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Tranmere Rovers: The Complete Record

Does anyone have a copy of this book? I used to, but can't find it. I have no recollection why I created a stub for Harold Fishwick back in 2012 (now up for deletion). But the referenced book would at least specify why he was notable enough to warrant a section in that book. U003F ^? 11:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Introducing Let’s Connect

Hello everyone,

I hope that you are in good spirits. My name is Serine Ben Brahim and I am a part of the Let’s Connect working group - a team of movement contributors/organizers and liaisons for 7 regions : MENA | South Asia | East, South East Asia, Pacific | Sub-Saharan Africa | Central & Eastern Europe | Northern & Western | Latina America.

Why are we outreaching to you?

Wikimedia has 18 projects, and 17 that are solely run by the community, other than the Wikimedia Foundation. We want to hear from sister projects that some of us in the movement are not too familiar with and would like to know more about. We always want to hear from Wikipedia, but we also want to meet and hear from the community members in other sister projects too. We would like to hear your story and learn about the work you and your community do. You can review our past learning clinics here.

We want to invite community members who are:

Part of an organized group, official or not
A formally recognized affiliate or not
An individual who will bring their knowledge back to their community
An individual who wants to train others in their community on the learnings they received from the learning clinics.

To participate as a sharer and become a member of the Let’s Connect community you can sign up through this registration form.

Once you have registered, if you are interested, you can get to know the team via google meets or zoom to brainstorm an idea for a potential learning clinic about this project or just say hello and meet the team. Please email us at [email protected]. We look forward to hearing from you :)

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Serine Ben Brahim (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National League Cup in stats tables

Despite being a 'league' cup, this tournament is for non-league teams in England. Do we count it in stats tables as 'League cup' or 'other'? Giant Snowman 13:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's the "league cup" for that league so I would say putting it under "league cup" is apt. Unless the consensus is that the "league cup" column is for the EFL Cup and nothing else.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say it's a League Cup. I would just use an Efn note or similar with the name of the competition as a note. RedPatch (talk) 14:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with above. It's "league cup", not "elite league cup", so it can include anything lower such as the National League Cup or Spain's Copa Federación. Agree with a footnote saying which competition it is. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the competition also added PL youth teams like the efl trophy, so those appearances would count for those players. they for sure would need a note then, as they could play in the league cup for man u, then the national league cup for man u u23.Muur (talk) 02:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 23 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Turkish Women's Football Super League#Requested move 23 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Feeglgeef (talk) 13:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gali Freitas age

I first noticed this player just today when I noticed his age being fixed on 2024 ASEAN Championship squads page. The player was involved in alleged age controversy a few years ago (see his page and 2019 AFF U-15 Championship for details). Per some of the sources linked in the latter article, he was cleared of any wrongdoing and deemed eligible (e.g. being born in 2004), but many of the external links on player's page show his YOB as 1996. [1] [2] So which date is correct? --BlameRuiner (talk) 08:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BlameRuiner,

I have roughly followed football in Timor for a while and have come across this too in the past. My gut feeling is that the current DoB (Born in 2004) is correct. His current squad PSIS lists that as his birthdate on their club website [3] and given that he was cleared of any wrongdoing I assume the initial accusations came to nothing.[4][5] I would consider those to be more accurate than the two websites you provided, which I've found to be somewhat inaccurate when keeping up with football in small nations like Timor.

That being said, I haven't ever found anything definitive that 100% confirms his age. To be honest, I'm not sure if any source exists. The original controversy started from his debut with the national team back in 2018 where he was listed as born in 1996 on the team sheet (Likely the date where the two references you provided got their DoB from). If he was born in 2004 that would mean that he made his national team debut at 13! I found two other players listed here as debuing at 15 as the youngest in the nations history: Anggisu Barbosa#:~:text=He is the second youngest,15 years and 172 days. As the national team was struggling at the time though, I feel like this may actually be believable.

Either way, I think the 2004 birth day is what most current sources say, so I'd consider it the most accurate to include. DomToblerone27 (talk) 06:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Transfermarkt has the right idea: "Date of birth is 31 December 1996 or 31 December 2004" [6] :P DomToblerone27 (talk) 07:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. Giant Snowman 11:45, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the investigation in 2019 concluded that he was eligible to play U-15 and was not 22 at the time, listing 2002 as year of birth seems the only sensible option to me. We can add a hatnote about 1996 date if needed, but 2004 seems like correct date. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: I think in this case Dom meant specifically how it's formatted. Date1 or Date 2, without picking one specific one. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree Transfermarkt isn't reliable. However, to the same degree neither is NationalFootballTeams.com or Worldfootball.net. I was more pointing out that in all of these reference databases there doesn't appear to be any definitive consensus, to the point where some of these websites list two dates.

I agree that 2004 seems most likely to be correct though. DomToblerone27 (talk) 22:08, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If we don't have a reliable source for his DOB, it cannot be included in the article. Black Kite (talk) 22:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Southeast Asia, we all know that he was cheated a few ages, but however there has never been enough evidence for this despite several complaints from other Federations. The Asian Football Confederation had always recognized his birthday as 31 December 2004. Last year he appeared with East Timor national under-23 football team at the 2024 AFC U-23 Asian Cup qualification without any problem. The official website of the Indonesian Liga I also states Gali Freitas as 20 years old here. Lâm (talk) 06:25, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]