Power, Reverence, and Sexuality
- Facing desire in pastoral care
NACS, Oslo 2011
Lisa Rudolfsson & Inga Tidefors
Dept. of Psychology, University of Gothenburg
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Background
Part of a project concerning pastoral care and victims of sexual
abuse, funded by the Swedish Research Council.
Ongoing study: preliminary analysis
Facing desire when caring for confidants: Clerics discussed
feelings provoked when perceiving that a confidant was
attracted to them, and strategies to cope with such feelings
Psychological concepts of transference and
Counter transference
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Background, Cont.
Pastoral Care
Interpersonal setting
Cleric meet confidants in a situation of personal need
(spiritual, physical, emotional, social)
Emotional processes
Cleric and confidant may both contribute to interpersonal
processes that may hurt the other and may determinate
success or failure of pastoral care
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Background, cont.
Transference
Process in analysis or therapy (pastoral care)
Patients (confidants) place certain feelings onto the therapist
(cleric)
Freud: Patients often seemed to fall in love with him
(first seen as an obstruction)
In therapy the therapist can interpret the patients’ transference,
to help restore more “normal” feelings by responding in
ways unlike that of the person upon which the original
feelings were based
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Counter Transference
Unconscious response, always is aroused within the therapist
Result of the patients' impact on the unconscious feelings of
the therapist him/herself
Contains the therapists' reaction to
- the patients' transference
- the material that the patient introduces for analysis
- the patients' reaction to the therapist as a person
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Background, cont.
Counter Transference, cont.
When the patient affects the therapists' unsolved problems:
Distress reaction when unexpectedly finding something
un-revealed within themselves
The therapists' defensive reactions of distress
= Counter transference
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Background, Cont.
Pastoral care and Transference
Symbolic conflict
- Father/mother figure, representative of God = Ambivalence towards
authority (admiration and respect vs. rebellion and hostility)
- Personified with God, subject to representatives of God
(God as he is, God as the congregation sees him, God as I see
him)
Sexual transference in pastoral care
- Idealized father/mother figure: Idealized cleric? (Trying to win
his/her approval)
Negative reactions (hostility, anger)
Sexually provocative reactions (acting in seductive ways)
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Background, Cont.
Pastoral care and Counter transference
Difficult processes for therapists to handle
- Even more so for a cleric? (more socially and emotionally
involved with the people whom they work with)
A cleric who is afraid of his/her own sexuality may deny erotic
feelings in situations where he/she need to be aware that he/she
is responding in a sexually provocative or reactive way
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Method
Denominations studied: the Church of Sweden and the
Swedish Catholic Church (Pentecostal Church to be included)
Participants contacted through mail (Church of Sweden) and
recruited through the Swedish Catholic bishop
Focus group interviews (N = 3): 4-5 participants/group, gender
separated groups, lasting approximately 2 hours each
Transcripts analyzed according to thematic analysis
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Results / Themes
1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
1.1 The secluded area as sexually charged
1.2 The image of clerics as sexually desirable (”purity” and
”innocence”)
1.3 Caring for people in strong emotional states can be sexually
charged
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.1 Fear of misinterpretations
2.2 Fear of being falsely accused of misconduct
2.3 Minimizing or refusing physical contact
2.4 Distanced attitude and something being lost
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1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
…I think that they [confidants] can express… uh that, something that
has to do with friendship /.../ "If only you were... my, what if I had
met you”, and so on, /…/ [they] can express that you’re their dream
uh, dream partner... heart-to-heart, not in the way that you’re their
minister but that you’re their friend, and things like that. I think,
that I’ve experienced that quite often, I think.
Female minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, cont.
1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
1.1. The secluded area as sexually charged
So, the secluded area, this situation of being one-on-one with each
other, uh... it's a specific, so the environment and the specific
energies that somehow seem to uh, that you should not
underestimate /.../ maybe it [crossing sexual boundaries] couldn’t
happen to anyone but uh, you shouldn’t underestimate the energies
that come into play...
Male minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, cont.
1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
1.2. The image of clerics as sexually desirable
Yes probably, I was exposed to a ... this happened only a few weeks ago,
there was this woman who wanted to get in my pants just because she
found out that I was a minister
Male minister, Church of Sweden
But there’s something exciting about ministers in the Church of Sweden,
and not just in the Church of Sweden, but there's something exciting
about clerics
Female minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, cont.
1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
1.2. Cont. The image of clerics as sexually desirable
(pictures of “purity” and “innocence”)
It is assumed that a minister is innocent somehow huh, and there’s
some sort of, it... yes of purity in this, that in this room someone is
clean and someone is unclean, and it's a very strange feeling. /.../
And when people are, well trying to get physical contact as well.
Hugs and... and, and stuff ... so it's hard to know where this belongs
so to say, is it to test, "can I touch her here, or can’t I?”
Female minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, Cont.
