Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/T-7 (rocket)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep (non-admin closure) Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
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Looks to be a dictionary definition with little third-party source to pass WP:GNG Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 21:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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- In principle, I think A ROCKET should be included. You will probably find a lot of news on the launch of an operation but not so much for the model. Viztor (talk) 00:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Viztor, but there's not much coverage of this model. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah. I initially did a google search in English, however do to the over simple name, there is little luck finding sources talking about the rocket. However, when I did it in Chinese, a significant amount of the reports are about the rocket. So I guess it's a keep. Viztor (talk) 06:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- Viztor, but there's not much coverage of this model. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- I tend toward a keep; there's 4 pages in this book dedicated to the model and its following variants. A sentence here. A page or two here. Similar here. Those are a couple of sources in English--seems to have some more; I expect there are a few more Chinese sources.
There does also seem to be a T-7 Russian rocket. --Izno (talk) 01:23, 14 June 2019 (UTC)- Izno, to me that seems like a list of facts and figures. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Uh, 4 pages of prose is a list of facts and figures? Never mind the other references. See p308 et al. --Izno (talk) 02:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, whoops it defaulted to the appendix.
- Hmm, maybe it's worth combining this rocket with other similar rockets? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Uh, 4 pages of prose is a list of facts and figures? Never mind the other references. See p308 et al. --Izno (talk) 02:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, to me that seems like a list of facts and figures. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect here per WP:WOOD. Viztor just asked on WP:Discord if you were right, Tyw7. I would say yes you are, but I do think that the family of rockets might be notable. I've yet to look in chinese language media, but I'm optimistic. (edit conflict) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 01:29, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- MJL, I tried looking online but the references are few and far in between. I think it wouldn't sufficiently pass WP:GNG. What you could do is combine the stubs together into an article about the rocket family? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:12, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Tyw7: [Thank you for the ping] This appendex and a few semi-reliable news sites. I wouldn't have closed out those tabs if I thought you were going to ask haha –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Tyw7: From the top of my head, it was this astro website and a few blogs (probably something called like Daily Science or whatevs). The real notability would be in Mandarin-language sources. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Tyw7: [Thank you for the ping] This appendex and a few semi-reliable news sites. I wouldn't have closed out those tabs if I thought you were going to ask haha –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 02:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- MJL, I tried looking online but the references are few and far in between. I think it wouldn't sufficiently pass WP:GNG. What you could do is combine the stubs together into an article about the rocket family? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 02:12, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep – I just happened to have written Wang Xiji, the rocket's designer, two weeks ago and am quite familiar with the topic. This is China's first sounding rocket and a historic milestone (the Chinese government built a monument at its first launch site, see photo in article). It is the predecessor of the Long March 1, the launch vehicle of China's first satellite. Astronautix.com has a detailed page about it [1], which I added to the article. There are also plenty of Chinese-language sources, and I expanded the article with info and sources about its development from Wang Xiji. Notable beyond doubt. -Zanhe (talk) 06:17, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Sources exist to justify notability. e.g. [2][3] [4] Whether the content gets merged or expanded is an organizational question best left to local consensus among interested editors and WikiProjects. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per the usual requirement of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Even when nominated this was nothing like a dictionary definition, being about a thing rather than a word or phrase. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep this article has significant coverage and reliable source to justify keeping. CryptoWriter (talk) 8:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep See above comments Viztor (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Zanhe has established notability and has done a splendid job in rescuing this article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Notability established. Seems like another article saved by the WP:RESCUE! AmericanAir88(talk) 21:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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