User talk:Salmancer

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BigDocFan, Junior Admin Bulbapedia (talk) 22:11, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Link templates

I noticed you've been doing a lot of work with Unite recently, and I wanted to let you know about {{UNITE}} if you were not aware about it. (There's a lot of others, which can be found at Bulbapedia:List of link templates.) Hope that helps. → Pika Tepig 999 03:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I forgot. The thing is that remembering there is a link template partway through linking usually just means powering through and linking normally for me. The cost of going back and replacing square brackets with curly brackets and adding the parameter is a little high once you have already typed, "[Stealth (UNI...". I'll try to keep it more in mind. Salmancer (talk) 02:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

No worries. It doesn't make sense to go back and change them right now, but if someone is editing the page in the future, it could be updated then. I just wanted to let you know about it as I thought you might not know that existed since it was made pretty recently. → Pika Tepig 999 05:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Another link template you'll want to be aware of is {{p}}. It's for linking Pokémon species pages. so you'll want {{p|Numel}} instead of [[Numel (Pokémon)|Numel]]. Just thought you'd want to know! ^Maverick _Nate 11:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

That's me playing with Visual Editor. (No sense looking at buttons for new features if I don't use them.) Though this does remind me that there is a template button in the editor that is technically required to use. Salmancer (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

TCG Client

You've moved TCG Online and TCG Live from "Other" to "TCG Client". However, Pokémon Card Game Online was essentially the same thing. All three are technically MMOs, which might be a better term than "client". - bthrussellUK (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

So there was a talk page bit over at the Template_talk:Spin-off series#TCG Online Client Series split? where I originally advocated for grouping Card Game Online in. I didn't for three reasons:

1. TCG Live is officially the successor of TCG Online, whereas Card Game Online appears to be a separate initiative with no direct connection to TCG Online short of genre and gameplay. Meaning, Bulbapedia would have to agree that Card Game Online would be grouped with the other two for being thematically linked. Since that talk page got no response, I went for the split that is backed up by official sources. It is a sweeping change, and that can't be done without staff approval. (and possibly consensus, but I haven't dug around policy pages enough to conclusively determine if community consensus is sufficient without staff. It likely is not.) (Bulbapedia consensus would have likely would agreed to grouping all three games together, seeing as Side Series is a concept grouping a whole bundle of games that aren't related with each other with a vague definition that mostly serves as a convenient way to put games related to the core series closer to the core series, but making assumptions tends to be bad.)
2.Grouping games just for being in the same genre opens a can of worms that everyone should be okay with before opening. Do Shuffle and Cafe Remix go together, and do they go with Trozei too? Say Tap and Dancing Pokemon Band are both rhythm games, is it a series of two? Does Magikarp Jump fit with Pokemon Sleep, or does Sleep's status as a health app keep the two separate? (All of the prior examples have the same developer by the way.) Should Playhouse be considered the sequel to Camp? Should all the arcade Medal games go together, since they all share the same genre? Maybe only the ones with the same developer and publisher? Quest kind of resembles Rumble, especially Rumble Rush. Does this make Quest indirectly related to the Rumble series? (The last one is super strawmanny, but it's the kind of thing that now has to be adjudicated by someone.)
3. The name picked needs to sufficiently delineate these from the Game Boy games, which are already a clear cut series. (I don't think putting Online and Live with those games is helpful, but explaining why would be another paragraph.) This means describing TCG Online and Live as digital TCGs/CCGs, as many sources do, is not really an option. So I rattled my head a bit and landed on "Client", which is what people sometimes call Magic: the Gathering Online and Magic: the Gathering Arena. I think it might be a bit old-timey.

Now that I think about it, listing games as being in the "MMOTCG series" seems odd, and everything in the spin off series template describes the group as a series except for Picross. I would be opposed to "MMOTCG series" but I fully support just "MMOTCGs". "Simulators" could also work, but I fear it does not exclude the Game Boy games well enough. Salmancer (talk) 02:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Suggestions for major content upheavals

I’ve noticed you suggest a significant amount of content changes that would involve very large editing projects to upwards of thousands of articles. I think the engagement is amazing! The content should always evolve to be better and resolve longstanding problems. I do think that it might be more effective in the longterm to compile these items in a list in your userspace instead of spread around specific individual talk pages to get lost to time. No one is going to find a discussion about Japanese exclusive prints on the talk page of Burning Shadows Lycanroc, and for any suggestions that affect a large swath of articles, it may already be being discussed somewhere else or even planned on the project page! It’s no secret that the franchise is ballooning beyond what the current workforce of the wiki can handle, and while it’s commendable that you want to start a ton of editing improvements, the resources, workforce, and infrastructure to carry out those changes simply isn’t there right now. We have to carefully plan our large scale editing projects in relation to each other so that we can ensure that they are actually completed, so I really think a single list compiling your large scale wish list of content changes would help ensure they actually are completable in the future. It would certainly be easier to track one page instead of dozens of talk pages. What do you think? ^Maverick _Nate 03:23, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Would love to hear your thoughts on this Salmancer, as you seem to still be starting a lot of talk page discussions and opening up a lot of large proposals. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but I agree with Nate that it would make things a lot easier to track if you compiled your ideas in one place.

