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Thanks, I didn't know. (Watching) - Dank (push to talk) 02:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

arbitration

with respect to this: [1] - I have no idea what 'authorized' means in this context, or how to accomplish it. I was told by a sysop (who may have been misinformed) that I merely needed to withdraw. can you advise? please respond here or in my talk - I've unwatchlisted the arbitration pages, since I have no further interest in participating. --Ludwigs2 00:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being untidy

Thanks MBK. Will go back through my work and retake a look, because was under impression they automatically redirected. Cheers from Wellington, Buckshot06 (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gimmebot

Actually, I think Gimmebot can handle this; I'm pretty sure if it encounters the assessments already changed, or the star already added, it's fine. I could be wrong! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cavalla

Re this diff, can you tell me where the "class article" is? I'm not seeing any difference in length between Cavalla and Sturgeon, and since I was the one that wrote the statement about Cavalla being longer, I'd like to be sure that know what I think I know. Thanks. kcylsnavS{screechharrass} 03:01, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"If you are going to change these notations, you cannot do it and put a citation needed tag as well, you must be able to properly cite it without resorting to original research." Yes, I'm aware of that. Not sure where the idea came up that I was thinking of doing anything like that. I was talking about the Cavalla page, not the Sturgeon Class page, and I'm glad it's resolved. kcylsnavS{screechharrass} 13:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Titanic

I've exanded the edit note to state that spellings should no be changed from br-EN to am-EN. If you can improve the wording please feel free to do so. Mjroots (talk) 09:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FAC for Organization of the Luftwaffe (1933-1945)

Hello,

Yes I am aware of the two week gap. The thing is, there were no comments that were unanswered. Its just that there were no reviews at all. It got archived for that reason alone.   Perseus 71 talk 16:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Mathsci's topic ban actually passed

Hello, I just posted to the Arb Com noticeboard, but I wanted to make sure someone sees this, since the R & I arbitration proceedings are about to become closed. It seems there is a discrepancy between the vote tally for Mathsci's topic ban (number 6 under Remedies) and the finding that it passed. I think there are only 5 votes of support for this, out of the requisite 6, but it is listed as passing under the motion to close. It seems it should be listed under "failed remedies." Thank you, Lo, i am real 19:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date format of the US Military

You learn something new every day. Sorry, and thanks for the info!

Samuel Webster (talk) 01:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

I am brand new to Wiki and cannot figure out the correct way to contribute. I have tried to read many of the How To aids but it is like, to me, reading hieroglyphics!

I would like to propose a change to LINE 114 (below). The way it is now written makes it seem that Phillips snapped at Evans for no reason, when it is actually Evans who had acted inappropriately. By the additions as suggested below, a fuller account is offered:

On 12 April, the wireless equipment aboard Titanic had broken down and Jack Phillips, along with Second Wireless Operator Harold Bride, had spent the better part of the day trying to repair it. Late in the day, Phillips was busy working off a substantial backlog of personal messages with the wireless station at Cape Race, Newfoundland, 800 miles (1,300 km) away. While in the middle of receiving a message, Phillips was interrupted by the wireless operator from the Californian, Cyril Evans, who transmitted that they were stopped and surrounded by ice. Evans had broken wireless protocol by interrupting, and the close proximity of the Californian's signal was like a shout in Phillips' headphones (both radio operators were using spark gap wireless sets whose signals bled across the spectrum and were impossible to tune out). Phillips, unable to hear the Cape Race message, rebuked Evans with: "Shut up, Shut up, I’m working Cape Race." Evans listened for a little while longer, and at 23:30 he turned off the wireless and went to bed.

(Macross24 (talk) 15:34, 24 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]

SS Californian

I mistakenly did not add a Subject to my comments above. I repeat them here. Sorry!

Help!

I am brand new to Wiki and cannot figure out the correct way to contribute. I have tried to read many of the How To aids but it is like, to me, reading hieroglyphics!

I would like to propose a change to LINE 114 (below). The way it is now written makes it seem that Phillips snapped at Evans for no reason, when it is actually Evans who had acted inappropriately. By the additions as suggested below, a fuller account is offered:

On 12 April, the wireless equipment aboard Titanic had broken down and Jack Phillips, along with Second Wireless Operator Harold Bride, had spent the better part of the day trying to repair it. Late in the day, Phillips was busy working off a substantial backlog of personal messages with the wireless station at Cape Race, Newfoundland, 800 miles (1,300 km) away. While in the middle of receiving a message, Phillips was interrupted by the wireless operator from the Californian, Cyril Evans, who transmitted that they were stopped and surrounded by ice. Evans had broken wireless protocol by interrupting, and the close proximity of the Californian's signal was like a shout in Phillips' headphones (both radio operators were using spark gap wireless sets whose signals bled across the spectrum and were impossible to tune out). Phillips, unable to hear the Cape Race message, rebuked Evans with: "Shut up, Shut up, I’m working Cape Race." Evans listened for a little while longer, and at 23:30 he turned off the wireless and went to bed.

