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- Wikidata:Properties for deletion – proposals for the deletion of properties
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This page is for the proposal of new properties.
Before proposing a property
- Search if the property already exists.
- Search if the property has already been proposed.
- Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
- Select the right datatype for the property.
- Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
- Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.
Creating the property
- Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
- Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
- See property creation policy.
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Infrastructure
editAviation
edit- see also: WikiProject Aviation
Water transport
edit- see also: WikiProject Ships
Railway
edit- see also: WikiProject Railways
Thai railway station identifier (Thai language)
editDescription | Thailand railway station identifier written in Thai |
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Represents | railway station (Q55488) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | railway station (Q55488) in Thailand (Q869) |
Allowed values | FILTER(!REGEX(?code, "[0-9a-zA-Z]")) (not sure) |
Example 1 | Nong Tao Railway Station (Q28197321)>→ นต. |
Example 2 | Bang Chak Railway Station (Q25053170) → จก. |
Example 3 | Ban Sok Rang railway station (Q109002701) →บั. |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Country | Thailand (Q869) |
See also | station code (P296), Indian Railways station code (P5696), Israel Railways station number (P13093) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
edit- Make Thailand stations more identifiable.Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 21:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Question Is there a formatter URL, or at least a source for these identifiers? --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure who issued these codes, but they are well documented both in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railway_stations_in_Thailand and in most of Thai infobox, eg there https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%96%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%96%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%9F%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%8D%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%A8 Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 10:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Without the formatter URL, the existing station code (P296) parameter is sufficient for this purpose. – balint36 passenger complaints 23:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps but the current modelling with P296 is unfriendly to query between multiples P296 values for same station. Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 20:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
SNCF station trigram
editDescription | Trigram identifier used for french SNCF stations |
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Data type | External identifier |
Domain | railway station (Q55488) |
Allowed values | ^[A-Z0-9]{1,3}$ |
Example 1 | Strasbourg-Ville station (Q801473) → "SG" |
Example 2 | Gare d'Angoulême (Q3095646) → "A" |
Example 3 | Marseille-Saint-Charles station (Q371217) → "MSC" |
Source | https://github.com/trainline-eu/stations/blob/master/stations.csv |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
See also | station code (P296), UIC station code (P722), Gares & Connexions ID (P3104), SNCF Station ID (P8181) |
Wikidata project | https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject Railways |
Motivation
editSNCF stations are identified by company staff with a trigram code (1 to 3 letters, sometimes numbers). Unlike the UIC code, it's specific to the company, but it's widely used, especially by employees close to railway production; in most of the company's IT tools, it's this code that's displayed and used: it's easy to remember, unique for each French station, and “looks like” the initial name.
This would then make it possible to automatically update OpenStreetMap stations and easily produce this kind of maps.
Discussion
editNotified participants of WikiProject France,
Notified participants of WikiProject Railways. Samoasambia ✎ 01:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Railway station linear reference
editDescription | Stations are located on one or more railway routes, each at a given milestone. This makes it possible to situate them in the topology of a railway infrastructure. A linear reference system can be used to position any object on this topology. In this case, we would add one or more route (or line) number + milestone data pairs. |
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Represents | railway station (Q55488) |
Data type | String |
Allowed values | ^\d+(\.\d+)?:\d+(\.\d+)?$ |
Example 1 | Strasbourg-Ville station (Q801473) → "142000:0" "70000:502" |
Example 2 | Marseille-Saint-Charles station (Q371217) → "830000:862.05" |
Example 3 | Arcachon (Q2777199) → "657000:57.972" |
Source | https://ressources.data.sncf.com/explore/dataset/liste-des-gares/table/ |
Number of IDs in source | About 1 to 10 occurences by railway station |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
See also | milestone (Q10145) route number (P1671) |
Motivation
editIt is VERY useful to construct railway topology to make pathfinding along stations. It could be imported to OpenStreetMap (next step!).
