Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna
Hare Krsna
Thus we hereby hope this resolve the issue and thanking NRC Chairman and
all NRC members to accept GITA in their preaching effort.
Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.
Your humble servant,
Kavinimai Dasa
Cc HG Simheswara dasa
CC HG Santi Vardhana Chaitanya dasa
Hare Krishna
Dear Kavinimai
HG Namahatta has
accepted my request of taking shelter under Iskcom Gelugor. He has
officially informed of the same to the authority of Iskcon Gelugor.
I have discussed with HG Kavinimai prabhu and HG Premraj prabhu and agreed
to their terms and condition.
Thus with immediate effect I will be officially serving under Iskcon Gelugor, Penang.
Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.
Your humble servant,
Madhusudan das.
Hare Krishna
Dear Kavinimai prabhu and Premraj prabhu
PAMHO AGTHDGSP AGTSGAG
Below is the draft of the letter as you have requested.
Please kindly do the necessary edition.
It would be advisable to send this mail privately to Santi prabhu
and ask for his opinion before sending to NRC Chairman and the members
and cc to Santi prabhu and Simeshwara prabhu.
The Regional Secretary, HG Simheswara prabhu has given his approval for NGO GITA
to continue with its operation. And on the advice of National Secretary, HG Santi
prabhu, NGO GITA has to be adopted by any one of the existing ISKCON Centres in its
operational area.
We had a healthy meeting with NGO GITA recently and ISKCON Gelugor has accepted to adopt NGO
GITA officially. Thus we are informing NRC of settlement of this issue.
GITA has been made aware that there should be no duplication or clash of events and activities with other
ISKCON centres / Namahattas in its respective areas. GITA is to strictly adhere to the rules & regulations
of ISKCON and work hand and glove with ISKCON Gelugor.
ISKCON Gelugor will take full responsibility in case of any issues that may arise on GITAs conduct.
ISKCON Gelugor is however confident that GITA will operate ethically and be mindful in its management
as an NGO. ISKCON Gelugor is happy to extend its family and believe we can enhance our preaching
further with the help of GITA. Thus we hereby hope that NRC Chairman and all NRC members will be
cooperative and accept GITA as part of the ISKCON family.
Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.
Your humble servant,
Madhusudan das.
Dear HG Madhusudana Prabhu,
please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Thank you so much for the detailed report on GITA activities
and your sincere attempt to glorify ISKCON.
However, the report DOES NOT MENTION one single line
about GITA working with or under any ISKCON authorities. This is
National Council's concern. Please try to convince other members
of this GITA ngo to work under NRC leadership in your honest
and sincere desire to assist ISKCON.
your servant,
santi
Hare Krishna
PAMHO AGTHDGSP AGTSGAG
Attached here with is the fact sheet of the NGO GITA for all to know.
Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.
Your humble servant,
Madhusudan das.
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Subject: RE: Madhusudana dasa
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 07:58:57 +0000
Hare Krishna
Dear Simheswara Prabhu
PAMHO AGTHDGSP AGTSGAG
I am writing to your grace after quite a long time and feel sad it has to be in this
kind of a situation. Honestly speaking I do not remember of saying or doing anything
HARE KRISHNA. Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga.
First of all you learn how to write mails properly. You start assuming NONSENSE. You have previously
accused me of bribery. And you did not have the least of gentlemanly behaviour to apologise when you
were found wrong and could not produce any proof. Then you wrote a mail to me and Santi Vardhana
Caitanya prabhu when the original subject matter was ONLY written by Santi prabhu. I asked you to
apologise and you remained arrogant not willing to apologise. This resulted in you being removed from
NC e-mail forum. And now you ASSUME that the issue is a PERSONAL one between me and
Madhusudhana. YES! I am telling you to be CAREFUL in what you assume and accuse. So I am writing
to you that you are doing the same thing over and over again as if you cannot be corrected. I will not be
entertaining your mails any more if you continue to behave in this manner. And stop wasting my time.