(Macross24 (talk) 15:38, 24 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Big favor

Hey. I was wondering if, sometime this week, you'd be able to promote a topic or two over at FTC. I believe the Hard Candy and Mesozoic animals have consensus. Mainly, I'm asking for this because I'd like to get you involved in that aspect in case I couldn't do it anymore due to time concerns; this way for now there's two people who can handle that. (It's pretty much foolproof, though if you're not positive on any steps you can check my edit history, as i just did an FT promotion). Meanwhile, I'm gonna try and figure out how to trigger the September 1 FTCmovement, I think it's through the template but I have no clue how I would do that. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I should have some free time available later (thursday/friday) when I can take care of them. -MBK004 03:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies on not finishing this. I had to take some time off rather abruptly due to some personal issues. -MBK004 02:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's alright, went and took care of them. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revenge/Royal Sovereign class battleships

Hello,
To let you know, I’ve left a comment, here, if you wish to reply. Xyl 54 (talk) 10:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battleships

Hi there; I have recently joined the project (long time in wikipedia) and have set myself the task of improving the stub-class articles. So far enhanced Collossus and Vanguard. I would appreciate a view as to whether these articles are now brought out of stub class, and if so, to where? --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 17:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Milhist A-class and Peer reviews Jan-Jun 2010

The WikiChevrons
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted contributions to the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews during the period January-June 2010, I am delighted to award you the WikiChevrons.  Roger Davies talk 10:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Help with ship images

Hello MBK, I want to upload some clipper ship images I've just digitized from a 1913 pamphlet. Last time I tried this, I got a bunch of messages that I hadn't specified the source properly. Could I ask you to look at a trial image when I upload it and confirm that I'm getting this right? Djembayz (talk) 23:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Milhist A-class and Peer Reviews Jul-Dec 2009

The Content Review Medal of Merit  
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your devoted work on the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews during the period July-December 2009, I am delighted to award you this Content Review Medal. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

USS MIDAS (ARB 5)

Sale to Columbia not consummated in 1980. Ship was sold to Levin Metals Corp., on 19 November 1980 on IFB PD-X-1034 for $ 452,000.00 part of a two ship deal Source: PMARS Form MA-20, Record of Ship Sales. MBK004: You cannot access this site, as it's restricted to government use only, by MARAD. You can try though. This is one of the sources I get my information from, and also from the Administrator, of the NVR and from the NHHC of which the Head of the DANFS project is my cousin. I am a Naval Historian currently attached to Navsource working on listings of CO's and correcting information as to the fates of USN ships only. I come highly recommended. We pick up where WIKI leaves off. I am not going to edit the Midas' listing you do that after you attempt to verify what & if my information is correct. The information I put on the Sphinx, Lake Champlain & Tarawa come from the same sources, and from former crewmembers of those ships, plus the accumulated knowledge of years of study of Naval History, bios of Commanding Officers, ships narrative histories, logbooks, cruise books, programs of commissioning, decommissioning, unpublished manuscripts of Order of Battle for WW II, and so on. Evidently your grasp of US Naval History is not too good, and for instance the rejection of you to list the CO's of the Enterprise, is tantamount to revisionalism. Navsource lists complete listings of CO's where known on every page, to preserve for posterity this history otherwise not known to the layman wanting info on his ship where he doesn't know where to access such information. Do you know that NHHC is also going to add these lists to the revised histories of ships should there come a time not in our lifetimes I'll grant when a new set of DANFS is published. I'm gratified that I will be a part of it as long as I can lift a finger. I would like to get in touch with you, and have left you my cell, and email so hopefully you will. Pnsy17shop (talk) 01:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something for you

The WikiProject Barnstar
For your extensive contributions to the Military history WikiProject, particularly your diligence in closing A-Class and Peer Reviews, I am delighted to present you with this WikiProject Barnstar -- Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clerking

Hello MBK004. I am interested in helping out as a clerk for the Arbitration Committee. You probably will say, "You have to little experience because you are new." I don't think that this is fair as I've read all of the policies and guidelines and like to help out. Also in the section about becoming a clerk at WP:AC/C it says nothing about needing to have a certain amount of time editing on the encyclopedia. Mr. R00t Talk 02:03, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

for this. I'll know for next time :) EyeSerenetalk 11:53, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LIV (August 2010)



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New user is trying to contact you

On your anon talk page (you may not have noticed). He asked me to ping you. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed, but the user is not a newbie as claimed. They are constantly trying to use sources which are either not considered reliable or those which are unavailable to people outside of the US Navy. They are apparently also editing Wikipedia for their work and do not care about our content policies ... their editing is so wikipedia articles look the way his boss wants them to look instead of following the MOS and proper referencing despite repeated warnings. I've not only left plenty of warnings across a variety of IP addresses as well as a few throw-away accounts but also some helpful advice from other users as well. They are also trying to ascertain my identity via telephone or email so he can report me for whatever reason. I do not see anything that would be good coming out of entering further discussion with this person until they stop IP hopping to avoid blocking for their repeated violations of our policies. -MBK004 07:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, MBK 004: You question to origin of my information in your reply of 8 September, and suggest that there is ulterior motives for me asking for you to call me or email me. What is so secret about you that you do not want to talk to people ??? I assure you, my information is accurate, and I am sorry, that you have no way of verifying it, so it leaves me no alternative to not edit anything anymore on WIKI, and leave you to do the work. You call youself a Historian, well, my friend you're not, nor will ever be one !!! It is sad that WIKI will never know the benefits of my long and eventful career documenting the US NAVY, and I leave you to stew in your own juices... Pnsy17shop (talk) 16:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did I miss anything in closing this? I don't think so, but a second check would be nice just to make sure. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two minor things, alphabetical order on the newsletter and updating the count in the showcase (both I have taken care of). -MBK004 04:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RMS Titanic

