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Just did not remember the name of the series. Was looking for the show on which Beau Bridges discussed e.g the education of the children etc. with his wife. A very unusual series. So different from the mainstream. A couple really trying to solve their problems. Obviously not a series for a wide audience. Never understood why Beau Bridges was more or less forgotten. The relationship seemed so equal. A kind of marriage to be envied. For me the quality of this series almost equaled "The wonder years". A real television Icon. Both series made you think about life. I really was surprised finding out that there were only 6 episodes of United States, seemed like so much more. Unfortunately, I think that a series like this, today would not be appreciated enough by the advertisers.
For anyone who enjoyed the honest dialogue of the show, "thirtysomething", "United States" would definitely have been a show to see. The conversations between a man and his wife (we find out that she has been married before) are a stream-of-consciousness discussion, weaving in, out, and around the original topic.
In one episode, the husband finds out that a friend has been having an affair. The topic of marital fidelity is discussed, and the wife reveals that she had cheated on her first husband. Her state of mind at the time of the affair and her new husband's altered opinion of her are addressed, very compellingly.
Rather than simply have talking heads, the camera rarely points at the characters' faces. In this episode, for example, the couple is changing clothes to attend a function at which the unfaithful friend will be present.
The camera is directed at the busy hands and fluttering clothing of each speaker in turn, until they finally leave the bedroom.
If this series is now or is ever available for purchase, I am eager to own it.
In one episode, the husband finds out that a friend has been having an affair. The topic of marital fidelity is discussed, and the wife reveals that she had cheated on her first husband. Her state of mind at the time of the affair and her new husband's altered opinion of her are addressed, very compellingly.
Rather than simply have talking heads, the camera rarely points at the characters' faces. In this episode, for example, the couple is changing clothes to attend a function at which the unfaithful friend will be present.
The camera is directed at the busy hands and fluttering clothing of each speaker in turn, until they finally leave the bedroom.
If this series is now or is ever available for purchase, I am eager to own it.
- keifer1301
- Jul 1, 2004
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A witty couple, obviously nuts about each other, who relate to each other the way people relate to each other in real life, albeit, a bit smarter.
One wonders how it might have worked if they'd layered in canned laughter. In 1980, people weren't ready to decide what is funny on their own, perhaps. As if sit-coms have advanced all that much since them.
There was genuine chemistry between Bridges and Shaver, but one wonders if it's the actors' contribution or the sheer honesty of the writing.
I saw all "United States" episodes at the Museum of Radio & Television in Beverly Hills. (There are a couple of episodes that were never run before it was canceled.) It's not consistently brilliant, but there are plenty of moments that (had it been given a chance) might have changed the way half-hour episodic television works.
A quarter of a century later, "United States" still seems ahead of its time. It's almost voyeuristic in its honest portrayal of people who deal with situations that, as in all of our lives, combine humor, pathos, irony, love, naiveté (even the kids aren't all *that* obnoxious), and honesty.
Alas, it appeared on television the same year America preferred to elect Ronald Reagan. I don't think America was in the mood for honesty just then. I'm not sure we're ready for it yet.
Instead, people tune in to "reality" shows, which are fake as hell.
One wonders how it might have worked if they'd layered in canned laughter. In 1980, people weren't ready to decide what is funny on their own, perhaps. As if sit-coms have advanced all that much since them.
There was genuine chemistry between Bridges and Shaver, but one wonders if it's the actors' contribution or the sheer honesty of the writing.
I saw all "United States" episodes at the Museum of Radio & Television in Beverly Hills. (There are a couple of episodes that were never run before it was canceled.) It's not consistently brilliant, but there are plenty of moments that (had it been given a chance) might have changed the way half-hour episodic television works.
A quarter of a century later, "United States" still seems ahead of its time. It's almost voyeuristic in its honest portrayal of people who deal with situations that, as in all of our lives, combine humor, pathos, irony, love, naiveté (even the kids aren't all *that* obnoxious), and honesty.
Alas, it appeared on television the same year America preferred to elect Ronald Reagan. I don't think America was in the mood for honesty just then. I'm not sure we're ready for it yet.
Instead, people tune in to "reality" shows, which are fake as hell.
- jeremy_shops
- Jun 24, 2006
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I watched this show with great interest and quickly got hooked by this family who was actually intelligent and did not find quick and easy solutions to their problems. They were educated, upper class, and had respect for each other. Fine writing, beautiful sets and creative humor was the highlight. Of course it would not hold up on commercial television, it was far too interesting and well written, but I do hope the studio will release all 6 episodes on DVD. This series would surely find an audience with today's more sophisticated viewers. How times have changed and today we openly talk about the subjects this show brought up. It's time has come!
