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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 10, 2016.

Summer ford

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The result of the discussion was retarget. -- Tavix (talk) 03:09, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think this Neelix redirect should be retargeted to Summerford because there are two places named Summerford in Wikipedia. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 20:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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WPANATOMY-barnstar

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted per WP:CSD#G6. This is a redirect left from moving a page obviously created in the wrong namespace, the move took place circa 1 day after creation in March 2014, so there is no longer any plausible use for it. Thryduulf (talk) 11:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kew liste

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. (redirect to a page created in the wrong namespace and subsequently moved) Thryduulf (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[mistaken comment removed]. Thryduulf (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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VolleyballAt2016SummerOlympics

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 18#VolleyballAt2016SummerOlympics

Victoria Louise-class armored cruiser

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Victoria Louise-class cruiser. -- Tavix (talk) 03:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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User contrib CentralAuth simple

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. The page history shows this was moved to the wrong namespace accidentally. Thryduulf (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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University of Rhode Island presidents

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The result of the discussion was retarget. Thryduulf (talk) 00:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Shameless tv show

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Shameless#Television, a disambiguation. -- Tavix (talk) 03:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Redirect to Shameless (UK TV series) or Shameless (U.S. TV series) or disambiguate. Stefan2 (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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4000 run / 200 wicket double

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:29, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. If I thought this was a plausible search term I would be recommending retargetting it to the article at All-rounder. However it doesn't seem plausible (the stats back this up: it got only 2 hits in the 90 days before this RfD) so deletion is best. Thryduulf (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Lower limb muscles

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The result of the discussion was retarget Human_leg#Muscles as most plausible target. Deryck C. 11:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:18, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a fresh look at this, it doesn't say 'lower human limb muscles' so is there maybe a broader section about bipedal animals we could point this to? Kangaroos also have lower limb muscles, right? Ranze (talk) 04:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of universities in Montenegro

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The result of the discussion was listified, taking Joy's advice. -- Tavix (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Montenegro#Education which lists all of them in the first paragraph. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of all the violations of not crossing namespaces, main and template are the least controversial because templates are typically transcluded into main articles anyway, and as you can see from the fact that in 5 years this redirect has existed nobody really bothered to change it. Feel free to point it elsewhere or hell just copy&paste the list from the template to the list (I wanted to avoid duplication, but hey). --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:49, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - redirects from mainspace to reader-facing templates are not problematic in the slightest when there is no better target in article space (see also my argument in the nomination above). Here the section of the Montenegro article noted by Patar knight is appropriate, but not quite as good as the template which shows readers exactly what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Lunalilo family tree

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Lunalilo#Family tree. -- Tavix (talk) 03:12, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Indian states rankings

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 21#Indian states rankings

New York education institutions

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The result of the discussion was retarget all. Thryduulf (talk) 01:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Retarget to the appropriate section in List of high schools in New York City. Stefan2 (talk) 17:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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2016 FIVB-Rexona Ades roster

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Rio de Janeiro Vôlei Clube#Team. WJBscribe (talk) 16:17, 19 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Template:University of Rhode Island presidents

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6 - page unambiguously created in error as it was moved by it's original creator when they noticed. No need to clutter up RfD with these sorts of nominations, just tag them for speedy deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No need for a redirect with duplicate namespace. Stefan2 (talk) 17:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Template:1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per G6. Thryduulf (talk) 11:52, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No need for a redirect with duplicate namespace. Stefan2 (talk) 17:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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1980–81 Big Ten ice hockey standings

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The result of the discussion was retarget to 1980–81 NCAA Division I men's ice hockey season#Standings. -- Tavix (talk) 00:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 17:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Maroon 6

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect created by vandalism page move. The1337gamer (talk) 16:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete unless it's the title of one of their albums or the stylization of 5 makes it look like a 6, but I don't see this confusion in mainstream media sources. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:10, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – Keepin this obviously incorrect name makes it more likely that it will be used as a wiki link in articles, thus broadening the impact of this incorrect name. Also, having many redirects of the patten "Maroon (followed by a digit)" is foolish. Senator2029 “Talk” 14:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Sampoerna Hijau

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted as WP:G3.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect create by vandalism from page move. No relation whatsoever to target. The1337gamer (talk) 16:24, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The glitch pokemon missingno

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The result of the discussion was keep. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible redirect. Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why would the last one be repeatedly deleted if someone finds it useful and the glitch Pokémon (with accent) redirect has been retained all this time? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 13:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that sounds weird to me, especially with WP:DIACRITICS Patar knight cited. Maybe time to recreate that one. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's always plausible that someone would use a leading article, and in this case "the glitc" only turns up three choices (including this one) that begin with that string, so it's not adversely taking up space for useful searches. I would also support the recreation of the redlink per WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:08, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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21-1