Hello! I noticed that you reverted my change to the hatnote. I was curious if that was intentional, or just a byproduct of the other cleanup you were doing. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 07:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a byproduct of the clean-up. It is unfortunate but a fact of life that sometimes good edits must be reverted as well on that article due to the volume of vandalism. -MBK004 08:35, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, no problem. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't changing something that folks didn't want changed. Thanks, 28bytes (talk) 08:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Courageous class GTC

Now that HMS Furious has been promoted, I'm ready to start the GTC for the class. One problem, however, is the lead article. There are really two, one each as battlecruisers and carriers. Is there anyway we can use both the BC and the CV articles as dual leads? If not, which would you recommend to be used? They were BCs first, but CVs for longer.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dual lead articles is a non-starter. As to the substance, WT:FTQ is that away... -MBK004 06:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

Replaced as requested. Was unaware of this box's existence Bwmoll3 (talk) 03:22, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thor missile updated as requested Bwmoll3 (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: US mitlitary dates

Thanks. I figured that there was a standard that people were following. I'm new to major ontributions in this area and really appreciate you taking the time to help me, as you have now on several occasions. Cheers! --Kevin Murray (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Just wanted to say thank you for the corrections you made on my most recent article. Tinss (talk) 18:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reusable Launch Vehicles

I will be happy to try to conform to Wikipedia policy, but the sections I edited in the article on Reusable Launch Systems were poorly written, incorrect, or not relevant to the stated topic. I started by asking on the talk page for the article if anyone else was interested in improving it and there was no reply for months, so I assumed no one was interested. The sections I have edited had no relevant references and despite the immediacy of the topic haven't been maintained or updated. You don't have to go far in the current article to find logical absurdities. The very first section says "There are two approaches to Single stage to orbit or SSTO." Then it only gives one approach!! Where is the second???? Why is the word "Single" capitalized? Or consider this: "Also, lightweight implies small vehicles, which in turn implies small payloads, increasing the cost per kilogram of the payload." The previous sentence referred to "lightweight" structures, i.e. those with a high strength-to-weight ratio. This is completely unrelated to the total mass of the vehicle. The cost referred to is the launch cost per kilogram of payload, not the cost per kilogram of payload. There is hardly a paragraph in this article that doesn't have serious errors. I am mystified by the statement that all information must come from external sources. This is seldom the case in Wikipedia and there are virtually no references in the article currently. Where are the references to sources that presumably should appear in every sentence of the article?

I have worked in the space program for almost thirty years and have five degrees including both mechanical and industrial engineering. I have over twenty peer-reviewed publications including a recent paper in Acta Astronautica. I frequently review papers for peer-reviewed journals. I presented at the very first Case For Mars conference. I have personally seen most of the major components in the Space Shuttle and most of the prelaunch processing environment and operations. I presented briefings to the crew of the first Space Shuttle mission prior to STS-1 in 1981 and was on a console in the LCC for the Ares 1-X launch in 2009. I have supported more than 100 shuttle launches and also worked on the Constellation program and supported the ULA expendable program as well. There are certainly people who know a great deal more than I do about RLVs but they are obviously not contributing to this article at the moment. Wikipedia is a fantastic information source and there are certainly many articles which meet the highest scholarly standards of reference, but this article does not come close at the present time. If someone else is prepared to work on it I would be the last to duplicate their efforts. But I am at least somewhat experienced in this field and there is limited literature on this topic which is accessible, current, and peer reviewed so it's hard to see how everything in the text could possibly be referred to an external source as you suggest. Moreover if you apply those standards you will have to remove most of the existing text. If you don't plan to apply this standard to the existing text I hope you will at least let me improve upon it. This is an important subject and it should be properly described. Best regards, Danwoodard (talk) 06:59, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

Coordinator of the Military history Project, September 2010-September 2011

Congrats on your election as Coordinator of the Military history Project! In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

The WikiProject Barnstar
In gratitude of your service as coordinator for the Military history Project from March 2010 to September 2010, I hereby award you this WikiProject Barnstar. —TomStar81 (Talk) 23:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Belated congrats (this is my first visit) on your becoming a sysop after 6 months!

To the point: I have a strange feeling that User:Shadow2700 and User:136.234.55.124 may be one of and the same, possibly to evade WP:3RR. Both have a history of drastic edits and arrogant, obnoxious edit summary comments. The case doesn't appear to qualify for a sockpuppet investigation. What to do? [email protected] (talk) 21:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I've been a sysop since January 2008...
As to your question, you are correct that there is not enough for an SPI. Just bide your time and acquire more evidence. -MBK004 05:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's what I thought re the question I had.