1. Images of transference: Sexual desire in pastoral care
1.3. Caring for people in strong emotional states can be
sexually charged
…but I wouldn’t want to touch someone who had just lost a loved one /…/
especially when a person is that exposed having lost a loved one, it is,
and it’s so charged that I try to avoid that, maybe even too much
Male minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
…more careful than you actually need to be / ... / that you don’t uh,
necessarily put yourself in situations where you’re alone with, with
people who are difficult or hurt, wounded. But of course, sometimes
pastoral care demands that you’re actually alone with your confidant.
Male minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.1. Fear of misinterpretations
...‘cause it may also be a bit of a psychological game where a young
person become more and more [sexually] provocative just because you
get the wrong feelings going
Male minister, Church of Sweden
... I keep myself from uh... here we have a, a kindergarten outside.
Wonderful little children, uh, I don’t stop to say hi to them / ... / I, I
greet children and so formally, but I don’t stop to do anything with
them, with any child. / ... / So I mean, so in [native south European
country] you would run after them. No, you have to be careful
Priest, Catholic Church
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Results, cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.2. Fear of being falsely accused of misconduct
And of course it’s [clerics and sexuality] charged, and I mean… that’s
always a risk somehow. ’Cause there are people who like to allude to that
too, and who think that’s really exciting. /…/ So in that way, with open
doors you try to protect yourself as far as possible, not to end up in that
situation.
Male minister, Church of Sweden
Uh, ‘cause we know that in the Church we also meet people who aren’t ...
that has special needs ... and uh, some of them when they don’t get their
needs met, they avenge terribly, and in our days it´s enough ... spreading
rumors, or even file a complaint /... / and even if you can show later on
that there was, that it probably didn’t happen that way, the damage is
already done.
Priest, Catholic Church
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Results, Cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.3. Minimizing or refusing physical contact
I told her "we can talk about anything, your marriage as we've talked
about and we can talk about this and that stuff, but I don´t want any
physical contact," and I stand by that. She wanted to, and it was so obvious
that she wanted to /.../ she came up and gave me a hug... just because she
was happy to see me and then I told her afterwards, "I don’t want that”.
Male minister, Church of Sweden
…there have been times when confidants have come up to me with their
arms out, and where I very ostentatiously have put out my hand.
Male minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, Cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.4. Distanced attitude and Something being lost
…you [learn] not to ”drown” in people. ’Cause we know that people
also have a tendency to be sticky, to exploit and you have to avoid that
Priest, Catholic Church
…and it sounds awful when I say it out loud, and when you print it out
later, but truly nothing upsets me anymore. And as a human I can feel
that’s so sad, when I go out of my professional self and become
something else
Female minister, Church of Sweden
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Results, Cont.
2. Counter transference reactions: Facing desire
2.4. Cont. Distanced attitude and Something being lost
But there is also a risk, you feel that there’s something lost, that, the
positive parts of physical contact, where so much can happen just by...
touching eh ... and, the longer I've worked with, the more experienced
I’ve become over these years, these... [inaudible] and the more careful
Male minister, Church of Sweden
…in my experience, I think I’ve become a different person in relation to
others… not more suspicious on everybody else, but more suspicious on
myself and on how I behave
Male minister, Church of Sweden
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Discussion
Those participating, more open?
The clerical position = Position of power and reverence which
can be sexually desirable
Pastoral care involves meeting people in grief and in strong
emotional states. Psychological structures surrounding
experiences of being cared for/attaching to someone could
also provoke sexual feelings, as these systems are
intertwined
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Discussion, cont.
Counter transference arises within the cleric as a result of the
confidants' impact on unconscious feelings
We see the image of being desired
This described image involve both the one in inferior position
desiring the “helper”, and the one in power position
perceiving/expecting to be desired by the confidant
Desire (demanded/expected) as creating hierarchal
structures and maintaining positions of power
Implications beyond the sphere of ministry and Church?
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Discussion, Cont.
Focusing on pastoral care
What is lost when clerical reactions limits good aspects of
physical contact and closeness, and creates a distanced
attitude (suspicion, feeling of something being lost, and a
closed off “professional self”)?
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Concluding remarks
In therapy the caregivers' transference interpretations can bring
long-term stable changes in the patient’s life (e.g. Gabbard & Westen,
2003). In particular patients with low-quality of object relations
benefits more from therapy with transference interpretations than
without (e.g. Høglend et al., 2006; 2008).
Clergy being accessed as both counselors and mental health
workers (e.g. Hendron, Irving & Taylor, 2011). Pastoral care is a growing
part of ministry (e.g. DeMarinis, 2003; Hendron, Irving and Taylor, 2011).
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Concluding remarks, Cont.
Processes of transference and counter transference are present
in pastor care
Influencing cleric, confidant, and effect of care given
Pastoral care giving clerics being aware of therapeutic
processes may be better equipped for individual care
sessions
Beneficial to both confidant and cleric
Make clerics aware
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Thank you for listening!
Lisa Rudolfsson
University of Gothenburg
[email protected]
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