Tolerance Without

Sacricing Conviction
A lecture presented by
David Padeld
at
Messiah 2000: An Interfaith Symposium
Carthage College Kenosha, Wisconsin August 12, 2000
Tolerance Without Sacrificing Conviction
Introduction
I. Let me begin expressing my profound gratitude for your gracious invitation to
be with you today and to have this opportunity to help break down barriers.
II. We all know the story of Abraham, the one whom God called out of the Ur of the
Chaldees and revealed to him the truth of monotheism.
A. The depth of his faith was tested when God asked him to offer up his son.
B. We can all picture Abraham as he was tested and his faith sustained him.
C. His sons life was spared and ransomed by a ram.
D. As a result of his faith every Muslim, every Christian and every Jew in the
world looks back to the great faith of the Prophet Abraham.
E. As you travel in the Middle East, you can hear Arab guides refer to Abraham
as Khalil Allah, the friend of God.
F. May I say in the very beginning of this lecture that if you are a friend of
Abraham then you are my friend as well.
III. We are going to discuss Tolerance Without Sacrificing Conviction.
A. In American society the word tolerance is often abused and confused.
1. The word tolerance is defined as, The capacity for or the practice of
recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
2. However, tolerance is often confused with acceptance, a word which
is synonymous with approval.
B. Homosexuals in American society often plead for tolerance.
1. If they mean that they want people to treat them with civility and the
common courtesy due all members of the human race, then I will gladly
grant them their request.
2. However, what they really want is acceptancethey want people of
faith to give up their convictions and accept the homosexual agenda.
C. We have organizations like Planned Parenthood who claim they want
tolerance from those of us who believe in the sanctity of human life.
1. If they are simply asking that no one tries to bomb their clinics or throw
blood on the employees, then I am willing to be tolerantin fact, I would
demand it from all who consider themselves to be the children of God.
2. However, if they mean that I must close my eyes to the fact that a million
unborn babies a year in America are ripped from their mothers womb
and flushed down the sink or thrown into dumpstersthen I can not give
them the tolerance they desire.
3. I will be kind and courteous to them, but I can not accept the murder of
unborn children.
IV. Deciding what we should tolerate and what we should abstain from and even
oppose has never been an easy task.
A. I want to be kind and friendly to every one, whether they be Muslim,
Christian, Jew or even an atheist.
B. But there are certain things that I can not do or approve of without giving up
the very principles by which I live.
C. So, how do I decide what to tolerate and what to oppose?
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Discussion
I. Matters Of Conscience In The Bible
A. The prophet Daniel in king Nebuchadnezzars court.
1. The Old Testament tells us of a Hebrew prophet named Daniel, who was
captured by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, and carried into captivity.
a) Daniel and his friends were from the tribe of Judah, the royal tribe
among the Jews.
b) Then the king instructed Ashpenaz, the master of his eunuchs, to
bring some of the children of Israel and some of the kings
descendants and some of the nobles, young men in whom there was
no blemish, but good-looking, gifted in all wisdom, possessing
knowledge and quick to understand, who had ability to serve in the
kings palace, and whom they might teach the language and
literature of the Chaldeans. And the king appointed for them a daily
provision of the kings delicacies and of the wine which he drank,
and three years of training for them, so that at the end of that time
they might serve before the king. (Dan. 1:35).
c) Now from among those of the sons of Judah were Daniel, Hananiah,
Mishael, and Azariah. To them the chief of the eunuchs gave names:
he gave Daniel the name Belteshazzar; to Hananiah, Shadrach; to
Mishael, Meshach; and to Azariah, Abed-Nego. (Dan. 1:67).
d) But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself
with the portion of the kings delicacies, nor with the wine which he
drank; therefore he requested of the chief of the eunuchs that he
might not defile himself. (Dan. 1:8).
2. God had spoken concerning idolatry and the eating of unclean foods, but
He had not spoken about the names people might call you.
a) Therefore, accepting a new name was not a violation of conscience for
there was no breach of the Law with Daniel.
b) Even in being tutored in the language and learning of the Chaldeans
he saw no violation of the Law of God.
c) But, his convictions would cause him to firmly and politely refuse to
partake of that which would involve him in recognizing any other
deity than Jehovah.
d) You can not control what people call you, but you can control how
you act and react to them.
e) People in America often refer to the people of Islam as
Mohammedans, a name which I know you do not desire, but
sometimes people do this out of ignorance and other times out of
animosity.
f) But what people call you does not force you to violate your
conscience or standard of morality.
g) Among those who claim to be Christians you will find a lot of men
who love to have religious titles, their favorite being the word
Reverend, a word which means deserving reverence.
h) I have never liked these titles, for the only One whom I regard as
deserving reverence is God Himself.
i) Yet, I often pick up a newspaper and find that someone has put the
tilte reverend in front of my name.