Belated congrats (this is my first visit) on your becoming a sysop after 6 months!
You wrote on your talk page that you "first started editing Wikipedia in July 2007, and became a sysop in January 2008", but your response ("Hmm, I've been a sysop since January 2008...") sounds like I got the math wrong, which I don't think I did. Sorry if I offended you in in some way. [email protected] (talk) 20:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Can you take a look at this please; an anonymous editor wants to introduce a highly POV statement about the US Govt's letter in the lede of this article. Any opinion? --John (talk) 13:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct in your assessment. I'd recommend bringing this to ANI if the behavior persists. -MBK004 21:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would you mind weighing in at article talk to that effect? I've been accused of WP:OWN. --John (talk) 05:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder using Twinkle

Hi MBK004. I noticed you use Twinkle for fighting vandalism. This is good, but please avoid using it simply because you disagree with other editors on some points. Further, try to respond to others users by responding to their arguments. -- 签名 sig at 18:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Respond to others... you have not questioned the edits until now (and I left a summary in the function provided with Twinkle instead of a pure vandalism revert, look at the history that is all that is required, would you have been as harsh with an undo or just a plain edit which wiped the section?), so why accuse me of any malfeasance? The issue of listing the commanding officers of naval vessels, was brought up at WT:SHIPS earlier this year as I mentioned in the edit summary (incidentally by me), and the discussion resulted in the following agreement: There is/appears to be consensus for the lists to be removed/depreciated. If commanding officers of warships are to be mentioned, they should be mentioned in the relevant article text. It definitely appears that your addition of the section (unreferenced to boot) to USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) is against agreed-upon consensus. If you disagree, I suggest you bring this back up at WT:SHIPS. -MBK004 05:08, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you read my edit summary and didn't use twinkle, you'd have noticed. Please try to separate regular editing from "twinkle" mode.
The discussion you are referring to didn't lead to the guidelines being amended as there was some disagreement about what you state as being consensus. The discussion seems to be about smaller ships anyways. Besides, if the lists is acceptable as a stand-alone list, there isn't really a reason why it couldn't be included in the article until it's longer. Unless you can provide other points to support your view, please refrain from removing things. If you think more references are needed, just add {{fact}} to the list entries you find problematic. -- 签名 sig at 02:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frustrations

I've noticed a couple of edit summaries on your part that seem to indicate frustration in regard to improper wikignoming, such as not sorting additions to the announcement template (example). May I suggest you invest in an editnotice? You have the mop and could throw up an {{Ombox}}, since the hidden text seems to be getting ignored. If not, at least a cold beer would keep your hair from going grey. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 15:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Baha, he's a college student. How dare you advocate for "a cold beer." You are a corrupter of otherwise fine and upstanding young American citizens. (obviously kidding -- MBK, an edit notice seems like a pretty good idea) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 16:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case, then relieve your stress with alternative exercises. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 20:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something for you

Military history reviewers' award
By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews for the period 1 April-30 September 2010, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award.  Roger Davies talk 08:19, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space

Your advice will be appreciated

Dear coordinator, my edits about military/intelligence history of WWII were targeted by one and same editor – which simply blanked [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] Well referenced texts and refuse to provide an explanation at talk pages. Can you advice a solution. Regards Jo0doe (talk) 12:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

USer Jo0doe habitually misrepresents sources to bring them in line with his POV. The respective discussion pages cover that thoroughly.--Galassi (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Jo0doe (talk), who had been blocked for a year (see here: [11] for block and comments) and then for 6 months from this wikipedia (check his block log) and who is permanently banned from Russian wiki (see here: [12]) for similar behavior has returned. Recent examples of misusing sources are here and [13]. Basically, his M.O. is to either push his POV by taking bits of info out of context or creatively misintepreting the content. He does this with foreign-language sources that are difficult to verify, although in the comments I quoted from those sources at length and provided google=translate versions for verification, so that Jo0doe (talk)'s falsification is obvious. I don't have time to go to A.E., the admin who originally blocked him for a year (user:Moreschi) seems to have retired, and other admins don't have the time to dig into this either. So it's up to other editors to clean up the messes he makes. He is complaining that people are cleaning up his messes.
Now, expect Jo0doe (talk) to flood this section of your talk page with complex and/or difficult to understand changes of subject.Faustian (talk) 13:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GTC

Thanks for going after me cleaning up my GTC closes. Ucucha 12:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prunariu

Dear MBK004,

I made an update at the biography of cosmonaut Dumitru-Dorin Prunariu who is ME. You deleted this update. Better then me nobody knows what I do and what new positions I have. So, please live that update in the text of my biography.

Dumitru-Dorin Prunariu Dorin52 (talk) 20:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC) dorin52[reply]

Undoing of my moves of Mitscher and McCain pages

MBK004,

I seem to have caused you a lot of work yesterday. Please direct me to the guidelines I violated so I can understand thsi and not mess up again. Thanks.Busaccsb (talk) 18:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More on this

Upon reflection, seems like a presumptuous idea to move a page without consulting, I do some fish stuff where I have moved pages, but they were pages I made in the first place. You guys who are at this all the time have all this ship stuff organized the way you want it, and I just dabble. I'll stick to what I am good at, which is introductory paragraph development. Sorry. 18:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

