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Sources for Major League Rugby standings

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Hello, project members. I am hoping to create a dedicated seasons list for the Seattle Seawolves of Major League Rugby to finish a series of Featured lists that I have created for the professional sports teams in Seattle. I have yet to find a definitive source for the year-to-year standings in MLR, as it seems the league website does not keep an archive (and the Wayback Machine was not able to capture them properly), and other websites (such as ESPN) only have partial data. Is there a good third-party source that would fulfill the FL criteria's requirement for a high-quality, reliable source, similar to Sports Reference? SounderBruce 07:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Unfortunately, the MLR is still not covered by most websites that keep record of match results and standings of rugby competitions and tournaments. I did, however, find a reliable source for those standings tables on the website of Americas Rugby News. You can access the years 2018–2023 via the links on this page. It's not a sports stats website, but they have good info about the MLR and about rugby in North (and South) America in general. By the way, it's possible to archive the official MLR standings via archive.today. I just tried it with the 2024 standings. Unfortunately, nobody has saved the standings of previous years there, but it does work well (it just looks a bit different). I hope this helps. Ruggalicious (talk) 09:38, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ARN seems to be my best bet. Thanks! SounderBruce 19:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mass Olympics 7s creations

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I came across a user creating dozens of pages about rugby sevens players from this year's Olympics. Almost all of them are sub-stubs with little more than "so-and-so played rugby sevens for country at the Olympics". Are these worth keeping? Primefac (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd imagine that some of these will pass WP:GNG, but not all of them. Perhaps draftifying them and making them go through new article creation would be a better option than flat out deleting, but then again seeing what passes through new article creation as passing guidelines who knows if this would actually work. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RfC at WikiProject Sports

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An RfC at WikiProject Sports is currently seeking a consensus on whether images of all venues in a tournament should be presented in a tournament article's § Venues section. Feel free to join in and share your thoughts! — AFC Vixen 🦊 15:27, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong name

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Yo, people. I think is about time we tackle this issue. (pun intended)

For those out of the loop, last year the Chinese government pressured different HK sports federations to add the word "China" to their names, or they would lose funding 1 2

The rugby union did follow the petition and changed their name from Hong Kong Rugby Union (HKRU) to Hong Kong China Rugby (HKCR). The new name can be seen not only on their official web page but also on other places like World Rugby rankings and match reports.

Some of us have started using the new name (when referring to their national teams, not the country itself), but there's always people changing it to "correct it". Most of the time I'm unable to tell apart those who do it in good faith and those who don't, and honestly, I don't wanna waste time in revert wars, so can we talk it as a group and decide what name to use?

ty PotatoNerd (talk) 18:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Change a re-direct to the main page

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Andy Onyeama-Christie should be the "main page" rather than Andy Christie as he is going by his real name now. I don't know how to change a re-direct to the main page. If anyone knows can they do it? If not I'll find out how later and do it. Skeene88 (talk) 09:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't think it will be controversial to do so, put a {{db-move}} on Andy Onyeama-Christie and an admin will delete the redirect (and if you're lucky, will also move the page). Primefac (talk) 10:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lineup changes

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What do people think of notes such as the following:

  • "Ox Nché (South Africa) was originally named to start at loosehead prop, but the Springboks coaches subsequently opted to rest him for the match, after announcing a revised starting line-up. He was replaced by Thomas du Toit, who shifted across from the tighthead position, which was, in turn, taken by Wilco Louw."

This is from 2024 end-of-year rugby union internationals. Notes like these occur regularly in other articles of rugby competitions.

I don't think they should be included. If a player is not in the matchday 23 squad, we really don't need to know why. This seems like WP:RECENTISM -- i.e., at the time the change is announced, it gets a news article and seems like a big deal, but several months after the competition, nobody cares that a lineup change was announced a day before a match. Curious to hear others' thoughts. CUA 27 (talk) 01:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]