- inoldhollywood
- Jul 5, 2005
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I remember seeing all 6 episodes of this on TV in 1980. I only tuned in because the critics were raving about it. At first it was off-putting--it was a sitcom without a laugh track. But (slowly) it drew me in. The acting of Beau Bridges and Helen Shaver was excellent and they had great chemistry together. Also the show dealt with real issues (love, sex, marriage) in an adult upfront manner. No talking down to the audience. Of course this bombed completely-- it was simply too good for TV. It was pushed by the network nonstop and critics praised it up and down--but it wasn't enough. It MIGHT work today but I think the absence of a laugh track still might bother viewers. Well ahead of its time. Recommended.
One of the best of a generation! Larry Gelbart wrote the episodes (MASH fame). What killed it was Jimmy Carter!
It was an smart/excellent show that was not doing well in the ratings (just like MASH), however, it was being promoted by NBC, was on the cover of TV Guide its final week - so what happened? Jimmy Carter did a TV National speech on the IRAN hostage situation, and it was at 6:00 p.m. PST/9:00 EST - the SAME TIME that it was scheduled to be broadcasted EST - But - It wasn't broadcast due to the Presidents speech. And - because the Presidents speech interrupted the East Coast time, NBC decided NOT to broadcast the West coast episode. And - 2 days later the shop was cancelled. And the viewing public was left with Threes Company and such ...
It was an smart/excellent show that was not doing well in the ratings (just like MASH), however, it was being promoted by NBC, was on the cover of TV Guide its final week - so what happened? Jimmy Carter did a TV National speech on the IRAN hostage situation, and it was at 6:00 p.m. PST/9:00 EST - the SAME TIME that it was scheduled to be broadcasted EST - But - It wasn't broadcast due to the Presidents speech. And - because the Presidents speech interrupted the East Coast time, NBC decided NOT to broadcast the West coast episode. And - 2 days later the shop was cancelled. And the viewing public was left with Threes Company and such ...
- pgatour-704-889128
- Nov 25, 2021
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Comparisons to that other whine-fest "Thirty-Something" are apt. This show was 90 percent talk with virtually no action! The topics were mundane, to say the least, the effect quite snooze-worthy.
It might do better today when broadcast TV is an entirely female medium with prime-time soaps dominating the schedule. This transformation was incomplete in 1980 so naturally a good portion of the audience said "Huh?' when the show premiered and never again tuned in.
After this experience Beau Bridges, a very talented actor, stayed away from TV. The idiosyncratic Helen Shaver has since found her true métier: as a director.
It might do better today when broadcast TV is an entirely female medium with prime-time soaps dominating the schedule. This transformation was incomplete in 1980 so naturally a good portion of the audience said "Huh?' when the show premiered and never again tuned in.
After this experience Beau Bridges, a very talented actor, stayed away from TV. The idiosyncratic Helen Shaver has since found her true métier: as a director.
When I was in my early twenties I saw this show in the Netherlands (I am Dutch and still live in the Netherlands). It was totally different from other sitcoms. It was even so different that I found out just now through IMDb that it actually was a sitcom. I will never forget the husband (played by Beau) telling about having a "rear view mirror affair". When I see either Helen Shaver or Beau Bridges in a movie or on TV I always remember their role in that show and hope that it comes back. After a couple of items suddenly the show was gone and I missed it. It really influenced my outlook on life and relationships. Still I could understand, because sustaining such a high level of dealing with true issues in life, in a very funny and amusing way is extremely difficult. Now I am in my forties and can understand that probably there was a lack of interest in going on with the show. Thanks for sharing the information on IMDb! I surely hope that this comes out on DVD. When someone knows, please let me know.
- rob-broekhof
- Feb 19, 2005
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This was a short lived gem. Man and wife, adult, discussing adult issues with sensitivity and humor, and without the comic "all ends happily after" at the end of each 30 minutes. Entertaining, and made you smile without demeaning. If it ever comes back (unlikely) worth a view.
- woodyweaver
- Dec 28, 2002
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What a priceless gem this show was! It lasted just six weeks, but it had a timeless freshness, a bright optimism that Americans really did want more than the standard, predictable sitcom fare. I would love to get the episodes on DVD or video. Every time really good TV comes along, it just doesn't seem to have a chance to last. Such was the case with "United States." The husband and wife actually talked WITH each other instead of yelling or purring one-liners at each other. The children were actually listened to by their parents. I so appreciated that everything didn't turn out neatly in 22 minutes plus commercials. The statements that were funny were indeed funny rather than fodder for knee-jerk reactions to canned or prompted studio laughter.