"Lead too short" tags

MBK004, I need some guidance. I often find articles with "lead too short" tags. Just now, for example, on the USS Shaw (DD-373) page. I expanded the intro to correct the problem, and removed the tag. The question is, should I have removed the tag, or is that something you guys with higher powers do? Similarly, if I see an artilce with an inadequate lead, can I tag it? Busaccsb (talk) 16:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely, if you have corrected the problem which was why the tag was placed there then by all means remove it! As to tagging yourself, please do. I make use of WP:FRIENDLY for that (it is easy to use). -MBK004 04:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation vs. set index article

Your comments would be appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#Proposed change. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LV (September 2010)



The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue LV (September 2010)
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The results of September's coordinator elections, plus ongoing project discussions and proposals

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A recap of the month's new Featured and A-Class articles

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Our newest A-class medal recipients, this September's top contestants, plus the reviewers' Roll of Honour (Apr-Sep 2010)

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Deprecated Parameters

MBK004, was looking at the project page's suggested list of things to work on and I kept stumbling upon references to "deprecated parameters". I can't find a decent explanation of what they are and what do do about them. Can you point me to something that would help me? ThanksBusaccsb (talk) 20:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind leaving a link here to which page? -MBK004 10:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, that was inconsiderate of me. The link is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ships/Cleanup_listing#Pages_containing_cite_templates_with_deprecated_parameters

Also, I know you are busy, so hate to keep asking you questions. Can you refer me to a general place I can ask these questions within Wikiproject Ships, or to other specific authorities like yourself (e.g. TomStar81)? Thanks Busaccsb (talk) 17:56, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The instance that you are referring to is when a certain template is used in an article. Over time the template may change in what the parameters within the template will support. These uses still have older versions of parameters. It is best to leave this to those users who know what they are doing with absolute certainty. Also, many bots are working on this exact replacement task. As to asking questions, there is no need to stop asking me or other prominent ship editors, or at WT:SHIPS. We are all willing to help. -MBK004 05:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How can I help? It looks like some editors are already involved, but if you need more help, please let me know. --Kevin Murray (talk) 21:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philmont Training Center

I am the one that edited the Philmont Training Center page on 10/25.

I was the director of PTC from 1995-2000 and wrote the book "The Other Side of the Road" which is the history of PTC. What I wrote is from my research and experience, not from copywrited material.

Pemsit (talk) 21:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I give up. I have restored the page to where it was when I started to update it.Pemsit (talk) 21:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AR2-3: Work with me on this one -- Magneticlifeform

I have been trying to solve the puzzle of what is going on with the X-37B orbital maneuvering system for about a year. I am retired from Rocketdyne and still have contacts there. I have been able to find out that it was intended from the beginning that the unmanned space plane not be powered by toxic NTO or hydrazine-based fuels due to ground hazards associated with the return to earth. A hydrogen peroxide based system using an already-man-rated AR2-3 was originally selected to be used on the first OTV. Inconsistant support for the program resulted in delays that made an alternate propulsion system necessary for the first orbital flight. Rocketdyne did not supply that alternate engine but has continued to work on the H2O2/JP-8 system. That is about all I know for certain. Please see the attached NASA/United Launch Alliance briefing chart which was presented in a closed military briefing in London just weeks before the X-37B launch. The chart adds to the confusion but seems to indicate the original plan for the operational maneuvering system still stands.

Apparently I cannot (or do not know how to) insert the briefing chart. If you would care to see it please notify me of an e-mail address where I may send it. My own e-mail address is [email protected]. I doubt (?) the ancient AR2-3 would be the engine of choice for an operational space plane. Rocketdyne has designed the RS-82 with much better performance but about the same thrust. Rocketdyne posts no data on RS-82 but there are two mentions, with an illustration, on www.astronautix.com/RS-82 and /H2O2/Kerosene. Between us hopefully we can break out some more definitive information.Magneticlifeform (talk) 07:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube not being a reliable source??

I don't get how thats not reliable? That was the CEO Of P&O Cruises Australia, how can that not be reliable but if so then I'll find another source.--Yankeesman312 (talk) 21:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iowa class battleship

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Spaceflight notability

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Goodbye

Due to the current situation at WT:HSF, I am retiring from editing on a matter of principle. Please can you finish TLS, and if you get a chance please have a look at some of the unfinished articles in my userspace. If you need anything you can find me at NSF. Thanks for everything and good luck. --GW 23:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with the fallout

Hey MBK; well, I've got to be honest I wasn't expecting the events of last night - personally I thought the discussion was going reasonably well (not fabulously, but we were getting somewhere) and, whilst I agree that Mlm's actions weren't exactly advised, I must admit it does seem to be a relatively minor thing to retire over - was there something else going on here that made it the straw that broke his back? Anyhow, I agree with you that he'll be greatly missed - I sent him a message on NSF but I doubt if I'll get any reply - what are your thoughts on the matter? Colds7ream (talk) 08:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spaceflight portals

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Paolo Nespoli

I followed your advice and I placed a proposal on the talk page of the article. I hope you can have a look and let me know your comments to go ahead. It's just adding more information about his imminent mission. Thanks. Superpi.nl (talk) 14:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello there! There is an article called "Argentina-Brazil War", it's about an international conflict that occurred between 1825 and 1828 between the Empire of Brazil and the United Provinces of South America over the possession of the Brazilian province of Cisplatina (which had a mixed Portuguese and Spanish population). The problem is that is was never called "Argentina-Brazil War". An editor probably created this name for it.