Let Madhusudhana prabhu meet me or call me and I will discuss with him. This is a very important issue
which does not need your inputs. I would be very happy with higher authorities presence. Not you, who
cannot even accept wrongs and apologise for wrong doings. How can you again sit in such meeting when
you are removed from National council e-mail discussions and have yourself asked not to be in the
National Council. So you disqualify even though you may be his authority. You can always just bring up to
your authority who can then bring your issues to me. You are not to write to me directly on management
issues anymore until you qualify to be a National council member.
As for Gita distribution, we need to discuss this at the National council and see what is best. I have many
points to make about this and we will let the National Council decide.
And in future PLEASE address me with my full name.
In the meantime Madhusudhana prabhu is to not take part in the Gita distribution programme under the
NGO. I will be in the BCC on 18th and he can possibly meet me on 19th. I will then bring this up with HH
Bhakti Vrajendra Nandana Swami the President of ISKCON Malaysia.
Your servant,
Simheswara dasa
dedicated his life for Srila Prabhupada and his Guru's mission. Lets be crystal clear about the accusation when
dealing with someone at that level. We (HG Madhusudan and myself as his local authority) willing to come forward
to understand what are those pending issues that bothering your grace so much so that he has to stop his large
volume of Gita distribution immediately. We just wanted to know and close those issues quickly so that HG
Madhusudan pr can move on with his preaching activities. Are we asking something too much? It is already 3days
since HG Santi pr wrote the first email on this matter, until now we are in dark. Why so secretive about this issues?
I did asked few of NRC leaders (including HG Kishora pr since HG Madhusudan pr served under him previously)
about HG Madhusudan pr, they do not have any pending issues.
I beg your grace be fair to us and not wasting time communicating in emails, if by end of this Friday (20th Mar
2014), we did not get a complete picture about those pending issues, we will ignore all these emails and close the
case totally.
Sorry if I have anyway disrespect your grace. We simply reacted to the way your assistance was dealing with the
whole issue. But your grace cannot claim not responsible to your assistant action.
Dasa dasa anu dasa
Abhay Charan das
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 6:37 PM, simheswara <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Abhaya Carana prabhu,
HARE KRISHNA. Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga.
Getting PERSONAL again? This is a DANGEROUS PERSONAL ASSUMPTION.
Your servant,
Simheswara dasa
---- On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 09:58:50 +0800 Arumugam
Singaravelloo<[email protected]> wrote ---Hare Krsna,
If you say I have no concern then I assume it should be personal issues between HG Simhes pr and HG
Madhusudan pr. Then it got nothing to do with Iskcon and this NGO dist Gita. Many others are also in this
NGO. So, we do not have solid ground to stop Gita dist.
Das das anu das
On 13 Mar 2015 16:16, "santi vardhana" <[email protected]> wrote:
Re his pending issues, you have no concern.
And if Regional Secretary wants to get you involved,
he would contact you. Till then you can keep silent.
Hare Krishna
Dear Kavi Nimai Pr. and Premraj Pr
I have spoken about this matter with HG Premraj Pr.
I will discuss with both of you on this Sunday after class.
It is not clear if you want it to work with Gelugor as a department of Gelugor or as an NGO and under
Gelugor?
---- On Tue, 26 May 2015 21:15:14 +0800 santi vardhana<[email protected]> wrote ---I spoke to HG Madhusudana Prabhu this evening,
and I proposed that if Gelugor is willing to 'adopt'
the GITA ngo, then it may solve all issues.
Means, GITA works under the authority of Gelugor Branch.
Actually, Madhusudana mentioned it during the meeting
but when I asked Premraj he denied it. Maybe there was
some cloudly understanding. If GITA and Gelugor could
work it out, then it should be fine?
your servant,
santi
But now that this project is started I would not be against approving
specific for this project and future projects we expect to be done
through the way we are proposing.