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3. How did Daniel stand up for his convictions?
a) His manner was polite, calm and firm.
b) Many people would yield to the surrounding influences and become
so relaxed in their new position that they would be as pliable as wax.
c) Daniel requested that the prince of the eunuchs not force him to
violate his convictions.
d) Daniel did not want to pose as a martyr, nor did he take any pleasure
in making noise.
e) Some people think that heroism is shown by rudenessbut such was
not the attitude of Daniel.
f) As we read the rest of the account, God brought Daniel into tender
favor with the chief of the eunuchs.
B. Christians in the First Century.
1. Peter and John, two ambassadors of Jesus Christ, were arrested and put
on trial before a Jewish court known as the Sanhedrin.
a) As they were questioned by the priests, the captain of the temple and
Annas the High Priest, the Bible records that these men were amazed
when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that
they were uneducated and untrained men, they marveled. And they
realized that they had been with Jesus (Acts 4:13).
b) For the moment Peter and John were released by their captors, but
they were threatened not to speak any more about Jesus Christ.
c) The apostles immediately went back to their preaching and were
arrested again and put in prison, where an angel of God released
them and said, Go, stand in the temple and speak to the people all
the words of this life (Acts 5:20).
d) Early the next morning Peter and John were again found preaching
and were again arrested and brought before the Jewish court.
e) The High Priest reminded them that they had been strictly
commanded not to teach or preach the words of Jesus anymore.
f) Peter said, We ought to obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29).
g) Peter was respectful and courteous, but his convictions could not be
silenced by the threat of violence.
h) The Jewish council wanted to kill Peter and John, but on the advice of
a Pharisee named Gamaliel the apostles were beaten and released.
i) So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they
were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name (Acts 5:41).
2. Peter and John did not respond with violence, for Christianity is neither
promoted nor defended by the edge of a sword!
a) We have all read of the many atrocities that were committed during
what is commonly referred to as The Crusades.
b) I can not speak for anyone else, but let me plainly say that I firmly
believe that any man who picked up a sword in defense of
Christianity ceased being a Christian.
c) I believe Jesus Christ is the Prince of Peace, and His cause is not to be
advanced by the threat of bloodshed.
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3. The apostle Paul wrote to Christians in Rome and reminded them that
they were to be obedient to the civil government (Romans 13:17).
a) These Christians were living the midst of a polytheistic society where
the majority of the people were deprived of basic human rights.
b) But Christians were to be obedient to the government until that
government required of them things which God had prohibited.
c) They were even required to pay their taxes to their government and
even to pray for it.
d) Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers,
intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and
all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life
in all godliness and reverence (1 Tim. 2:12).
e) In the process of time many of these early Christians were put to
death by that same governmentNero dipped Christians in oil and
set them afire in his garden as torches at night.
f) These early Christians were not told to participate in protest marches
against the government, nor set up picket lines in front of
government office buildings.
g) They were to humbly and meekly go about their taskbut they were
never to give in to violence, nor were they allowed to sacrifice their
convictions in the process.
II. John Alexander Dowie
A. I want to make it very plain that I am not here to bash John Dowie, nor to
pass eternal judgment upon a man I have never met.
1. At the same time, I am not here to apologize for Dr. Dowie either.
2. I believe the sins a person commits can only be forgiven by God, and that
during their lifetime.
B. John Alexander Dowie was born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1847.
1. In 1860 Dowie immigrated to Australia with his uncle to sell shoes.
2. In 1872 he became a Congregationalist minister in Australia, and in 1878
he became an independent evangelist.
3. He tried without success to become a member of the Australian
parliament, opened a church in Melbourne, fought a bitter struggle
against the liquor companies, and was imprisoned for holding open air
meetings without permission.
4. All this only brought more publicity for his work, something for which he
hungered throughout his life.
5. He received an invitation to an international conference on divine
healing, which was taking place in 1885 under the leadership of a
Methodist preacher in London.
6. Dowie did not attend, but he sent a letter and proclaimed to the world
that within three years he would set out on a world-wide mission.