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Move for Little Rock Page

I'm trying to improve the material on Cleveland class cruisers, and noticed in working with the ones that had been converted to missile ships that several page names used CL-xx and others used CLG-xx or CG-xx. My understanding of the convention is that the initial designation of the ship is the one used in the title, so have fixed all except USS Little Rock. The current page is USS Little Rock (CG-4) and I want to move that to USS Little Rock (CL-92). That move is disallowed I think because the CL-92 page already exists and CG-4 was a move from it. Can you help?Busaccsb (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fargo class cruiser page

There's some weird spacing going on in the text too the left of the infobox. I can't figure out what is causing it,and have been unable to come up with a work around. Could you take a look?Busaccsb (talk) 04:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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National Maritime Museum Collaboration

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Mapping the Russian Fleet

Hello

I apologise from the outset if i'm using the wrong message board or place to communicate my message which is just a very broad enquiry. I am not an experienced Wikipedia editor having just made this account for the purpose of making this enquiry. I am really just someone was has benefitted greatly in the past as a wikipedia user when doing researches and wondered if I might contribute in future ?

About 6 months ago, when I discoverd that the current resolution of the Keyhole Satellite photo-imagery used by Google Earth mapping, was now really good enough to locate and accurately identify individual vessels (or at least vessel types) [I have had past professional experience in this area] at all the principal Russian Naval ports, I thought that it'd be an interesting exercise to create a keyhole data file ('.kmz') identifying all the warships in the modern fleet which could be so identified - so that if reading up about either a particular vessel or at least squadron, or vessel class etc. I could then locate its latest clear image on GE, or in reverse could discover information about the particular vessel I was looking at in the GE image.

Several friends, with whom I've shared the file, equally also interested in the topic of fleet deployments as a purely innocent exercise in naval interests & mapping have suggested that it would be very useful if this locational detail could be added as either just earth co-ordinates at least or a 'clikable data source file' - to the respective current Wikipaedia articles dealing with the corresponding vessels/squadron/units etc.

Could this be done ? If so would it be helpful ? I realise of course that this is much more of interest to researches into in current naval deployment matters, rather than military history as such. So if this is not your area of interest, could you ask the right person for me, or point me in their direction ? Thank you.

PS sorry for rambling ...?

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International Space Station

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WP:Military History and WP:Espionage Merge?

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WikiProject Good articles (Participant Clean-Up)

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If you are still interested in being a participant for this WikiProject, please sign your user name here and please help review some articles so we can reduce the size of the backlog. If you are no longer interested, you do not need to sign your name anywhere and your name will be removed from the participants list after the deadline. Remember that even if you are not interested at this time, you can always re-add your name to the list whenever you want. The deadline to sign your name on the page above will be November 1, 2012. Thank-you. 13:29, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Update for: WikiProject Good articles (Participant Clean-Up)

Sorry for having to send out a second message but a user has brought to my attention that a point mentioned in the first message should be clarified. If user's don't sign on this page, they will be moved to an "Inactive Participants" list rather then be being removed from the entire WikiProject. Sorry for any confusion.--Dom497 (talk)15:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - October 2012

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WikiProject Good Articles - Participant Clean-up (Second Call)

You are reciving this message because you have not added your name to the list of active WikiProject Good Articles participants. Though you may have recived the first message sent out in September, some users may have had that message archived before coming online to read it and therefore never saw it. If you are deeming yourself inactive with the WikiProject please disregard this message as your name will be moved to an "inactive participant" list at the end of the clean-up. If you are still active with the WikiProject, please be sure to include your name on this list. The current deadline to add your name to the list (if you are still active) is November 1, 2012. A third and final message will be sent out during the last week of the clean-up before the deadline. Thank-you.--EdwardsBot

WikiProject Good Articles - Participant Clean-up (Final Call)

You are receiving this message because you have not added your name to the list of active WikiProject Good Articles participants. Though you may have recived the past two messages sent out in September and October, some users may have had that message archived before coming online to read it and therefore never saw it. If you are deeming yourself inactive with the WikiProject please disregard this message as your name will be moved to an "inactive participant" list at the end of the clean-up. If you are still active with the WikiProject, please be sure to include your name on this list. The deadline to add your name to the list (if you are still active) is November 1, 2012. This will be the last message sent out before the deadline which is in 2 days. Thank-you.--EdwardsBot

The GAN Newsletter (November 2012)

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Notice of change

Hello. You are receiving this message because of a recent change to the administrator policy that alters what you were told at the time of your desysopping. The effect of the change is that if you are inactive for a continuous three year period, you will be unable to request return of the administrative user right. This includes inactive time prior to your desysopping if you were desysopped for inactivity and inactive time prior to the change in policy. Inactivity is defined as the absence of edits or logged actions. Until such time as you have been inactive for three years, you may request return of the tools at the bureaucrats' noticeboard. After you have been inactive for three years, you may seek return of the tools only through WP:RFA. Thank you. MBisanz talk 00:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiProject: Good Articles Newsletter (December 2012)

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The WikiProject: Good Articles Newsletter (January 2013)

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WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter - February 2013

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Good Article Nominations Request For Comment

A 'Request For Comment' for Good Article Nominations is currently being held. We are asking that you please take five to ten minutes to review all seven proposals that will affect Good Article Nominations if approved. Full details of each proposal can be found here. Please comment on each proposal (or as many as you can) here.

