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Goal: Clarify community engagement in WMF product development process
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This task is a Community-Relations-Support quarterly goal for January-March 2016.

The ultimate objective is to implement the precise steps of community involvement in the WMF Product Development Process - make sure they work and are followed. The first step (covered in this task) is to define how communities and development teams are expected to work together.

Measurement of success

  • Documented steps for engaging with communities in product stages - T126296
  • Proposal for product prioritization which includes communities

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 DuplicateQgilT125545 Phabricator Q&A session for Community Liaisons
 ResolvedQgilT116025 Goal: Align Community Liaison and Developer Relations project management practices
 ResolvedQgilT119387 Community Liaison and Developer Relation quarterly goals for January - March 2016
 DuplicateNoneT116294 A guide for WMF Engineering teams to prevent known problems with volunteers
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 DuplicateNoneT114324 Finalize CL toolkit within Product development
 DeclinedNoneT125805 WMF product development process 1.0
 DeclinedNoneT125806 Consolidate the WMF product development process overview
 DeclinedNoneT125807 Consolidate the Understand subpage of the product development process
 DeclinedNoneT125808 Consolidate the Concept subpage of the product development process
 DeclinedNoneT125809 Consolidate the Plan subpage of the product development process
 DeclinedNoneT125810 Consolidate the Develop subpage of the product development process
 DeclinedNoneT125811 Consolidate the Release subpage of the product development process
 DuplicateNoneT119891 Document checklist for releasing a new feature
 ResolvedKeeganT132622 Agreement on when and how Product teams communicate
 DeclinedNoneT125812 Consolidate the Maintain subpage of the product development process
 InvalidKeeganT125815 Consolidate the Communities subpage of the product development process
 DeclinedKeeganT124022 Goal: Clarify community engagement in WMF product development process
 ResolvedKeeganT124288 Communication channels between communities and teams involved in the product development process
 DeclinedNoneT130602 Are messages from the WMF negatively affecting small Village Pumps?
 ResolvedPginer-WMFT258492 Please provide an up-to-date list or table of fallback languages
 ResolvedKeeganT126296 Documented steps for engaging with communities in product stages
 DeclinedNoneT115659 Collaborate on community-involved Prioritization process
 Resolved• MoushiraT113619 Discuss alternate ways to current quarter planning
 Resolved• ElitreT118231 Proposal: any WMF software project willing to be prioritized requires a concept publicly available
 DeclinedNoneT86157 Require WMF Engineering quarterly goals to have an associated Phabricator task
 ResolvedQgilT90360 Create a "Roadmap" project for visualisation of what's up-coming
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 ResolvedKeeganT123611 Define good practices to start working on project concepts privately
 ResolvedKeeganT120070 Recommendation for projects requesting prioritization or resources
 Resolved• ElitreT126952 Integrate Risker's checklist for content-creation extensions to the WMF product development process
 Resolved• MoushiraT121648 Do a mini research on best practices for product decision making in like-minded movements or platforms

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Qgil created this task.Jan 19 2016, 10:34 AM
Qgil raised the priority of this task from to Medium.
Qgil updated the task description. (Show Details)
Qgil added projects: Liaisons-January-2016, Community-Relations-Support.
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Qgil moved this task from Backlog to January-March 2016 on the Community-Relations-Support board.Jan 19 2016, 12:53 PM
• Rdicerb added a subtask: T114324: Finalize CL toolkit within Product development.Jan 19 2016, 11:46 PM
Qgil added a project: WMF-Product-Development-Process-2015.Jan 20 2016, 8:10 AM
AdHuikeshoven awarded a token.Jan 20 2016, 10:31 AM
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AdHuikeshoven added a comment.Jan 20 2016, 10:39 AM

As a documentation starter:

The WMF product development process very much looks like a waterfall process or method. Is that intentional or inevatible? Isn't that at odds with agile / scrum software development?

Aklapper added a comment.Jan 20 2016, 1:53 PM
In T124022#1947376, @AdHuikeshoven wrote:

The WMF product development process very much looks like a waterfall process or method. Is that intentional or inevatible? Isn't that at odds with agile / scrum software development?

Hi @AdHuikeshoven, as this task is about clarifying the community engagement in the process (emphasis by me), could you bring up your question on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:WMF_product_development_process ? Thanks a lot!

