guys and go sleep with a
huge pile of men, or worse, cheat on them and do so while
still married or in a relationship with them.
Just as often, perhaps more often, the younger woman you

meet up with will already have had her “phase”. That means
despite or age or appearance she will be very sexually
experienced and she’ll know exactly what she’s doing.
However she will put up a little ASD with you initially
because she “doesn’t want to be a slut like she was last
year.” The memory of her slut phase will still be fresh in her
mind and she will be conscious of not repeating it. However

she won’t be any more resistant than a typical VYW.
Sometimes, though rarely, the timing for you will be just

right and you’ll met up with a VYW while she’s right in the
middle of her short slut phase. Happy day for you. Get
ready for a very fast, very easy lay. However! Don’t expect
her to be around long. Soon she’ll be off you and on to the
next guy. Be double sure to wear that condom!
The best thing to do with VYW right in the middle of the

slut phase is to sleep with them fast and for as long as you
can (which won’t be long), and make sure you get their
phone number, email address and get them on your
Facebook page ASAP. Then when she vanishes out of your
life, hit her up in four to six months later and re-acquire her.
By then her slut phase will be over and she’ll be more
normal to deal with. I have done this with more than one
woman and it works.
Sexual Teachability
For years now, some older women (cougars) have talked

about how they like younger men because they’re more
“teachable” in bed than older men.
Well guess what? The exact same is true with younger

women too. Once you’re in a relationship with a VYW who
really likes you, you can indeed take her from an
experienced near-virgin to an absolute sex goddess who is
amazing at all the things you like. I have done this with
several women, including with women who had not yet hit
their slut phase.
Do not hesitate to do this! As an older man, she’s going to

expect you to be dominant and take the lead in sexual areas
anyway. Being her sex teacher is yet another fantastic way
to assert your dominance and raise her attraction for you into
extremely high levels. Of course, if she’s only a short-term
thing or a pure FB only, this is less important. But if it’s
with someone you plan on dating for a while, you need to do
this.
The sexual areas I have found younger women to be the

most teachable in and most needing of help in are:
1. Being comfortable with their own bodies.
2. Learning how the male body works and does not work.
3. Learning how to get to orgasm clitorally and vaginally

easily and repeatedly.
4. Determining what she likes the most, since she may

not be initially aware (and because all women are
different and like different things).
This is not a book on sex or sexual techniques. That’s a

topic for elsewhere. The point here is if you lovingly
address those four areas with her (in about that order) you’re
going to quickly have one amazing woman in your life. Not
to mention the fact that even if you break up later, she will
remember you, very fondly, for the rest of her life. I mean
that. You’re not here to just get laid. You’re also here to
bring happiness to the women in your life. Getting
comfortable sexually is a very difficult thing for women of
all ages to do. Assisting a younger woman in becoming a
happy, comfortable, sexual being is one of the many ways
you can do good for others.
One more thing about that. Just because a woman in her

20’s has gone through her slut-phase and has slept with a
bazillion men does NOT mean she is now comfortable with
their body or knows how to orgasm. All my life I’ve been
surprised at women who have been with large numbers of

men but who still have body issues, sexual hangups, and
major trouble getting to orgasms. This is because 95% of
the men out there are either terrible in bed or don’t care
about making a woman feel good. Don’t be one of those
guys.
Afterword
If you’ve already had a little experience in dating much
younger women, these ebooks, if you put them into practice,
are certain to boost your results in ways that may surprise
you.
If you’re an older guy who’s never really tried younger

women before, then like Obi-Wan said to Luke a long time
ago in a galaxy far, far away, “You’ve taken your first step
into a larger world.”
Dating with younger women, having them in my life, ranks

up there with one of the most pleasurable, rewarding and
downright happy experiences of my life. If you get to
experience even one-tenth of what I’ve experienced with
younger woman (and it’s my hope you experience more than
that!) you will immediately understand what I’m talking
about.
Take the knowledge from these three ebooks and put them
into practice in your life as soon as you can. Please don’t
read these books, nod your head, and then go back to your
business-as-usual life and forget about them. Do this stuff!
You will be massively rewarded, I promise.
I love to year about success stories. If you’re an older guy

who has made even one much younger woman work in your
life, please email me at here and tell me about it.
If this ebook set sells well, I plan on doing seminars and/or

workshop strictly for older men dating younger women.
Unlike women, as we men age, we become more attractive,
more in our prime. It’s time we started taking advantage of
this. If this is a topic you would like to learn more about,
email me or read my blog regularly to keep apprised of more

products, events, forums, and web sites I’m involved with to
educate older men on what they can have. What they should
have.
Good journey to you, and good luck!
~Blackdragon
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Younger Women
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Table Of Contents
Introduction 5
1. My Very First - “Courtney” 6
2. Time Did Tell - “Madison” 11
3. The Virgin - “Megan” 15
4. Once And Gone – “Jennifer” 20
5. Don’t Karaoke! - “Kelsey” 24
6. She Forgot To Tell Me She Was Married - “Jess” 28
7. The Jackpot - “Tiffany” 33
8. Got Screwed - “Danni” 36
9. Near Perfect - “Lauren” 39
10. Epilogue – The Story Never Ends 44
Introduction
In this book I’m going to lay out several real-life situations
and relationships with some of the VYW (Very Young
Women, women age 18 to 23) in my own life over the past
several years. From these you should be able to pick up
ideas and techniques and get comfortable with the kinds of
things you should do, not do, and expect.
I track everything that happens in my dating and relationship

life on spreadsheets and in journals. To prepare for this
book, I went back and pulled out all the women I’ve gotten
sexual with that were under the age of 24. It was a healthy
list. Then I culled the list down to nine women in particular
that I felt would have the most instructive stories behind
how they came into my life. Some of these women are true
success stories that you can learn from. Others are partial
successes. A few are complete and total failures, all of
which were 100% my fault. You can learn from those as
well. I certainly did.
I have changed the names of everyone involved of course,

but everything else is actually what happened based on my
spreadsheets and journals and to the best of my memory.
This book assumes you’ve already read the first younger

woman book in the set, How To Attract and Date Younger
Women, so I’ll be using terms from that book that might
confuse you if you haven’t read it yet.
Here we go!
Chapter One
My Very First: “Courtney”
It only makes sense to start things off with the first VYW I
ever had sex with as an older man; a very cute, very wild 18
year-old named Courtney. Because she was my first, it took
me a lot of time and effort to finally lay her, and we had a lot
of false starts, but in the end it was worth it not only for the
things I learned, but for other reasons you’ll soon see.
Years ago, back when I was 35 years old and still getting the
hang of all this dating/seduction stuff, Courtney responded
to one of the many openers I sent women on Plenty of Fish.
Up until then I had only sent openers to women age 25 to 45.
One day I thought “Ah, what the hell”, and sent a few off to
some much younger women, ages 18 to 20 or so, just to see
what would happen. The first woman I had a date with was
the hot 20 year-old I talked about in chapter one of the main
younger woman book.
About a month or two after that, Courtney responded to an

opener. We emailed back and forth very briefly and I hit her
up for a meet very quickly as I always do. She happily
agreed. I told her to meet me at a family restaurant (my first
mistake) located in a part of town where I knew she was
living. We exchanged cell numbers.
If you’ve already read Dating Women: Getting To Sex As

Quickly As Possible, you know one of the techniques I use
is to arrive 5 minutes after the woman arrives for a first date.
It creates more respect than if a woman arrives after me and
sees me just sitting there waiting for her. When Courtney
texted to say she was running a good 15 minutes late, I
decided to enter the restaurant and wait for her anyway.
Every 10 minutes or so, she would text me to say that she

was on her way but “was getting lost” since she “wasn’t
from around here”. I got hungry so eventually I angrily
ordered a salad and eat while I responded to business emails
on my phone.
45 long painful minutes later, she still was not there, but was
still texting me apologizing about how she was “lost” and
was “trying to get there”. Upset, I told her to forget it and
we would try for another time.
We texted again a few days later. I decided that it would be

better (in this particular case) if I came to her and picked her
up. I didn’t want a repeat of what happened last time.
I told her (via texts) that I would drive out and pick her up
but if she canceled on me when I was halfway out to her
place, or if I got to her place and she wasn’t there, I would
delete her number and I would never talk to her again. I was
this harsh because I had learned the hard way from dating
other women that this “pick me up” stuff was often full of
time-wasting risk. Very often you’d drive halfway out to
some location to pick a woman up only to have her cancel
on you, forcing you to turn around and drive all the way
back home (while cussing profusely). So I was very leery of
picking women up, always preferring instead to meet them
somewhere. I didn’t understand back then, as I do now, that
most VYW don’t have cars or even driver’s licenses, so
picking up women VYW is par for the course most of the
time.
She swore to me none of that would happen and was excited

to see me. The plan was to pick her up at her place at 11pm.
(Remember what I said in the main book about VYW often
wanting to meet at late hours?) I couldn’t take her to a bar
since she was only 18, but there was a cheapo 24-hour
restaurant close to her apartment that I decided to use.
The night of the date, I went on another first date with

another woman, a very hot 27 year-old blonde, that I ended
at 10:30pm, just enough time to zip across town to meet
Courtney. (I eventually ended up having sex with the blonde
too…in the back seat of her SUV no less…but that’s another
story.)
I pulled up to the apartment and picked up Courtney who

was already in the driveway waiting for me. She was
dressed in shorts that were barely below her butt with one of
those long frilly shirts that were in style with teenage girls a
few years ago. She hopped into my car and immediately
started chatting away. She was very happy and bubbly. (I
learned later she had done some cocaine a little earlier so
that was part of it, but her personality is very enthusiastic
and social even without it.)
We just started talking like old friends. As we drove to the

restaurant we were already laughing together. It was quite
effortless.
At the restaurant she ordered a milkshake and I drank water.

She talked and talked and talked. She showed me the tattoos
on her back also. She was a “shallow”, and keeping her
talking was very easy.
I turned the conversation to her past relationships. Oh, there

had been many. One guy was even 40 years old but “we
never got to sex” she said. She was a true type 2. Good.
After a while I took her for a walk in the night air. While
walking past a church we made out. I don’t normally kiss
women on a first date since it usually reduces the odds of a
lay occurring later, but like I said this was back before my
system was perfected.
She had “friends” back at her apartment, she said. God

knows what that meant, but that ruled out sex for the
evening. Unless…
On the way back to her place I pulled into an empty parking

lot and we made out in my car. That turned into me laying
on top of her and grinding her in the back seat of my car
with my hands all over her. However she would not let any
clothing come off despite my best efforts.
That was it for the first “date”. I forget what we did for the
second date. It was brief. There was no sex. The third time
we hung out was at her apartment where she lived alone but
always had friends over. There, she showed me that she
regularly smoked weed and wanted to make sure I was
“okay with that because most guys give me crap about it”.
I don’t care what women do in their spare time. I made it

very clear to her that I didn’t care. So she smoked her bowl
and I met some of her pothead friends, both male and
female. Once everyone was high, I left. I don’t mind if
people do drugs but I have no desire for them myself. (I’ve
never done any drugs in my entire life, no plan to.)
Three meetups and no sex yet. I was getting pissed.

