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We need to evaluate the current cons and pros of quarter planning process, and think of alternate ways how to make the process more open, while still keeping things organized.

What does it itake to move to a collaborative model: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Melamrawy_%28WMF%29/Quarterly_Planning_template

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Thank you @Moushira, this task is spot on. I'm adding Team-Practices because I think it is worth thinking about a model that works beyond Reading (although the general exercise shouldn't stop any experimentation with Reading or other teams willing to step in (@DannyH, Community-Tech comes to mind; I don't see why Developer-Advocacy could not step in right now).

The objective would be to have a process to organize community involvement in our planning of quarterly goals, setting common expectations and a calendar.

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Joel to check in with all parties on this ticket to communicate status of SPDPP, Wes's efforts, and other related efforts.

Thanks @JAufrecht, this was intended primarily for reading vertical as you see. I guess T117800 would block it, and slower the process, but why not :-). My question is:

  • Do we need to agree on a common process for all teams and move forward or rather have a small test with one team, (say Community Tech)?

This doesn't 100% fall under my job, what I would care for though is to have enough clarity and reasoning on the decisions made, as early as they are are in ideation phase. This saves us some arguments (because we can't avoid all arguments :-) and helps the sync and flow from preparation docs to phab execution tickets.

In Community Tech, we're going to start our grand Community Wishlist prioritization process next week. We'll be collecting proposals for two weeks in November, then a pause to sort and combine some proposals, and then have people vote on the proposals in the first two weeks of December.

So we'll definitely have some hands-on experience in collaborative planning over the next month, and I'd like to work with you all to figure out how that experience can inform other teams' process. It will be interesting and messy.

Just fyi, there is an ongoing discussion about Between "Concept" and "Plan" - Prioritize? in the context of the new WMF product development process.

I agree with @Moushira that all these parallel topics are interesting, but that they should not block any progress experimenting with more collaborative ways to plan our quarterly goals. Moushira, are you in sync with the people in WMF Engineering willing to improve the current quarterly goal planning process? Do they know about your proposal? Your intentions are well aligned with the progress we want to see around the WMF product development process, they deserve review.

Trevor, can that Google doc be made fully public?

Nudge to @TrevorParscal: can you make the Google doc public? Might want to warn commenters first.

Taking the lead via SPDPP is out of scope for this quarter, handing this back to anyone taking a lead role this quarter.

For reading, in Q3 we now have:
A page for roadmap moving forward:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Roadmap
A page for the team to list ideas for Q3
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Quarterly_Brainstorming/Q3

Archive of previous brainstorming:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Quarterly_Brainstorming

Having the team planning things on wiki, not an etherpad, is a first step towards openness In Q4, we can ask for community input, when both the community and the team have more time to prepare.

I am happy to claim this task as closed!

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