At this time, Proposal 1, 3, and 5 have received full (or close to) support.

If you have questions of anything general (not related to one specif proposal), please leave a message under the General discussion thread.

Please note that Proposal 2 has been withdrawn and no further comments are needed. Also, please disregard Proposal 9 as it was never an actual proposal.

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre

Hello! Now, some of you might be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:
  • Recruiters: The main task of a recruiter is to teach users that have never reviewed a Good article nomination how to review one. To become a recruiter, all you have to do is meet this criteria. If we don't get at least 5-10 recruiters to start off with, the Recruitment Centre will not open. If interested, make sure you meet the criteria, read the process and add your name to the list of recruiters. (One of the great things about being a recruiter is that there is no set requirement of what must be taught and when. Instead, all the content found in the process section is a guideline of the main points that should be addressed during a recruitment session...you can also take an entire different approach if you wish!) If you think you will not have the time to recruit any users at this time but are still interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still add your name to the list of recruiters but just fill in the "Status" parameter with "Not Available".
  • Co-Director: The current Director for the centre is me (Dom497). Another user that would be willing to help with some of the tasks would be helpful. Tasks include making sure recruiters are doing what they should be (teaching!), making sure all recruitments are archived correctly, updating pages as needed, answering any questions, and distributing the feedback form. If interested, please contact me (Dom497).
  • Nominators, please read this: If you are not interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still help. In some cases a nominator may have an issue with an "inexperienced" editor (the recruitee) reviewing one of their nominations. To minimize the chances of this happening, if you are fine with a recruitee reviewing one of your nominations under the supervision of the recruiter, please add your name to the list at the bottom of this page. By adding your name to this list, chances are that your nomination will be reviewed more quickly as the recruitee will be asked to choose a nomination from the list of nominators that are OK with them reviewing the article.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. I look forward to seeing this program bring new reviewers to the Good article community and all the positive things it will bring along.

A message will be sent out to all recruiters regarding the date when the Recruitment Centre will open when it is determined. The message will also contain some further details to clarify things that may be a bit confusing.--Dom497 (talk)

This message was sent out by --EdwardsBot (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK RfC

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Kirill [talk] 16:26, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Titan's Cross nomination

As you are listed as a member of Operation Majestic Titan, you are receiving this message to notify you that a new Titan's Cross nomination has been opened. You are therefore cordially invited to iVote or offer your opinion on the nomination. Sincerely, TomStar81 (Talk) 05:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive

Hello! A GAN Backlog Drive will begin in less than 4 days!

In past Backlog Drives, the goal was to reduce the backlog of Good article nominations. In the upcoming drive, another goal will be added - raising as much money as we can for the Wikimedia Foundation. How will this work? Well, its pretty simple. Any user interested in donating can submit a pledge at the Backlog Drive page (linked above). The pledge should mention the amount of money the user is willing to donate per review. For example, if a user pledges 5 cents per review and 100 nominations are reviewed, the total donation amount is $5.00.

At the time this message was sent out, two users have submitted pledges for a total of 8 cents per review. All pledges, no matter how much money, are greatly appreciated. Also, in no way is this saying you must make a pledge.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or leave a message on the Backlog Drive talk page. And remember, there are less than 4 days before the drive starts!--EdwardsBot (talk) 03:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GAN December 2013 Backlog Drive

Hello! Just a friendly reminder that the GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on December 31, 2013!

If you know anyone outside of the WikiProject that may be interested, feel free to invite them to the drive!

If you have any questions or want to comment about something regarding the drive, post them here--EdwardsBot (talk) 00:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive

It's that time again! Starting on March 1, there will be another GAN Backlog Drive! There will be several changes compared to previous drives:

  • This drive will introduce a new component to it; a point system. In a nutshell, older nominations are worth more points than newer nominations. The top 3 participants who have the points will be awarded the Golden, Silver, or Bronze Wikipedia Puzzle Piece Trophy, respectively.
  • Unlike the December 2013 Backlog Drive, earning an additional barnstar if you reached your goal has been removed.
  • The allowance to have insufficient reviews has been lowered to 2 before being disqualified.
  • An exception to the rule that all reviews must be completed before the deadline has been created.

Also, something that I thought I would share with all of you is that we raised $20.88 (USD) for the WMF in the December 2013 drive. It may not sound like a lot but considering that that was raised just because we reviewed articles, I would say that's pretty good! With that success, pledges can be made for the upcoming drive if you wish.

More info regarding the drive and full descriptions regarding the changes to this drive can be found on the the drive page. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a message on the drive talk page.

I look forward to your participation and hope that because of it, some day the backlog will be gone!