However as always I was dating, meeting, and having sex
with other women so it was no big deal. But I really wanted
her. She was 18 and hot. The youngest woman I had ever
had sex with up until this point in my life was 27.
God answered my prayers a few days later. I finally got her

to agree to come over to my place. She said that she could
just “stay over”. I liked the sound of that.
Within 15 minutes of her and I arriving back at my place, we

had sex. It was amazing. She was tight, loud, fun, hot. She
was cute with a small build with big, perfect teenage boobs.
It was everything I imagined sex with a younger woman
could be.
Courtney and I went on to date for five months in an open

relationship. We had many wild sexual escapades that are
too numerous and salacious to describe here. She was a
wild, promiscuous, high-sex drive freak, totally incapable of
telling the truth, but a lot of fun. I also had sex with many
other girls in her social circle using referral game. She was
definitely a stepping stone in my evolution and a wonderful
crash-course in the world of older men dating VYW.
This was all years ago. To this day Courtney and I still have
sex occasionally though rarely, when she’s in-between
massive life disasters, drama, boyfriends, and even
husbands. In all seriousness I could write an entire book on
just on Courtney, her life, her friends, her family, her
women, and my involvement in all the above. It would
sound crazier than a Hollywood screenplay.
Perhaps another time…
Chapter Two
Time Did Tell: “Madison”
Not all VYW are wild crazies like Courtney. She’s an

extreme example. Contrary to what you might think, the
majority of the type 2s out there (and type 3s actually brave
enough to date older men) are just normal everyday girls.
One of these was Madison, an 18 year-old, cute girl-next-

door, farmer’s-daughter type with HUGE tits. (I like women
with big boobs, if you can’t already tell.)
I met her on MySpace a few years back. Back in those days,

when MySpace was still big before Facebook destroyed it, I
used to do big MySpace blitzes of openers and friend
requests to lots of VYW. My response rate was low but the
women who did respond were always very nice and very
eager to talk to me (type 2s!) and I did get laid from it quite
a bit.
Since MySpace is not a dating site, it’s usually not a good

idea to suddenly pitch a date or meetup with a girl as soon as
she starts talking to you, especially if there’s an age
difference. More conversation and comfort is required.
Madison and I did a random back-and-forth over MySpace,
off and on, for about a week. I made sure to talk about
relationships and dating and she went into detail about her
limited dating history.
I continued the conversation over texting. I pitched a meet

and she was interested. It didn’t happen. Her schedule was
just too inflexible. She was going to school and working a
job and didn’t have access to a car.
Regardless of all those excuses, one day she suddenly had a

boyfriend. This happens sometimes with online dating…if
there’s too long of a delay for any reason, she’ll be gone, on
to the next guy in her social circle.
An entire year went by. She went from 18 to 19. One day I
noticed her relationship status was back to “single”, so I sent
her a text. She responded immediately and was happy as
hell to hear from me.
I got the entire story of all the drama and problems with her
now ex boyfriend. He was needy, jealous, angry, got furious
when she talked to other guys, constantly kissed her ass, etc.
In other words, he was typical of men her age. I think he
was 20 at the time. So they crashed and burned in a tornado
of ridiculous drama just like most young peoples’
relationships usually do.
I pitched a meet. She was down for it. Again, her schedule
was terrible, but I was finally able to get her to meet me at
the coffee shop section of a bookstore located inside a mall
that was close to her home.
I made sure I was five minutes late (using texts to confirm

she was there) and met her sitting at a table in the coffee
shop. She had fantastic long dark blonde hair with an
average face but one of those strange bodies where
everything is tiny and skinny except her huge boobs which
were easily double Ds. Her boobs (and her age) were the
primary reason I had emailed her in the first place.
As always, I just sat down and started talking to her like we

were already old friends (which in a way we were). She
grew up on a farm and was happy and extremely polite.
Very girl-next-door.
I kinoed her a lot, mostly her hair. She was more than happy
to oblige. To this day I still remember how so damn
compliant Madison was.
At about an hour, I gave her a hug and got the hell out of
there since I needed to make a business appointment. (I was
dressed in business attire since that was what she was used
to seeing on my MySpace pictures.)
About a week later our second “date” was her just coming
over to my house to “hang out”. This is an important point.
Men seem to think that on a date or a “meet” you need to go
out and “do” something. You don’t, especially with much
younger women. VYW are used to going to friends’ houses
to just hang out. I used the fact I had a Nintendo Wii (that
my kids used) over at my place to entice Madison. (Women
hate video games but they love Wii.)
We never even got to the Wii. Most of the time we just sat
on my couch and talked. Knowing it was time to escalate, I
started talking about sex. This conversation moved toward
the topic of her body. Apparently her boobs were so large
she always wore a reducer, and she was wearing one at that
very minute. My heart leapt with joy. Did that mean she
had triple Ds?
Soon I was touching her hair, then her face, then were
making out. I was shocked at how skilled a kisser she was.
Most VYW are terrible kissers (hell, most women are
terrible kissers), but occasionally you get one who is
amazing. She was.
In no time we were on my floor, my hands all over her.

Then her shirt was off and I was sucking her fabulously
giant tits. I moved to take her pants off and…no go. She
had a “five date rule” she said. Five dates? That was a new
one. Most women have a three date rule, not five.
Regardless, I knew from past experiences that women’s

stated “three date rule” (or five in this case) is all BS. I’ve
had sex with plenty of women on the second date who had
this “rule”.
However try as I might, I could not get those pants off. I

could squeeze her ass all I wanted, and I did. I could rub her
crotch through her pants, and I did. I could play and suck
those amazing tits, but the pants would not come off no
matter what I tried.
I went to a fallback position and tried to get her to blow me.

No go there either.
So I just threw her back on the floor and enjoyed the rest of
her body, namely those supertits.
The third date never happened. Less than about two weeks
after our encounter, she suddenly had a new boyfriend again.
Oh well.
This was years ago. To this day Madison and I still

communicate occasionally She’s one of this hardcore “can’t
ever be alone” serial monogamists who always has a serious
boyfriend.
Maybe time will tell again…
Chapter Three
The Virgin: “Megan”
Megan is one of my more unusual VYW stories. Perhaps

“unlikely” would be a better word.
One day I came across 19 year-old Megan’s profile on

OKCupid while doing searches for newly-added VYW
profiles. Her profile was odd in that none of her pictures
showed her face. The closest was one that showed her chin
under a wide-brimmed hat that covered the rest of her face.
I thought, “Well, it’s clear she’s not overweight. And she’s

19. So why not?” I sent her an opener.
She responded, and we had a brief IM conversation. I asked

her about the fact she did not show her face. She was
paranoid about having her face so “public”. Odd. Most
VYW like the attention they get online and love to show pics
of themselves. Even the ugly ones.
Regardless, she seemed interested and very intelligent. We

happened to live in the same neighborhood so I used that as
a point of commonality. I moved the conversation to texting
and I told her to friend request me on both MySpace and
Facebook and she did. In both cases, there were still no
pictures of her face. Damn!
I finally told her to email me a picture of herself since it was

only “fair” since she clearly had seen many pics of me. I
was not going to meet up with a woman sight unseen, no
matter what. I strongly recommend you adhere to the same
rule if you’re using online game as your weapon of choice.
She was very reluctant, but she did so. I clicked her email,
expecting to see an ugly duckling. Instead I smiled ear-to-
ear when I saw her fuzzy cell-phone picture pop up on my
screen. She was cute, with extremely long brown hair and a
very moody look to her. The only thing odd: she was
extremely tall, as in almost 6’1” when barefoot. I’m 6’0”
with shoes on.
Whatever. Cute is cute no matter how tall it is. Especially

when it’s 19.
I pitched a meet. She was extremely reluctant. She dropped

the next surprise on me by revealing she was a virgin. She
had only one boyfriend since age 16 who she recently broke
up with. They had “done things” like go down on each
other, but apparently the cock never went inside the vag.
Some guys are turned off by virgins and others are turned on
by them. I’m indifferent. I simply realized that if I was
going to meet this girl, much less get sexual with her, I
would have to move slowly and carefully.
So I did. I think it took all of three weeks of occasional

texting before she agreed to a meet. (Which was fine, since
I was always dating and having sex with other women in the
meantime. See how I never focus on just one woman at a
time like most guys do? If there’s one recurring theme in
every book I write, it’s that one. It changes everything in
your frame when dealing with new women.)
We met at a Starbucks. Not my favorite choice, but it was

the only location she felt comfortable with. I walked in (5
minutes late as usual) and as I approached I could see in her
big brown eyes that she was petrified. A virgin, who had
never been on a date in her life, now on an almost “blind”
date with a guy almost 20 years older than her. Now that I
think about it, she was pretty brave.
We started talking. Unlike most VYW I’ve dated, it took

her a long time to relax and open up. Most younger women
get happy and bubbly within the first 10-15 minutes or so.
Megan took much longer.
When she did, all she could talk about was her job (and
hopefully future career) as a theatre technician. She was a
hardcore “singular” (refer to chapter ten in the main younger
woman book). As such, she went on and on about lighting,
scaffolding, special effects, sound equipment, and all that
stuff. She loved it. I was just glad she was able to open up
to me.
At the end of the hour went outside (since it was summer

and nice) and talked for a bit out there, where I kinoed her
hands, arms, and hair. She was nervous at my touch but did
not resist. As usual, I made sure to not even try to kiss.
The second “date” was at that same exact stupid Starbucks

again. I never do this, since the more different locations a
woman sees you in, the more comfortable she becomes with
you. Again, that was all she would agree to, since it was a
“known” location for her. I knew sex would not happen so I
made sure it was just an hour like the first date was. At the
end, when we where talking outside again, we made out in
the parking lot. Her kissing was bad, but most women’s
kissing is bad so I’m used to it. Considering she was a
virgin it wasn’t that bad.
On the third “date” she agreed to come over to my house.

To my surprise, at my place she was very relaxed. All the
nervousness from the first two dates were pretty much gone.
She talked and talked about theatre tech just like always. I
made sure to talk about sex and relationships too, and she
followed my lead and went into detail regarding all the
turmoil of emotions she felt around her ex boyfriend, both

post-breakup and when they were dating.
I kinoed her much more this time. I don’t remember exactly

how I did it, but suddenly we were kissing, then we were on
the floor. She was a little nervous when I attempted to take
her shirt off, so I forgot about the shirt and moved to take
her pants off, which she allowed me to do.
Notice this is the exact opposite of what happened with

Madison, where she would not let me take off her pants but
happily let me take off her bra and shirt. Sexually speaking,
different women have different areas of comfort and worry,
and sometimes if your escalation efforts don’t work in one
area, you need to try another area until you find the one
where she’s comfortable.
For Megan, the World’s Tallest Virgin, this was her pants. I
had them off in seconds. God she had a nice ass. After
playing with that a bit I slowly went to take the panties off
and this is where she stopped me. Damn!
So I stopped trying to remove the panties and just went

under them, on her ass and rubbing her virgin crotch. This,
she allowed. But that was it.
I tried and I tried and I tried. Gently, but forcefully. None

of my techniques worked, including freeze outs. She was
virgin, so it’s not like I was super surprised. I could go
under the shirt and panties all I liked, and she liked that, but
they would not actually come off. So, like with Madison, I
just enjoyed what I could enjoy.
On our fourth date, she just came over again, but this time
she allowed even less clothes to come off. It was a case of
buyer’s remorse, virgin style.
I have a personal rule that states there must be sex by the

second date or at least a clear sexual progression by the
second date (as in every subsequent date more things
happen), or I stop dating the woman. I don’t date without
sex. That’s for AFCs.
Therefore after the fourth date I didn’t text her again. She
texted me and I did respond, but I didn’t bother to meet up
with her again.
In time, she got a boyfriend and moved about an hour away

to her new college. She would still occasionally text me.
She said she was still a virgin with this new guy and still had
not had CIP (cock-in-vag) sex with him yet. Megan had
some major purity Disney fantasies so I tend to believe it.
But who knows?
About nine months later when she visited her parents, who
lived right in my neighborhood, she hit me up and wanted to
hang out. So she hung out at my house one more time. I
tried to escalate but got nowhere. She was trying not to
cheat on her new boyfriend (who she hated and who was a
constant problem, by the way) and she was trying to
maintain her virginity.
Sometimes you have to cut bait on the difficult ones, no

matter how enticing. Regardless, know that if a VYW is a
virgin your odds of success go way down no matter how
good you are. No virgin cigar for me this time, but I came
close.
Chapter Four
Once And Gone: “Jennifer”
Jennifer is one of my more recent younger women. What