I think we could better normalize (and reference) route number / milestone pair, but I don't know how to do that? Nethenic
In addition to the SNCF database, the RINF also contains such data. For example, here is Valenciennes railway station (Q1887294): https://data-interop.era.europa.eu/describe#http%3A%2F%2Fdata.europa.eu%2F949%2FfunctionalInfrastructure%2FoperationalPoints%2F6cb1ddc5faf758084179dcfab543e777b13f2833
The railway location of an infrastructure object parameter contains the milestone + line number data pairs. – balint36 passenger complaints 22:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
editDo we need a new property for this? Why not use connecting line (P81) with linear reference (P6710) as a qualifier? --PhiH (talk) 21:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
erail.in railway station identifier
editDescription | erail.in railway station identifier |
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Represents | railway station (Q55488) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | railway station (Q55488) in India (Q668) |
Allowed values | [0-9A-Z]{1,5} |
Example 1 | Purabsarai railway station (Q24942807)→ PBS |
Example 2 | Vadnagar railway station (Q24948516) → VDG |
Example 3 | Amritsar railway station (Q15643961) → ASR |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Formatter URL | https://erail.in/station-live/$1 |
Country | India (Q668) |
See also | station code (P296), Indian Railways station code (P5696), Israel Railways station number (P13093) |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
edit- Make Indian stations more identifiable along with P5696.Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 20:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Oppose Wikidata:Property proposal/etrain.info station ID was proposed and withdrawn long ago; a value for this property that is different from the P5696 value was not provided then, and is here not provided now. Mahir256 (talk) 17:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Mahir256, unless any proof can be provided that it's not the same identifier. For now I've added third-party formatter URL (P3303) and URL match pattern (P8966) to Indian Railways station code (P5696). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 12:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
SBOID
editDescription | Swiss ID for public transit companies |
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Represents | Swiss Business Organisation ID (Q131298836) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | transport company (Q740752) |
Allowed values | ch:1:sboid:\d+ |
Example 1 | Luftseilbahn Adliswil-Felsenegg (Q1273422) → ch:1:sboid:100162 |
Example 2 | Renfe Operadora (Q2476154) → ch:1:sboid:100863 |
Example 3 | Südbadenbus (Q187629) → ch:1:sboid:100311 |
Source | https://opentransportdata.swiss/en/cookbook/business-organisations/ |
Planned use | either import via mix'n'match or a custom bot |
Number of IDs in source | 1889 (as of November 22, 2024) |
Expected completeness | eventually complete (Q21873974) |
Implied notability | Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316) |
Formatter URL | https://atlas.app.sbb.ch/business-organisation-directory/business-organisations/$1 |
Single-value constraint | yes |
Distinct-values constraint | yes |
Motivation
editExternal identifier for public transit agencies/companies, issued by Switzerland. Specifically, SBOIDs are issued by System tasks customer information (Q131298912) acting on behalf of Federal Office of Transport (Q1005512), maintained in a database called Atlas (Q131298739) operated by Swiss Federal Railways (Q83835). Switzerland sometimes assigns SBOIDs to foreign companies such as Südbadenbus in Germany or even the Cuban railways. In those cases, the SBOID still starts with *ch:1:sboid:* just like for a Swiss company. The SBOID syntax is designed to be compatible with an eventual, not yet existing European standard for identifying transit agencies (similar to IFOPT stop ID (P12393) for transit stops), hence the ch: prefix. Switzerland seems to have gone ahead on this, there’s no European (CEN) standard yet for identifying transit agencies. --Sascha (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- There are almost 2000 of these? Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there’s currently 1889 organizations with an SBOID. A small number of these are state-owned conglomerates like Deutsche Bahn (Q9322) or Société nationale des chemins de fer français (Q13646) with millions of passengers each day. Most of the listed transit agencies are relatively small companies such as Auto AG Uri (Q33058015) which operates just a couple of bus lines. Some entries are super tiny, such as Mattelift (Q1909332) with a single elevator, but technically they’re a still a transit agency with a license and an ID. —Sascha (talk) 08:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
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