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 21#21-1

Wikipedia:Number

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The result of the discussion was retarget all as suggested. This is a marginal case with valid arguments on both sides, though I find the retargeting arguments stronger: these shortcuts have incoming links but existing incoming links almost exclusively come from listings of shortcuts. Deryck C. 11:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing redirects. What do these have to do with the targets? Stefan2 (talk) 12:38, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Tavix: Just curious, have you seen the amount of incoming links to these redirects? Apparently, these redirects were formerly part of some sort of welcome template (that maybe no longer exists as these redirects have no incoming links in the "Template:" namespace) that was substituted on user talk pages, and thus, these redirects have more than 3000 incoming links each. Steel1943 (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose keep per nominator. We should strongly discourage internal use of obscure & confusing shortcuts with no apparent relation to their targets. There are basically unused outside of that welcome message I mentioned above; e.g. from article talkspace, WP:2 has a grand total of one incoming link (by its creator) and the others have none. I'd be happy with retarget per Tavix, since if we delete them someone would probably recreate them with an even more confusing target. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 15:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget all per Tavix. We should probably discourage the further use of confusing redirects and actually use them for something useful. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: @Stefan2, Steel1943, The Transhumanist, Tavix, Patar knight, and 210.6.254.106: I'm going to list a couple more of the same nature (i.e. single number redirects to Portal:Contents subpages) below that should also be considered. The keeps will seemingly equally apply, but new potential targets could be suggested on the retarget side.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

7 and 9 added to the nomination.—Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would support Tavix's proposed targets above. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Godsy, my opinion is that the current targets are inappropriate and that Tavix's proposals are better. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:30, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or retarget. No opinion on where these should go, but deleting shortcuts just because they're obscure or unusual isn't a problem in projectspace; if people decide that WP:NGFO (to hit a few random characters) gets a lot of use as a shortcut for Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Cesar Tort and Ombudsman vs others (to pick one of the longest projectspace names I could find), it doesn't hurt anything. Unless someone wants to use WP:2 for some other purpose, as is being suggested here, there's no reason to take it away from its established Portal:Contents/Outlines target. Nyttend (talk) 01:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the very large number of incoming links that would be broken by deletion or retargetting. It may not be an intuitive organisational scheme for everyone, but it was a structured system that was promoted by at least 1 welcome template. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf: That's not the case here. If you look at User:TomasBat/Welcome, the welcome template is not trying to promote the current targets, but simply listing every single single letter/number combination, no matter what the target is. Retargeting to more intuitive targets doesn't break that. -- Tavix (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't break that welcome template, but that template is not the source of all the incomming links. Thryduulf (talk) 20:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but Wikipedia:Shortcut directory is the only other place, and that's not an issue since it would just be updated after the closure of this RFD. You still haven't refuted my point: since these shortcuts are not being deliberately used "in the wild" to point to their current targets, retargeting these shortcuts would not break any incoming links. -- Tavix (talk) 20:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Lisie Hospital, Ernakulam

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The result of the discussion was keep at new target after the page move. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 02:31, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page moved from here only_nonsense (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

None of the other ones are notable. This is the one that shows up in the news so it would be primary topic. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:55, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Regions khanate

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Khanate. -- Tavix (talk) 00:04, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:R#D6. Stefan2 (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fine arts movie

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The result of the discussion was keep as refined. -- Tavix (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It'a unclear what this redirect refers to. Apparently, this may be a rough term for Film, but it's a rather unlikely search term if it is. Steel1943 (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Obdurately

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The result of the discussion was retarget the disambiguation page at obdurate. There's some split of opinion, but all in all there's a majority for disambiguation = retarget "obdurate" ≈ soft redirect to Wiktionary. Deryck C. 21:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is a procedural relisting from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 July 3#Obdurate. Note that Obdurate is now a disambiguation. -- Tavix (talk) 01:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • There's no point in keeping it redirected to Stubborn as there's nothing relevant at target. It's either delete or soft redirect to wiktionary per Patar knight's comment in the previous discussion. Is there consensus on the lower threshold of pageviews for creating a soft redirect? To me, five views per month looks borderline. Uanfala (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete My sense is that no one is going to enter the word "obdurate" as a search term and be pleased to arrive at "stubborn" as its redirect ("Oh! Of course! What I really meant was 'HMS Stubborn'! I thought it was the HMS Obdurate!"). I don't see a purpose in having a redirect to a synonym disambig page that only relates to the original term thesaurically (?). Are there topics under "Stubborn" which deserve a Wikipedia article? Absolutely. Are there terms under the disambig page for "Stubborn" that are legitimate alternate terms for "obdurate"? (Little Miss Obdurate, Louis the Obdurate). No. -KDS4444 (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Soft redirect per previous RfD; gets 6 hits a month and the DAB page for obdurate is not related to the adverb form at all. Per the page view tool's FAQ, this is all actual readers, not webcrawlers or other robots. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:47, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Obdurate, add to the wiktionary entry on that DAB page. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget and Wiktionary exactly per AngusWOOF. — Gorthian (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, largely per KDS4444 since Wikipedia doesn't have anything that could be considered "obdurately." There's the word, but we're not a dictionary, and per {{wi}}, a Wiktionary redirect needs to be something people search for on Wikipedia, and the stats show that people aren't searching for it at any meaningful level. -- Tavix (talk) 02:53, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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