I’m about to describe happened just a few months ago in
early 2011.
Jennifer was one of many women from a huge online blitz I

did where I sent out over 100 email openers over a period of
several weeks. She was a cute 19 year-old redhead with a
very funky, artsy style.
She answered my opener saying that she did not qualify as

one of the attractive women I say I like in my profile. I
wrote back, saying that I should probably be the judge of
that, and we carried on a quick email conversation and an
IM conversation.
I pitched a meet soon, as I always do. She was extremely

nervous. After a few brief text conversations I finally got
her to meet up with me. I just kept asking, over and over
again, but nicely. We lived in the same area and met up at a
park while she was babysitting a little boy. (Remember
what I said in the main younger woman book about parks
being a good place for first or second “dates” with VYW.)
We spent about an hour together, waking around the park

and watching him play on the play structures. She was very
fiery and sarcastic. (I hate to say it but the stereotypes
regarding redheads are accurate…Courtney was a fiery
redhead too and I’ve dated several others in my day.) We
talked about all the “good” topics during that time. I found
that she had two boyfriends in the past, but the big revelation
was she got sexual with one of her ex-high school teachers, a
married man about 30 years old. (She did this when she was
already 19 so it was legal.) No actual cock-in-vag sex;
apparently they just did oral on each other.
Bingo. Type 2. I was very happy to hear all of this.
I made sure to wrap up the “date” as fast as I could, knowing

sexual escalation was impossible with her little boy around. I
gave her a big hug and went on my way.
About 30 minutes later, she sent me a text telling me that I

need some updated pictures on my online dating profile
since I was “much more attractive in real life.” A nice
compliment. Most compliments I get from women are about
my presence, wit, and masculinity. Rarely do I get them
regarding my appearance so that was nice. All the fashion
and skin regimen stuff (that I talked about in the main
younger woman ebook) was paying off.
I knew it was on. After a little banter I made sure to

schedule the second date right then and there.
As usual, she had no car, and lived with her grandmother

and a few other siblings, so I picked her up at the same park
where we met, which was walking distance from her house.
As I pulled up, it was clear she had dressed up for me. She
was wearing a cute purple outfit complete with matching
socks and shiny girly shoes. It was like going out on a date
with a combination of Punky Brewster and Dorothy from the
Wizard of Oz.
As we drove back to my place I asked her if she was hungry

and to see if she wanted to stop and eat first. She said she
wasn’t. Good.
We arrived at my house and I gave her the grand tour as I

always do when women visit my home for the first time. I
want to make sure they’re comfortable with my house and
my domain; I want them to feel safe with me. It’s critical.
Then we played the UNO card game (which is a great game

to play with VYW by the way). They all know how to play
it and get very excited when you tell them you have a set of
UNO cards.
After a few UNO games (where kicked my ass while I

kinoed her a great deal) we talked a little more and soon she
was on my couch. I could tell she was nervous getting my
face close to hers, at one point even physically turning away
from me during some intense kino while spouting some
sarcastic comments. I used that opportunity to feel her ass
and the backs of her legs. She didn’t resist. My hands
moved up into her skirt and started rubbing her crotch. She
started moaning. After a few moments of that I moved her
to the floor and laid her down on a blanket.
Most women, the vast majority in fact, need to be kissed

before they get to sex. However rarely you’ll run into a
woman who is more nervous about kissing than she is about
actually having sex. Weird but true. Jennifer was one of
those. As has been a repeating theme in this book, there are
times you need to modify your sexual escalation based on
what women desire or are comfortable with.
Once on the floor, Jennifer and I were having sex very

quickly. She was loud, extremely verbal, and it was
fantastic. When I fingered her it was clear she loved it and
had never been touched that way before. She was very wet
and my blanket was quite damp.
When we were done she kept on talking about it, making

both positive and sarcastic comments about it, laughing and
joking about how I “came all over her” (which I did).
A few days later during a text conversation I told her we

should hang out again. She responded by saying she
suddenly had a new boyfriend. When I demonstrated my
confusion she said she thought I was only interested in sex.
I told her she was mistaken (which was the truth) but if she
already had a new boyfriend it was probably too late for us
anyway. (I gave her something, then I took it away.)
A week later she said she had already broken up with the
new boyfriend (big shock) and said that she missed me (big
shock). I tried another meet but she said she was busy until
the following week.
A few days later I sent her a text. No response. I sent her

another text a few days later. No response. So I forgot
about her and moved on.
This was all a few months ago. We had one friendly text
conversation since then but I really didn’t attempt to meet
up, namely because my woman-schedule at the time was a
little full. I may never see Jennifer again, or I may. It’s hard
to tell when I’ve had sex with a woman one time. As I talk
about in my open relationships ebook, women are locked
into you after having sex with you twice. But just once, it’s
still a crap shoot. Jennifer has only been once (at least as of
this writing). Most women I have sex with more than once;
that’s always my objective. One night stands are rare for
me, but it they do occasionally happen.
Oh well. It was VERY fun while it lasted. Jennifer’s a very

cool chick.
Chapter Five
Don’t Karaoke!: “Kelsey”
I had never paid attention to Asian women up until a few

years ago. Way back when I was dating Courtney from
chapter one, I met one of her 18 year-old girlfriends, a short
cute Asian girl. Unlike most Asians, she one actually had
big boobs and very well-defined hips. Her and I also had
very similar interests and personality traits, so I was
instantly into her. Using Courtney and some referral game, I
had sex with little miss Asian and it was amazing.
From then on, I was sold on Asian women…just as long as

they had curvy bodies with hips and boobs (and frankly,
most Asian women do not).
Fast forward a few years, and I see 21 year-old Kelsey’s

profile on Plenty of Fish. Asian, half Chinese and half
southeast Asian but born and raised in the U.S. I could tell
from her pics she had that curvy figure I love, and big-
breasted Asian women are rare and wonderful jewels, at
least in my world.
Too bad I was about to screw this up. Really bad.
We meet up at a very cool bar for our first date.

Surprisingly, she didn’t drink much. Most 21 year-olds are
insane drinkers because of their new drinking-legal age.
She was very hot. Asian, huge tits, nice hips, very dark skin
and eyes, perfect lips, perfect thick long hair. We talked for
a very long time, well past the one hour I usually limit my
first dates to. (Mistake number one.) I found out she
actually sang semi-professionally (but made very little
money doing it) and that her last boyfriend was in his 40s
(she’s a type 2!).
I did not kino as best as I could have (mistake number two),

but regardless toward the end of our date as we were
walking around I could see she was begging for a kiss. So I
kissed her. (Mistake number three.)
For our second date, I had a different bar in mind, but she
desperately wanted to go karaoke to she could sing. I didn’t
see anything wrong with that so I agreed.
(Though I hadn’t realized it yet, that was mistake number

four.)
On the way to the bar, in the car, we made out a little.

Things were looking really good. I was excited.
We got to the bar, ordered some drinks, talked some more,

kinoed some more, and waited for our turns to karaoke.
It was her turn first. She went up, the music started, her
mouth opened, and holy crap. She instantly stunned the
entire place. Her singing was every bit as good as a world-
famous professional. Everyone was enraptured at her
perfect voice and stunning presence as sang some Dolly
Parton country western tune (which, judging by the size of
Kelsey’s chest, was appropriate). When she finished, there
was a standing ovation. I’m not exaggerating or making this
up. People in the bar, men and women both, actually stood
up and clapped and cheered as she made her way back to her
seat by me.
I was extremely impressed and told her so. She smiled.

Apparently she was used to this kind of attention.
Then it was my turn to get up and sing.
Let me stop here and say that while I have a very good voice
and I know how to sing reasonably well, I have an extremely
limited octave range and I can only sing well if it’s a song I
specifically rehearse. The music I listen to his hard
metal…not really something you can sing. So I walked up
to the microphone and selected Fly Me To The Moon by
Frank Sanatra, a song I occasionally sing in the shower.
The music began! I took command of the audience using

eye contact and body language as I have so many other times
when I do public speaking.
Opened my mouth! I sang!
And…..I sucked!
I guess my unrehearsed singing voice doesn’t sound as good

to others as it does to me in the shower. As I sang I could
see a horrified look of embarrassment on Kelsey’s beautiful
face. She averted her eyes every time I looked at her in the
audience. When the song was over, there was dead silence
from the crowd as I made my way back over to her.
(Mistake number five.)
She was very polite and very nice, but there was an instant
and definite change in the dynamic between us. Regardless,
we talked for a little while longer before I drove her back
home, since she “had to get home to study.” Or something.
As I pulled up to her house to drop her off, she turned to me

in the car, smiled, and gave me the Let’s Just Be Friends
speech. Not that I was surprised to get it.
Let me clear about something. Despite all of the prior little

mistakes I made, I’m confident that I could have still laid
Kelsey had I not gotten up there and sang (or even better, not
gone to a karaoke place with her before having sex with her
twice). But once I got up there and sang like a wounded
rooster, that was the end of me and Kelsey.
Let my pain be your wisdom. Never, ever do anything

“different” or “creative” or “outside the box” with a woman
during the seduction phase until after you’ve had sex with
her at least twice. Before that happens, keep the dates
(hopefully no more than two of them) to just drinks and
that’s it. No matter how hard she tries, no dinner dates, no
rock-climbing dates (or whatever) and absolutely no
karaoke!
Chapter Six
She Forgot To Tell Me She Was

Married: “Jess”
Oh, this was a fun one. I was years ago and still makes me
smile to this day.
Sending online openers one day I see Jess on Plenty of Fish

and I immediately come to a complete stop. Not only was
she young (22 years old) but she was absolutely smoking
gorgeous. Small, short, amazing body, perfect blonde hair,
amazing face, everything I like. I sent her an opener and she
responded very quickly.
Soon we were having a conversation over texts. She tells

me about all kinds of drama she’s having with her recent ex
boyfriend whom she has a child with. Due to their disputes
the child was with him temporarily, not her. (Which I
always consider a good thing for obvious reasons.)
Though she was somewhat nervous, she agreed to meet up

for a date. She had no car so I picked her up at her
apartment (where she lived alone, which I remember
thinking was unusual) and I was going to take her to a bar.
However I had just come from work, had not eaten all day
and was starving. So I changed things on the fly and asked
if she was hungry. She said she was, so I took her to very
cheap but very good Mexican restaurant that was only five
minutes away.
Side note. If you’re a very busy guy like I am, this

sometimes happens. You’ll be about to start a first date at a
bar, but you’ll be starving because you haven’t eaten in a
while. If you’re not careful, you’ll suddenly want to change

the date into a restaurant so you can eat. You need to avoid
this. Nowadays I always keep almonds, bottled water, and
little yogurts in my car, so no matter how hungry I might get
in a busy day, I can always wolf down some food and
refocus. I strongly suggest you do the same.
Back to Jess. Restaurant first date. Usually a no-no. But I

kept it to a very cheap place and I was starving, so I
rationalized it that way (for better or for worse).
We talked for few minutes on the way and I could tell she
was nervous. Not a big deal. VYW often are in the first few
minutes, especially when those first few minutes of the date
are in a strange man’s car.
No worries. As soon as we got out of the car I could tell she

was loosening up.
Man, once I got a good look at her out of the car, I was
smitten. She was so hot…the exact perfect look I like in a
woman. Damn near my personal “ten”.
Once we sat down and started talking, my attraction just kept

on getting worse. “Worse” as in more intense. She was so
smoking hot I had trouble concentrating. The one thing that
kept me grounded was it was clear she was drama queen and
she wasn’t that smart, both of which are turn-offs for me.
She went on and on about all her problems with her ex, her
ex before that, her medical problems, and her family
problems. If I wasn’t so turned on I would have been
exhausted listening to her life.
Regardless, I enjoyed her. All that drama simply meant she

would have to be an FB rather than an MLTR once we
started having sex. Not a problem. I love FBs.
We had some good Mexican food, laughed a lot, and I

kinoed her a lot. I had another first date scheduled right
after her so when we were done I dropped her back at her
place.
Later she sent me a text asking if I thought she was “okay”.

Always a good sign. If a woman sends you a text after a
first date before you send her one, that’s the Ultimate IOI, as
I describe in my Get To Sex Fast ebook. It means you’re
getting laid. I gave her the standard answer I always give at
that point: “I’m not sure yet.”
For our second date I had to pick her up at her apartment

once again. The problem was twofold. One, she lived quite
a ways away (about 50 minutes driving distance from my
house) and second, she had no phone, so I could not confirm
things enroute or when I arrived. (She had been texting me
using a shared apartment computer and her Yahoo
Messenger account.)
Regardless, I wanted to have sex with her so badly I went for

it anyway. Plus, I had already met her, and the date went
great, and she had given me the Ultimate IOI. What would
possibly go wrong?
Well, a lot.
After driving 50 minutes I arrived at her apartment. I

parked, went to the building entrance, and buzzed her room.
A man answered. The conversation went something like

this:
Him: Hello.
Me: Hi. Is Jess there?
Him: Who is this?
Me: It’s Blackdragon. Who is this?
Him: <angry tone> This is her husband.

