Soul of Discipline
Soul of Discipline
Soul of Discipline
Last September, Counselor Kim John Payne visited our school and spoke with faculty
and parents about discipline in the lives of children. A former Waldorf teacher, Mr.
Payne currently teaches at Lesley University in Cambridge and is the director of the
with emotional disorders, children who bully and those who are targeted, and the
teachers who work with them every day. He also consults with parents of children like
our own. He is currently completing a new book entitled, The Soul of Discipline, soon to
be published.
Early in a career spent working with troubled children, child and family counselor
Kim Payne had a revelation. He recently had completed an assignment on the border
between Thailand and Cambodia, where he was treating children suffering from post-
traumatic stress disorder after the war. They had all the classic symptoms. They were
of anger. They startled at anything new. They preferred to engage in the same activities
over and over, following rigidly proscribed patterns. They could not play.
Mr. Payne next worked as a child and family counselor in London. There he was
amazed to find that the treatment plans he devised for these British children were the
extreme signs of stress, though it had been many years since Britain had seen a war on its
own soil.
response” to what he sees as “an undeclared war on childhood.” In many of the world’s
most advanced societies, he believes, children are victims of sensory overload that is
now—regrettably—considered normal.
Young children today, he said, suffer from sleep deprivation (which he defined as
less than 11 hours a day), too much light in their rooms at night, too many “big-hit” foods
(those that are highly sweetened or flavored), too many car trips, too many books, too
many toys and videos, and too much noise. Even the echo created in cavernous modern
homes with high ceilings and bare floors can have for some children a deleterious effect.
loop,” creating discipline problems and making it difficult for them to respond properly
in structured situations. If your child is overstressed, a simple request to get in the car
The very qualities we admire in our children tend to warp under stress. A reliable
child, for instance, may become obsessive; a busy boy, hyperactive; a dreamy girl,
girl, hostile. This phenomenon also can be seen in overburdened parents who, instead of
remaining calm, overreact and thus become adrenaline suppliers for their children.
Stressful situations engage the most primitive part of the human brain, the
amygdala, the part responsible for the flight-or-fight response critical to survival in
responses. When overstressed, both children and adults demonstrate a reduced capacity
for empathy, a tendency to tease or to anger, a feeling of paranoia, and perhaps a sense
that the future will only bring more of the same. Stressed people tend to regress to the
most impoverished and unresolved part of their biographies. “When my wife tells me
Some stress is created by our physical environment. A home that is cluttered and
full of intense auditory and visual distractions, for example, overwhelms the sensitive
regimen of music lessons, play dates, sports practices, religious activity, school events,
Payne suggests balancing “big hit” activities, such as a trip to a Red Sox game,
with calming experiences, such as two quiet days at home. Children who have a balance
between calming and arousing activities, he said, are more likely to be emotionally
resilient. Calm children can enjoy novelty, are socially engaged with others, have a good
sense of humor, and can return to a state of rest between stressful events. They also have
a greater capacity for reverence and for empathy, and are able to remain positive in the
maintaining more predictable daily rhythms, we can alter the chemistry of our children’s
brains. Payne said he has successfully treated hundreds of children diagnosed with
been known to help remove large black bags of toys, books and clutter.
Disciplinary methods have changed dramatically in the past 50 years, said Mr.
Payne, and not always for the better. Our parents may have been raised under one
disciplinary style and raised us under a completely different style, while we may be
bringing up our own children under an eclectic amalgamation of several styles. In fact,
the current array of disciplinary methods can produce parental paralysis in the face of
rude behavior.
Obedience-focused discipline was the main method used through the early 1960s.
This militaristic system demanded unstinting respect for authority and utilized
immediate compliance was demanded through fear induction. Any disagreement was
seen as talking back. At its best this system created immediate compliance; at its worst it
The permissive parenting movement of the early 1970s was a backlash against
what had come before. Now children's anger and defiance was applauded as healthy self-
expression, limits were seen as “uncool,” and saying “no” was considered damaging to a
child’s self-esteem. Parents unconditionally gave way to children, expecting little in the
way of chores or family obligations. Children were the center of the universe and equal
to adults in terms of respect. This created a strong sense of self-awareness among this
generation of children, but also a sense of entitlement and a need for instant gratification
In the 1980s, scientific behavior management concepts became integrated into our
parenting culture. This model focused on using rewards to reinforce desired behaviors.
