2012-197 Re5r05a

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The document discusses potential causes and repairs for a 2-3 chatter issue in a transmission. Key components discussed include the case, valve body, center support, center sun shaft, output shaft, and high/low reverse drum.

The document lists several components that could cause a 2-3 chatter: the case, valve body, center support, center sun shaft, output shaft, and high/low reverse drum. It explains that a mismatch between fluid and clutch material or insufficient clamping force could cause the chatter.

The document describes how fluid flows from the valve body to the center support, then through the center sun shaft and output shaft to apply the high/low reverse clutch when a 2-3 chatter occurs.

IMPORT 197

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump

A 2-3 chatter can be caused by many things let’s take a look at the circuit and the areas
you need to pay close attention to.

A 2-3 can be caused by several components. Any or all of these components can be damaged.

1. Case
2. Valve Body
3. Center Support
4. Center Sun Shaft
5. Output Shaft
6. High/Low Reverse Drum
The first thing we have to understand is how the chatter is caused. You either have a mis-
matched combination between fluid and clutch material or you don’t have enough clamping
force to apply the clutches.

More often then not, especially with this unit, the sealing rings become a serious issue. Not
because of the way they’re manufactured, rather the amount of sealing rings necessary to
apply the High/Low Reverse Clutch. There are (6) sealing rings needed to allow the clutch
to operate, (2) seals on the Output Shaft and (4) seals on the Center Sun Shaft.

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198 IMPORT

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Case
During the repairs, make sure the case is not damaged and you have a good solid fit of the
Center Support into the case. Use the following illustration for air checking the High/Low
Reverse Clutch. You can use between 10-20 psi to charge the system. There will be a sig-
nificant air leak, but it will charge the piston.

We suggest removing the return spring assmebly from the piston and reinstalling the
clutches for the TEST. This will allow you to test the system and verify the piston is sealing.

High/Low Reverse
Drum air test port
at the case.

High/Low Reverse
Drum air test port at
the center support

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IMPORT 199

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Fluid enters the center support though the case from the valve body. From there it is direct-
ed though the center shaft into the output shaft and back up though the center shaft. From
there the fluid is directed into the high/low reverse piston.

From the Case

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200 IMPORT

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Center Support
Once the fluid leaves the valve body it enters the Center Support. The Center Support is lo-
cated at the bottom of the transmission and is bolted to the case with (3) allen bolts. Make
sure the bolts are properly installed and torqued properly.

Fluid enters the Center Support and is directed thru the center support feed holes to the
middle of the support.

To the Center
Sun Shaft

From the
Valve Body

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IMPORT 201

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Center Sun Shaft


After exiting the Center Support fluid enters between the lower two sealing rings. These
rings only purpose is to take oil from the Center Support to the High/Low Reverse drum
without having directional feed tubes. It has to use the output shaft as a fluid diverter.

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202 IMPORT

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Output Shaft
The two seals on the output shaft are very important. These seals are used to direct oil from
the center support and sun gear shaft to the High/Low Reverse Drum. Also check the shaft
ring lands for mis-machining or ring land damage.

Poor ring groove caus-


ing a 2-3 chatter.

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IMPORT 203

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

High/Low Reverse Drum

The High/Low Reverse Drum assembly is very difficult to air test, there are multiple inlets
for fluid to engage the piston. Having a good seal is essential to repairing the transmission.

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204 IMPORT

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Valve Body 2nd Gear Position


In the 2nd gear position the High/Low Reverse Clutch Valve is stroked against the spring
by Pilot Valve (A) oil. Mainline oil is at the valve but is stopped by the valve land. Always
check for valve wear, spring damage, plug or end cap leakage.

Cooler RE5R05A (2002 - Mid 04)


2nd
In Out
Gear
ND
MANUAL VALVE

PR A/T Fluid Temp Sensor Front Brake


Band
Lube Accumulator N-D Accumulator
Pressure Control Low Coast Brake
TCC Regulator
Regulator Valve Reducing Valve
Valve
Valve
Front Brake
Low Coast
Brake Rear
x Control Valve
x Switching
Valve
Lube Cancel
Oil Strainer x N-R
ACC
N-R
ACC
(Balance Pistons)
x
Line Press x Direct Clutch
Relief Valve x xx (Large Cavity)
x
x
x
Pressure
Sump x Pilot Pilot SW2
(LC/B)
Low Coast
Valve Valve
A B Brake
IN Pressure
Pump SW1 (FR/B) Direct Clutch
OUT Cooler (Small Cavity)
Bypass
Valve
High & Low
x
Reverse Clutch
x
TC IN x Reverse Clutch
x x x x
x x
TC Forward
CL T/C Lube T/C CL Direct CL Input CL Direct
Clutch Brake Clutch
Valve Control
Valve
Control
Control
Valve Press Switching
Valve Tap Valve
TC OUT Input Clutch

Pressure Pressure Pressure


SW3 (I/C) SW5 (D/C) SW6 (H&LR/C) High & Low
Reverse Clutch
Control Valve x
Pressure
Taps
ON OFF OFF ON ON ON

OFF

Line Press Torque Direct CL Front Brake Input CL High & Low Low Coast
Solenoid Conv CL Solenoid Solenoid Solenoid Rev CL Brake
(Pulsed N/V) Solenoid (Pulsed N/A) (Pulsed N/V) (Pulsed N/A) Solenoid Solenoid
(Pulsed N/V) (Pulsed N/A) (On/Off N/C

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IMPORT 205

RE5R05A
2-3 Chatter/Flare/Slide Bump (continued)

Valve Body 3rd Gear Position


When the High/Low Reverse solenoid is turned off oil flows through the solenoid and is di-
rected towards the spring side of the High/Low Reverse valve causing it to stroke away from
the spring allowing oil to be distributed to the High/Low Reverse Drum.

Cooler RE5R05A (2002 - Mid 04)


3rd
In Out
Gear
ND
MANUAL VALVE

PR A/T Fluid Temp Sensor Front Brake


Band
Lube Accumulator N-D Accumulator
Pressure Control Low Coast Brake
TCC Regulator
Regulator Valve Reducing Valve
Valve
Valve
Front Brake
Low Coast
Brake Rear
x Control Valve
x Switching
Valve
Lube Cancel
Oil Strainer x N-R
ACC
N-R
ACC
(Balance Pistons)
x
Line Press x Direct Clutch
Relief Valve x xx (Large Cavity)
x
x
x
Pressure
Sump x Pilot Pilot SW2
(LC/B)
Low Coast
Valve Valve
A B Brake
IN Pressure
Pump SW1 (FR/B) Direct Clutch
OUT Cooler (Small Cavity)
Bypass
Valve
x High & Low
x
Reverse Clutch
x
TC IN x Reverse Clutch
x x x x
x x
TC Forward
CL T/C Lube T/C CL Direct CL Input CL Direct
Clutch Brake Clutch
Valve Control
Valve
Control
Control
Valve Press Switching
Valve Tap Valve
TC OUT Input Clutch

Pressure Pressure Pressure


SW3 (I/C) SW5 (D/C) SW6 (H&LR/C) High & Low
Reverse Clutch
Control Valve x
Pressure
Taps
ON OFF OFF ON ON OFF

OFF

Line Press Torque Direct CL Front Brake Input CL High & Low Low Coast
Solenoid Conv CL Solenoid Solenoid Solenoid Rev CL Brake
(Pulsed N/V) Solenoid (Pulsed N/A) (Pulsed N/V) (Pulsed N/A) Solenoid Solenoid
(Pulsed N/V) (Pulsed N/A) (On/Off N/C)

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