Me: Really? Jess has a husband, huh?
Him: <more angry now> Uh, hell yeah she does!
Me: Well, that’s great. I’m here to pick her up for our
DATE tonight but that’s probably not going to happen. It
was nice talking to you. And by the way, you might want to
ask your sweet little angel what she does in her free time
when you’re not around. Bye!
I turned around and left. I got back in my car and did what I
always do when a new date doesn’t work out. I texted one
of the other women I was dating at the time, set her up for
later that evening, and got laid.
A little while later Jess sends me a flurry of texts about how

sorry she was, how she was going to tell me, how they were
getting a divorce, how he wasn’t supposed to be there, blah,
blah, blah.
No thanks. Not only did she lie to me in a pretty big way

but she put me in a position to get directly involved in her
life drama…drama I had nothing to do with. Oh, and did I
forget to mention that this “ex” who was her husband was a
huge, ripped, muscular guy almost 20 years younger than me
who took steroids and had a history of violence? Fun.
I was tempted to overlook all of this and just had sex with
her anyway, but I have a strong no-drama policy in my life
and I didn’t see any way to have sex with her and avoid her
chaos.
As you can probably tell, I have no problem dating women

who have lots of drama in their lives. Women often do,
younger women often more so. However I don’t want that
drama spilling over to me and my life, and that’s a big
difference.
What a disappointment Jess was, in many ways. Oh well!
Chapter Seven
The Jackpot: “Tiffany”

Tiffany is one on the short list of my absolute best success
stories. (One of the others is Lauren, who you’ll hear about
in chapter nine.) She was (and still is) a success in dating,
online dating, fast seduction, VYW, open relationships, and
referral game. A win/win/win all the way around.
Several years back, just as an experiment, I hopped on

MySpace and ran a search for every 18 or 19 year old within
25 miles of my house who had just been online that day. I
launched off 20 emails to the 20 hottest girls in my search.
As usual, I just looked at their photos. I completely ignored
their profiles and their “relationship status” and even sent
emails to women who said they were “In a relationship” or
“Engaged”, knowing from past experience that words like
“relationship”, “boyfriend”, and “engaged” don’t mean
much to VYW.
All I said in the opener was this:
You seem interesting.
If you want to chat, let me know.
That was it. Out of the 20 emails, I got four responses, three
of the four were very positive. One of them was Tiffany, a
gorgeous 18 year-old Asian who was only a few days away
from her 19th birthday. We chatted back and forth on
MySpace about things like fun and family. I gave her my
cell number and told her to text me. In response she emailed
me her cell number, and we started texting.
Within minutes the texting turned into a phone call where

we chatted for about 20 minutes while I attemped, mostly
successfully, to work through her thick Asian accent. I
pitched a meet at her favorite mall for the very next day and
she agreed.
We met at the food court of the mall and talked for about
two hours (this was before I implemented my one-hour-max
rule for first dates). She was cute, feminine, and fun. We
talked, laughed, and I kinoed her a lot. When I got to up to
leave she looked upset and said I “needed to eat”. So I let
her buy me lunch. Who am I to say no? Shortly after that
we wrapped it up. It was clear she wanted to see me again.
For our second “date” I picked her up at her place (as usual,
she didn’t have a car or even a driver’s license) and took her
to another mall, this one very close to my house so I could
easily take her there afterwards. In talking to her I
discovered she only had dated a huge amount of guys but
only had sex with one of them, and even that was a year
prior and it was only a few times. In the bookstore as we
looked around I really ramped up the sexual kino, touching
her hair and her face.
Soon, I told her we needed to go to my house because I had

to “check my email”. (Any excuse works.) She agreed.
After giving her the grand tour of my house, we sat together
at my dining room table while I messed with my laptop.
Soon she wanted to “play on the computer” and sat on my
lap, where I proceeded to feel her body to my content.
Soon after that we were on my couch, making out, her on

top of me. Then she looked at me for a minute and actually
said “We can have sex. Do you want it now?” Um, let me
think about that…
We had sex and it was almost like having sex with a virgin.
Bleeding, pain, etc. That didn’t seem to bother her too much
because we immediately started seeing each other once a
week.
This was about two and a half years ago and I’m proud to
say that to this day I still see her about once a week in an
open MLTR relationship. She’s been one of the most
consistent woman in my life. We’ve had many fun
adventures together. Threesomes, other hot VYW women
she’s brought to me to have sex with, I could go on and on
and on…it’s been a wild, wonderful ride. Much like the
experience I had with Courtney, but without most of the
drama and chaos. She’s still a woman, so she does gives me
drama from time to time and soft nexts do happen, but rarely
is it a big deal.
If you put in the numbers, you will find women like this.
They’re out there waiting for you right now.
Chapter Eight
Got Screwed: “Danni”
A few years back, just a few weeks after my strikeout with

Kelsey from chapter five, I had a first online date with
Danni. At 23 years old, she had long dark hair, big brown
eyes, a very girl-next-door look. Her face was alright, but
her body was simply amazing. I still remember that day in
the bar where we met, watching her move as she got up from
the small table to ask the waitress something. She had one
of those bodies that looked like an artist’s sculpture. She
was striking.
We talked for a while but realized the bar was closing. It

was one of those suburban bars; those don’t stay open long.
So I put her in my car and took her to one of the downtown
bars to continue our conversation.
Danni was very natural and very comfortable sexually.

Soon I was kinoing her and she was touching me back.
Soon after we were making out right there in the bar. Yes,
this is a no-no, but I was still formulating my system back
then. That being said, she was a fantastic kisser and had
fantastic lips she knew how to use well.
One the way back from the bar I squeezed her thighs and her
crotch (over the clothing) with my right hand and as I drove
with the left. She ate it up, not thinking or acting like there
was anything wrong or unusual about it. Like I said, she
was very sexually comfortable. She said it was “because she
was Greek.”
Right then and there I considered booking a trip to Greece.
Nothing else happened that night. She “had” to go home to

“get up early for work tomorrow”, so I bid her a good
evening and headed home.
Our second date was at another bar and it was during the
daytime, which is another no-no, but it was the only time I
could get her. I tried to get her back to my place but “she
didn’t have time”. More makeouts and more feelouts, but
not much else.
Over texting a little later she told me she wanted to go to a

dance they were putting on downtown and that she wanted
her mom to come with us so I could “meet her”. Even back
in my novice state at that time, I knew that having mom
around on a date was a horrible idea, but for some dumb
reason I can’t remember (probably horniness) I agreed to it.
I tried to convince myself that it was a “good sign” she
wanted me to actually “meet her mom”.
It wasn’t a good sign. It never is.
Like a wimp AFC, I drove out to her place, picked up her

and her mom, and drove the three of us downtown. Danni
was all dressed up in a sexy strapless dress, but that was
irrelevant since sexual escalation was impossible with
mommy right there.
We danced and hung out. When mom wasn’t around, we

made out and I squeezed Danni’s perfect tits. They
suggested “going to dinner” but I knew that would mean me
footing a $100-plus bill, so I made some excuse about
getting tired or something.
The evening ended. I took them both back home. We hung

out at their place for a while (Danni lived at home with her
mom), but nothing much happened. (If you’re thinking
“mother-daughter threesome!”, um, Danni’s mother did not

qualify. Otherwise this story would have turned out much
differently.)
So I drove home, alone, pissed.
I made a few more attempts to see Danni again, but was

always “in the hospital” regarding “something wrong with
her ovaries”. STD? Could I have dodged a bullet? I never
found out.
Though we talked a few more times since then, I never saw

Danni again. The situation with her is a perfect example of
why you never want to:
1. Kiss a girl on a first date.
2. Follow any AFC 1950’s dating models.
3. Spend any serious money prior to having sex with a

VYW.
Though I didn’t get laid, I learned a lot dealing with Danni.
I didn’t forget.
Chapter Nine
Near-Perfect: “Lauren”
Like Tiffany, I consider Lauren one of my great VYW

success stories. It puts a huge, dumb smile on my face just
to write about her, and I mean that.
Lauren was a very, very cute 18 year-old I found one day on

Plenty of Fish. Some freckles, beautiful deep eyes, long
amazing brown hair, trim body but with a huge perfect ass,
the body style I love.
She responded to my opener and we chatted a bit on POF

before I moved the conversation to MSN messenger so we
could IM. We had one, perhaps two very deep discussions
about men, women, relationships, and life. She was very
much in the “singular” category I talk about. Moreover, her
personality to so similar to Megan’s back in chapter three,
the two girls could have been best friends.
She had a “somewhat” boyfriend but was very wishy-washy

about it (nothing unusual there; VYW often are wishy-
washy about boyfriends). She also had a child (he was not
the father) which made her cautious. I tried to meet up with
her though she resisted, albeit gently.
Soon she emailed me and informed me she was moving

across the country with her boyfriend to go live with him
even though it was very clear she didn’t love him (or even
like him that much!). That didn’t matter…she was a mother
and had found a provider. I shrugged, wished her well,
continued to focus on other women, and completely forgot
about her.
More than an entire year later, something interesting

happened.
I had recently had one or two FBs/MLTRs leave my life

because of some LSNFTEs, so I hopped back on the dating
sites to bring in some new women.
As I was poking around on Plenty of Fish, my eyes caught a

picture, one of those many pictures you see on the top of the
screen at POF showing women who were recently online. I
hesitated. This particular picture looked vaguely familiar.
Suddenly I remembered. It was Lauren! Though I had long

forgotten her name, I very much remembered her picture
(like most men, I’m visual). It was the exact same picture
she had used the first time we talked.
I fired off an email to her that just said “Hey you! It’s
Blackdragon. Remember me?” Very simple. I didn’t
expect anything to come of it and continued to focus on
other women.
She responded to my email. We emailed back and forth a bit

and told her that we should meet up. She agreed instantly.
She couldn’t meet up until after 10pm, so we met up at the

only easy place we could find and that would allow 19 year-
olds in at late hours: a local Denny’s restaurant. Hey,
whatever works. Remember, VYW don’t care about fancy
dates. Requiring fancy, expensive, or “romantic” first dates
are what older women are about. VYW could care less.
I was immediately attracted to Lauren. She was so cute, so

quiet and soft spoken. So shy. So beautiful. Extremely
intelligent and very mature for her age. Very much a
singular. Along with that face and that ass, I couldn’t wait
to get her into bed.
After her ordering water and me ordering some onion rings,

we stepped outside so she could smoke. A huge percentage
of younger women smoke cigarettes so I was used to this by
now. When she was done I kinoed her hair, hands, arms,
and eventually her face as we talked outside in the night air.
I was extremely tempted to kiss her, but I had learned by
then that kissing on the first date reduced the odds of an
eventual lay, not increased them. So I resisted. But I’ll be
honest…it was difficult.
Our second date was at my place. I don’t remember if we

went somewhere first and ended up at my place or if we just
went over to my place. I’m pretty sure we just went to my
house. Once there, we talked on my couch for a while. I
kinoed her a lot. She liked it. I tried to kiss her. She
resisted slightly but eventually we kissed and it was good.
However I could sense she was still nervous. I tried a few
more times for further escalation but decided not to push it.
So we got back in my car to take her home, but I was hungry

so we stopped at a drive-thru first and parked in a nearby
parking lot to eat. After eating in my car, my sexual desire
overcame me and I kinoed her again was she smoked outside
in the night. Soon my hands were on her ass, on her tits,
rubbing her crotch. I tried to kiss but she resisted. Odd!
Then she looked at me with glassy, hungry eyes and said in a
very quiet voice, “I’m wet.”
It finally dawned on me that like Jennifer (back in chapter

four), Lauren was one of those odd women who love sex but
are uncomfortable with kissing.
Hey, no problem! Once I figured that out (I can be dense

sometimes when my sexual desire is raging), we were back
in the car and my hand was down her pants rubbing her bare
clit. No resistance at all. She moaned and her crotch
gushed. I moved to pull her pants all the way off to have sex
with her right there in my car. When her pants were about
halfway down her legs, she looked at me and asked “Right
here? In your car?” I said, “Do you want to go back to my
place?” She said, “I don’t know.”
Let me tell you something. When a woman ever answers “I

don’t know” to a sexual question, that means YES.
As soon as she said “I don’t know”, I nodded, said nothing,

pulled her pants back up, started the engine, and drove her
right back to my house. Fast.
Within about 20 seconds of us entering my house for the

second time that evening, we were having sex on my
bedroom floor. It was incredible. Her body was amazing.
She was amazing. As a very submissive girl I knew the odds
were high that she would love to be screwed hard and rough
and in a very dominant style. I was right. It was a night to
remember.
I dated Lauren consistently for over a year until her first

LSNFTE. She would come over to my place once a week
(she had her own car!) and we spent our time having deep
discussions and lots of amazing sex. Amazingly, Lauren
never gave me even a tiny drip of drama, placing her in my
short list of Favorite Women of All Time. I mean no drama,
not once, ever. Hell, even Tiffany eventually started giving
me drama eventually. So had various other low-drama
women I have dated over the years. But not Lauren. Not
once has she ever given me drama or ask about being
monogamous or complain about anything else.
Heaven.
She has LSNFTEd me a few times, but she always comes

back. As of this writing she has just turned 21. She goes
back and forth between looking for a provider-hunting and
“having fun” modes, so she she’s in provider-hunting mode,
I never see her. When the beta male AFCs have given her
enough trouble (and they always do, eventually) then I see
her a lot, and I’m a very happy guy when I do.
Ah, if only all women could be like Lauren. A man can

dream…
Epilogue
The Story Never Ends
These are the nine VYW out of the many I’ve been with
who I think demonstrate exactly the things you should and
should not do in bringing (and keeping) younger women into
your life as an older guy.
With the exception of Jennifer, every women described in

this book who I actually had sex with I am still having sex
with to this very day, even if sporadically in some cases.
Moreover, most of the women I did not have sex with I’m
still in occasional contact with, and who knows? Maybe
some will be like Madison or Lauren and we’ll consummate
years after we actually started talking. One never knows.
Of course there are many other VYW I did not write about.
Talking only about the women who were very by-the-book
and very easy, fast lays wouldn’t be as instructive for you. I
hope you’ll agree that giving you a smattering of many
different situations has been more educational.
As I get older there will be many new women in my live,

younger and older. Regarding the younger ones, I plan on
dating VYW for a very long time, well into my 50s.
One last thing. One of the reasons I included some of my

failures in this book is to demonstrate that I’m not some
unusual superman who is doing things you can never do. I
make mistakes and screw things up just like everyone else.
Every success I have had in the area of younger women as
an older man you can accomplish as well, perhaps even
better than I can. I hope this book has demonstrated not
what’s possible for me, but what’s possible for you.
Now get out there and do it. Those type twos are waiting.
~Blackdragon
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Table Of Contents
About the Transcripts 5
Transcript One: “Teresa” 6
Transcript Two: “Mandie” 12
Transcript Three: “Danni” 25
Transcript Four: “Britney” 29
About The Transcripts