The slightly different behavior modification movement used the same concept but instead
movements advocated the use of charts to show links between behaviors and
“If we bargain for compliance now, we may beg for it later,” Mr. Payne quoted
from The Twelve Keys to Discipline by Roanld Morish.. Children raised under either of
these systems tend to be expert negotiators, he said. They do cost/benefit analysis on the
risk/reward ratios of their actions. Unfortunately, this system sets up parents as jailers
and makes interactions with children more Pavlovian than human. Children may buck
the system with outrageous behaviors or wear down their parents through relentless
In the 1990s, the self-esteem movement floated east from California. During this
decade, the slightest effort by a child became cause for a parental exclamation of “Good
job!” The result of such constant liberal praise was to produce a generation of “praise
cheerleading adult. In a study conducted at the University of Toronto, kids who received
lots of praise viewed generosity as a means to an end, were less kind to others, and
approval is overused, kids learn to look smart without really learning anything and may
trade their sense of play or their willingness to take risks in exchange for adult approval.
He recommends replacing overly generous praise with quiet observation and simple
narrative, commenting on a child’s activities: “You’ve been drawing that truck for long
time. Look at its high wheels.” This type of comment lets a child know that he is
This technique is also effective in helping children make transitions. Rather than
rushing children into the car or to the table, he suggests first joining them in their world,
then bringing them into your world, then establishing a world together. Whipping a
child’s drawing off the table in mid-creation so the table can be set for dinner will only
produce a furious child. But if a parent kindly notices something interesting about the
picture (“That’s a really neat diamond on the King’s crown”), then tells the child what is
cooking on the stove (“Look at this big kale from the farm”), then brings the child into
this activity (“Lets see how this kale shrinks when we boil it”), the whole experience
becomes one of inclusion and working together rather them rushing and pushing.
According to Mr. Payne, it is important to tailor your methods to the three stages
children to accept rules and adult direction. At this stage, the adult is the king/queen.
“We’re going for compliance,” Mr. Payne said. “The key word is limitation.” Quoting
again from Morish’s book he said the motto for these years is: Start small. Stay close.
At this age, it is important for adults to model behavior they wish children to
imitate. It is also important to give kids chances to “do over” harsh behaviors. This is
more effective than using rewards or punishments. Early childhood is also the time to
teach good manners—graciously saying thank you to the family cook and driver after
Between the ages of seven and fourteen (when the feeling life predominates),
adults in a child’s life take on a shepherding role. “The key word now is consultation,”
Mr. Payne noted. Now is the time to teach emotional and social skills, using “do-overs”
as a chance to try again. If a child refuses to do something over, Mr. Payne recommends
using a minor punishment that ends when the “do-over” is complete. He feels correction
is more effective than punishment and reminders are more useful than threats. He says
this is the time to teach empathy by making children aware of the subtle put-downs
inherent in certain tones of voice or body language. Parents should also consult with
children in advance of challenging situations to help them learn to make good choices
During the teen years (when children begin to think independently), parents can
empathy for others and already have learned how to make choices, they handle
adolescence more easily. Mr. Payne recommends the use of consequences during the
teen years, but he prefers incentives to bribes. His motto for disciplining teens is: Delay
gratification. Anticipate hot spots. Affirm good choices. As a parent you might say:
“When you finish your research paper, you can use the Internet.”
He spoke of the culture of disrespect and the importance of helping youth differentiate
between critical thinking and criticism. Adolescence, being the time of managing choices,
it becomes important that these choices are based on an inner sense of what is right rather
When age-appropriate discipline isn’t working, Payne suggests returning to methods that
worked at earlier stages. Is a teen not managing choices well? Then, go back to
For example, if your teen hasn't cleaned her room for weeks, talk about room
organization and make an agreement as to when she will clean the room (collaborate). If
the room is still a mess after the agreed upon time, give her a reminder and a chance to
“do it over” (consult and build skill). If she still doesn't respond, start small, stay close,
insist and follow through. Sit in the room with her, if necessary, while she puts things
away, pencil by pencil (compliance). Ultimately, it takes a parent really being there to
guide a child.