Additionally, you make several lengthy proposals a week, which consumes a lot of time for us to read through that we could be spending working through higher priority tasks. The number of tasks is also not something we can realistically keep up with, so proposing more and more of them doesn't make it more likely that we can achieve any of the things you want to see happen. Smaller or more incremental changes might be a lot easier for us Admins to help carry out. Alternatively, you could list some of your biggest ideas that you think are most important so that we have an idea of what we may be able to prioritize. We also have a wiki forum which would be a great place to post long-form proposals that have significant scope and impact.

Overall, while you're not doing anything problematic, I just feel there are better ways for you to organize your ideas so that we can realistically work with you on making some of these changes happen. Do any of these suggestions sound amenable to you? Landfish7 08:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I get the message. This is eating all my wiki time for the day (which bugs me because there are fires that need putting out) but something should pop up sooner or later. I guess it would make it more efficient to resolve everything. (and help me pick a task instead of waffling on what to do)

Turns out, collecting everything is harder than I thought, and I'm the one who made all the suggestions to begin with. I guess the point is clear. Salmancer (talk) 19:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

User:Salmancer Heads up, partially constructed list done up Salmancer (talk) 21:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please stop putting spam in your edit summaries. We appreciate you suffering through Quest for the wiki, but don't make everyone else suffer by having to see you go on and on about how much you hate it. Thanks. glik^glak 12:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

1-day block for vandalism

Hi. Edits like this, where you purposely damage the quality of a page to get your way, are considered vandalism. Because of this, per the blocking policy, you have been blocked for vandalism for 24 hours. If you are found to have vandalized pages again in the future, you will face an even longer block. You have been permitted the ability to edit your talk page to explain yourself. Landfish7 16:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

GX Attacks

Would 'Cards with GX Attacks' not just be, Category:Pokémon-GX cards? That category feels a bit unecessary. ^Maverick _Nate 02:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

The Z-Crystals, obscure as they are, make the case by adding a +3 to the category. Salmancer (talk) 02:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

That's true. In that case, in place of manually adding a category to 165 pages, we could simply add it to the two templates and have it autopopulate. ^Maverick _Nate 02:57, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

We can get the template to do it... how exactly? Says here that splicing strings is banned from MediaWiki, and LUA is a couple eternities away. Is there something else in the back end that can handle picking "-GX" and "Star*" out from the other attacks? - unsigned comment from Salmancer (talk • contribs)

The category should be populating now. I'll add it to the high-use TCG Trainer Text template when we are no longer in a busy period for the site. ^Maverick _Nate 03:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Neutral writing style

I noticed that some of your recent edits are not written in a neutral and encyclopedic style. To quote the revelant section from our manual of style:

Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, and as such should use a clear, easily understood literary style. Writing should be informative and brief, and avoid flowery language or unusual sentence structures. (...) Bulbapedia's content should focus on being informative and avoid opinions.

For example, this edit, as well as parts of this and this edit, contain unnecessary editorial (i.e. personal/non-neutral) notes. As an encyclopedia, however, Bulbapedia should aim to be neutral and refrain from having these kind of notes in its mainspace content.

As a side note, I would like to suggest to keep this in mind when editing talk pages, too. Talk page entries can necessarily involve your personal opinion, and that's totally fine, but it would certainly help to keep a stronger focus on exactly what you're addressing, why you're addressing it, and how you'd want it to change (rather than being suuper flowery and anecdotal about it).

I adore the energy and passion you have, but I'm sure there's better ways for you to use them for the better of our encyclopedia. For example, I let my personality shine through via edit summaries from time to time (which allow for some personal stuff, at least to some extent), while always focusing on the main aspects of what I'm on. Hope that makes sense! Nescientist (talk) 18:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:TCGMerch Link Template

Hi! Links to TCG Merch items should be using the {{TCGMerch}} link template. This template links to the pages that house the information on TCG merchandise, such as XY TCG Series merchandise. There are four parameters, the first three are required. To link to Sylveon Collection, you will need {{TCGMerch|XY|Series|Sylveon Collection}}. {{{1}}} is the name of the Series or Era, {{{2}}} is 'Series' or 'Era', depending on if the product is English or Japanese, {{{3}}} is the name of the product, and {{{4}}} is alt text if you want the link to say something different than the product name. I noticed that your addition to Eeveelutions had many incorrect redlinks, so please use this template in the future. Thanks. ^Maverick _Nate 02:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Proper capitalization

You have been very inconsistent with writing LV.X properly. The V is always capitalized unless it is from a direct quote of something. I spent this morning going through your recent edits to catch any instances of Lv.X, so please be more careful going forward. ^Maverick _Nate 15:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)