For this book, I went back through all my transcripts and
text archives and pulled the best ones with younger women
that I could show you; the ones that best demonstrate what
you should do when arousing attraction, establishing
comfort, and scheduling dates. What follows are actual
transcripts of either texting (via cell phone) or online instant
messaging of actual younger women I’ve dated at some
point.
I have not edited them in any way nor have I omitted

anything in the individual messages except for two
exceptions I’ll get to in a minute. That means the spelling,
the abbreviations, all of that stuff is literally as-is, even when
the spelling errors are mine (and I try very hard not to
misspell words when talking to women since they do notice
and do judge you on it, even if they themselves are
misspelling words). I wanted to give you as real life a
picture as I could.
One of two things I omitted from the conversations were

things that were completely irrelevant to the actual thrust of
the conversation. The only other omissions and edits I made
were to protect privacy. Sometimes I had to make some
heavy omissions to ensure everyone’s anonymity, but what
you do see is a copy and paste of what was said barring a
series of letter X’s (“xxxxxxx”) which is where I had to
make a privacy edit.
As is always the case in my writings, the names of everyone

have been changed.
Here we go!
Transcript One: “Teresa”

This is a text conversation I had with “Teresa”, a tall half-
black 21 year old I dated briefly. We had already emailed
back and forth a little on MySpace, but not much, and
attempted to meet up for a date which she flaked and
canceled. This conversation picks up shortly after that.
Teresa was extremely sexual…notice how fast she jumped

onto the sexual topic as soon as I brought it up. She’s one of
the few women I got sexual with on the very first date.
Notice how I just switch the conversation to dating and then
to her and I meeting up, without looking for a conversational
segue. This is important. Lots of guys are always asking
how to “change the subject” to schedule a date or whatever.
You usually don’t need to. Just do it!
Here it is:
Teresa: hey
Blackdragon: Hey. Who is this?
Teresa: this is teresa! haha remember me?
Blackdragon: Oh yeah. How are you darling?
Teresa: Im well. although at this moment im
laying inn bed close to death cause im
soooooo hung over!
Blackdragon: I can imagine! After halloween, damn.
What were u last night?
Teresa: i was a latina lol it was great
Blackdragon: A black latina???? Haha. You smartass!
Teresa: hey people already think im a mexican i
figured why not
Blackdragon: What the hell? You don't look mexican at
all. Weird.
Teresa: i know! haha how was ur night?
Blackdragon: It was fun. Took my little one
trickortrearing, then went to a party until
about 2am. Lotta hot slutty chicks on

halloween lol.
Teresa: nice!
Blackdragon: How's your dating / sex life been?
Teresa: its been good. nothing to exciting but good
;-) how about urs?
Blackdragon: I never go without sex for long stretches. I
just can't. Dating has been OK. Cool
people but no one amazing.
Teresa: yep i know what u mean
Blackdragon: Sometimes its a pain to have a really high
sex drive. :)
Teresa: lol yyyep but thats why god gave us sex
toys ;-) well for me anyways
Blackdragon: Ah. All I have are furry handcuffs. :).
What kind of vibrator do you have?
Teresa: haha im a lady, i dont kiss and tell
Blackdragon: Haha. So uptight! Lol!!!!!! Probably
don't want to use it too much
anyway....might blunt ur sexual skills.
Teresa: lol yyyyeah right
Blackdragon: Haha. We should get together sometime.
Teresa: definitely, go out have a drink
Blackdragon: Can u drink? How old are you now?
Teresa: 21
Blackdragon: Cool. You're part of the human race now
lol.
Teresa: i know! thats how i feel! haha finally a big
kid
Blackdragon: When are you free next?
Teresa: when ever ;-)
Blackdragon: Tonight? Or are you still going to be
hungover?
Teresa: haha definitely not tonight... i don't plan
on leaving my bed
Blackdragon: That's kinda what I thought. :) I'll hit you
up tomorrow or Tues then.
Teresa: sounds good to me! so what are u doing

today?
Blackdragon: I'm going to clean the house and then go
play blackjack at the casino. :)
Teresa: Fun! we should go out the coast
Blackdragon: Yeah. That would be cool. The coast is
fun.
Teresa: Yep, go to the casino
Blackdragon: I'm a big blackjack player. I'm in vegas a
lot too. I'm thinking about going pro.
Teresa: Nice!! im pretty good at blackjact
Blackdragon: Cool.
Teresa: Yes sir
<I did not respond. About 15 minutes later she resumed the
conversation.>
Teresa: sooooooo whats up hott stuff

Blackdragon: Wondering how you would be in bed.
Teresa: Lol oh yeah
Blackdragon: Yeah.
Blackdragon: I wouldn't know since I've never been with
a black chick. :)
Teresa: What do u think?
Blackdragon: Like I said, I don't know. Maybe you're
terrible. Maybe you're really prude. Maybe
you're great. I don't know.
Teresa: Lol oh i see
Teresa: so what are u like in bed?
Blackdragon: I'm very dominant.
Teresa: Yum
Blackdragon: If you're a good girl maybe you'll find out.
Teresa: Oh u want a good girl do u?
Blackdragon: A good girl does what she's told in bed. ;)
Teresa: mmmhm
<Two days later.>
Blackdragon: Hey you.

Teresa: Hey
Blackdragon: Workin or going to school today?
Teresa: Both
Blackdragon: Damn. Ur busy.
Teresa: Only until like 6
Blackdragon: U want to hang tonight? Its my last free
eve this week.
Teresa: Sure what do u want to go?
Blackdragon: What part of town will you be coming
from?
Teresa: Ne
Blackdragon: Let's grab a drink then.
Teresa: when and where?
Blackdragon: Ever been to xxxxxxx?
Teresa: Yep
Blackdragon: It will be a little later, like 8 ish.
Teresa: Ok
Blackdragon: You sure you can make it tonight?
Blackdragon: Sometimes you flake, Darling. :)
Teresa: Yeah
Teresa: haha yeah yeah
Blackdragon: Haha. You dork! Ok. Lol
Teresa: lol ur a dork!!
Blackdragon: I know!!!!! :)
Blackdragon: I'll text u later on the eve to give a specific
time. I'm guessing 8 but it could be a little
later. Cool?
Teresa: i guess so :-)
Blackdragon: K
<About three hours later.>
Blackdragon: Want to meet there in 30 min?

Teresa: im having dinner with my girlfriends, how
about 830?
Blackdragon: Ok.
Teresa: prefect ;-) see u then
Blackdragon: ;)
<We met up for the first date, talked four about an hour, then
ended up in the back seat of my car where we made out, I
sucked her tits, fingered her, and did a bunch of other fun
stuff, but didn’t get to actual sex. A few hours later, way
into the late evening, she texts me…>
Teresa: thanks for a fun night

Blackdragon: Anytime. ;)
Teresa: so what are u doing now?
Blackdragon: Just went to bed. My fun is over for the
eve lol
Teresa: oh no! haha im heading to bed soon
Blackdragon: U can stay up late tonight. I can't. Sux. :)
Teresa: I know, to bad we couldnt "talk" more
Blackdragon: Yes. We should continue our
'conversation' soon.
Teresa: Haha yeah? think u can have fun with me?
Blackdragon: I'm not 100 percent sure about you yet, but
so far so good. :)
Teresa: Haha whats that mean?
Blackdragon: Its all good, trust me.
Teresa: Haha okay good
Blackdragon: Mmmmm. It is. But I'm falling asleep so
I'll have to ttyl.
Teresa: Okay sweet dreams. Ttyl
<Two days later.>
Blackdragon: I told your story about your ex and his gf

getting in your face and what you did to a
friend of mine. She said 'That's awesome!'.
:)
Teresa: ahahahah! nice
Blackdragon: You're such a little badass.

Teresa: lol oh u think so huh?
Blackdragon: Well...I know your skin tastes good.
Teresa: haha oh yeah?
Blackdragon: Mmmmm.
Teresa: do what did u think of me in general?
Blackdragon: I think you should see me sunday or
monday eve.
Teresa: haha okay, but what did u think of me? lol
Blackdragon: I think so far so good. We got along well
that night.
Teresa: yeah we did haha
We had sex the next time we met. We hooked up for a few

weeks as pure FBs until she floated away. She’s a perfect
example of a woman who is sexual right from the get-go.
Some younger women will be this easy, as long as you put in
the numbers.
Transcript Two: “Mandie”
Mandie was a 19 year-old college freshman I met on Yahoo

Personals back when it was still around (it’s long gone now).
I was 36 at the time. You can see in the conversation how I
handled the age difference. We had a very fast first date at a
Starbucks that was less than 45 minutes, then had sex on the
second date in less than two hours.
This is a transcript of a Yahoo Messenger IM conversation

we had right after she responded to my opener on the
personals site, so this is literally the first communication we
ever had (other than two or three emails on the dating site).
Blackdragon (8:56:30 PM): Had a nice day today?

Mandie (8:56:44 PM): yeah it was pretty great
Mandie (8:56:47 PM): what about you?
Blackdragon (8:57:04 PM): Oh yeah. I'm glad to be back to
"stuff" after all the damn snow.
Blackdragon (8:57:05 PM): :)
Mandie (8:57:16 PM): haha
Mandie (8:57:27 PM): i spent most of it on the beach in
xxxxxx.
Blackdragon (8:57:34 PM): Where? xxxxxxx?
Mandie (8:57:38 PM): xxxxxxxxx
Blackdragon (8:57:48 PM): Hm...I've never been there...is it
nice?
Mandie (8:57:59 PM): it's a small little beach town
Mandie (8:58:09 PM): kinda like xxxxxxx maybe?
Blackdragon (8:58:12 PM): Ah.
Mandie (8:58:14 PM): more quiant though
Blackdragon (8:58:23 PM): Do you have family there? Or
friends?
Mandie (8:58:42 PM): yeah my moms side of the family was
born and raised there
Blackdragon (8:58:51 PM): Did you grow up here then?
Mandie (8:59:06 PM): born in xxxxxxxxxx

Mandie (8:59:17 PM): lived there till was 8
Mandie (8:59:27 PM): then i was adopted by my
grandmother and moved here
Mandie (8:59:29 PM): =]
Blackdragon (8:59:33 PM): Really?
Mandie (8:59:34 PM): what an opening eh?
Blackdragon (8:59:39 PM): Why adopted???
Mandie (8:59:54 PM): my birth mom couldn't provide
Mandie (9:00:02 PM): was a drugie and and all that
Blackdragon (9:00:11 PM): Crap. Do you live alone now or
with Grandma?
Mandie (9:00:20 PM): grandmother
Blackdragon (9:00:26 PM): To you have sibs?
Mandie (9:00:28 PM): it's a nice set up
Mandie (9:00:35 PM): yeah a younger brother
Blackdragon (9:00:56 PM): Wow...is your Grandma the type
that lets you do whatever you want? Or is she strict?
Mandie (9:01:16 PM): we used to butt heads a lot
Mandie (9:01:23 PM): but we get along fine now
Blackdragon (9:01:29 PM): Yeah...you seem strong-willed.
Mandie (9:01:33 PM): so long as i'm not pushing drugs or
anything
Blackdragon (9:01:42 PM): Yeah, that's good. :)
Mandie (9:01:48 PM): tell me about yourself now
Mandie (9:01:57 PM): i just gave you an epic story
Mandie (9:02:00 PM): =]
Blackdragon (9:02:04 PM): I'm a professional javelin
catcher.
Blackdragon (9:02:11 PM): JK
Mandie (9:02:12 PM): really?
Mandie (9:02:14 PM): haha
Mandie (9:02:16 PM): k good
Blackdragon (9:02:21 PM): I'm actually a calculator
repairman.
Blackdragon (9:02:26 PM): JK again.
Blackdragon (9:02:33 PM): What would you like to know?
Mandie (9:02:47 PM): where were you raised?

