Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films shot at Parkwood Estate

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The result was merge to Parkwood Estate#Filming. Spartaz ^Humbug! 15:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of films shot at Parkwood Estate

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Completely unsourced list of films shot at a particular venue in a midsized suburban city. Most of the films appearing in the list don't have any sources to indicate that they were filmed at this location in their own articles either — I admittedly didn't comprehensively check every entry in the list, but not a single one of the entries I did spotcheck even mentioned this venue at all — and the list is also straying from its own stated premise to list television programming, including scripted series, non-fiction shows and even Christmas specials. Although the venue does have historic status, it's not so internationally prominent that a list of stuff purportedly but not verifiably filmed there would be critically important content for Wikipedia to maintain without proper sources for it. Bearcat (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 19:41, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge to Parkwood_Estate#Filming. Fine spinout article if too big in the main one, but shove it on over there. I'll see about finding references. Dream Focus 00:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They list all the things filmed there at https://www.parkwoodestate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Parkwood-Movies.pdf so references are not a problem. Some notable examples perhaps in the main article, with a link to that complete list might do just as well as having it here, since it'd be always up to date. Dream Focus 00:55, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing something like this to the venue's own self-published website about itself does not make it properly referenced, or even noteworthy per se — to make this a notable list that we should maintain, we require the filming to be referenced to media coverage about the productions, independent of Parkwood's own self-published web presence. Bearcat (talk) 22:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Valid information for the main article, so if its too large it can be spun out to a side article. Just like when an actor's filmography gets too large to fit, they put it in a side article. As for coverage https://www.looper.com/249594/why-the-mansion-in-the-boys-looks-so-familiar/ and elsewhere. Just Google for "filmed" "Parkwood Estate" -wikipedia to find more. I added references to some more sources in the article itself. Dream Focus 23:42, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And furthermore, we literally have articles like this for just two other buildings on the entire planet — and those two are the vastly more important Versailles and the British Museum. One of these could theoretically be compiled for practically every named building on earth, literally swamping Wikipedia with hundreds of thousands of these — so what makes Parkwood Estate so very special that it needs this when thousands upon thousands of much more important buildings don't and shouldn't have similar lists? Bearcat (talk) 13:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No reason why others couldn't exist, as long as the list is too long to fit in the main article. Category:Films shot in the United States by city You could make list of films by city filmed in even. The fact other things don't exist yet, has nothing to do with whether this one should exist. Dream Focus 16:11, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Films shot in city" is not the same thing, and not subject to the same considerations, as "films shot in one specific building". And yes, there is a reason why others couldn't and shouldn't exist: because there are literally millions, possibly even billions, of buildings on earth for which such a list could potentially be compiled, and there's no value in indiscriminately keeping millions of these just because they're technically possible. To keep something like this, we need a reason why the content would be valuable to maintain, not just an argument that there's nothing that would technically prevent it. Bearcat (talk) 15:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A mention of films in the parent article might be relevant, but being the location of filming is not a threshold above WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:NOTDIRECTORY, as you could make an list out of virtually any old location along these lines. In a cursory search I have not found anything beyond trivial mentions that talk specifically about Parkwood in relation to its use as a filming location that would be relevant to suggest it's actually a notable topic and not just a random list. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 19:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Dream Focus —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shankargb (talk • contribs) 00:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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