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C. In 1888 he left Australia, went through New Zealand, crossed the Pacific and
passed through the Golden Gate at San Francisco, and finally arrived in
Illinois in 1890.
1. In 1893 he built a small tabernacle near the Worlds Fair grounds in
Chicago (across from the camp of Buffalo Bill).
2. In 1896 Dowie proclaimed: The Church must have a business
fellowship, a fellowship in getting money, in saving money, and in
spending money for Christ. He had a vision of building an industrial city
without any institutional links with sin, disease and poverty. In Zion, Ill.,
there should be neither liquor stores, theatres, pork abattoirs, doctors nor
hospitals; the latter were in any case unnecessary in the holy city. Instead
a vast temple for 25,000 people was built, together with an industrial
area, particularly for lace making on a co-operative basis. (Walter J.
Hollenweger, The Pentecostals, p. 117).
3. Dowie set about the task of buying up 6,600 acres of farmland for what
would later be known as the City of Zion, Illinois.
4. On January 1, 1900, Dowie held an all-night meeting in Chicago and
unfurled a huge map showing the site that had been purchased.
D. From 1901 on Dowie seems to have taken on delusions of grandeur.
1. He first of all tried to reintroduce into his church, the Christian Catholic
Church, the rank of apostle.
2. From 1902 he asserted that churches which did not join his Zion were
without further hope.
3. In 1903 he organized large meetings in Madison Square Garden.
a) The eight to ten special trains required to transport 3,000 people from
Zion cost $250,000.
b) He appeared dressed all in black, with a bodyguard of 1,000 men and
a choir of hundreds of girls, all dressed in white.
c) But this demonstration in New York was a mistake from the point of
view both of finance and propaganda.
d) The New York World had published unpleasant letters from Dowie to
his father, in which Dowie questioned his relationship with his father
and this led Dowie to misuse the meeting in New York to defend his
own position.
E. His self-adulation now knew no limits.
1. Nearly every objective historian you can find will say that Dowies own
ego was the major part of his fall.
2. He is reported to have said, John the Baptist was I say in all humility
like me, not proud.
3. Dowie demonstrated that acceptance of a charismatic leaders claim to
healing power is usually based on the ability of the would-be leader to
convince the religious rank and file that he has been specifically and
divinely selected to act as Gods agent on earth. Dowies remarkable
career showed that the most important literature a faith healer can place
in the hands of a potential follower is not a Gospel tract, but an account of
his own life, filled with stories of his conversion, visions, miracles and
messages from Heaven. (James Morris, The Preachers, p. 66).
4. Dowie wildly exaggerated his healings, and stated in one of his witness
meetings more healings were reported than in the whole Bible!
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5. In 1901 he started referring to himself as Elijah the Restorer.
6. On September 18, 1904, Dowie appeared on the platform of Shiloh
Tabernacle dressed in an ornate robe of white combined with gold,
scarlet, and purple to make a garment that might have rivaled that of an
oriental potentate, or the Pope.
7. His new garment required the work of forty women for several months.
8. His liturgical headdress was of white, gold, and purple and was
embroidered with scarlet oriental lilies of the valley and with
pomegranates.
9. On the platform, to one side of his chair, was a small altar, a replica of the
altar of incense of the ancient Hebrew temple, and on the other side was a
polished brass lectern surmounted by a brass eagle.
10. It was in this beautiful robe that he was buried in 1907
11. Dowie took on a new name: John Alexander, First Apostle of the Lord
Jesus, the Christ, in the Christian Catholic Apostolic Church in Zion.
F. Out of all the things Dowie is most noted for, I suspect that it was his
intolerance which has angered the most people.
1. On June 2, 1901, before an audience of 7000 people at the Christian
Catholic Church, Dowie said: I have the right to stand here and say in
Zion you have to do what I tell you! Oh! The whole church
Presbyterian, Congregational, Baptist, Episcopal. It is the most daring
thing I ever said. The time has come; I tell you the church universal
everywhere, you have to do what I tell you. Do you hear? You have to do
what I tell you, because I am the messenger of Gods covenant.
2. As most of you know, he wanted to wipe out the people of Islam and
he grossly misrepresented the religion of Islam in general.
3. I know that many of you have very strong emotions regarding Dowies
statements, for without question his words would have to be regarded as
blasphemy by any devout Muslim.