Mandie (9:02:53 PM): how did you end up here?
Blackdragon (9:03:01 PM): I was born here, been here my
whole life....
Blackdragon (9:03:10 PM): That's probably why I travel as
much as I do...
Blackdragon (9:03:16 PM): I was born at xxxxxx hospital in
xxxxxxxxx.
Mandie (9:03:16 PM): where have you been?
Blackdragon (9:03:47 PM): Mm...all over. All over the US,
Asia, Mexico, etc.
Mandie (9:03:56 PM): been to europe?
Blackdragon (9:04:07 PM): I work with CEO's and CFO's
on how to run their companies, and sometimes they are
outside of the country.
Mandie (9:04:13 PM): right
Blackdragon (9:04:13 PM): Yes, Germany and a few other
spots.
Blackdragon (9:04:20 PM): No, that part is true.
Mandie (9:04:22 PM): i love europe
Blackdragon (9:04:44 PM): I'm also a professional speaker
and do lots of speeches and seminars and things like that.
Mandie (9:04:46 PM): haven't been to germany yet though
Blackdragon (9:04:52 PM): I speak very broken German. :)
Mandie (9:04:54 PM): that's cool
Mandie (9:05:02 PM): is that what you've always wanted to
do?
Blackdragon (9:05:11 PM): Oh yeah...it was my plan all
along.
Mandie (9:05:18 PM): that's good
Blackdragon (9:05:22 PM): Took me a while to get there,
but now it's all good.
Mandie (9:05:28 PM): great
Mandie (9:05:33 PM): that's good for you
Blackdragon (9:05:33 PM): Go to Vegas a lot too.
Mandie (9:05:35 PM): =]
Mandie (9:05:39 PM): oh vegas

Blackdragon (9:05:57 PM): I have a regular room at xxxxxx.
It's incredible.
Mandie (9:06:08 PM): you lucky guy
Mandie (9:06:11 PM): shucks
Blackdragon (9:06:14 PM): Aw, shucks!
Blackdragon (9:06:16 PM): Haha.
Mandie (9:06:18 PM): =]
Blackdragon (9:06:27 PM): Are you working or in school
right now?
Mandie (9:06:31 PM): school
Mandie (9:06:48 PM): working + school doesn't really mix
too well
Blackdragon (9:07:04 PM): I agree. It's a real pain to do
both. Then you have no life at all.
Mandie (9:07:11 PM): exactly
Mandie (9:07:13 PM): this way
Mandie (9:07:18 PM): i have some sort of personal life
Blackdragon (9:07:26 PM): Have you been dating?
Mandie (9:07:34 PM): well
Mandie (9:07:44 PM): for most of college i was a
relationship
Mandie (9:07:53 PM): but he goes to school in la
Mandie (9:08:10 PM): we only just broke up a few months
ago, so I'm trying it out
Mandie (9:08:33 PM): i know your profile said you don't
wanna hear about ex's and drama, so that's all i'm gonna say
about that
Blackdragon (9:08:41 PM): Good!
Blackdragon (9:08:47 PM): How long have you been single
then?
Mandie (9:08:48 PM): i hate drama
Blackdragon (9:08:52 PM): SO DO I.
Mandie (9:08:58 PM): since november?
Mandie (9:09:03 PM): yeah

Blackdragon (9:09:05 PM): Any dating since then or no?
Mandie (9:09:14 PM): i have seen a guy or two
Mandie (9:09:23 PM): but none that i identify with
Blackdragon (9:09:51 PM): Yeah, you come off as
intelligent and forceful. Maybe some guys can't relate.
Blackdragon (9:09:56 PM): And you cant relate to them.
Mandie (9:09:57 PM): i guess
Mandie (9:10:01 PM): i have no idea
Blackdragon (9:10:11 PM): How long where you in that
relationship then?
Blackdragon (9:10:15 PM): were
Mandie (9:10:21 PM): two years
Blackdragon (9:10:24 PM): Wow.
Blackdragon (9:10:25 PM): Long time.
Mandie (9:10:30 PM): yep
Blackdragon (9:10:35 PM): Did it end badly or OK?
Mandie (9:10:43 PM): badly for me, ok for him
Mandie (9:10:48 PM): i never saw it coming
Blackdragon (9:10:49 PM): Mmm.
Blackdragon (9:10:53 PM): Ug.
Mandie (9:10:55 PM): but whatever
Blackdragon (9:10:56 PM): Yuck.
Blackdragon (9:10:58 PM): I know the feeling.
Mandie (9:11:13 PM): it stinks, but that's life and you move
on
Blackdragon (9:11:33 PM): That's right. Actually, it means
there is someone out there better for you. Someone more
compatible, and more desirable to you.
Mandie (9:11:49 PM): exactly
Mandie (9:12:02 PM): that and i'm young
Mandie (9:12:14 PM): so why tie myself to the first guy
right?
Blackdragon (9:12:21 PM): True...
Mandie (9:12:29 PM): *shrug*
Blackdragon (9:12:43 PM): I didn't read how old you

are...how old is "young"?
Mandie (9:12:51 PM): 20 in may
Blackdragon (9:12:59 PM): HOLY CRAP.
Blackdragon (9:13:01 PM): You're 19???
Mandie (9:13:08 PM): >.<
Mandie (9:13:09 PM): gah
Mandie (9:13:11 PM): only in age
Blackdragon (9:13:13 PM): Wow.
Mandie (9:13:16 PM): legal
Mandie (9:13:17 PM): age
Blackdragon (9:13:22 PM): You don't come off like that
young at all.
Mandie (9:13:23 PM): not mental age
Blackdragon (9:13:24 PM): I'm shocked.
Blackdragon (9:13:32 PM): Holy crapola.
Blackdragon (9:13:33 PM): Hm.
Mandie (9:13:35 PM): i hate it
Mandie (9:13:38 PM): i hate being 19
Mandie (9:13:45 PM): it's such a road block
Blackdragon (9:14:06 PM): I understand...
Blackdragon (9:14:13 PM): You're aware of how old I am,
right?
Mandie (9:14:19 PM): 35 yes?
Blackdragon (9:14:23 PM): 36, but yeah.
Blackdragon (9:14:37 PM): I mention that because lots of
women can't handle an older guy.
Mandie (9:14:45 PM): older guys have no drama
Mandie (9:14:51 PM): and aren't in just for sex
Blackdragon (9:14:56 PM): Correct on both counts.
Mandie (9:15:00 PM): some might be
Mandie (9:15:04 PM): but most aren't
Blackdragon (9:15:27 PM): I don't do drama, EVER. If a
woman wants to do drama, I just tell her "There's the door".
Mandie (9:15:37 PM): yes
Mandie (9:15:45 PM): leave the baggage at the airport

Blackdragon (9:15:48 PM): Haha
Mandie (9:17:11 PM): all those damn air heads ruin it for the
rest of us
Blackdragon (9:17:24 PM): That's why I have my Big Four.
Blackdragon (9:17:33 PM): The four things I look for in a
woman.
Mandie (9:17:34 PM): big four?
Mandie (9:17:38 PM): please explain
Blackdragon (9:17:45 PM): In no particular order....
Blackdragon (9:18:07 PM): 1) Smart. She's got to be smart
or I can't relate to her. Probably the most important....
Blackdragon (9:18:15 PM): 2) Hot. (I'm still a guy after all)
Blackdragon (9:18:23 PM): 3) Likes frequent sex
Blackdragon (9:18:28 PM): 4) Not a <deleted>...I don't do
drama.
Mandie (9:18:37 PM): those a four legit things
Blackdragon (9:18:39 PM): That covers ALL the bases..
Mandie (9:18:48 PM): it does
Blackdragon (9:18:59 PM): Many women have two or three
of those things, but very few have all four.
Mandie (9:19:13 PM): ok
Mandie (9:19:15 PM): so hot
Mandie (9:19:16 PM): like
Mandie (9:19:21 PM): hot face...
Mandie (9:19:23 PM): hot bod
Mandie (9:19:26 PM): totaly package?
Mandie (9:19:33 PM): total*
Blackdragon (9:19:36 PM): Both are ideal....
Blackdragon (9:19:44 PM): But if she has a really hot bod,
for example...
Blackdragon (9:19:50 PM): And her face is so-so, it's OK...
Blackdragon (9:19:54 PM): and vice versa.
Mandie (9:19:58 PM): i see
Mandie (9:20:07 PM): there's hope for the rest of us then
Mandie (9:20:09 PM): =]
Blackdragon (9:20:25 PM): Your pics look OK...they're a

little small. Do you consider yourself not hot?
Mandie (9:20:42 PM): i have a great face
Mandie (9:20:47 PM): and really great boobs
Mandie (9:20:51 PM): not gonna lie
Mandie (9:21:06 PM): but the rest isn't jessica alba or
antyhing you know
Mandie (9:21:17 PM): you can facebook me if you want
better pictures
Blackdragon (9:21:38 PM): OK...what's your facebook (and
myspace)...I'm on both.
Mandie (9:22:05 PM): xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackdragon (9:22:31 PM): k...I'll send you a friend
request...hang on.
Mandie (9:22:43 PM): and for face book my email
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackdragon (9:23:48 PM): Looks like you moved your
friend request thingy. Send one to me.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackdragon (9:24:40 PM): k just sent you one on facebook.
Mandie (9:25:30 PM): fb has the better photos...
Blackdragon (9:25:54 PM): I do have a pretty good face.
Blackdragon (9:25:58 PM): YOU do I mean.
Mandie (9:26:08 PM): ah, why thank you
Blackdragon (9:26:19 PM): Define "great boobs"
Mandie (9:26:43 PM): there's plenty of them
Blackdragon (9:26:54 PM): In your opinion I mean.
Mandie (9:27:02 PM): and they don't come down to my
waist or anything
Blackdragon (9:27:03 PM): I know what MY opinon of
"Great boobs" are :)
Blackdragon (9:27:09 PM): They don't sag huh?
Mandie (9:27:10 PM): i like them
Mandie (9:27:15 PM): i think they look great
Blackdragon (9:27:18 PM): C cup?

Mandie (9:27:25 PM): honey
Mandie (9:27:27 PM): no way
Mandie (9:27:31 PM): DD
Blackdragon (9:27:36 PM): WHAT???
Blackdragon (9:27:39 PM): And you're 19?
Mandie (9:27:47 PM): runs in the family
Blackdragon (9:28:04 PM): Interesting.
Mandie (9:28:11 PM): i'm xxxxxxxx
Mandie (9:28:13 PM): i guess
Mandie (9:28:17 PM): so i've been told
Mandie (9:28:24 PM): and that's to blame
Mandie (9:28:28 PM): or not thank
Mandie (9:28:33 PM): or thank*
Blackdragon (9:28:56 PM): I think I just got you on
Facebook. I'll look...
Blackdragon (9:29:16 PM): Tell me what you think the best
pic of you is.
Blackdragon (9:29:19 PM): On facebook.
Mandie (9:29:19 PM): fb is the place to be
Blackdragon (9:29:27 PM): ...and I'll look at it.
Mandie (9:29:34 PM): under the album xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blackdragon (9:29:35 PM): I see your albums now.
Blackdragon (9:29:37 PM): k
Mandie (9:29:39 PM): any of those is good
Blackdragon (9:30:14 PM): No bad.
Blackdragon (9:30:21 PM): It's so hard to tell from pics
though.
Blackdragon (9:30:24 PM): But they do give you an idea.
Mandie (9:30:29 PM): mmhmm
Blackdragon (9:30:35 PM): Not bad I mean. Damn typing.
Blackdragon (9:31:36 PM): How tall are you?
Mandie (9:31:44 PM): 5'7"
Blackdragon (9:31:50 PM): Yeah, OK.
Mandie (9:31:55 PM): you?