Qgil added a comment.Jan 20 2016, 2:52 PM

@AdHuikeshoven, see the long discussion at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Srnkvh5ip21d2mto

Bottom line: you can be as agile and as iterative as you want, but there is still one point where a concept starts becoming a plan, a point where a plan starts having a design, a point where a project gets more resources, a point where a functional prototype can be tested, etc.

Keegan claimed this task.Jan 20 2016, 9:08 PM
Keegan set Security to None.
Qgil added a parent task: T119387: Community Liaison and Developer Relation quarterly goals for January - March 2016.Jan 25 2016, 8:43 AM
Qgil mentioned this in T114082: Documenting thoughts on uptake of community software experiments.Jan 27 2016, 7:13 AM
Qgil added a parent task: T125815: Consolidate the Communities subpage of the product development process.Feb 4 2016, 1:50 PM
Keegan added a comment.Feb 4 2016, 8:06 PM

Very initial pen-to-paper-to-wiki page beginning: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Keegan_(WMF)/sandbox2

Keegan mentioned this in T121260: Q4 Goal: Internal work on product design and development principles and process.Feb 9 2016, 12:42 AM
Keegan added a subtask: T126296: Documented steps for engaging with communities in product stages.Feb 9 2016, 12:48 AM
Keegan updated the task description. (Show Details)
• Elitre subscribed.Feb 9 2016, 6:39 PM
Qgil mentioned this in T124288: Communication channels between communities and teams involved in the product development process.Feb 25 2016, 9:53 PM
Qgil added a subtask: T115659: Collaborate on community-involved Prioritization process.Feb 25 2016, 10:17 PM
Keegan closed subtask T126296: Documented steps for engaging with communities in product stages as Resolved.Mar 2 2016, 10:02 PM
Qgil mentioned this in T126296: Documented steps for engaging with communities in product stages.Mar 2 2016, 10:07 PM
Qgil added a project: Liaisons-March-2016.Mar 8 2016, 10:12 AM
Trizek-WMF subscribed.Mar 16 2016, 10:38 AM
Qgil moved this task from January-March 2016 to Apr-Jun-2016 on the Community-Relations-Support board.Apr 2 2016, 8:34 AM
Qgil edited projects, added Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun-2016); removed Community-Relations-Support.
Qgil moved this task from Backlog to Ready to Go on the Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun-2016) board.Apr 3 2016, 9:47 PM
Qgil mentioned this in T115659: Collaborate on community-involved Prioritization process.Apr 6 2016, 1:19 PM
Qgil added a comment.Apr 6 2016, 1:23 PM

@Keegan , this task was one of the T119387: Community Liaison and Developer Relation quarterly goals for January - March 2016. For the current quarter we have T131883: Communication workflows between WMF Product teams and Wikimedia communities. Should we keep this task open and continue working on its blockers from here, or should we "dissolve" the missed goal and work directly on these tasks?

• MZMcBride subscribed.Apr 22 2016, 1:21 AM
• MZMcBride mentioned this in T132643: Agreement on when and how communities provide feedback..Apr 22 2016, 1:36 AM
Qgil edited projects, added Community-Relations-Support; removed Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun-2016).May 3 2016, 9:51 AM
Qgil edited projects, added Community-Relations-Support (Apr-Jun-2016); removed Community-Relations-Support.May 4 2016, 11:58 AM
Qgil removed a subtask: T114324: Finalize CL toolkit within Product development.Jun 7 2016, 12:13 PM
Qgil added a parent task: T114324: Finalize CL toolkit within Product development.
Keegan closed this task as Declined.Jun 14 2016, 1:37 AM
In T124022#2183313, @Qgil wrote:

@Keegan , this task was one of the T119387: Community Liaison and Developer Relation quarterly goals for January - March 2016. For the current quarter we have T131883: Communication workflows between WMF Product teams and Wikimedia communities. Should we keep this task open and continue working on its blockers from here, or should we "dissolve" the missed goal and work directly on these tasks?

Dissolving this, yes. It became other tasks.

Keegan closed subtask T124288: Communication channels between communities and teams involved in the product development process as Resolved.Jun 16 2016, 6:31 PM
Aklapper closed subtask T115659: Collaborate on community-involved Prioritization process as Declined.Aug 1 2016, 9:13 AM
• Phabricator_maintenance added a project: Goal.Aug 13 2016, 8:39 PM
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