--Dom497

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:58, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GAN March 2014 Backlog Drive

The March 2014 GAN Backlog Drive has begun and will end on April 1, 2014! Sent by Dom497 on behalf of MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Loves Pride: Houston

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to improve coverage of LGBT-related content on Wikipedia throughout the month of June. On June 21, there will be a multi-national edit-a-thon, if you wish to participate. Here is the project page for Houston: Wikipedia:Meetup/Houston/Wiki Loves Pride 2014. Ways to help? Create or improve LGBT-related articles, host an edit-a-thon at a local coffeeshop, library or other location, or photograph LGBT culture and history in the Houston area. Visit the project page for more information, and if you are interested in contributing, just add your name to the list of supporters or add the results of your work. Thanks for your consideration! --Another Believer (Talk) 20:42, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of the citations needed tag from the Soyuz 7K-L1 article

If anyone managing or "stalking" this talk page for MBK004 is around would they like to checkout the Soyuz_7K-L1 page and see if there are enough changes and references now for the 'citations needed' tag to be removed ? ☭Soviet☭ 12:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Иронгрон (talkcontribs)

I've had a look and the current level of citation in the article does support a decision to remove the tag, which I have done. Any additional reference material can be flagged using the "cn" tag from here on. TomStar81 (Talk) 16:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive

Hello everyone! Hope you've all been having a great summer!

TheQ Editor recently proposed the idea of having another Backlog Drive in either September/October or November/December of this year. For those of you who have participated in the past two drives you know I was the one who organized them, however, come September, this will be my most important year in school so I will not be able to coordinate this drive (if it happens). TheQ Editor has volunteered to be a coordinator for the drive. If any of you would like to co-coordinator, please notify TheQ Editor on his talk page.

If you would be interested in participating in a Backlog Drive sometime before the end of this year, please notify TheQ Editor. Also, make sure to specify what month(s) work best for you.

At the time this message was sent out, the backlog was at 520 nominations. Since May, the backlog has been steadily increasing and we are currently near an all time high. Even though the backlog will not disappear over one drive, this drive can lead to several others which will (hopefully) lead to the day where there is no longer a backlog.

As always, the more participants, the better, and everyone is encouraged to participate!

Sent by Dom497--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Cup

Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

For all of you that do not know what the WikiCup is, it is an annual competition between several editors to see who can get the most Good Articles, Featured Article's, Did You Know's, etc. Based of this, we propose to you the GA Cup. This competition will only focus on reviewing Good articles.

For more info on the proposal, click here. As a FYI, the proposal page is not what the final product will look like (if you do go ahead with this idea). It will look very similar to WikiCup's page(s).

The discussion for the proposal will take place here. Please let us know if you are interested, have any concerns, things to consider, etc.

--Dom497, Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:29, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Good Articles - GA Cup


WikiProject Good articles is holding a new competition, the GA Cup, from October 1, 2014 - March 28, 2015. The Cup will be based on reviewing Good article nominations; for each review, points will be awarded with bonuses for older nominations, longer articles and comprehensive reviews. All participants will start off in one group and the highest scoring participants will go through to the second round. At the moment six rounds are planned, but this may change based on participant numbers.

Some of you may ask: what is the purpose for a competition of this type? Currently, there is a backlog of about 500 unreviewed Good article nominations, almost an all time high. It is our hope that we can decrease the backlog in a fun way, through friendly competition.

Everyone is welcome to join; new and old editors! Sign-ups will be open until October 15, 2014 so sign-up now!

If you have any questions, take a look at the FAQ page and/or contact one of the four judges.

Cheers from NickGibson3900, Dom497, TheQ Editor and Figureskatingfan.

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!

The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Voting for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year now open!

Nominations for the military historian of the year and military newcomer of the year have now closed, and voting for the candidates has officially opened. All project members are invited to cast there votes for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year candidates before the elections close at 23:59 December 21st. For the coordinators, TomStar81

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:35, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for the Military history WikiProject historian and newcomer of the year awards now open!

On behalf of the Military history WikiProject's Coordinators, we would like to extend an invitation to nominate deserving editors for the 2015 Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards. The nomination period will run from 7 December to 23:59 13 December, with the election phase running from 14 December to 23:59 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Military history WikiProject coordinator election

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, since you participated in the review of the article Joachim Helbig, I'm letting you know about the community reassessment that I initiated.

The discussion is at GAR:Joachim Helbig, with the goal to reach a consensus whether the article satisfies the good article criteria. Any input would be welcome. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:53, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Voting for the Military history WikiProject Historian and Newcomer of the Year is ending soon!

 

Time is running out to voting for the Military Historian and Newcomer of the year! If you have not yet cast a vote, please consider doing so soon. The voting will end on 31 December at 23:59 UTC, with the presentation of the awards to the winners and runners up to occur on 1 January 2017. For the Military history WikiProject Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This message was sent as a courtesy reminder to all active members of the Military History WikiProject.

March Madness 2017

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Military history WikiProject Coordinator election

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway. As a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 29 September. Thank you for your time. For the current tranche of Coordinators, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting

As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User group for Military Historians

Greetings,

"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~ summary template ~

Hi! MBKoo4, I found this template ~ {User:MBK004/Pet peeve|STS-122|-} ~ (I suppose you created it) on a talk page and have put it in my sandbox. I was wondering if you mind that I also use it for applicable reasons? By the way nice to meet you and your stalkers. ~mitch~ (talk) 12:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive#Participants and create a worklist at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting discussion for Clitoris

An article that you have edited or that may interest you, (Clitoris), has content that I have proposed to be removed and moved to another article, (Human clitoris). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 05:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for USS Texas (BB-35)

USS Texas (BB-35) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]