Blackdragon (9:32:01 PM): 6'0"
Mandie (9:32:19 PM): nice
Mandie (9:32:33 PM): i have trouble taking guys shorter
than me seriously
Mandie (9:32:43 PM): i don't know why...
Blackdragon (9:33:00 PM): No, I understand. That would
be tough when you're a woman.
Blackdragon (9:33:11 PM): I guess I'd feel weird if I was a
woman with a guy shorter than me too.
Blackdragon (9:33:28 PM): My daughter's texting me...
Blackdragon (9:33:33 PM): I'm multitasking...
Blackdragon (9:33:34 PM): LOL
Mandie (9:33:42 PM): aw, how old is she?
Blackdragon (9:33:46 PM): She's 10
Mandie (9:33:49 PM): name?
Blackdragon (9:33:51 PM): xxxxxxxxx
Mandie (9:33:55 PM): =]
Mandie (9:33:59 PM): pretty
Blackdragon (9:34:13 PM): Yeah, I have 2 kids. That's the
extent of my baggage.
Mandie (9:34:25 PM): what about the other one?
Blackdragon (9:34:42 PM): xxxxxxxxxx is my son. He's 17
but he's not biologically mine if the age throws you. I just
consider him mine.
Mandie (9:34:51 PM): ah
Mandie (9:34:56 PM): i know the feeling
Blackdragon (9:35:13 PM): So you're cool dating a 36 year
old guy if we meet and we hit it off?
Blackdragon (9:35:23 PM): That's IF we hit it off.
Mandie (9:35:38 PM): it's the norm, but i don't see why the
age should matter
Mandie (9:35:40 PM): really
Blackdragon (9:35:46 PM): It doesn't to me.
Mandie (9:35:51 PM): me either

Blackdragon (9:35:52 PM): As long as it doesn't to you.
Blackdragon (9:35:53 PM): Good.
Mandie (9:35:56 PM): nope
Mandie (9:35:58 PM): not at all
Blackdragon (9:36:06 PM): When are your school hours
normally?
Mandie (9:36:25 PM): mon/wed/fri 11:15 to 3
Mandie (9:36:43 PM): and tue/thur pretty much all day...but
a few hours in between
Blackdragon (9:36:58 PM): Let me check my schedule for
this week then...
<We then had a brief back-and-forth on scheduling a first

date. We nailed down a date and time, but not a place
yet….>
Mandie (9:42:16 PM): i went to college in high school

Mandie (9:42:22 PM): so i'm a junior
Blackdragon (9:42:28 PM): WOW. And you're 19???
Blackdragon (9:42:30 PM): Damn.
Mandie (9:42:34 PM): yep
Blackdragon (9:42:40 PM): Smart. Good.
Mandie (9:42:43 PM): i'm not fluffling arounf
Mandie (9:42:46 PM): around*
Mandie (9:42:52 PM): fluffing*
Mandie (9:42:54 PM): gosh
Blackdragon (9:43:02 PM): Stop doing those drugs.
Mandie (9:43:02 PM): tonight is not a good typing night
Blackdragon (9:43:28 PM): OK...hang on...I'm looking for a
place to meet downtown.
<My bad. I should have instantly had a place to suggest

from a pre-researched list. However this was a few years
ago and my system was not yet perfected at this point.>
Blackdragon (9:43:40 PM): Can't do a bar since one of us is

underage.
Mandie (9:43:43 PM): drugs?
Mandie (9:43:46 PM): how did you know
Mandie (9:43:51 PM): pfft
Blackdragon (9:43:57 PM): Weed? Cool.
Mandie (9:44:11 PM): i'm lucky to ditch my middle school
lunch break
Mandie (9:44:38 PM): weed?
Mandie (9:44:40 PM): really?
Mandie (9:44:43 PM): you're good =]
Blackdragon (9:44:50 PM): I was right aren't I?
Mandie (9:44:58 PM): hit the nail on the head
Mandie (9:45:02 PM): nah man
Blackdragon (9:45:19 PM): Still looking for a spot. Hang
on...
Mandie (9:45:36 PM): hey man, i'm down for just a cup of
joe
Blackdragon (9:45:42 PM): Exactly.
Mandie (9:45:48 PM): doesn't have to be fancy
Mandie (9:45:56 PM): starbucks on xxxxxx and xxxxxxx
Blackdragon (9:45:58 PM): Yeah, I'm looking at the
Starbucks down there.
Blackdragon (9:46:07 PM): Yeah, let's do that.
Mandie (9:46:10 PM): kk
Blackdragon (9:46:26 PM): Unless it's one of those that gets
really super croweded because of the campus being so close.
Blackdragon (9:46:37 PM): crowded
Mandie (9:46:39 PM): nah
Mandie (9:46:41 PM): not super
Mandie (9:46:49 PM): it's usually pretty chill at that one
Blackdragon (9:46:56 PM): OK. My cell is xxx.xxx.xxxx.
Mandie (9:47:03 PM): do you text?
Blackdragon (9:47:08 PM): Hell yeah. Any time.
Blackdragon (9:47:29 PM): Do you go by xxxxx?
Mandie (9:47:52 PM): it really doesn't matter

Blackdragon (9:47:54 PM): You're eclectic.
Mandie (9:47:57 PM): xxxxxxx was more high school
Blackdragon (9:47:58 PM): As they say.
Mandie (9:48:02 PM): =]
Mandie (9:48:06 PM): xxxxxxx is fine
Mandie (9:48:09 PM): it's easy
Blackdragon (9:48:23 PM): OK...I need to go pick up my
daughter it looks like....
Blackdragon (9:48:32 PM): So I'm going to log off here in a
min...
Mandie (9:48:37 PM): mmkay
Blackdragon (9:48:38 PM): You've got my number....
Mandie (9:48:41 PM): yes
Mandie (9:48:43 PM): oh
Mandie (9:48:51 PM): mine is xxx xxx xxxx
Blackdragon (9:48:54 PM): Cool.
Mandie (9:48:59 PM): sorry
Mandie (9:49:04 PM): i was thinking about that then forgot
Blackdragon (9:49:08 PM): Starbucks on xxxx and xxxx at
2:30pm tomorrow, right?
Mandie (9:49:12 PM): yep yep
Mandie (9:49:25 PM): throw me text when you're there or
almost there
Blackdragon (9:49:32 PM): OK....
Blackdragon (9:49:48 PM): I shall.
Mandie (9:49:50 PM): =]
Mandie (9:49:58 PM): take care tonight, drive safe
Blackdragon (9:50:03 PM): You to.
Blackdragon (9:50:04 PM): Night.
Mandie (9:50:08 PM): peace
Our Starbucks date was less than one hour. Our second date
was walking around the mall and then sex at my place,
within about two hours. She was right, her boobs really
were DD’s…
Transcript Three: “Danni”
This is the same Danni I talk about in the Younger Woman

Case Studies book that accompanies this book package. She
was a 22 year-old gal, dark hair, dark eyes, milky white skin
with an amazing, damn near perfect body. As you’ve
probably already read in the case studies book, we got sexual
but once I started seeing her I screwed up badly in several
areas. However her transcript is still instructional. It’s our
first IM conversation after a brief email back-and-forth over
Plenty of Fish right after a recent snowstorm.
Danni (11:38:09 AM): not sure if its been 10 mins or not

Blackdragon (11:38:30 AM): :)
Blackdragon (11:38:36 AM): Give me like one minute
here...
Danni (11:38:46 AM): take your time im gunna brush my
teeth then
Danni (11:49:34 AM): sorry im in the middle of doing my
hair
Blackdragon (11:49:50 AM): Haha. Hey, hair's important. :)
Danni (11:50:19 AM): yes it is haha. our house keeper is
coming soon so I need to be out of the house soon or at least
out of the bathroom
Danni (11:50:20 AM): haha
Blackdragon (11:50:44 AM): Well I'm done with my other
stuff for the moment. Just let me know when you're done.
Danni (11:52:36 AM): illl just be back and forth since my
straightner sucks I need to let it reheat
Danni (11:52:48 AM): I havent even figured out if I can
make it out of my driveway yet haha
Blackdragon (11:53:13 AM): Yep, I was out shoveling a few
days ago. Looks like I'll have to do it again.
Blackdragon (11:53:21 AM): What were you saying about
that last guy you dated?
Danni (11:53:31 AM): oh he disappointed me
Blackdragon (11:53:38 AM): He cheated?

Blackdragon (11:53:55 AM): (guys do that a lot)
Danni (11:53:59 AM): well we werent very official
Blackdragon (11:54:12 AM): Well, that's different then.
Danni (11:54:14 AM): but he pursued the <deleted> out of
me and then backed off a bit
Danni (11:54:26 AM): claims to still want me but whatever
Blackdragon (11:54:30 AM): How did he dissapoint you
then?
Danni (11:54:38 AM): he posted a pic online of him making
out with some chick
Danni (11:54:46 AM): but they were "just taking funny pics"
Danni (11:54:54 AM): whatever I really don't care not worth
my time
Blackdragon (11:55:01 AM): How old is this guy? Under
25?
Danni (11:55:03 AM): I am not one to complain about the
past
Danni (11:55:07 AM): past is the past
Danni (11:55:08 AM): yes
Blackdragon (11:55:19 AM): I just realized you are 22. You
know how old I am?
Danni (11:55:46 AM): yes
Danni (11:56:00 AM): I usually date older guys, my dad was
16 years older than my mom no biggie to me
Blackdragon (11:56:15 AM): Ah, OK. Some women can't
handle other guys.
Danni (11:56:29 AM): you mean older?
Blackdragon (11:56:37 AM): I'm a dork. Yeah. older.
Danni (11:57:18 AM): gotcha so what are you looking for
exactly?
Danni (11:57:22 AM): sorry im kinda upfront and blunt
Blackdragon (11:57:43 AM): Holy crap, why are you sorry
about that? That's a good thing.
Blackdragon (11:57:47 AM): What I want...
Blackdragon (11:58:21 AM): I've been able to narrow it

down to 4 big things. It's an over simplification, but this
way I can screen potentials better. :)
Blackdragon (11:58:53 AM): In no particular order (they're
all equally important)
Blackdragon (11:58:57 AM): 1. Smart.
Blackdragon (11:59:00 AM): 2. Hot.
Blackdragon (11:59:08 AM): 3. Sexually comfortable.
Blackdragon (11:59:11 AM): 4. Not a <deleted>.
Blackdragon (11:59:24 AM): Lots of women have 2 or 3 of
the 4, but very few women have all 4.
Danni (12:06:57 PM): well how do you think I fair so far?
Danni (12:07:07 PM): to help you with one
Danni (12:07:19 PM): I am going to school to get my
doctorate in pharmacy
Blackdragon (12:07:27 PM): Really.
Danni (12:07:34 PM): so I like to think I have some sort of
smarts
Danni (12:07:49 PM): and I got a b in my macroeconomics
class ( I think that was a miracle though)
Danni (12:08:03 PM): and I probably could have gotten an a
if I put a little more effort into studying haha
Blackdragon (12:08:19 PM): What is it about pharmacy that
attracts you?
Danni (12:09:28 PM): well I was in xxxxxxxxxxx
Danni (12:09:34 PM): as a xxxxxxxxx
Danni (12:09:45 PM): and we did alot of the xxxxxxxx work
on the weekends
Danni (12:10:18 PM): and I love it, I love being one of the
people who can provide relief to people who are ill/in pain
ect
Blackdragon (12:10:59 PM): How many more years before
you get the PhD? Are you working too?
Danni (12:11:51 PM): im at <college> right now getting me
pre reqs out of the way which another year and a half or so
and then xxxxxxx university for pharmacy school is 3 years
Danni (12:12:10 PM): and I am a xxxxx at xxxxxxxxxx but

looking for a job as a pharmacy tech
Blackdragon (12:12:57 PM): Hm. Smart is good. I HATE
dumb bimbos. I've dated enough of those. Drive me nuts.
Danni (12:13:28 PM): haha well if you make good money
like you say you do I can imagine you would attract a few of
those
Blackdragon (12:13:40 PM): All the more reaons I have to
screen women carefully. :)
Blackdragon (12:13:54 PM): Plus intelligence is attractive.
Danni (12:13:55 PM): yea I can understand that
Danni (12:14:07 PM): yes it is, that goes both ways
Danni (12:14:16 PM): oh and I have a really hard time being
a <deleted>
Danni (12:14:25 PM): it can be a curse and a blessing at the
same time
Blackdragon (12:14:58 PM): Haha. I don't know about
that...not being a <deleted> is hard for a lot of women.
Whiny moments are OK. Everyone has those. It's the
whiny overall attitude that I don't like.
Danni (12:18:37 PM): haha no I am not like that
Danni (12:18:47 PM): I am sure people say that all the time
but im really not
Blackdragon (12:19:40 PM): OK. I'm officially curious.
Are you out of town next week?
Danni (12:20:24 PM): no but I have a friend coming in to
town
Danni (12:20:59 PM): hey not sure if you are ok with this
but my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx if you want to text me you
can if not then I will talk to you on here later tonight
Danni (12:21:06 PM): cause I gotta head out the door
Blackdragon (12:21:25 PM): I'll text or call you later then.
Drive safe.
Danni (12:21:34 PM): thanks ill try, ciao
Blackdragon (12:21:35 PM): Wait! What's your name?
Danni (12:21:38 PM): Danni
Blackdragon (12:21:45 PM): k. TTYL
Transcript Four: “Britney”
Britney is hands-down one of the best looking women I’ve

ever had sex with in my life, and that’s saying something.
At the time of this transcript she was 19 years old. Picture
Britney Spears at age 19 except with brown hair instead of
blonde, that was “Britney.” She was a huge victory for me
at the time, especially considering she was quite nervous to
meet up with me in the beginning (as many VYW are) and
was somewhat concerned about the age difference.
Britney was one of my first VWY, and I was still getting the
hang of things in terms of attracting VWY. Reading over
this conversation now, years later, it’s clear I was way too
verbose in this conversation. I can tell I was trying a little
too hard (at least for me). I actually cringe a little as I read
it. Regardless, this conversation did “work” so I still wanted
to show it to you. Just realize I would have done things
differently today, namely I would have talked less, had her
talk more, and would have ended the conversation much
more quickly.
This was our first IM conversation after a few on Yahoo