4. However, I would like to remind you of a few things:
a) The people of Islam were not the only ones attacked by Dowie he
was just as unkind to Baptists, Methodists, and Catholics alike.
b) The truth of the matter is that Dowie would not have welcomed me
into his town any more than he would have welcomed you!
c) No one who knew Dowie is alive today, and the people at what is
now known as Christ Community Church wish you no harm.
d) I have many friends in Zion who attend that church, and I have not
met an intolerant one among them.
III. Questions Of Tolerance Today
A. How far does tolerance extend?
1. Reasonable people can disagree without violence.
2. The meanest people I have ever met are religious people.
3. More lives have been lost in the name of God than for any other cause in
the history of the world.
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B. Over the past 20 years I have held several public religious debates.
1. The debates have been with people who considered themselves to be
Christians, but with whom I had disagreements on matters of faith.
2. The debates were usually held over a period of four nights, with each
speaker being given three speeches of 20 minutes each per evening.
3. If you watched the debates from afar you might wrongly assume that my
opponent and I were mad at each otherbut you would be wrong.
4. When our voices are loud, it is not because we are mad or because we are
ready to commit acts of violence upon each other.
5. We are forceful in our presentations because we believe that matters of
faith ultimately will determine how the Eternal One of heaven deals with
us in the Final Day of Judgment.
6. I have never questioned the honesty or integrity of my opponents, and I
have never used unkind words to describe them personally or to belittle
their doctrine.
C. I have always believed that truth has nothing to fear from investigation.
1. If you are my friend, if you are truly concerned about my soul, give me
the truth.
2. Do not fear that the truth will offend me.
3. Do not treasure our friendship above my soul.
4. Do not think that by hiding my sins you can help me.
5. However I might react to it, whatever my attitude may be toward you
after you have done it, give me the truth.
6. For only the truth can make men free from the shackles of sin and lead
them into the joys of an eternal reward.
D. What would happen if a Muslim moved next door to me in Zion?
1. I would greet you warmly, and offer to help you move in.
a) In the afternoon, my wife would probably bring some food over to
your house and she also would welcome you into our neighborhood.
b) After you were settled in to your new home we would probably see
each other from time to time working in the yard or shoveling snow.
c) I am sure than sometime along the way we would have a
conversation in the yard about the weather, or politics, etc.
d) In all likelihood, our conversation would probably turn to religious
mattersfor in eternity, that is all that really matters.
2. We could spend a lot of time talking about areas of agreement.
a) We both believe in the sanctity of human life and abhor the slaughter
of the unborn.
b) We both believe in the importance and sanctity of the home, and of
propriety in all human relationships.
c) We both believe that we are obligated by our Creator to pray and to
remember the poor with our personal finances.
d) We both believe in racial equality and desire that we judge each other
by the content of character, not the color of our skin.
e) We both believe that God grants to an individual freedom of choice,
and through His word leads men to a way of holiness and happiness.
f) We both understand that our souls are not destroyed by death.
g) We both believe in an Eternal God who will dispense justice in
accordance with His laws.
h) Our belief in life after death and in a day of judgment helps us to
heed Gods laws and avoid His prohibitions, fearing His wrath.
i) We could spend hours talking about matters we agree upon.
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3. However, if we are truly friends, we would want to share our religious
convictions, and inevitably we would have to talk about our differences.
a) We both operate under a set of religious convictions which demands
that we teach other people about our God.
b) We would do it kindly and courteously, and with civility.
c) We would not hurl unkind names toward each other.
d) We would not question the honesty or integrity of the other.
e) We would not ask each other to give up our convictions merely for
the sake of getting along.
4. What would we talk about?
a) We would have to discuss the nature of Gods revelation to man is
the Bible Gods final revelation to man or is the Koran?
b) We both believe in the virgin birth of Christ, but how did He die?
Was He really crucified for the sins of mankind?
c) Did the Old Testament foretell the coming of the prophet Mohamed?
d) Does the gospel of John refer to the coming of the Holy Spirit to the
apostles or to the coming of the prophet Mohamed?
e) These questions could be discussed in a public forum and would
show to the world the Christians and Muslims can discuss their
differences, maintain their convictions, exhibit tolerance and be
friendly all at the same time!
Conclusion
I. Let us not judge each other by extremists.
A. All too often people try to judge an entire race or group in society by a few
misfits who like to see their names in the newspaper.
B. I do not seek to be represented by any other group of peopleI would like
you to examine what I teach in the light of Scripture.
II. People of goodwill will truly have Love for all and hatred toward none, for
love for our Creator must be shown by love for His creation!
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