---- On Tue, 26 May 2015 14:28:24 +0800 santi vardhana<[email protected]> wrote ---Dear HG Palaka Krishna Prabhu (NRC Chairman),
and HG Madhusudana Prabhu (GITA Chairman),
please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Modus operandi of some persons are "Ask and you will not get, just do it and then ask for forgiveness" and they get
their way through. We could think of a way to legalise it under ISKCON Malaysia and have some independence or a
department or something like that.
---- On Tue, 26 May 2015 11:09:22 +0800 santi vardhana wrote ---Dear HG Hemakanti Mataji,
please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Thank you for the sound legal advise.
Could you please kindly elaborate on the last paragraph.
How do we go about process of de-registering yet same
same time carry on school activities which is approved by
MoE under the GITA ngo?
your servant,
santi
From: Hemakanti JPS [email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" [email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:19 PM
Subject: Legal opinion on independent NGOs
Examples given of FFL, Hare Krsna Cooperative Society and the Private Companies we
have that own Iskcon land can't be used as examples as their objectives are different
than that of Iskcon Malaysia. Moreover FFL is an international arm of Iskcon and as
such Iskcon Malaysia HQ set up a separate entity and Iskcon branches can have FFL
branches too.
As there is an admission of mistake, it must be considered that the mistake can be
corrected. Projects for which State approvals have been obtained can be continued
whilst corrective actions can be put in place. Depending on timing issue, the society can
be de-registered and members can work under Iskcon to continue their endevours.
Hope the above assists.
Ys
Hemakanti Devi Dasi
your servant
kavinimai dasa
with regards
Kalimuthu Erulappan
Penolong Pegawai Perubatan U36
Unit Kesihatan Primer
Jab. Kesihatan Negeri P.Pinang
Tel: 016 482 5867
04 2017265
Hare Krishna
Dear Kavinimai prabhu and Premraj prabhu
PAMHO AGTHDGSP AGTSGAG
Below is the draft of the letter as you have requested.
Please kindly do the necessary edition.
It would be advisable to send this mail privately to Santi prabhu
and ask for his opinion before sending to NRC Chairman and the members
and cc to Santi prabhu and Simeshwara prabhu.
The Regional Secretary, HG Simheswara prabhu has given his approval for NGO GITA
to continue with its operation. And on the advice of National Secretary, HG Santi
prabhu, NGO GITA has to be adopted by any one of the existing ISKCON Centres in its
operational area.
We had a healthy meeting with NGO GITA recently and ISKCON Gelugor has accepted to adopt NGO
GITA officially. Thus we are informing NRC of settlement of this issue.
GITA has been made aware that there should be no duplication or clash of events and activities with other
ISKCON centres / Namahattas in its respective areas. GITA is to strictly adhere to the rules & regulations
of ISKCON and work hand and glove with ISKCON Gelugor.
ISKCON Gelugor will take full responsibility in case of any issues that may arise on GITAs conduct.
ISKCON Gelugor is however confident that GITA will operate ethically and be mindful in its management
as an NGO. ISKCON Gelugor is happy to extend its family and believe we can enhance our preaching
further with the help of GITA. Thus we hereby hope that NRC Chairman and all NRC members will be
cooperative and accept GITA as part of the ISKCON family.
Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.
Your humble servant,
Madhusudan das.
program shows a group of new dedicated devotees under the guidance of HG Madhusudhan, than with an
acknowledgement from NRC, a new Namahatta operating under Gelugor may be established.
4.As for now HG had not given an official letter to take authority under Gelugor, so as for now , we assume
he is still under your authority until official letter is given to both side.
thank you
your servants
kavinimai dasa
On Mon, 6/8/15, Arumugam Singaravelloo [email protected] [imnrc2]
<[email protected]> wrote:
Subject: [imnrc2] Devotee Care : HG Madhusudan pr.
To: "imnrc2" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, June 8, 2015, 7:51 PM