Personals (I think. It may have been fPlenty of Fish
instead…not sure on this one, but my memory of her was
Yahoo.) The conversation was so long I have removed a
few chunks that I deemed irrelevant (and that were probably
not good examples of what to do anyway).
Blackdragon: Hiya
Britney: Hey there
Britney: How's it going?
Blackdragon: Busy!!! I'm headed down to the xxxx in a
bit. Some friends want to party on a
Sunday night!!!! Too bad I have a life or I
could stay out late.
Britney: Well hopefully you have a good time : )

Have work in the AM?
Blackdragon: Somewhat. I set my own schedule. So I
have work to do, but I could sleep in a
little. :)
Britney: Well that is nice for you
Britney: wish I could say the same!
Blackdragon: Yes, it is. :)
Blackdragon: Do you work or are you in school?
Britney: I work, I am a xxxxxxx.
Blackdragon: You must love kids then.
Britney: I do love kids : ) very much so
<We talk a bit about her love for kids.>
Blackdragon: Have you been dating a lot or a little or not

at all, lately?
Britney: Just a little bit lately, had some first dates
and not really hit it off well enough to go
for another
Britney: how about yourself?
Blackdragon: I date. Havn't found that one person yet
though. I'm picky though, so most of that
is my fault.
Britney: I am picky as well, it is the way to be
Blackdragon: It is. I won't settle in my next big
relationship. But until she comes, I don't
mind dating. Most people hate it (and I
guess I understand).
Britney: Yeah, dating can be draining
Blackdragon: Hell yes!!!
Blackdragon: It's a nessessary evil though. The higher
standards you have for that one person, the
more numbers you have to put into the big
'ol dating funnel. And my standards are
high so I just accept that I'll be on a lot of
first (and maybe second) dates for a while.
Britney: Do many ladies make it to date 2? : )

Blackdragon: Oh, about 40 out of the last 150 or so.
Blackdragon: :)
Blackdragon: jk
Britney: haha, that is a lot of first dates!
Britney: Are you sure you are joking?
Britney: :)
Blackdragon: Ok, maybe about the last 120 or so.
Blackdragon: :)
Britney: Very nice
Blackdragon: Hey, a guy's gotta date, ya know?
Blackdragon: :)
Blackdragon: Yes, I'm a smartass.
Britney: I do know, smartass is ok with me :)
Blackdragon: Speaking of smartass..
Blackdragon: How smart would you say you are on a
scale from 1 to 10? And BE HONEST.
Britney: 9.
Blackdragon: Are you being on honest? Or just not
humble?
Blackdragon: :)
Britney: I am being honest. I think I am a very
smart girl.
Blackdragon: And why would you say that?
Blackdragon: Or should I say, TYPE that?
Britney: Because I am confident that I am a smart
young lady : ) How else am I supposed to
answer that?
Blackdragon: Heh
Blackdragon: You're supposed to answer that in a smart
way.
Blackdragon: Haha
Blackdragon: I can tell that you're confident though.
<We talk a bit about her school and her grades>
Blackdragon: How old are you?
Blackdragon: Please don't tell me you're like 15 or

something.
Blackdragon: :)
Blackdragon: ....or 57 or something.
<Long pause before she reponds>
Britney: 19
Blackdragon: OMG, 19????
Blackdragon: Wow.
Blackdragon: You're a baby.
Blackdragon: Do you know how old I am?
Britney: 30's
Britney: I am young, I typically date older men
though
Blackdragon: I'm 36. Can you handle an older guy?
Lots of women can't.
Britney: I can handle just about anyone : )
Blackdragon: Heh.
Blackdragon: Historically, I've dated all ages, including
pretty young. There are pro's and cons to
every age group.
Britney: I agree.
Blackdragon: I try not to judge people based on age,
since I know there are women you're age
who are really sharp and mature.
Britney: I would say that I fall into that group. I
have been told quite often that I am very
mature for my age, if I didn't have such a
baby face I would certainly be mistaken
for older
Blackdragon: Your pics didn't scream "19", so you
probably do carry yourself a little older.
That's good. I sometimes and leery about
dating much younger women but I have
done it in the past (once or twice).
Britney: It makes sense. Most of the older guys I

have dated have been a bit skeptical about
dating someone younger, but I cant say I
have ever had someone lose interest due to
my age.
Blackdragon: Naw, it wasn't because of your age. It was
because you probably smell.
Blackdragon: jk :)
Britney: haha, If you want the truth, I have never
been "dumped"
Britney: Not even for smelling :)
Blackdragon: Well, hell, how many relationships have
you actually had?
Blackdragon: I don't mean dating now, I mean
relationships.
Britney: Relationships? I would say only 4. But I
have had my share of month or so long
"flings"
Britney: I typically lose interest
FYI Note – Britney is a hardcore serial monogamist. She’s

has about 10 “serious” monogamous boyfriends in the last
few years. I’m serious.
Blackdragon: Yes, women get bored very easily.

Blackdragon: Men take off because they get horny.
Women take off because they get bored.
It's kinda sad.
Britney: It is sad, but I think when you find the
right one the need for more entertainment
or sex with someone else wont arrise
Blackdragon: Exactly.
Blackdragon: So few people understand that.
Blackdragon: Men and women both.
Blackdragon: You do seem smart.
Blackdragon: At least a little.
Blackdragon: It's one of the big four.
Britney: And you are a smartass

Britney: More then a little ;)
Britney: And the other 3?
Blackdragon: In no particular order:
Blackdragon: 1. Smart
Blackdragon: 2. Hot
Blackdragon: 3. Likes and is comfortable with frequent
sex.
Blackdragon: 4. Not a <deleted>.
Blackdragon: MANY women have 3 of the 4
Blackdragon: But few have all four.
Britney: I do.
Blackdragon: Haha. That's what they all say. :)
Britney: I'm sure.
Britney: Just being honest : )
Blackdragon: Well, that would be nice. Having all four
is very rare. I guess we'll see.
Britney: Perhaps
Blackdragon: I just know that LOTS of women say, "Oh
yeah! I'm smart" or "Oh yeah, I LOVE
sex" or "Oh yeah, I don't get whiny!"
Blackdragon: Heh.
Britney: I am smart. Not the best at math, but I can
hold an intelligent conversation and have
opinions and thoughts on many subjects. I
am not a <deleted>, but have my whiny
moments, who doesn't? And as far as sex
goes, of course I love sex. But I love good
sex, and many men are not capable.
Blackdragon: Smart is good. I hate dumb bimbos. Ugh.
And yes, whiny MOMENTS are ok. It's
just the "drama all the time" crap that I
don't put up with. And yes, most men are
not sexually skilled or make a study out of
what pleases a women. So I get you there.
FYI Note – Not sure if you can tell, but in the last few
exchanges I was trying way oo hard. I would never be as
flattering today.
Britney: Who does like drama?

Blackdragon: 90% of women and about 40% of men
need regular drama.
Blackdragon: I don't.
Britney: Some seem to thrive on it, I wouldn't put
myself in that category
Britney: 90% of women? I dont think so.
Blackdragon: Within that 90%, there are some women
who need it all the time and others who
need it once and a while. A woman who
never, ever does drama (outside of rare
whiny moments) is very rare. I have meet
a few, so I know they're out there. They're
just rare.
Britney: I see.
Blackdragon: Men are dumb, women are insane. It's just
the way it is. :)
Britney: Amen.
Blackdragon: I accept that as a man, I'm an idiot. Even
if I'm smarter than most, I'm still a dumb
guy.
Blackdragon: And I accept that women are crazy. I
accept it and don't fight it. :)
Britney: That is the way to go
Blackdragon: I'm texting my friends downtown. They're
telling me to leave. I just told them I'm
talking to one of my CEO's. :)
Britney: haha, well if you must get going that is
quite alright
Blackdragon: Yeah, I do need to leave in a few minutes.
Blackdragon: Let's schedule a time to meet.
Britney: Though I will say that your smartass

comments and wit make you quite
amusing
Blackdragon: I'm here to please. You'll be getting my
bill for $750.
Blackdragon: I don't give this quality <deleted> out for
free.
Britney: You won't be getting my check, but if you
are lucky you might get some of my time.
Blackdragon: Ooooooo. SPANK!
Britney: :)
Blackdragon: Before I go...
Blackdragon: I'm checking my sched...
Blackdragon: Hang on a sec...
Britney: Alright
Blackdragon: Are days or eves better for you?
Britney: Evenings for sure
<We schedule a first date.>
Britney: Sounds good. Where would you like to

meet?
Blackdragon: Do you know the xxxxxxx well? Or
somewhat?
Britney: Actually I don't, but I have become quite
familiar with mapquest :)
Blackdragon: Good answer!
Blackdragon: Ok..
Blackdragon: On xxxxx and xxxxxx there is a place
called "xxxxxx"
Blackdragon: I don't actually know the address for
Mapquest, but I know it's on xxxxx and
xxxxxx downtown...
Britney: I'm sure I can figure it out
Blackdragon: You can.
Blackdragon: I know the owner so I can get you in even

though you're under 21. You'll have to
dress like an over-21-year-old though. :)
Britney: Can do. Suggestions?
Blackdragon: Suggestions? For what?
Britney: Dress
Blackdragon: Just don't wear anything that screams
"teenager". Look hot.
Blackdragon: I personally don't care, but the place is a
lounge.
Britney: haha, that shouldnt be an issue
Blackdragon: I didn't think so.
Blackdragon: :)
Blackdragon: OK....
Blackdragon: I've gotta leave. I have you down for 7pm
at xxxxx on Thursday night. My cell is
xxx.xxx.xxxx. Keep that.
Blackdragon: We can text that way.
Britney: xxx xxx xxxx
Blackdragon: Got it. Gonna take off now. It
was...interesting meeting you. Gnite. :)
Britney: You too. Have fun : )
Technically it worked, but I was verbalizing way too much

and a too wordy. It just goes to show that if your frame is
strong, you’re confident and outcome independent, you can
screw up a little and it still works.

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The Blackdragon Dating System: Volume One

How To Fill Your

How to fill you calendar with dates from the kinds of

Other Ebooks in the

How To Fill Your Calendar

Revision 1.7 / July 2012

SCARY LEGAL STUFF YOU NEED TO READ: Don’t

2. The Sequence And The Attitude 9

4. Choose Your Battlefield 22

6. Choose Your Targets 39

7. The Email Opener 47

9. Scheduling The First Date 57

10. Comfort Bombardment 64

11. Battling The Flake Factor 70

12. You Did It! 73

13. Going Forward From Here 75

My goal was to set things up where I could literally “press a

I wanted a system that was reliable and repeatable. A

First, I had to figure out where to find these women.

For finding the women, I didn’t want to scour the streets,

So I went to the internet.

I tried approaching women on sites like MySpace and

(Since then, I have completely mastered the art of dating

So I quickly moved on to dating sites. I figured these were

And I was right.

Within a few weeks of experimentation, I was going out on

It took a while. I had to test and experiment with different

But after months of experimentation, I got there. I had my

I had solved the first part of the equation: where to find

So I went on tons of first dates. I made notes on what

I continued to experiment, trying different things on

Soon, I noticed specific patterns of things I ran into again

This was all a few years ago. My system is now perfected. I

and money. Even better, every woman I have sex with is an

The good news is that this system is reliable and repeatable.

I have broken this system down into two separate manuals.

Whether your goal is to just date and have fun, or find a

One more thing…I use lots of terms and acronyms in this

Let’s get started!

In this book, you are going to learn how to schedule as many

1. Determine your dating sites to use.

2. Set up your profile.

4. Email blitz to targets.

5. Communicate with prospects.

6. Schedule dates with prospects.

7. Establish comfort with confirmed prospects.

8. Ensure minimum amount of “flaking” prior to the first

9. Have the first date.

1. Target. A woman who you’ve seen on the internet and

2. Prospect. A women you’re communicating with online

3. Confirmed Prospect. A woman who has scheduled a

4. Dating Prospect. A woman you’ve been on at least

5. ONS. One Night Stand. A woman you have sex with,

6. FB. Friends with Benefits. A woman you’ve dated

7. WD. Woman you’re Dating. A woman you are

8. LTR. Long Term Relationship. A woman you’ve

relaxed, with a level of rapport, comfort, and mystery

Here are some overall realties to keep in mind as you date