MuWatta Imam Malik
MuWatta Imam Malik
MuWatta Imam Malik
1. alShaibani heard the entire Muwatta from Malik whereas alLaythi apparently narrates
some portions through Shabtoon (one of his Andalusi teachers).
2. alShaibanis narration also contains transmission from other imams e.g. Abu Hanifa
etc
with regards to Yahyas narration and its authenticity then I believe the following grounds
speak for themselves;
1. Yahya did hear the entire Muwatta from Malik in the final year of Maliks life 179h,
however he had previously studied it in Andalusia before leaving for Madinah under
the instructions of Shabtoon (the first of Maliks students to bring the Muwatta to
Andalusia). Upon Yahyas return he felt some doubt regarding a few brief sections of
Iitikaf (Chapter from the Muwatta) whether he read that to Malik, therefore due to his
scrupulosity he felt it more deserving that he mentions those brief sections through
Shabtoon.
1. Yahya brings atleast 800 narrations more than alShaibani, and whether Shaibani
decides to include narrations from other imams is quite immaterial since the Muwatta
is concerned with the transmission of Malik.
:
Muhammad Abid alSindi: the transmission of alShaibani contains extra narrations (from
other imams) above the
popular transmission of the Muwatta, yet it omits many established sound hadith found in
all other variants of the
Muwatta.
It should be noted that the strength of transmission relies upon the narrators in its chain and
every chain is only as strong as its weakest link. On the contrary upon scrutiny of
alShaibanis credibility in hadith:
" :
Ibn Adi (by Maqrizi): Ahmad bin Hanbal said (alShaibani) is not reliable and his hadith should
not be written
Ibn Maeen has criticised alShaibani at various times with different comments:
is not reliable
weak
Ahmad bin Hanbal: I do not narrate anything from him
alZhahabi: Nassai and others considered him weak regarding his memory.
With the above said, I dont believe there remains any further scope for debate, I hope this
unscrupulous text which was written in much haste has proven beneficial to atleast some in
pursuit of knowledge at the very least I hope it has shed some clarity on the blurred vision
projected by an unfortunate few. With nothing further to say at this stage the Hadith of the
beloved Messenger (s.a.w.) comes to mind
"
the pens have been raised and the pages have dried.
Mufti Abu Layth alMaliki
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Ozzy Nujjoo JazakAllah Khayr. I just have one question which isn't really related to the main subject matter
but I wanted to ask. It concerns the statement: "The Muwatta of Imam Malik which is the earliest source of
valid Hadith compilation we have today"
I was u...See More
October 10, 2011 at 10:38pm Like
Ali Hseyin JazakAllah Shaykh ... amazing explanation ... i just had a question ... u wrote about ibn ma'eens
criticism .. is it the same Ibn Ma'een who said that Imam Malik RA was not a man of hadith but a man of
opinion ??
October 11, 2011 at 12:14am Like
Ali Hseyin And if i culd hav a scholarly opinion on a small article as well :
Imam Muhammad ibn al-Hasan al-Shaybani (132 - 189), who was one of the foremost students of Imam Abu
Hanifah, and an undisputed authority in fiqh (jurispudence) and lughah (language), ...See More
October 11, 2011 at 12:15am Like 1
Moosa Anjum I have heard some ulama say in regards to Jarh that ones criticism of a contemporary is not
accepted. That is, if it is without evidence, because being a contemporary often leads to personal animosity.
For example Imam Malik (Rahimullah) calling Muhammad ibn Ishaq (Rahimullah) a "Dajjal amongst dajjals".
October 11, 2011 at 12:40am Like
Abdassamad Clarke Samir Muric, since I am also the translator of the second half of Imam Muhammad's
narration of the Muwatta along with being the translator of Abdalhayy al-Laknawi's introduction to his
commentary on the same book, and since I alerted the publishers at ...See More
October 11, 2011 at 12:51am Unlike 4
Abdassamad Clarke Even the great Hanafi ulama do not consider the narration of Muhammad to be on a
par with that of Yahya. Shah Wali Allah chose the version of Yahya as did Mawlana Zakariyya for his
elaborate and very full commentary Awjaz al-Masalik. The ulama of Deoba...See More
October 11, 2011 at 12:56am Unlike 4
Abdassamad Clarke Samir Muric, are you a hadith scholar, knowledgeable in the sciences of hadith and its
usul, knowledgeable in the biographies of the narrators? Mufti Abu Layth is.
Have you studied this with legitimate scholars? Mufti Abu Layth did. ...See More
October 11, 2011 at 1:18am Unlike 3
Abdassamad Clarke Samir Muric, if you are a talib of 'ilm, leave the ulama to their business and get on with
your studies, and indeed leave them to their controversies. You are intruding in matters that do not concern
you. "The best of a man's Islam is his leaving what does not concern him."
October 11, 2011 at 1:29am Like 3
Mufti Abu Layth Br Samir i have written a response, if u'l care to read it plz, i do feel you've misunderstood
me
October 11, 2011 at 3:47am Like
Ali Hseyin SubhanAllah ! Well Handled .. Shaykh ... if we could hav a show on adaab al ikhtilaaf .... i think
this is very much needed by our young generation ...
October 11, 2011 at 6:58am Like 1
Zahid Al-Hanaf Good scholarly post from both Mufti Abu Layth and Sidi Abdassamad Clarke - May Allah
bless you all.
November 17 at 11:25pm Like 1
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