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Re: lilypond & wikipedia


From: Johannes Schindelin
Subject: Re: lilypond & wikipedia
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:51:43 +0200 (CEST)
User-agent: Alpine 1.00 (DEB 882 2007-12-20)

Hi,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Francisco Vila wrote:

> 2009/4/21 Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima <address@hidden>:
>
> > I would like to know if there is any progress about this topic. How is 
> > it going? (is it going?)
> 
> Are you talking about
> 
> - the LilyPond article on Wikipedia
> - the LilyPond plugin for mediawiki
> 
> There was an interesting project in http://draft.wikilily.org but it
> is currently unreachable.

I think Helder was talking about my MediaWiki extension I posted a 
full four years ago (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189).

Basically, it allows you to work on music collaboratively, using the 
MediaWiki engine, and the LilyPond syntax inside <lilypond>...</lilypond> 
or <lilybook>...</lilybook> tags.

I was less than impressed by the speed the MediaWiki people showed at 
picking up that pretty simple extension, and when they finally said 
something -- years later -- they mumbled something about security 
concerns.

Unfortunately, this upset me so much that I wrote rather scathing remark 
that if they are concerned about security (think DOS and Scheme), they 
should not speculate, but ask on the Lilypond list instead -- it is Open 
Source, people are willing to help.

Needless to say, the MediaWiki big-whigs never showed up here.

I think their concern that Scheme is needed to do anything useful is 
unfounded, and that Scheme just should be disabled for the purpose of the 
MediaWiki extension.

But frankly, they annoyed me so much, and it Works Here, so I decided to 
stop bothering and work with other people on other stuff, both of which 
gives me more fun.

Oh, and it seems that a lot of lobbying went on to push ABC notation, even 
if we all know how ABC output looks.  I am really not impressed when 
politics take over Open Source projects, so I am out of the game.

Ciao,
Dscho





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